Proposal: Disable "normal users" from being able to lock Scam Accusations

[nubbins]

FWIW, your first example would be rendered moot if people used PGP.

[Quickseller]

FWIW, your first example would be rendered moot if people used PGP.

it would not resolve the issue. Someone could provide the PGP signed message in lieu of chat log screenshots. When someone gives a PGP signed message asking to change the payment address the first one would still not have a tx showing payment.

You would have the same issue of having a locked thread without the ability to give a rebuttal.

[nubbins]

FWIW, your first example would be rendered moot if people used PGP.

it would not resolve the issue. Someone could provide the PGP signed message in lieu of chat log screenshots. When someone gives a PGP signed message asking to change the payment address the first one would still not have a tx showing payment.

You would have the same issue of having a locked thread without the ability to give a rebuttal.

Maybe you should write out your example in full, because you just lost me. If I have two pgp-signed messages from a seller saying "send money here" and "send money there", what's the problem? Send the money to the newest address they gave you. Create a scam thread with the PGP messages if they scam you.

[Quickseller]

FWIW, your first example would be rendered moot if people used PGP.

it would not resolve the issue. Someone could provide the PGP signed message in lieu of chat log screenshots. When someone gives a PGP signed message asking to change the payment address the first one would still not have a tx showing payment.

You would have the same issue of having a locked thread without the ability to give a rebuttal.

Maybe you should write out your example in full, because you just lost me. If I have two pgp-signed messages from a seller saying "send money here" and "send money there", what's the problem? Send the money to the newest address they gave you. Create a scam thread with the PGP messages if they scam you.

1- buyer and seller agree to a trade
2- sends a widget to the seller
3- seller gives PGP signed message saying to send funds to address (a)
4- buyer receives widget
5- seller gives a 2nd PGP signed message saying to send funds to address (b)
6- buyer sends funds to address (b)
7- seller opens scam accusacation saying they were never paid
8- seller provides the PGP message for address (a) as well as screen shots showing he gave that address to buyer
9- seller locks thread before buyer can respond

[nubbins]

10- Buyer creates a scam thread, and provides second PGP signed address from seller, indicating address b.
11- Seller is labelled scammer due to conclusive evidence, negative trust is left.

[Quickseller]

10- Buyer creates a scam thread, and provides second PGP signed address from seller, indicating address b.
11- Seller is labelled scammer due to conclusive evidence, negative trust is left.

true however just because someone is a scammer does not make their word useless. If later a potential trading partner searches for the buyers username in scam accusacations there will be a thread without a rebuttal

[nubbins]

just because someone is a scammer does not make their word useless

I disagree, without offering proof to the contrary.

If later a potential trading partner searches for the buyers username in scam accusacations there will be a thread without a rebuttal

A locked scam accusation thread with no replies is not really anything we should be changing site policy over.

[Quickseller]

just because someone is a scammer does not make their word useless

I disagree, without offering proof to the contrary.

If later a potential trading partner searches for the buyers username in scam accusacations there will be a thread without a rebuttal

A locked scam accusation thread with no replies is not really anything we should be changing site policy over.

most scam accusation threads with some level of proof get replies fairly quickly. If the person getting accused doesn't have access to evidence to backup their case right away they may not be able to prove their side immidiatly. He may not be on the forum for a day or two so he wouldn't even know about it until it would get locked.