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January 27, 2015, 11:17:00 PM
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The three key components of McCain’s approach are these:

Expand the U.S. force in Iraq from the current 2,300 troops to 10,000 to assist Iraqis troops. Rather than keeping U.S. service members confined to bases and headquarters, many of them would be dispatched to the front lines to direct or call in air strikes and take other steps to assist the Iraqis.

Establish safe zones or no-fly zones in neighboring Syria. McCain initially was reacting to news reports last year that ISIS was attempting to assemble a modest air force with pilots trained by Iraqi military defectors. While that threat has yet to materialize, McCain and administration officials have considered establishing a Syrian no-fly zone to protect civilians from airstrikes by the Syrian government.

Expand aid and military assistance to moderate Syrian rebels to help them fight back against ISIS and Syrian president Bashar al-Assad. As The Washington Post noted, Assad appears to be buoyed by months of U.S. and allied air strikes against ISIS that have taken enormous pressure off of him while he continues to destroy rebel forces seeking to topple him.

McCain said it’s an outrage that the Obama administration has pulled back and is no longer insisting that Assad step aside, although his regime is responsible for the deaths of over 200,000 Syrian civilians.

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January 27, 2015, 11:19:59 PM
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McCain needs to retire soon, he has been leading the charge to war for way too long.

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January 28, 2015, 01:58:19 AM
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McCain needs to retire soon, he has been leading the charge to war for way too long.



A senator is leading the troop for war? Not him?








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January 28, 2015, 02:17:15 AM
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Listen to this war monger. He drools over going to war. Oh, he isn't going our sons and daughters would be going.
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January 28, 2015, 03:09:05 AM
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Listen to this war monger. He drools over going to war. Oh, he isn't going our sons and daughters would be going.

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War is sweet to those who have never experienced it - Pintar

It's always fucking old people that are happy to go to war, they're the ones who profit since they don't have to do any of the fighting and they gain the resources. They're not only content with sending us all off to die ( Especially those ones who object to this kind of bullshit ) they want to piss away our own future on these wars while profiting themselves.

So even if we end up winning this finally, we're going to be the ones who have to pay for it in the end, with McCain and his supporters reaping all the benefits. I also noted that he made no mention of the Kurds which shows which side he's on, I suspect that the U.S will support the kurds as long as they keep fighting ISIS but when they start demanding their rights they'll turn on them in favour of propping up their more easy to control dictators and corrupt government officials.
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January 28, 2015, 04:06:45 AM
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McCain needs to retire soon, he has been leading the charge to war for way too long.



A senator is leading the troop for war? Not him?





McCain has been cheer-leading for the war machine for too long...

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January 28, 2015, 04:22:54 AM
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Just arm the Kurdish Peshmerga properly. They are much more efficient than the US or the Iraqi army. Also, they are less corrupt and more used to the terrain.
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January 28, 2015, 04:33:37 AM
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Just arm the Kurdish Peshmerga properly. They are much more efficient than the US or the Iraqi army. Also, they are less corrupt and more used to the terrain.
I think I saw something on Fox News earlier or yesterday about these Kurds having some sort of victory in this fight against ISIS (or as the insiders mention: ISIL) so that was fresh air to me. It's likely that we fund them to some extent but I know Rand has been saying that it's up to the moderate side of the Sunnis to handle the business on their end of extremism - hence ISIS. Also note, Rand's newest comment about the Saudis about them not funding the extremism for whatever their reasonings. I won't speculate but this needs to stop.
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January 28, 2015, 04:37:50 AM
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The Kurds have been taking ground from ISIS ever since the U.S gave them air support and ammunition, they were the ones responsible for the pushback in Kobane at the Turkish border. The problem for the US is, the peshmerga and their allies the PKK ( Who follow an odd brand of Libertarian Socialism or Marxism, they seem to be moderating their politics to fit in now ) have close ties and they fight for a truly independent Kurdistan so that means the US wouldn't be able to control them as they do Assad and the Iraq government.

I doubt purely because of political reasons the Kurds will ever get any real support from the US which is a joke because they are one of the most tolerant and even minded people in that region and the tribes respect them for it which is why they have so little war in their regions.

It should also be noted, in the south, the Kurds have control of the oil fields.
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January 28, 2015, 03:33:16 PM
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and with that american sniper movie out they wont have any trouble recruiting
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January 28, 2015, 04:09:10 PM
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i doubt there will be arming of the peshmerga with modern weapons.
turkey would go crazy apeshit when this happens - which was also the reason why even providing defense material to them from the eu was such a muppet show and took forever to happen.

but damn it, this time the US has to correct the shit with ground troops. i dont really see how isis will just say: ok we stop.


isis has money, isis has the troops, isis has the weapons.
it is not just a terrorist organisation anymore, if nothing happens we gonna see a second north korea in the middle east

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January 28, 2015, 05:50:15 PM
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McCain needs to retire soon, he has been leading the charge to war for way too long.



A senator is leading the troop for war? Not him?





McCain has been cheer-leading for the war machine for too long...

0bama is scot-free then. OK. Got it.





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