Bill Gates Calls for ‘Global Government’

[Tusk]

Adolf Hitler had a similar vision

[grendel25]

Global government has been going on and developing for thousands of years.  As long as there has been an alliance there has been a sense of global government where heads of state collaborate in the best interest of their realm.  It's like saying evolution has been occurring.  We know that already.

[bmarch]

I've never understood the opposition to a global government. It always seems to come from conspiracy theorists that lack critical thinking skills. What are we suppose to do? Never become united? Remain separate entities constantly vying and warring for territory and power? Does that really sound like the intelligent thing to do?

Well the idea is that since it's the 21st century and with improved transportation and communications, we no longer really need nation states that are more or less concepts out of the late middle-ages when people were less intelligent, much more religious, etc. The original American state was intended to be more of a service provider and record-keeper instead of a deity like the British crown and its empire. It gets into the question of what do you really need from a service provider today compared to pre-internet, pre-industrialization, etc.

So part of the problem is that most of the world is not as culturally developed as other parts of the world. It's really difficult for people to think beyond the idea of nation states at this point. Nation states are permitted to collect taxes with the threat of violence, and this is very much an old-world concept, for example. And with that you get greedy people stealing money, squandering funds, and so on. If you can get people to view the state as just a service provider and not a false god to worship then this would be progress.

Radical leftists groups, and other groups like the Club of Rome have tried to discuss efforts to set up global management structures. And some already exist. There's a global currency which exists called SDRs (Special Drawing Rights), but it hasn't yet been implemented. The fact is, like Bill Gates barely being able to keep Windows from being bug-free on release, is that a national or international economy is impossible to manage since it is so complex. The prospect usually attracts some pretty dumb-headed people who can't recognize this fact or think that someone could pull it off. But it can't - every socialist state has failed in the past and all you have today are Cuba and North Korea which speak for themselves. The Bretton Woods system, which was a currency value-pegging scheme set up after WWII to manage European debt with the USD, is also now not really being recognized by Russia, Brazil, and China. So all of these efforts to "share and manage" wealth and debt aren't really working now since the world is getting so damn more complex. But the flipside of it is that nobody really wants to start a war for real anymore now. The US still has the largest military in the world be a huge margin, so you can't deny that. But the EU is BARELY working as we can see with its debt problems. In my opinion even if an Anglo-American alliance, or an American-EU alliance were to be set up it would be a resource draining nightmare and the world is just better off with a coherent and stable payments system that is neutral to any single nation state for those who want to participate in civil society. Cooperation and markets will form at a more micro level and things will still get done - but more slowly. For the rest like ISIS who simply don't want to participate, leave the door open if they ever decide they want to behave again, but otherwise just abandon any efforts to appease them or even interact with them. I see no reason why they still get internet service at this point.

ISIS, North Korea, bits of trouble in Europe, Israel/Palestine, there's not much else to worry over. Africa is developing and so is South America. You can probably have missles pointed at these hotspots should anything flare up, but I think civil society will be able to manage otherwise.

[Ghostface]

I've never understood the opposition to a global government. It always seems to come from conspiracy theorists that lack critical thinking skills. What are we suppose to do? Never become united? Remain separate entities constantly vying and warring for territory and power? Does that really sound like the intelligent thing to do?

I agree in some respects but conspiracy theorists will just find a conspiracy or reason to moan in anything.

Adolf Hitler had a similar vision

But Hitler was a tyrant. I can't see what would be wrong if the world was governed by a decent philanthropist human being but there's just too many problems and differing people and nations with differing ideologies that cannot be fixed in such a way.

[Snail2]

One world government is fine as long as its a good one permanently right, 1 error somewhere in the future and we could wipe out billions.

How we can make elections? All officials will be chinese and indian ? If you really OK with a one world govt, then just take a look at EU. A bunch of elected but powerless parasites and a few unelected leaders to represent those whom appointed them. We can call this system by many names but this surely not a democracy. Actually pretty similar to the soviet political system. Do you really want this?

[jaysabi]

I've never understood the opposition to a global government. It always seems to come from conspiracy theorists that lack critical thinking skills. What are we suppose to do? Never become united? Remain separate entities constantly vying and warring for territory and power? Does that really sound like the intelligent thing to do?

It's not about intelligence, it's a lack of an ability to root out qualities that are innate to human beings. Europe can't even unite itself for economic gain. They tried, and there are still all the individuals countries bickering over which group of deadbeats is sinking the Euro. Tribalism is inherent to humanity, and people you don't identify with will always be outsiders and a threat to your "tribe." You will never defeat this, and therefore will never unify under one government, because it would require people to sacrifice their tribal/national identities to some sense of a greater cause, and people are reluctant to do this on a small scale. Forget the global scale.

[rosh]

Hopefully, the global currency of this global government (IF at all it happens) will be Bitcoin.

[Tusk]

I've never understood the opposition to a global government. It always seems to come from conspiracy theorists that lack critical thinking skills. What are we suppose to do? Never become united? Remain separate entities constantly vying and warring for territory and power? Does that really sound like the intelligent thing to do?

I agree in some respects but conspiracy theorists will just find a conspiracy or reason to moan in anything.

Adolf Hitler had a similar vision

But Hitler was a tyrant. I can't see what would be wrong if the world was governed by a decent philanthropist human being but there's just too many problems and differing people and nations with differing ideologies that cannot be fixed in such a way.

A global government would become tyrannical too, power corrupts and total power corrupts totally, In nature all ecosystems are dynamic and decentralised it is the most effective way of maintaining balance. Localised responsibility and initiative is the most effective way of addressing problems. the challenges facing people in various parts of the world are different and require local solutions and localised participation. To think that some global bureaucracy could even keep pace let alone deal with issues is naive and would lead us all into an Aldous Huxley's Brave New World, an Orwellian nightmare.

[Possum577]

Isn't this what the United Nations is for?

Calling it Government will guarantee that it never happens. We don't need a world governed by one administration. We need a world were all administrations have committed to following the same high-level of select standards.

[AtheistAKASaneBrain]

Isn't this what the United Nations is for?

Calling it Government will guarantee that it never happens. We don't need a world governed by one administration. We need a world were all administrations have committed to following the same high-level of select standards.

The wealthy elite wants one world goverment to secure their wealth, this includes Bill Gates. Im sure they will come up with their own electronic cash .

[jaysabi]

Isn't this what the United Nations is for?

Calling it Government will guarantee that it never happens. We don't need a world governed by one administration. We need a world were all administrations have committed to following the same high-level of select standards.

The UN is voluntary though, with no ability to enforce its decisions. Unless my understanding is wrong, wouldn't the point of having one world 'government' differ in that it would function as we know governments to function now? That is, they make laws and enforce them through the use of force?

[noddy2000]

Interesting that the ex-head of an industry giant, herald of the movement to put computers in classrooms, who helped see MS Windows come to be, MS Office, the rest...now buys in completely to man-made climate change,

It's not about "buying in", it's about taking precautions against black swan events. In the case of climate change, the so-called climate "sceptics" are the idiots here. They don't understand risk.

The risk of extreme events, such as a humanitarian calamity caused by massive crop failure/food destruction, caused by (take your pick...)
cloud seeding and temperature changes at ground level from particulate emissions,
sustained high CO2 (as opposed to short volcanic bursts),
acid rain,
extinction of a top predator, resulting in plagues,
droughts...

cannot be calculated, so the deciding factor should be the extremeness, not the unlikelihood.

The problem with the sceptics is that they're like the banks in 2007. Or, for that matter, the communists in 1986 reluctantly talking about a "minor hiccup" in one of their Soviet nuclear plants. Because talk is so cheap, it means that climate-change sceptics can publish (notice I said publish, not write) influential papers and give zero shits when other people's lives could be at stake.

The climate sceptic's basic argument is financially motivated. There would not be such a fuss if taking precautions was free. Voodoo or not, nobody would care. But it's not free, it would mean pumping oil out of the ground at a physically slower rate, or devoting much less land to cattle farming.

Even the weather cannot be predicted accurately for more than a few days in advance because it's chaotic. Applying this knowledge to climate models, we can say that at worst there's a complete lack of evidence for man-made effects (and hence we would also be unable to "fix" things like CO2 levels). However, that's not evidence of absence, so pointing the finger at environmentalists is not so bright.

It's funny how the "sceptics" have hijacked the word sceptic, when they're not the ones actually being sceptical. It's the maligned greenies and environmentalists who are the real sceptics, because they don't blindly subscribe to the "free market capitalism will miraculously solve everything" religion.



Moving on, I think that on a global scale, trying to create -- or find -- a world government would be a lot like trying to pinpoint the exact location of consciousness in the human brain (where, for instance, large chunks of the brain would be national governments). Hehe suckers....

I think it's good that Gates wants this conversation though. There seems to be an over-reliance on "dead" (undead?) organisational structures, where lots of people participate and believe in the machine, but very few people want to step-up and make mindful, responsible decisions. Lack of personal accountability in the system is a serious problem, and in my opinion a world government(TM) would simply provide a convenient scapegoat for people to blame.

Councioiness resides in the heart, your looking in the wrong place. As for transhumanist(eugenist) gates, he's apart of the elite that use social engineering on us. He's an unempathetic ass wipe that needs to be eradicating along with all the other fuck face satanic whores of the world.

It amazes me how many people in bitcoin don't get the purpose of why this invention of the Bitcoin protocol is so important for humanity and decentralising everything. Oh yes I do, your all here because of greed! Only thing that actually as worth is your labour, and you give it away for false wealth and false securities! All programmed at school to be obediant and not to think critically or question things, the exact thing your brain is for! Prefering to fill it with shit!

I never let schooling get in the way of my education - mark twain

You can only teach yourself! The idea of a 'teacher' is a false one! Its truely scary how brainwashed people are today!

[noddy2000]

Adolf Hitler had a similar vision

Ah, the Hitler project. No shot, that's what it was called, funded by monarchies and banksters of the world. The first time the rich ever created there own army. There office was in the united states even. Again, history as been manipulated through the programming of school. No one knows there own history and as been taught to accept what there told lacking any sense of critical thinking. And if you do your a 'tin foil hat' or 'conspiracy theorist'. Its easy to label people so people choice that option instead of been a man and facing the issues that are not easy!

Joke about 'conspiracy theory' is that that is the conspiracy lol. Misinformation and disinformation helps with divide and conquer.

The Bitcoin protocol will help the 6.5 billion on this planet rise because they understand what life about! The 1.5 billion in so called developed countries will be left behind because they are just brainwashed sacks of shit. Not there fault tbh either but who said life was fair! All the the Bitcoin protocol can do is make it an even playing field for everyone. The only people who bennifit from class systems is the 0.00001% at the top! And they don't want to let go of the power that their thieving anchesters took. That sums up what's going on in this world pretty much. Unempathetic peodophiles are manipulating everyone but people don't want to face the truth when the truth sets you free!

Meh, why bother. I'm talking to greedy mofo's who don't understand that they are manipulated through fear (fictional events actually realised) and think paper, gold, silver actually is wealth lol. Hell is here on earth right now! Were living in it! They use our own emotions against us all the time. They don't have remorse or regret and would sell there own gran out to make a buck! Fact is 3-5% of people lack empathy, and without empathy humanity is doomed!

No love in this world anymore. Everyones controlled by bullsbit fear! You know were born without fear and they use it to mold us Into what they want. Well try, some of us fall through the net because we use critical thinking g and question everything. Humans have the ability to think out the box separate ourselves from our emotions but most don't use this ability. To be wise is to have experience, and to have experience you have many failures!

People are going be awoken soon anyways, this bullshit is falling apart that a few have created and they are losing their grip. Who are they? Well, just look at the STATE of London, STAtE of Washington DC, STATE of Vatican, STATE of Israel. Notice a re-acurance here? All these STATES have there own laws and is where true evil sits in this world. Goes all the way back to at least the romans. They faded in around 300ad when the Byzantines took over and used the old roman mailing system as spy networks. From them the khazars used the Jewish religion because it allowed for tax and charging for passage on the silk road. Christianity and muslims would not allow these kinds of theft tactics. That's the only reason they use the Jewish religion, these people don't have a religion in truth and crypto Jews are just scum.

And now its your turn to berate me because thats easy to do instead of going away and looking Into what I say and teaching yourselves in 3....2....1.....

P.s - if you are Interested in what I say, here is an excellent documentary on how they manipulate us through fear, its called social engineering and its been going on for millennia but the tools they have today! Just sick!

Human resources - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rnJEdDNDsI

[Gyfts]

I honestly don't blame him. The idea of a global government that governs all nations, all people, clearly is a horrible idea, but the idea of having some sort of unity between nations is something all developed countries strive for, so I think this is what he's hinting at. Things like climate change are viewed so differently on different levels. You have democrats here fighting for global warming, and the Middle East glorifying it, perhaps if people were on the same level things would be better for the world. Global government, meh, global unity through some organization, that sounds like a better plan in my opinion.

[manis]

Isn't this what the United Nations is for?

Calling it Government will guarantee that it never happens. We don't need a world governed by one administration. We need a world were all administrations have committed to following the same high-level of select standards.

The UN is a toothless body.

[coric]

The UN was made for one purpose, and so far it has succeded in it: preventing a third world war, fought with nukes. That is how the security council was selected, and the purpose of the veto rights. Small-scale wars were considered unavoidable. Stuff like UNESCO is just fluffy bonus programs that don't hurt the great powers.

Global government? Fine for me if it was democratic and extremely decentralized... but that's not what someone like Gates has in mind, and illusionary in the current ideological climate. What he wants is the realistic version: a capitalist oligarchy with himself in a place in the politburo.

[BitMos]

Gates earth foot print exceed the ones of most politburo members... but more seriously the kid wants one thing (you can see it with free win10 to impose dx12 to all those gpus that could move once and for all to a open source system but...) IS TO IMPOSE INTELLECTUAL PROPRIETY RIGHTS. that's why he support gmos (dna patent)... he has to do it worldwide, as chairman of msft. Problem is that on some basis he may be right to want to copyright digital code that has no bearing in reality, but dna... that's another story. and so their chosen strategy, even if once backed by the USMIIC may now not be that appropriated... what's ironic is that the USMIIC had to learn the absurdity of I.P. law in War... pathetic that even someone thought about that...

[noddy2000]

The UN was made for one purpose, and so far it has succeded in it: preventing a third world war, fought with nukes. That is how the security council was selected, and the purpose of the veto rights. Small-scale wars were considered unavoidable. Stuff like UNESCO is just fluffy bonus programs that don't hurt the great powers.

Global government? Fine for me if it was democratic and extremely decentralized... but that's not what someone like Gates has in mind, and illusionary in the current ideological climate. What he wants is the realistic version: a capitalist oligarchy with himself in a place in the politburo.

Bullshit, un was formed to create a world army for the elites once again. You really need stop sipping the cool aid and look and think for yourself because all media as been controlled by the mafia since 1940s when they brought it all up. You've lived all your life in a era where its all controlled and I mean all. Nothing you see or read or programmed at school is true. Its all double speak!

Have a look and think for yourself what the un as done in the past and is pushing for! Its not peace! And they are the one with the armies that go into all these war zones in the guise of bringing peace! Army's do not bring peace! Wake up and smell the roses and stop drinking the bullshit coolaid!

This is all probably too heavy for the people here because your obviously nowhere near opening your eyes to the truth. But remember, even in a minority of 1, the truth is still the truth! Also remember when your thinking about these things, even if your not thinking completely correctly, your still a danger to the few at the top because you are thinking!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BHc8cdL9xQk

Snap out of the daze your all under! So sad that this site is swamped by people who don't understand the importance of block chain technology! No government! Period is the only answer! People power! Otherwise, we are all fucked! No matter where your from if these sick fucks get what they want!

[Spendulus]

Interesting that the ex-head of an industry giant, herald of the movement to put computers in classrooms, who helped see MS Windows come to be, MS Office, the rest...now buys in completely to man-made climate change,

It's not about "buying in", it's about taking precautions against black swan events. In the case of climate change, the so-called climate "sceptics" are the idiots here. They don't understand risk.

The risk of extreme events, such as a humanitarian calamity caused by massive crop failure/food destruction, caused by (take your pick...)
cloud seeding and temperature changes at ground level from particulate emissions,
sustained high CO2 (as opposed to short volcanic bursts),
acid rain,
extinction of a top predator, resulting in plagues,
droughts...

cannot be calculated, so the deciding factor should be the extremeness, not the unlikelihood.
......

Hmmm....and why exactly does "extremeness" make the climate sceptics the idiots? 

This would mean that speaking your mind honestly about errors in scientific work cannot be allowed.  That's what climate skeptics do.

I don't think this argument is supportable by Taleb's work on "black swans."

[BADecker]

The only kind of global government that will work is one that advances communications and transportation to all people, let's people do trade freely, and eliminates all the formal governments of the world.

Bitcoin will be a big part of this happening.