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Question: If you had time machine, would you go back and kill Hitler or buy bitcoins?
kill Hitler - 9 (15.3%)
buy bitcoins - 50 (84.7%)
Total Voters: 59

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July 21, 2012, 03:30:07 PM
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This is scientific research on human nature, please answer truthfully. You are in position to prevent ~56 million deaths and spare suffering to hundreds of millions human beings, or make yourself unbelievably rich. No cheating, you can use machine only once (and come back), you cannot go back, kill Hitler and send yourself note into the future to buy bitcoins.

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July 21, 2012, 03:54:39 PM
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Bitcoin is fairly recent so there is less rick of irrevocable harm.
Who know's what the world would be like if you added 56 million (Really? 56million?!) to the population 4 generations back.
It could be very crowded, we mightn't have as much industry, another more powerful nation might have taken up the fashist cause and won.

And if that doesn't worry you, one of these 56 million might have killed, married, otherwise detoured one of your fore-bearers and prevented
the amazing You from coming into existence. I for one, wouldn't want to live in that world.
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July 21, 2012, 04:16:16 PM
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go back, mine coins, return, pay someone else to go back and kill hitler Wink
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July 21, 2012, 06:07:41 PM
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Bitcoin is fairly recent so there is less rick of irrevocable harm.
Who know's what the world would be like if you added 56 million (Really? 56million?!) to the population 4 generations back.
It could be very crowded, we mightn't have as much industry, another more powerful nation might have taken up the fashist cause and won.

And if that doesn't worry you, one of these 56 million might have killed, married, otherwise detoured one of your fore-bearers and prevented
the amazing You from coming into existence. I for one, wouldn't want to live in that world.

I don't think it would have so much impact on world's population, maybe we would be at 9-10 billion mark right now. In 1939 the world had 2.3 billion of people, war took 2.5% of them (Wikipedia reports up to 78m casualties), average growth since then is about 1.55%, so that's less that 2 years of "work" Wink

If we're going to speculate, yes, it could be much worse, but there is a chance that it would be way better (I hate butterfly effect). Now to think of it, there is also great chance that if not for WW2 and cold war afterwards, we wouldn't have so many breakthroughs in technology, medicine, saving more that 56 million of people. Everything is relative I guess.


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July 21, 2012, 06:43:59 PM
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Lessons would not have been learned if not for the Holocaust.

When you look at it from a strictly academic point of view, Hitler was actually a very smart man.

disclaimer: I am Jewish and in no way support what he did

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July 21, 2012, 07:33:03 PM
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This is scientific research on human nature, please answer truthfully. You are in position to prevent ~56 million deaths and spare suffering to hundreds of millions human beings, or make yourself unbelievably rich. No cheating, you can use machine only once (and come back), you cannot go back, kill Hitler and send yourself note into the future to buy bitcoins.
What if by killing hitler you delay world war 2 by like 10 or 20 years and then it start with nuclear weapons? It will be much much worse
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July 21, 2012, 07:37:54 PM
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Seeing as the market cap for bitcoin isn't really all that high in the scheme of things, you'd be able to do a lot better than going back to buy bitcoins. So if you're going for greed, I'm not sure that's the correct pick.

But no one would be upset at you for picking Hitler, so do that. Unless you're going to do this, of course: http://xkcd.com/1063/
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July 21, 2012, 07:41:01 PM
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Lol at 1 (Hitler) vs. 16 (Bitcoin)

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July 21, 2012, 07:42:38 PM
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Seeing as the market cap for bitcoin isn't really all that high in the scheme of things, you'd be able to do a lot better than going back to buy bitcoins. So if you're going for greed, I'm not sure that's the correct pick.

But no one would be upset at you for picking Hitler, so do that. Unless you're going to do this, of course: http://xkcd.com/1063/

Lol, thought of that xkcd too.

Not to veer off from OP but if you killed Adolf Hitler and he never became Hitler, why would you go back to kill him?
Just wondering if there's any way to escape that loop.
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July 21, 2012, 07:42:49 PM
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Damn, I'm the first to vote for taking out Adolf? Huh Nuts!
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July 21, 2012, 07:45:06 PM
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well with a time machine you can do both lol

or if you can only do one thing, i would go back and steal the time machine  Grin
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July 21, 2012, 07:46:27 PM
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well with a time machine you can do both lol

or if you can only do one thing, i would go back and steal the time machine  Grin

One-use time machine.
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July 21, 2012, 07:48:44 PM
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If there's was no return ticket I'd stick around, work hard and invest my savings in electronics and semiconductors.
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July 22, 2012, 03:44:40 AM
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Buy bitcoins, of course. As all time-travellers ought to know, it is impossible to alter history due to the Novikov self-consistency principle. Though that doesn't mean that killing Hitler is impossible, as long as you do it in a way that doesn't alter history:


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July 22, 2012, 04:55:57 AM
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Sure, killing someone is really easy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_attempts_on_Adolf_Hitler

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July 22, 2012, 07:37:01 AM
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Buy bitcoins for sure. Yeah, Hitler was an evil dude, but really it was an idea. You can't kill an idea. If it was not for Hitler doing what he did, plenty of other countries would have fallen to the same idea sooner or later. That's just how I feel about that.

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July 22, 2012, 08:41:52 AM
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Buy bitcoins for sure. Yeah, Hitler was an evil dude, but really it was an idea. You can't kill an idea. If it was not for Hitler doing what he did, plenty of other countries would have fallen to the same idea sooner or later. That's just how I feel about that.

I wouldn't call it a feeling, what you are stating is obvious. Hitler is a cult of personality. I'm glad allies are finding it as useful as the Nazis did.
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July 23, 2012, 12:14:23 AM
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I guess it really depends on the kind of person you are.  Would I have loved to get in on bitcoins when they were like $0.0000002 per coin? YES!  Buy 10,000 coins for $2?  Sure!  Sell 10,000 coins for 200,000?  HECK YEAH!  But, killing hitler?  Changes the world.  Literally.  Gotta do it.  Makes you wonder what the world would be like without the holocaust.

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July 23, 2012, 12:26:41 AM
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Why not just go back and buy tickets for a $300M powerball lottery or two? Then invest it in AAPL back in 2004 when it was $11/share, and cash out today at $600/share. You can buy a lot of BTC for US$16B
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July 23, 2012, 12:41:36 AM
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that question is stupid. Hitler was, like most people in the newbie section, a sockpuppet. I mean really, think about it. When hitler was jung, he had jewish friend, some of them he publicly stepped in for. Hitler never planned to kill all jews. besides, if you read his book, you know he probably wasnt the brightest. And THAT GUY is supposed to be a brilliant mastermind that started a war, and organized to kill 6 million jews? Seriously, if you ask me most of the evidence points to some guy/group of guys who pulled the strings. I dont think hitler had the brains to do all the stuff that was done in his name. Lets not forget he fucked his cousin and lived as a gay hooker in his youth...
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