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February 03, 2015, 04:58:36 PM
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ou can tell when a battle has been won.  Read the Pink News or any other gay news site and you will see that there are almost no stories left to report.  A politician in Northern Ireland may be caught expressing an opinion on gay marriage which was the view of all mainstream UK political parties ten years ago.  There might be some gossip about various celebrities (so no different from any other newspapers).  But otherwise gay news sites are reduced to tentatively wondering if Transgender rights are the same as gay rights (the jury is out) and otherwise running mainstream politics stories which strangely favour the Lib Dems while expressing an inherited hostility towards the Tories and Ukip.  This is no tragedy.  It is a demonstration of the fact that after victory people get on with life as normal.

Of course not very far away there are people who take a quite different view of these matters.  In the newspapers today we can see photos of events in the Syrian town of Raqqa.  There Isis have just carried out another ‘execution’ of someone accused of being gay.  The victim – this time a man in his 50s – was thrown off the top floor of a seven-storey building.  He appears to have survived the fall and so was stoned to death by the crowd on the ground.

What are right-thinking people to do about this?  For most of them it isn’t easy because they don’t even know where to begin thinking about this and have been taught to be almost fearful about speaking about it.

I think we can probably say with some confidence that if an evangelical Christian group threw gays off towers in the Deep South, gay media outlets would currently be lambasting the Christian churches for a history of homophobia which had led to this pass.  There would be demands for every prominent and obscure Christian pastor to condemn this brutal act.  And they would.  If a group of group of deeply extrovert Jews did a similar thing we could, I think, expect a similarly stern response.  But the most that can be done with Isis is simply to report the facts and let them sit there, as though they come from nowhere.  As if the traditions of throwing gays off buildings or collapsing walls on them and so on are probably just accretions of colonial times with no connection to any religious tradition.  And so, anyway – back to minor stories about Tom Daley or Clare Balding.

There are those who believe that the fight for gay rights, or indeed human rights in general, stops at the borders of Islam.  Very few people seem to realise that they should not.  Of course we have legions of celebrities who are willing to sign letters calling for posthumous pardons for Alan Turing and others.  But how do these people select their targets?  Well, whenever I ask that question the best answer I hear is that people try to do things in their own societies because that is where they can make most difference.  Well, Alan Turing is dead.  It is hard to think of anything more tokenistic or pointless than ‘pardoning’ a man after he’s been tormented and many years after he has died.  But it is, of course, really really easy.

As for encouraging grass-roots responses on the ground (which is where everybody of course hopes it will come from), for the forseeable future is it hard to see the opportunities for a decent LGBT society to flourish in Isis-held territory.  So where are all these people who profess to care about gay rights?  Their absence suggests to me that agreement has broadly been reached that religious sensitivities trump human rights, as long as the sensitivities in question are Islamic.


http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/02/who-does-the-battle-for-gay-rights-stop-at-the-borders-of-islam/


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February 03, 2015, 05:04:38 PM
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Women are still battling for their rights in these countries.
And they outnumber gays.... easily.  Tongue
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February 03, 2015, 07:40:38 PM
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dont know wot the fuss is about i hath no problem if a man wants to put his willy up another mans bum islam can go and fuck themselves in their silly black gowns bunch of freaks
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February 03, 2015, 08:08:31 PM
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dont know wot the fuss is about i hath no problem if a man wants to put his willy up another mans bum islam can go and fuck themselves in their silly black gowns bunch of freaks


The fuss is the pink mafia, who's fight is for the right of a man who wants to put his willy up another mans bum, stops at the borders of islam, according to the article.

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February 03, 2015, 08:12:18 PM
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sodomy is an affront to civilisation and nature there is no place for it in this world

Be radical, have principles, be absolute, be that which the bourgeoisie calls an extremist: give yourself without counting or calculating, don't accept what they call ‘the reality of life' and act in such a way that you won't be accepted by that kind of ‘life', never abandon the principle of struggle.
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February 03, 2015, 08:16:43 PM
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sodomy is an affront to civilisation and nature there is no place for it in this world



Gay Porn Strangely Popular In Pakistan, Nigeria: Report




Nigeria and Pakistan are two of the planet's most anti-gay countries, so why are residents of both nations searching for so much gay porn?

As eagle-eyed Alex Park pointed out in a recent Mother Jones post, Pakistan is, according to Google Trends, "by volume the world leader for Google searches of the terms 'shemale sex,' 'teen anal sex,' and 'man f-cking man.'"

Both Pakistan and Nigeria rank in the top five for Google searches of the term "gay sex pics" and "anal sex pics." Kenya, another vehemently anti-gay nation, ranked first for both searches.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/14/gay-porn-pakistan_n_3437529.html


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February 03, 2015, 08:21:11 PM
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Why does the battle for gay rights stop at the borders of Islam? Because all the women in the harems are gay, and women don't have any rights in Islam.

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February 03, 2015, 08:27:14 PM
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sodomy is an affront to civilisation and nature there is no place for it in this world



Gay Porn Strangely Popular In Pakistan, Nigeria: Report




Nigeria and Pakistan are two of the planet's most anti-gay countries, so why are residents of both nations searching for so much gay porn?

As eagle-eyed Alex Park pointed out in a recent Mother Jones post, Pakistan is, according to Google Trends, "by volume the world leader for Google searches of the terms 'shemale sex,' 'teen anal sex,' and 'man f-cking man.'"

Both Pakistan and Nigeria rank in the top five for Google searches of the term "gay sex pics" and "anal sex pics." Kenya, another vehemently anti-gay nation, ranked first for both searches.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/14/gay-porn-pakistan_n_3437529.html


nothing strange about it there are perverts everywhere

Be radical, have principles, be absolute, be that which the bourgeoisie calls an extremist: give yourself without counting or calculating, don't accept what they call ‘the reality of life' and act in such a way that you won't be accepted by that kind of ‘life', never abandon the principle of struggle.
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February 03, 2015, 08:30:41 PM
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sodomy is an affront to civilisation and nature there is no place for it in this world



Gay Porn Strangely Popular In Pakistan, Nigeria: Report




Nigeria and Pakistan are two of the planet's most anti-gay countries, so why are residents of both nations searching for so much gay porn?

As eagle-eyed Alex Park pointed out in a recent Mother Jones post, Pakistan is, according to Google Trends, "by volume the world leader for Google searches of the terms 'shemale sex,' 'teen anal sex,' and 'man f-cking man.'"

Both Pakistan and Nigeria rank in the top five for Google searches of the term "gay sex pics" and "anal sex pics." Kenya, another vehemently anti-gay nation, ranked first for both searches.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/14/gay-porn-pakistan_n_3437529.html


nothing strange about it there are perverts everywhere

Pakistan and Nigeria: ranking and ranking and ranking on top five of the gay olympics  Grin

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February 03, 2015, 09:17:13 PM
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sodomy is an affront to civilisation and nature there is no place for it in this world

Amen!
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February 03, 2015, 11:57:27 PM
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sodomy is an affront to civilisation and nature there is no place for it in this world


Gay Porn Strangely Popular In Pakistan, Nigeria: Report



Nigeria and Pakistan are two of the planet's most anti-gay countries, so why are residents of both nations searching for so much gay porn?

As eagle-eyed Alex Park pointed out in a recent Mother Jones post, Pakistan is, according to Google Trends, "by volume the world leader for Google searches of the terms 'shemale sex,' 'teen anal sex,' and 'man f-cking man.'"

Both Pakistan and Nigeria rank in the top five for Google searches of the term "gay sex pics" and "anal sex pics." Kenya, another vehemently anti-gay nation, ranked first for both searches.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/14/gay-porn-pakistan_n_3437529.html

People are just curious to see what all the fuss is about.  Grin
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