What are the differences between ShadowCash and Darkcoin ? Both seems very nice

[Dofus]

Shadowcash is some smalltime alt that you are pumping whereas Darkcoin is an established cryptocurrency with a huge following and a far greater degree of legitimacy and respect within the community (aka, anybody who knows anything about cryptocurrency).

That's the difference.

Lol pumping it... Just wanted to ask questions.
And by the way a old coin is not 100% of times a good coin or the best coin

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[nutildah]

Lol pumping it... Just wanted to ask questions.
And by the way a old coin is not 100% of times a good coin or the best coin

No, but in this instance it is. Nobody gives a shit about Shadowcash. If you do, you don't know very much about how this whole "cryptocurrency investment" thing works.

[systh]

All right. So there's a lot of opinions, make yours.

Let's just stop here before this grows into another massive flame.

[Brilliantrocket]

I think this quote from smooth distills the essence of SDC rather effectively.

There are no other cryptonote-based coins in the top 100 on coinmarketcap besides XMR and BCN.

SDC uses a cryptonote-based design for their anonymous tokens, which is a bit different in terms of coin design and doesn't share code but the cryptography is almost identical.

They call it "zero knowledge solution" though.

Perhaps that is self descriptive.

[Coolstoryteller]

I think this quote from smooth summarizes SDC rather effectively.

There are no other cryptonote-based coins in the top 100 on coinmarketcap besides XMR and BCN.

SDC uses a cryptonote-based design for their anonymous tokens, which is a bit different in terms of coin design and doesn't share code but the cryptography is almost identical.

They call it "zero knowledge solution" though.

Perhaps that is self descriptive.

I didn't see "XMR" or "BCN" in the title of this thread. The shameless promotion "distills" the "essence" of your motives here.

Interesting bit of information I found in the comment section of the recent SDC article regarding Cryptonote, which is why I'm glad SDC doesn't share it's codebase. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CryptoNote#NSA_involvement

"Darknote" is also a CN based coin in the top 100

[Brilliantrocket]

I think this quote from smooth summarizes SDC rather effectively.

There are no other cryptonote-based coins in the top 100 on coinmarketcap besides XMR and BCN.

SDC uses a cryptonote-based design for their anonymous tokens, which is a bit different in terms of coin design and doesn't share code but the cryptography is almost identical.

They call it "zero knowledge solution" though.

Perhaps that is self descriptive.

I didn't see "XMR" or "BCN" in the title of this thread. The shameless promotion "distills" the "essence" of your motives here.

Interesting bit of information I found in the comment section of the recent SDC article regarding Cryptonote, which is why I'm glad SDC doesn't share it's codebase. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CryptoNote#NSA_involvement

"Darknote" is also a CN based coin in the top 100

What is that supposed to imply? You do realize that the NSA has a hand in an extensive variety of cryptography research, right? You use algorithms and protocols developed with NSA funding on a daily basis. Furthermore, all of the things listed on that article are speculation.

[Coolstoryteller]

I think this quote from smooth summarizes SDC rather effectively.

There are no other cryptonote-based coins in the top 100 on coinmarketcap besides XMR and BCN.

SDC uses a cryptonote-based design for their anonymous tokens, which is a bit different in terms of coin design and doesn't share code but the cryptography is almost identical.

They call it "zero knowledge solution" though.

Perhaps that is self descriptive.

I didn't see "XMR" or "BCN" in the title of this thread. The shameless promotion "distills" the "essence" of your motives here.

Interesting bit of information I found in the comment section of the recent SDC article regarding Cryptonote, which is why I'm glad SDC doesn't share it's codebase. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CryptoNote#NSA_involvement

"Darknote" is also a CN based coin in the top 100

What is that supposed to imply? You do realize that the NSA has a hand in an extensive variety of cryptography research, right? You use algorithms and protocols developed with NSA funding on a daily basis. Furthermore, all of the things listed on that article are speculation.

I'm not implying anything, you should contact the poster on wikipedia to find out what they are implying. Apparently that post is related to CN based coins not SDC. I'm simply saying I'm glad that controversy isn't related to SDC since it is Bitcoin based.

[tacotime]

I think this quote from smooth summarizes SDC rather effectively.

There are no other cryptonote-based coins in the top 100 on coinmarketcap besides XMR and BCN.

SDC uses a cryptonote-based design for their anonymous tokens, which is a bit different in terms of coin design and doesn't share code but the cryptography is almost identical.

They call it "zero knowledge solution" though.

Perhaps that is self descriptive.

I didn't see "XMR" or "BCN" in the title of this thread. The shameless promotion "distills" the "essence" of your motives here.

Interesting bit of information I found in the comment section of the recent SDC article regarding Cryptonote, which is why I'm glad SDC doesn't share it's codebase. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CryptoNote#NSA_involvement

"Darknote" is also a CN based coin in the top 100

Clearly from a reputable source:
http://www.cryptobang.com/2014/10/05/what-nsa-created-cryptonote-for

Stuff the wiki has wrong:
(1) Keccak was announced as SHA3 in 2012, BCN/CryptoNote was being developed in late 2013 https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2012/10/keccak_is_sha-3.html
(2) CN doesn't use Chaumian blinding (signature blinding)
(3) Bitcoin implementations up to this point use non-deterministic k values, talk of using an HMAC to generate them has been relatively recent. You could make your own implementation that uses it though. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=285142.0
(4) "Being ASIC-resistant CryptoNote-based currencies can be easily manipulated by NSA possessing big computational resources." This is simply pure conjecturing

[Coolstoryteller]

I think this quote from smooth summarizes SDC rather effectively.

There are no other cryptonote-based coins in the top 100 on coinmarketcap besides XMR and BCN.

SDC uses a cryptonote-based design for their anonymous tokens, which is a bit different in terms of coin design and doesn't share code but the cryptography is almost identical.

They call it "zero knowledge solution" though.

Perhaps that is self descriptive.

I didn't see "XMR" or "BCN" in the title of this thread. The shameless promotion "distills" the "essence" of your motives here.

Interesting bit of information I found in the comment section of the recent SDC article regarding Cryptonote, which is why I'm glad SDC doesn't share it's codebase. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CryptoNote#NSA_involvement

"Darknote" is also a CN based coin in the top 100

Clearly from a reputable source:
http://www.cryptobang.com/2014/10/05/what-nsa-created-cryptonote-for

Stuff the wiki has wrong:
(1) Keccak was announced as SHA3 in 2012, BCN/CryptoNote was being developed in late 2013 https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2012/10/keccak_is_sha-3.html
(2) CN doesn't use Chaumian blinding (signature blinding)
(3) Bitcoin implementations up to this point use non-deterministic k values, talk of using an HMAC to generate them has been relatively recent. You could make your own implementation that uses it though. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=285142.0
(4) "Being ASIC-resistant CryptoNote-based currencies can be easily manipulated by NSA possessing big computational resources." This is simply pure conjecturing

I would reach out to them and get that corrected Tacotime. Should only take a few moments.

[nutildah]

Regardless though, you've made your point that you aren't interested in technology innovations, just brand names so you're really not even someone who would be interested in using the coin outside of exchanging it for BTC. Hence your opinion on the matter doesn't mean much.

Cool story, bro.

And with that, I'm going to stop promoting this copycat coin with a crappy name and bumping this thread. And yes, brand name matters more than whatever "innovation" is being provided on occasion.

[Pline]

Shadowcash is some smalltime alt that you are pumping whereas Darkcoin is an established cryptocurrency with a huge following and a far greater degree of legitimacy and respect within the community (aka, anybody who knows anything about cryptocurrency).

That's the difference.

Pointing to marketcap and hype as the reason why DRK is better doesn't seem too smart.  If anything DRK is very overvalued, so makes it a bad investment at 9 million market cap.  Shadow has like $350,000 market cap, and is a better anon solution.  A smart investor would choose SDC over DRK for its huge upside potential.  If you think you are winning now, just wait a few months or a year.  Don't underestimate the power of the Shadow.  

Someone could say the same thing about DRK.  DRK is just some smalltime alt, invest in a real successful coin like dogecoin and litecoin because it has a bigger marketcap.

[Coolstoryteller]

Regardless though, you've made your point that you aren't interested in technology innovations, just brand names so you're really not even someone who would be interested in using the coin outside of exchanging it for BTC. Hence your opinion on the matter doesn't mean much.

Cool story, bro.

And with that, I'm going to stop promoting this copycat coin with a crappy name and bumping this thread. And yes, brand name matters more than whatever "innovation" is being provided on occasion.

Cool response, bro.

[Pline]

I think this quote from smooth distills the essence of SDC rather effectively.

There are no other cryptonote-based coins in the top 100 on coinmarketcap besides XMR and BCN.

SDC uses a cryptonote-based design for their anonymous tokens, which is a bit different in terms of coin design and doesn't share code but the cryptography is almost identical.

They call it "zero knowledge solution" though.

Perhaps that is self descriptive.

I think SDC is not just a copy of cryptonote.  Its more complicated and cryptonote tech is just one of the pieces of the puzzle.  When Satoshi built bitcoin, he didn't invent any new tech either.  All he did was put existing technical puzzle pieces together in a way that created a powerful incentive system.  The incentive system is the brilliance behind Bitcoin.  ShadowCash is doing a similar thing, putting the puzzle pieces together in a brilliant way.

Also soon Isidor Zeuner will have his review out on ShadowCash, which compares Shadow to cryptonote and other schemes, showing their similarities and differences, so that may put an end to the debate.

[Dofus]

I think this quote from smooth distills the essence of SDC rather effectively.

There are no other cryptonote-based coins in the top 100 on coinmarketcap besides XMR and BCN.

SDC uses a cryptonote-based design for their anonymous tokens, which is a bit different in terms of coin design and doesn't share code but the cryptography is almost identical.

They call it "zero knowledge solution" though.

Perhaps that is self descriptive.

I think SDC is not just a copy of cryptonote.  Its more complicated and cryptonote tech is just one of the pieces of the puzzle.  When Satoshi built bitcoin, he didn't invent any new tech either.  All he did was put existing technical puzzle pieces together in a way that created a powerful incentive system.  The incentive system is the brilliance behind Bitcoin.  ShadowCash is doing a similar thing, putting the puzzle pieces together in a brilliant way.

Also soon Isidor Zeuner will have his review out on ShadowCash, which compares Shadow to cryptonote and other schemes, showing their similarities and differences, so that may put an end to the debate.

This indeed would be freaking great, that was I waiting for. Keep us updated !

[tacotime]

I think SDC is not just a copy of cryptonote.  Its more complicated and cryptonote tech is just one of the pieces of the puzzle.  When Satoshi built bitcoin, he didn't invent any new tech either.  All he did was put existing technical puzzle pieces together in a way that created a powerful incentive system.  The incentive system is the brilliance behind Bitcoin.  ShadowCash is doing a similar thing, putting the puzzle pieces together in a brilliant way.

Also soon Isidor Zeuner will have his review out on ShadowCash, which compares Shadow to cryptonote and other schemes, showing their similarities and differences, so that may put an end to the debate.

ook

[illodin]

Pointing to marketcap and hype as the reason why DRK is better doesn't seem too smart.  If anything DRK is very overvalued, so makes it a bad investment at 9 million market cap.  Shadow has like $350,000 market cap, and is a better anon solution.  A smart investor would choose SDC over DRK for its huge upside potential.  If you think you are winning now, just wait a few months or a year.  Don't underestimate the power of the Shadow.

Let's just assume that everything you said is true. If I fork Shadow and tweak some encryption parameter or change the algorithm to something slightly better, I will have "better anon solution" and a smaller marketcap. Will you drop all your SDC and buy my coin because you're a smart investor?

[illodin]

If "nobody gave a shit about SDC" why would Evan of reached out to acquire the project?

He needed more dev power to make all his visions to come true. And he saw that SDC was trying to do essentially the same thing - private finances. And why SDC exactly? Probably because all the other privacy oriented currencies (or their communities) had gotten into a war with DRK already and any kind of collaboration wasn't going to be possible, SDC hadn't and they weren't established yet so they seemed like the only option if you were into recruiting a dev team. When the deal was off, DRK proceeded into recruiting more devs by other means, and the new people joined because they believe in DRK and want to actually support it. https://www.darkcoin.io/about/team-contact/

[dadon]

Lol pumping it... Just wanted to ask questions.
And by the way a old coin is not 100% of times a good coin or the best coin

No, but in this instance it is. Nobody gives a shit about Shadowcash. If you do, you don't know very much about how this whole "cryptocurrency investment" thing works.

SMH.. you must not know anything about "investments" in cryptocurrency to be making statements like that. I was one of the earliest DRK investors and am a huge supporter of the SDC efforts. Why? Because I support all legitimate privacy projects that have solid tech behind them and I'm not the only early DRK investor here either. If "nobody gave a shit about SDC" why would Evan of reached out to acquire the project?

While you are correct that DRK is an older coin and one of the main reasons it has the market cap it does is because it was a first mover in the anon vertical outside of the failed Stablecoin before it. First mover advantage only lasts so long, eventually when this particular vertical becomes the attention of a wider audience the best tech will gain the larger spotlight, not the first mover. Unlike Bitcoin or other variants not focused on privacy, the main focal point in the anon vertical is the level of anonymity a project provides the end user and this one reason why the tech is so important not the name. Both projects are originals for their own solution and that is what gives their name market strength.

The only thing SDC suffers from right now is a lack of media attention, which results in the project reaching a wider base outside of BCT. But all that is changing. Forbes news just tweeted about SDC today and they have 1.75 million followers. I wouldn't be surprised to see larger articles circulate soon.

Regardless though, you've made your point that you aren't interested in technology innovations, just brand names so you're really not even someone who would be interested in using the coin outside of exchanging it for BTC. Hence your opinion on the matter doesn't mean much.

Is it really true Forbes tweeted about SDC , Link?

[ffmad]

Pointing to marketcap and hype as the reason why DRK is better doesn't seem too smart.  If anything DRK is very overvalued, so makes it a bad investment at 9 million market cap.  Shadow has like $350,000 market cap, and is a better anon solution.  A smart investor would choose SDC over DRK for its huge upside potential.  If you think you are winning now, just wait a few months or a year.  Don't underestimate the power of the Shadow.

Let's just assume that everything you said is true. If I fork Shadow and tweak some encryption parameter or change the algorithm to something slightly better, I will have "better anon solution" and a smaller marketcap. Will you drop all your SDC and buy my coin because you're a smart investor?

SDC is not a copy of Darkcoin or CryptoNote, it's another solution, not a clone of anything. So your comparison is not interesting from start.

And Shadow is the first and only POS coin to be anonymous, so yes, this is a breakthrough  .

If someone fork Shadow and change some little things, Shadow will still be the first of its kind, no reason to choose a clone (and i would say tha Shadow will still be better than the clone, because of better devs)

[Dofus]

Thanks for your explanations guys  !

I'm on the #Darkcoin and #ShadowCash IRC channels ! SDC has about 110 members connected against 190 for DRK, not that bad