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February 10, 2015, 11:46:57 AM |
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Protect civilians from what? From bombs? With your sniper rifle? Or will you kill the bad Ukrainian soldiers who come in the night to rape women and abduct childrens?
Yes he probably means that. I personally think that this war was organized by some third party. And now just should be stopped at all cost.
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cryptocoiner
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February 10, 2015, 11:52:15 AM |
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I do not know what's so hard to understand that this is Ukrainian territory ... you do not fight for peace, you're just a terrorist. You can hold a foreign land occupied and expect the government simply accepts it. Imagine Ukraine would occupy some off russias territory. That would not last long .... P.S. Novorussia LOL ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Ukraine, Belarus, Russia. Ukrainians, Belarusians, Russians. Did you know that we all have in common? We are all - Slavs, Russians. I do not know how to translate it into English. Analogy - soldiers. Minesweeper, sniper, tanker, etc. - They have a generalization - soldiers. I think its better to be Kiev power in donbass than what it is now. You, my friend, just a puppet of some hidden power, nothing more. You just a murderer killing people, same like ukranian nationalistics troops. Stop it. Don't do anything.
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February 10, 2015, 08:19:39 PM |
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Does Russia does not provide this equipments?
LoL, if Russia were helping them, they would be in Kiev already. Think by yourself. It will take 3 days to end this war for russia. Same like with georgia. But it still going. People are dying. For 1 year already. Because USA and EU wants it to be like this. And they blame Russia. Saying its an agressor, lol. Isn't it better this way? Or we need one more world war?
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erre
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February 10, 2015, 09:46:56 PM |
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Protect civilians from what? From bombs? With your sniper rifle? Or will you kill the bad Ukrainian soldiers who come in the night to rape women and abduct childrens?
The only thing that will happen is that USA will give equipment to Ukrainian troops and everything will remain just where it is supposed to be, untill filthy politicians decide otherwise.
And you state you will kill and risk your life FOR FREE EVEN IF YOU ARE RUSSIAN (and I suppose a soldier), only to "help yours" ? come on....
Yes, I am defending innocent people of Donbass. free. This is my choice. do not sit at home on the couch, drinking in bars when people are dying. Bad choice. Defending from what, their elected government? If you want to save the world, there are a lot of places where your intervention is more needed. It seems that you've just made a typo. I suppose you mean "selected government", even Obama admitted that: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=949088.0So they're fighting against unconstitutionally imposed, criminal puppet "government", and their choice is absolutely legitimate. Even if you don't like that. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) What? He's not even ukrainian! Am I supposed to go to the neighboured countries to kill people in order to fight their imposed governments? I'm not interested in who is the black king and who the white, i'm only pointing out that OP is acting like a pawn in a game beetwen putin and obama, and this game is called destabilization by death and destruction. Pretty different from revolution imho.
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February 10, 2015, 11:19:19 PM |
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Erre's exactly right, all these people are doing is just deciding which master to serve, they don't know what true freedom is, that's why I take extreme issue with picking sides in places like Ukraine.
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February 11, 2015, 12:32:55 AM |
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Why do you ask for a job and say explicitly that it is to buy illegal weaponry ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) I think anyone in your position would say it is for humanitarian purposes or something. Or at least that it to buy common weapons that usually aren't army-only. Are you some kind of undercover agent trying to catch people and charge them for financing terrorism or something like that?
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February 11, 2015, 12:35:43 AM |
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Why do you ask for a job and say explicitly that it is to buy illegal weaponry ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) I think anyone in your position would say it is for humanitarian purposes or something. Or at least that it to buy common weapons that usually aren't army-only. Are you some kind of undercover agent trying to catch people and charge them for financing terrorism or something like that? What's illegal about it?
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February 11, 2015, 12:51:00 AM |
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i'm very torn here. from what i read United Armed Forces of Novorossiya are terrorists ? but i don't know, and what i read might as well be propaganda.
i first thought this was for a Ukraine Revolution or a Russian Revolution against Putin.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. The only reply worth reading +1 Good on you op i will mark this and if i get lucky with my holdings will be sure to drop by and help you as much as i can. Stay safe.
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February 11, 2015, 01:02:00 AM |
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February 11, 2015, 04:56:44 AM |
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Weapons - there. in the battles take some trophy rifles and sniper rifles. a shortage of good optics and thermal imagers. Sarcasm on fashion Resistance thank Obama and the US and offers to supply us with weapons directly, bypassing Ukraine. Anyway we win weapons in battle. Sarcasm mode off Anyone who calls us terrorists - should read the news reports correspondent Graham Phillips. https://www.youtube.com/user/gwplondonDo you still believe that the president, who began to kill their fellow citizens - is legitimate ??
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February 11, 2015, 06:41:53 AM |
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Do you still believe that the president, who began to kill their fellow citizens - is legitimate ??
That won't work... Some people like cryptocoiner won't understand that "selected resident" != "elected president".
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February 11, 2015, 07:24:57 AM |
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What should a president do, if some citizens (let's say 1%, that would be 400000 persons) use violence to take control over an area and declare affiliation to another government? Let them do? And are in this situation you, as a russian, "ethically allowed" (almost obliged, reading your words) to kill Ukrainians who do not want to join russia?
If you think so, let's talk about caucasus....
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February 12, 2015, 04:06:11 PM |
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February 12, 2015, 06:49:11 PM |
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Refuse to obeid the order to kill other people is a great idea, and works for both parts!
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February 15, 2015, 06:36:42 PM |
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Up.
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February 15, 2015, 07:25:21 PM |
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You have no idea how glad I am you did not die ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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February 15, 2015, 07:56:15 PM |
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You have no idea how glad I am you did not die ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Thank U! I am very tenacious.
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February 15, 2015, 11:28:31 PM |
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Isn't this war supposed to be over?
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February 16, 2015, 12:17:38 AM |
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Refuse to obeid the order to kill other people is a great idea, and works for both parts! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPWyx8ICwbY#t=196Well, it seems that this guy was absolutely right about his fate... Because he got a "fair" trial as the result of his publication. Viva democracy & freedom of press.
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