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February 08, 2015, 10:11:20 PM
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an exchange no one has heard of has 500 million of the 3 billion dollar market cap

someone ban the troll / scamming OP for posting this shit

Op is lying

Yeah I already mentioned that he might trie to panic here! He is a typical bear! You just have to check his posts.

Once again bull scammers tried to betray everyone by denying the truth. Be careful with any advices of these three people above. They are just trying to unload their bags @ higher prices, waiting for the next bigger fool to buy them out, just like dozens of other bull scammers on this board!






I am not sure I 100% believe the facts quoted in the article. I would say it is more likely that the exchange exaggerated the amount of money they were holding on behalf of their customers in order to attract more business.

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February 08, 2015, 10:16:10 PM
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There is a Chinese mycoin thread here that says they were limiting withdrawals in December. Here is the Google translated version.

http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php%3Ftopic%3D887200.0&prev=search

One post there says this

mycoin This platform is now also limiting withdrawals
Bitcoins can withdraw cash at the same time the number refers to sell to buy 50% BTC number, for example: buy 3 BTC, sell a BTC, currently available number of withdrawals 0.5 BTC
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February 08, 2015, 11:24:51 PM
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an exchange no one has heard of has 500 million of the 3 billion dollar market cap

someone ban the troll / scamming OP for posting this shit

Agreed, OP should be banned for repeatedly trying to spread untrue FUD.

Are you stupid? Can you even read? Do you think all those articles are made up? Did the bitcoin bearmarket destroy your brain, or are you just another typical bull scammer who is trying to discredit everyone and everything telling the truth?

Can you even read, Fonzi? Are you stupid, or a liar?
It was a Ponzi, why isn't that fact in your thread title?

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February 08, 2015, 11:37:16 PM
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I'm afraid, these investors have never seen a single satoshi, just like most of the stock traders never get their hands on a stock. That exchange has never owned any serious amount of bitcoin otherwise their wallet will be easily identified. But the clients might have lost that much money just like in a casino  Cool


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February 09, 2015, 12:07:59 AM
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an exchange no one has heard of has 500 million of the 3 billion dollar market cap

someone ban the troll / scamming OP for posting this shit

Agreed, OP should be banned for repeatedly trying to spread untrue FUD.

Are you stupid? Can you even read? Do you think all those articles are made up? Did the bitcoin bearmarket destroy your brain, or are you just another typical bull scammer who is trying to discredit everyone and everything telling the truth?

Can you even read, Fonzi? Are you stupid, or a liar?
It was a Ponzi, why isn't that fact in your thread title?


What a weak attempt trying to justify your false accusations.


BTW: I did write Mtgox which is just another synonym for a ponzi.  Cheesy

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February 09, 2015, 12:13:24 AM
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an exchange no one has heard of has 500 million of the 3 billion dollar market cap

someone ban the troll / scamming OP for posting this shit

Agreed, OP should be banned for repeatedly trying to spread untrue FUD.

Are you stupid? Can you even read? Do you think all those articles are made up? Did the bitcoin bearmarket destroy your brain, or are you just another typical bull scammer who is trying to discredit everyone and everything telling the truth?

Can you even read, Fonzi? Are you stupid, or a liar?
It was a Ponzi, why isn't that fact in your thread title?


What a weak attempt trying to justify your false accusations.


BTW: I did write Mtgox which is just another synonym for a ponzi.  Cheesy

Mt.gox wasn't a ponzi, it was a pure inside job ripoff, and CEO of mt.gox was a nobody who was in over his abilities,
please note the before he was trading magic the gathering cards..

Anyways, its now clear that this site has nothing to do with bitcoin price, and your title is definetly over exaggerated.
cheers


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February 09, 2015, 12:52:39 AM
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In the past several Hong Kong exchanges have run away with costomer funds  (GBL, 796, mycoin, ANX.....),
basicaly anyone dealing with a hong kong registered exchange deserves to get goxed

Can you please take this opportunity to advise how and when ANX has "run away with customer funds"?

Let's clarify a few items:

  • ANX launched in June 2013
  • Is a registered Hong Kong entity with a Money Services Operator license
  • has always relied on complete transparency
  • has welcomed thousands of customers to its offices on Hong Kong island
  • Is audited by a third party for both fiat and crypto reserves
  • has recently acquired Norways largest exchange, Justcoin.com aswell as CoinMKT.com in the US


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February 09, 2015, 06:01:41 AM
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  • has welcomed thousands of customers to its offices on Hong Kong island
seems legit
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February 09, 2015, 09:33:02 AM
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So the btc price hasn't changed since fonzie tries to panic.
Nothing big to deal with is my conclusion. Bye.

EDIT: Thanks for user "hknews" for clearing things up.

"Some one please translate this article in Chinese and hand it to the Hong Kong media please


Today a fake news about "A Hong Kong based exchanger mycoin.hk run off with 3 billion HKD (around 380 million US dollar)" came out in public, however the number of money lost in this news are FAKE!

Remember the $10 dollar fake bitcoins sold at Mtgox's last life cycle? If you took the risk to buy 1000 of them, can you say you lost 1000 * $220 current market price = 220,000 dollars? Well Hong Kong media definitely do so, same thing is happening again with mycoin.hk.Most bitcoins lost at there were bought at less than $20 US dollars!


news link:
http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1707565/investors-fear-hk3b-losses-closure-bitcoin-trading-company
http://money.udn.com/storypage.php?sub_id=5603&art_id=696371
http://cablenews.i-cable.com/webapps/news_video/index.php?news_id=451648
....

These news are ALL USING THE FAKE NUMBER


Most Hong Kong local news reporters don't understand the whole thing or just make up this huge number to create the "big lost" story in the name of bitcoin(new tech + big lost always take eye-balls),

I will show you how this "3 billion Hong Kong dollars" was made out:

Mycoin.hk is the runoff exchanger here (NOT mycoin.com, some media reporters mistaken reporting the exchanger's website domain), This exchanger has a really small market share, even smaller than kraken.com, it used to have around 500 btcs trades per day but about a half year ago it started to delay and stop processing client's withdrawals, since it's too small not many people even know about it, only some of their clients talked about it at months ago.

Mycoin.hk also set the daily bitcoin withdraw limit to 0.5 btc per day(since 3-5 months ago), then 0.1 per day(since about 2-3 months ago), then 0.01 per day(since 1-2 months ago), during this crazy time, bitcoin price traded on their exchange market dropped from market price to $500HKD $200HKD $100HKD $50HKD $20HKD $10HKD.. There are two reasons of this drop: First, the exchanger was trying to attract fiat deposits and stop clients from asking withdrawals like the Mtgox did, almost every Chinese including Hong Kong citizens kept warning/laughing at this old trick, however there are always some people would take the risk and made deposits to buy their "super cheap coins" and hoping may be they can withdraw again someday, Second, the exchanger was trying to pretend everything is fine and their trading activity is still high.

Most people in Mainland China and Hong Kong SAR know about this situation at long long time ago (people talked about this at many Chinese bitcoin forum since the end of 2014), Now today the exchanger finally gone down as everyone's expected.

The interesting thing is now the media journalists sum all the bitcoins in mycoin.hk's clients accounts and get the 3 billions HKD number from:
Amount of fake and super cheap bitcoin * current market price = 3 billions HKD <-- well, this is fake because most of bitcoins there never existed and were "bought" by risk takers and existing desperate clients at a price from $500hkd(60 USD) to $100hkd(16 USD) to $10hkd(1.2 USD) in recent months.

In conclusion, A really small exchanger gone down, less than may be let's say half million HKD(including real bitcoins deposited at there) is lost (because mycoin.hk stop processing withdrawals at long time ago, some real clients must have lost something), "100000000+" or whatever fake bicoins bought at there at a super discount price (99.9% off) are also gone, a so call "3 billions HKD (300 millions USD) lost" was added up by media reporters with a formula "never existed & super cheap fake coins" * current market price = "fake 3 billions HKD"

If you are waiting for those "never existed & super cheap fake coins" dump into the market, not gonna happen,
If you are waiting for Chinese market to panic, give it up, most Chinese know the mycoin.hk exchanger would runoff at a half year ago

That's it, thank you for reading, and please, if someone know or connected to the Hong Kong news  media please ask them to correct this outrageous howler."
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February 09, 2015, 12:09:00 PM
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HOLY SHIT! IT´S CRASHING. IT LOOKS LIKE MOST OF THE CHINESE HAVE FINALLY READ THE NEWS! IT`S LOOKING TERRIBLE!

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February 09, 2015, 12:40:38 PM
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You are desperate, aren't you, fonzie ponzie?
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February 09, 2015, 12:43:23 PM
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News about the situation:


"MyCoin now value its bitcoins at only HK$20 per unit compared to the international bitcoin price of around HK$1,727 (US$222) on Monday.

The aggrieved clients, who claim MyCoin is a pyramid scheme packaged as bitcoin trading, said they had been unable to contact the company’s management, while sales staff at higher levels claimed they too had been the victims of deception."


Source : http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1708308/mycoin-director-quit-one-month-bitcoin-platform-changed-trading-rules

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February 09, 2015, 01:19:26 PM
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News about the situation:


"MyCoin now value its bitcoins at only HK$20 per unit compared to the international bitcoin price of around HK$1,727 (US$222) on Monday.

The aggrieved clients, who claim MyCoin is a pyramid scheme packaged as bitcoin trading, said they had been unable to contact the company’s management, while sales staff at higher levels claimed they too had been the victims of deception."


Source : http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1708308/mycoin-director-quit-one-month-bitcoin-platform-changed-trading-rules



That´s even more discount than Gox gave at the end.

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February 09, 2015, 01:28:11 PM
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This is the article of coindesk :

"Reports are emerging from Hong Kong that local bitcoin exchange MyCoin has shut its doors, taking with it possibly as much as HK$3bn ($386.9m) in investor funds.

If true, the supposed losses are a staggering amount, although this estimate is based on the company's own earlier claims that it served 3,000 clients who had invested HK$1m ($12,890) each."



http://www.coindesk.com/hong-kong-exchange-mycoin-disappears-387m-reports-claim/
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February 09, 2015, 02:54:27 PM
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HOLY SHIT! IT´S CRASHING. IT LOOKS LIKE MOST OF THE CHINESE HAVE FINALLY READ THE NEWS! IT`S LOOKING TERRIBLE!

price will go doooooooown
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February 09, 2015, 03:33:22 PM
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an exchange no one has heard of has 500 million of the 3 billion dollar market cap

someone ban the troll / scamming OP for posting this shit

Agreed, OP should be banned for repeatedly trying to spread untrue FUD.

Are you stupid? Can you even read? Do you think all those articles are made up? Did the bitcoin bearmarket destroy your brain, or are you just another typical bull scammer who is trying to discredit everyone and everything telling the truth?

Can you even read, Fonzi? Are you stupid, or a liar?
It was a Ponzi, why isn't that fact in your thread title?


He likes to bend the facts. 
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February 09, 2015, 04:18:02 PM
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HOLY SHIT! IT´S CRASHING. IT LOOKS LIKE MOST OF THE CHINESE HAVE FINALLY READ THE NEWS! IT`S LOOKING TERRIBLE!

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February 09, 2015, 04:46:43 PM
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HOLY SHIT! IT´S CRASHING. IT LOOKS LIKE MOST OF THE CHINESE HAVE FINALLY READ THE NEWS! IT`S LOOKING TERRIBLE!

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February 09, 2015, 05:05:27 PM
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This is the article of coindesk :

"Reports are emerging from Hong Kong that local bitcoin exchange MyCoin has shut its doors, taking with it possibly as much as HK$3bn ($386.9m) in investor funds.

If true, the supposed losses are a staggering amount, although this estimate is based on the company's own earlier claims that it served 3,000 clients who had invested HK$1m ($12,890) each."



http://www.coindesk.com/hong-kong-exchange-mycoin-disappears-387m-reports-claim/

So it really happened ?
China are good in banning stuff (Google , Gmail etc ...) , now they will block the whole Bitcoin and R.I.P Price , It will probably affect a lot on Bitcoin price since they have a lot of users there (I guess .. since they 1 billion citizens) Shocked

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February 09, 2015, 05:07:46 PM
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This is the article of coindesk :

"Reports are emerging from Hong Kong that local bitcoin exchange MyCoin has shut its doors, taking with it possibly as much as HK$3bn ($386.9m) in investor funds.

If true, the supposed losses are a staggering amount, although this estimate is based on the company's own earlier claims that it served 3,000 clients who had invested HK$1m ($12,890) each."



http://www.coindesk.com/hong-kong-exchange-mycoin-disappears-387m-reports-claim/

So it really happened ?
China are good in banning stuff (Google , Gmail etc ...) , now they will block the whole Bitcoin and R.I.P Price , It will probably affect a lot on Bitcoin price since they have a lot of users there (I guess .. since they 1 billion citizens) Shocked

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I don't know , for the moment the price is stable. As you see from the various charts:

- https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/huobi/btccny
- https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btcchina/btccny
- https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/okcoin/btccny

Only a little dump.
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