Bitcoin Forum
May 29, 2024, 11:27:50 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: How will decentralised exchanges work?  (Read 786 times)
cafucafucafu (OP)
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 812
Merit: 509



View Profile
February 09, 2015, 01:17:15 PM
 #1

Will they need their own blockchain? Where do you send the fiat to? Who keeps the coins?

AtheistAKASaneBrain
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 770
Merit: 509


View Profile
February 09, 2015, 02:24:33 PM
 #2

Will they need their own blockchain? Where do you send the fiat to? Who keeps the coins?

I aint got no idea how decentralized exchanges work, so im also interested. I add to the question: How do you know you aren't buying from the feds? (honeypot). It kinda defeats the purpose.
redsn0w
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1778
Merit: 1042


#Free market


View Profile
February 09, 2015, 02:27:12 PM
 #3

Will they need their own blockchain? Where do you send the fiat to? Who keeps the coins?

No, it is the same bitcoin blockchain. If you want more info this is the official thread of bitsquare : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=647457
kodtycoon
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1568
Merit: 1002



View Profile
February 09, 2015, 02:29:15 PM
 #4

this is the best explanation of one iv seen in a while.

pre-requisites:

- both exchanging currencies with multisig support.

- one of them with smart contract support/business rules.

result:

https://forum.nemcoin.com/technical-discussion/possible-idea-for-mostly-trustless-third-party-exchange/

             ▄▄██████▄
         ▄▄████████████
   ▄▄█████████▀▀   ▀████
 ▄███████████▄      ████
████▀   ▀▀██████▄▄▄████
████      ▄███████████▄
▀████▄▄▄████████▀▀▀████▄
 ▀███████████▀      ████
 ████▀▀▀██████▄▄   ▄███▀
████      ▀███████████▀
████▄   ▄▄█████████▀▀
 ████████████▀▀
  ▀██████▀▀
█████████████████

     ███

██████████

     ██████

███████████

     ███████████████

███████████████████
█████████████████

███   

██████████

██████   

███████████

███████████████   

███████████████████
▄█████████████████████████▄
███████████████████████████
███████████████████████████
██████▀███████▀   ▀▀▀▄█████
█████▌  ▀▀███▌       ▄█████

████▀               █████
█████▄              ███████
██████▄            ████████
███████▄▄        ▄█████████
█████▄▄       ▄████████████
███████████████████████████
███████████████████████████
▀█████████████████████████▀
▄█████████████████████████▄
███████████████████████████
███████████████████████████
██████████████████▀▀███████
█████████████▀▀▀    ███████

███████▀▀▀   ▄▀   ███████
█████▄     ▄█▀     ████████
████████▄ █▀      █████████
█████████▌▐       █████████
██████████ ▄██▄  ██████████
████████████████▄██████████
███████████████████████████
▀█████████████████████████▀
▄█████████████████████████▄
███████████████████████████
███████████████████████████
███████▀           ▀███████
██████  ▄██▀▀▀▀▀█▀▄  ██████

█████  █▀  ▄▄▄  ▀█  █████
██████  █  █████  █  ██████
██████  █▄  ▀▀▀  ▄█  ██████
██████  ▀██▄▄▄▄▄██▀  ██████
███████▄           ▄███████
███████████████████████████
███████████████████████████
▀█████████████████████████▀
▄█████████████████████████▄
███████████████████████████
███████████████████████████
██████████▀█████▀██████████
███████▀  ▀     ▀  ▀███████

█████▌             ▐█████
██████    ██   ██    ██████
█████▌    ▀▀   ▀▀    ▐█████
██████▄  ▄▄▄   ▄▄▄  ▄██████
████████▄▄███████▄▄████████
███████████████████████████
███████████████████████████
▀█████████████████████████▀
R2D221
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 658
Merit: 500



View Profile
February 09, 2015, 03:00:20 PM
 #5

- both exchanging currencies with multisig support.

I want to exchange my pesos. How would I do that if pesos don't support multisig?

An economy based on endless growth is unsustainable.
redsn0w
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1778
Merit: 1042


#Free market


View Profile
February 09, 2015, 03:01:17 PM
 #6

- both exchanging currencies with multisig support.

I want to exchange my pesos. How would I do that if pesos don't support multisig?

If you use bitsquare you can exchange pesos for bitcoin , have you seen the video of how it works ?
R2D221
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 658
Merit: 500



View Profile
February 09, 2015, 03:02:13 PM
 #7

- both exchanging currencies with multisig support.

I want to exchange my pesos. How would I do that if pesos don't support multisig?

If you use bitsquare you can exchange pesos for bitcoin , have you seen the video of how it works ?

Yes. I was talking about kodtycoon's link.

An economy based on endless growth is unsustainable.
redsn0w
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1778
Merit: 1042


#Free market


View Profile
February 09, 2015, 03:05:14 PM
 #8

- both exchanging currencies with multisig support.

I want to exchange my pesos. How would I do that if pesos don't support multisig?

If you use bitsquare you can exchange pesos for bitcoin , have you seen the video of how it works ?

Yes. I was talking about kodtycoon's link.

Oh sorry, the "kodtycoon's method" uses greenAddress as webWallet (with multiSign + 2FA + istant confirm) and also NTE. However, as you told pesos doesn't support multisign  Cheesy.
GermanGiant
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 784
Merit: 500



View Profile
February 09, 2015, 03:06:32 PM
Last edit: February 09, 2015, 07:23:01 PM by GermanGiant
 #9

Will they need their own blockchain? Where do you send the fiat to? Who keeps the coins?

Decentralized exchanges rely on a Supreme Court type Human Panel for ultimate dispute resolution, which requires trust. Anything that is handling FIAT can not be as trustless as bitcoin network.

p.s. I have checked both bitsquare.io & OpenBazaar. None of them can programmatically address the arbitrator dependency issue.
thejaytiesto
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1358
Merit: 1014


View Profile
February 09, 2015, 03:23:08 PM
 #10

The only way to know if you are buying from soneone legitimate is... well there's no damn way, unless you require that both of you show your ID's which suck.
R2D221
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 658
Merit: 500



View Profile
February 09, 2015, 03:24:36 PM
 #11

The only way to know if you are buying from soneone legitimate is... well there's no damn way, unless you require that both of you show your ID's which suck.

Even then, IDs can be faked.

An economy based on endless growth is unsustainable.
Evolvo
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 528
Merit: 500


Tokens That Store Virtual Energy


View Profile WWW
February 09, 2015, 06:52:34 PM
 #12

Decentralized exchanges reply on a Supreme Court type Human Panel for ultimate dispute resolution, which requires trust.

p.s. I have checked both bitsquare.io & OpenBazaar. None of them can programmatically address the arbitrator dependency issue.

Only BitShares resolves this issue and is counterparty-risk free when trading the following assets:

bitcoins, US Dollars, Euros, Chinese Yuan, and solid gold

https://bitshares.org/get-started

The latest client software revision was released 3 days ago.
 

this!

Кpиптoвaлютный фoнд "Pyбyc" - https://rubus.fund/partner/273
R2D221
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 658
Merit: 500



View Profile
February 09, 2015, 07:22:19 PM
 #13

Decentralized exchanges reply on a Supreme Court type Human Panel for ultimate dispute resolution, which requires trust.

p.s. I have checked both bitsquare.io & OpenBazaar. None of them can programmatically address the arbitrator dependency issue.

Only BitShares resolves this issue and is counterparty-risk free when trading the following assets:

bitcoins, US Dollars, Euros, Chinese Yuan, and solid gold

https://bitshares.org/get-started

The latest client software revision was released 3 days ago.
 

What about Mexican Peso?

An economy based on endless growth is unsustainable.
GermanGiant
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 784
Merit: 500



View Profile
February 09, 2015, 07:50:06 PM
Last edit: February 09, 2015, 08:15:19 PM by GermanGiant
 #14

Decentralized exchanges rely on a Supreme Court type Human Panel for ultimate dispute resolution, which requires trust.

p.s. I have checked both bitsquare.io & OpenBazaar. None of them can programmatically address the arbitrator dependency issue.

Only BitShares resolves this issue and is counterparty-risk free when trading the following assets:

bitcoins, US Dollars, Euros, Chinese Yuan, and solid gold

https://bitshares.org/get-started

The latest client software revision was released 3 days ago.
 

It seems it is relying on fixed value assets such as bitUSD. But, bitUSD is ultimately getting traded on centralized exchanges like ShapeShift.
juicyjuice87
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 490
Merit: 250



View Profile
February 09, 2015, 10:49:36 PM
 #15

Bloody BitsharesX and their spamming
cellard
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1372
Merit: 1252


View Profile
February 09, 2015, 11:28:10 PM
 #16

The only way to know if you are buying from soneone legitimate is... well there's no damn way, unless you require that both of you show your ID's which suck.

Even then, IDs can be faked.
Exactly, I just said this in the other thread.

I see literally 0 solutions to this. We can't just magically beat law and order.
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!