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March 05, 2015, 11:53:46 AM |
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i was getting in to it last year, but i realized that it wasn't that good, fee are high and require documents to do anything, also not very euro friendly
I see what you mean not euro friendly wish they would hurry up and implement the euro's, oh they already do Can you explain why they are not friendly please? Also what exchange have you gone to that require 'no documents' to do anything? Thanks
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March 05, 2015, 12:07:44 PM Last edit: March 05, 2015, 01:36:58 PM by tee-rex |
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I think it's odd that most Bitcoin exchange sites end up getting shut down for one reason or another, but BTC-e, the one that seems the least reliable and has owners that have remained anonymous, has been the site that has outlasted all the others. What do you think about BTC-e? Who do you think runs it? "This lack of transparency has created confusion over who exactly is behind the exchange – the owners apparently wish to remain anonymous, using a long chain of banks and intermediaries to process deposits and withdrawals." - http://www.coindesk.com/btc-e-exchange-banking-issues/I think it's possible that BTC-e is run by the Russian government. if so, why did they register it in Bulgaria? This is not to be understood that they should have registered the exchange in Russia, but Bulgaria is obviously not the best option available to register an exchange in if you happened to be a Russian government (actually far from it).
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March 05, 2015, 03:40:08 PM Last edit: March 05, 2015, 08:15:08 PM by Lorenzo |
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They've been around since 2011 despite many other exchanges having collapsed since then. I like them and I used to have an account with them until I realized it would be easier for me to just use LocalBitcoins instead. Their operators prefer to be anonymous which is a bit of a double edged sword. On the plus side, it means that it will be more difficult for them and their site to be targeted by malicious governments who might seek to shut them down. Downside is that the operators could easily run away with their customers' funds and get away with it too (although as someone else here pointed out, just because a business has a known address its operators are known doesn't mean that it won't end up being a scam or otherwise collapse).
Many people don't know this but BTC-e was hacked in 2012. However, they were able to reimburse all of the stolen bitcoins from their own pocket. They handled the situation very well which was something really rare back then, and the fact that they're still going strong today deserves some credit IMHO.
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March 06, 2015, 04:22:03 AM |
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I think it's odd that most Bitcoin exchange sites end up getting shut down for one reason or another, but BTC-e, the one that seems the least reliable and has owners that have remained anonymous, has been the site that has outlasted all the others. What do you think about BTC-e? Who do you think runs it? "This lack of transparency has created confusion over who exactly is behind the exchange – the owners apparently wish to remain anonymous, using a long chain of banks and intermediaries to process deposits and withdrawals." - http://www.coindesk.com/btc-e-exchange-banking-issues/I think it's possible that BTC-e is run by the Russian government. if so, why did they register it in Bulgaria? This is not to be understood that they should have registered the exchange in Russia, but Bulgaria is obviously not the best option available to register an exchange in if you happened to be a Russian government (actually far from it). I took it since BTC-e is a Russian corporation they were registered in Russia. What disadvantages and advantages are there to registering a Bitcoin exchange in Bulgaria rather than Russia or any other place? I think it's fully possible certain governments are heavily involved with Bitcoin because their own economy is struggling. It's also possible several country's are experimenting with it.
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tee-rex
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March 06, 2015, 05:53:02 AM |
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I think it's odd that most Bitcoin exchange sites end up getting shut down for one reason or another, but BTC-e, the one that seems the least reliable and has owners that have remained anonymous, has been the site that has outlasted all the others. What do you think about BTC-e? Who do you think runs it? "This lack of transparency has created confusion over who exactly is behind the exchange – the owners apparently wish to remain anonymous, using a long chain of banks and intermediaries to process deposits and withdrawals." - http://www.coindesk.com/btc-e-exchange-banking-issues/I think it's possible that BTC-e is run by the Russian government. if so, why did they register it in Bulgaria? This is not to be understood that they should have registered the exchange in Russia, but Bulgaria is obviously not the best option available to register an exchange in if you happened to be a Russian government (actually far from it). I took it since BTC-e is a Russian corporation they were registered in Russia. What disadvantages and advantages are there to registering a Bitcoin exchange in Bulgaria rather than Russia or any other place? Legal entities are not allowed to deal with Bitcoin in Russia. If the exchange were set up by the Russian government, it would most likely be used to blackmail Russia once its ownership becomes known (look what happened to the South Stream gas pipeline project). Why take such risks? I think it's fully possible certain governments are heavily involved with Bitcoin because their own economy is struggling. It's also possible several country's are experimenting with it.
The size of the Russian economy and that of Bitcoin are simply incomparable.
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March 06, 2015, 06:19:21 AM |
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No. Using an intermediary is smart, a) they can change it easier b) they don't have to do AML/KYC themselves, the financial provider does it indepentently, so btc-e does not store your personal info, the intermediary on the other hand is not a bitcoin exchange so it will not get hacked so your info is safer.
Look at other exchanges, their banks pressure them or close their accounts.
Also their fees are not high, Nrcewker, other exchanges are much more expensive than 0.2%
I not mean trading fee. it's fiat withdraw / deposit fee https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=695082.0
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March 06, 2015, 01:22:34 PM Last edit: March 07, 2015, 08:39:57 PM by Amph |
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i was getting in to it last year, but i realized that it wasn't that good, fee are high and require documents to do anything, also not very euro friendly
I see what you mean not euro friendly wish they would hurry up and implement the euro's, oh they already do Can you explain why they are not friendly please? Also what exchange have you gone to that require 'no documents' to do anything? Thanks for example fee is too high(1%) for euro and minimum withdrawal too(500euro) kraken is miles ahead(basically no fee and minimum withdrawal is 50 euro), and i'm using it like no tomorrow also kraken for me is very fast, sepa are resolved in less than a day some time(my best is 8 hours, i doubt any other exchange can do that)
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March 07, 2015, 09:16:10 AM |
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Minimum fee = 100 EUR ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) for example fee is too high(1%) for euro and minimum also(500euro)
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March 07, 2015, 04:27:58 PM |
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My impression? When I think of btc-e, all I think of is the trollbox located on the right hand side...
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March 09, 2015, 02:03:58 AM |
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March 09, 2015, 02:09:31 AM |
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I have used btc-e it is a pretty good and reliable site no complaints.
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March 09, 2015, 09:27:00 PM |
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There were cases of theft/hack, and they covered all losses on their loss, and i remained as their user til today. It sure is funky that the owner wants to remain anonnymous, but if they do as they promised, things will become more transperant regarding them for sure:
Looking at how much of a bully Uncle Sam is, this is not funky at all but very reasonable. i am pretty sure Kim Dotcom wishes he had operated his site anonymously, too. He never set foot in the US, but the bastards attack him across the globe... This is not much different from North Korea kidnapping people from Japan, just that Uncle Sam does it on a much grander scale. ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif)
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March 10, 2015, 01:00:37 AM |
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I think it's odd that most Bitcoin exchange sites end up getting shut down for one reason or another, but BTC-e, the one that seems the least reliable and has owners that have remained anonymous, has been the site that has outlasted all the others. What do you think about BTC-e? Who do you think runs it? "This lack of transparency has created confusion over who exactly is behind the exchange – the owners apparently wish to remain anonymous, using a long chain of banks and intermediaries to process deposits and withdrawals." - http://www.coindesk.com/btc-e-exchange-banking-issues/I think it's possible that BTC-e is run by the Russian government. if so, why did they register it in Bulgaria? This is not to be understood that they should have registered the exchange in Russia, but Bulgaria is obviously not the best option available to register an exchange in if you happened to be a Russian government (actually far from it). I took it since BTC-e is a Russian corporation they were registered in Russia. What disadvantages and advantages are there to registering a Bitcoin exchange in Bulgaria rather than Russia or any other place? Legal entities are not allowed to deal with Bitcoin in Russia. If the exchange were set up by the Russian government, it would most likely be used to blackmail Russia once its ownership becomes known (look what happened to the South Stream gas pipeline project). Why take such risks? I think it's fully possible certain governments are heavily involved with Bitcoin because their own economy is struggling. It's also possible several country's are experimenting with it.
The size of the Russian economy and that of Bitcoin are simply incomparable. I don't think common law would apply to governments dealing in Bitcoin. That would probably be the whole point of staying anonymous or unknown altogether as well as taking the steps necessary to stay incognito.
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March 10, 2015, 04:04:53 AM |
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BTC-E has been just about the most reliable exchange out there. Having lost money to Jon Montroll's bitfunder scam, and BTC at Gox, and other exchanges I have used either hacked or 'hacked', I don't have any complaints against BTC-E.
It being located where it is is also a BIG positive, not a negative. Russia and Belarus etc are some of the few areas that are not under complete control of the American banking empire/government.
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March 10, 2015, 04:08:36 AM |
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Best exchange imo
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March 10, 2015, 12:50:07 PM |
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Lately I'm getting an error message when I attempt to withdraw BTC from btc-e. It says "Denied for this account. Contact support." So, I did.
They want: 1) transaction history (at least the last three (3) transactions) 2) the methods of deposit 3) the history of IP entries; and 4) the screenshot of the payment system I used to make a deposit to my account
So how to get the history of IP entries on btc-e?
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