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February 11, 2015, 12:51:33 PM
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Which is better in terms of privacy dark coin or darkwallet? Which is harder to trace?
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February 11, 2015, 01:19:45 PM
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you might get a better answer if you posted this in the darkcoin threads or forum.
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February 11, 2015, 01:19:47 PM
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https://darkcointalk.org/threads/darkcoin-vs-darkwallet.693/

"So here's our advantages vs dark wallet:

1.) We're decentralized. The clients automatically discover all masternodes and will use those
2.) Everyone will use DarkSend by default. The problem with a product you must setup like this is you'll have far fewer legitimate users to mix with.
3.) Masternodes create a new type of investment opportunity within our ecosystem much like mining. The result? We get a ton of super high quality full nodes, anonymity and happy investors.
4.) If they're accepting inputs and outputs separately they can be shut down simply by a user offering an input, but refusing to send the output. If they're accepting inputs and outputs together, it's not anonymous and it MUST be decentralized to spread the knowledge of who did what to keep anonymity. My guess is they're taking inputs and outputs separately and banning inputs that do this. In that case you could attack it by using another mixing service to get fresh inputs."
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February 11, 2015, 02:25:22 PM
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I think Monero is superior anonymous technology than darkcoin and darkwallet.
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February 11, 2015, 02:32:09 PM
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I think Monero is superior anonymous technology than darkcoin and darkwallet.
THere are way better coins in this matter of anonymity darkcoin seems more pseudo-anonymous to me.

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February 12, 2015, 10:47:00 AM
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I haven't heard of monero to be honest. I'd rather work with bitcoin or an alt coin which is widely traded. With bitcoin I can find the darkwallet with an alt coin darkcoin seems like a good contender, but for privacy which one is the best out of these two for un-traceability (or least traceability).

If any more suggestions on another wallet or alt coin than please suggest a working one and widely used one as i am a newbie i'd rather use something that has been tested by many users (I know darkwallet is still in alpha but i like what it is giving)
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February 12, 2015, 11:14:58 AM
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Which is better in terms of privacy dark coin or darkwallet? Which is harder to trace?

I heard of Darkcoin which is an Alternative coin as far as I know and it's supposed to be more annonymus then Bitcoin .
But what is that Dark wallet that you are talking about , I googled a little bit and found out that it's a Bitcoin wallet ? but why it's not on the Bitcoin.org website yet ?

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February 12, 2015, 11:32:34 AM
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I read that darkcoin is actually a lot harder to track than darkwallet as darkwallet only mixes coins and doesn't make it impossible to track.

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February 12, 2015, 11:47:37 AM
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I read that darkcoin is actually a lot harder to track than darkwallet as darkwallet only mixes coins and doesn't make it impossible to track.

I'm supposed to be the newbie lol what darkwallet is supposed to do is coinjoin and recieve from stealth address (changing address). It uses the bitcoin and transacts upon the bitcoin chain.

Darkcoin is an alt coin and uses internal mixing by the use of its nodes (or something, its too complex for me to understand yet) but the mixing is supposed to be superior than that of coinjoin

I still think these aren't anonymous (darkwallet probably 60% and darkcoin probably 80%).

Is there anything better (I'm waiting for zerocoin release), but is there any other wallet or good alt coin which has a high number of exchanging platforms?
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February 12, 2015, 12:28:16 PM
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Even though darkcoin may be more secure, it may crash any moment since its very volatile as an altcoin. As long as you use darkwallet or any other mixing service and do not link them together by spending both of them in a single transaction or send or receive Bitcoin between both of the wallet.

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February 12, 2015, 12:43:44 PM
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Sorry I don't understand what you mean by not spending them together or sending to same wallets? I want to send from wallet A to my wallet B (change address everytime). Is there a way to do this securely with min traceability
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February 12, 2015, 03:59:28 PM
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Dark wallet seems the better option, simply because few markets accept darkcoins.
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February 13, 2015, 10:43:27 AM
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I heard of Darkcoin which is an Alternative coin as far as I know and it's supposed to be more annonymus then Bitcoin .
But what is that Dark wallet that you are talking about , I googled a little bit and found out that it's a Bitcoin wallet ? but why it's not on the Bitcoin.org website yet ?

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Yes, Dark Wallet is a bitcoin wallet. It isn't listed in Bitcoin.org because it is still in Beta phase.

Sorry I don't understand what you mean by not spending them together or sending to same wallets? I want to send from wallet A to my wallet B (change address everytime). Is there a way to do this securely with min traceability

You can use Dark Wallet or mixing services like Bitmixer.

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February 14, 2015, 08:47:53 PM
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Monero shits on the rest of anonymous options.
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February 15, 2015, 04:50:07 AM
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Sorry I don't understand what you mean by not spending them together or sending to same wallets? I want to send from wallet A to my wallet B (change address everytime). Is there a way to do this securely with min traceability
In every transaction there's a input. You can spend two wallets in one transaction together. If you accidentally do that, your first address will be tied to the other one and people will know that both of them are controlled by the same owner. Send the change to a mixer for example, [INPUT A] -> [OUTPUT A (The person you want to pay to]) [OUTPUT B(The change) sent to the address you generated using a mixer] the mixer can then send the change to a seperate new address.

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February 15, 2015, 05:08:40 AM
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In every transaction there's a input. You can spend two wallets in one transaction together. If you accidentally do that, your first address will be tied to the other one and people will know that both of them are controlled by the same owner. Send the change to a mixer for example, [INPUT A] -> [OUTPUT A (The person you want to pay to]) [OUTPUT B(The change) sent to the address you generated using a mixer] the mixer can then send the change to a seperate new address.

i.e., don't send from 2 addresses in 1 transaction. Instead, send from one address, then from another and so on.

@ranochigo: There is also other possibilty, create an umsigned TX whicb have UTXOs from two addresses, one is controlled by the person who sign and the other is controlled by friend/partner. It doesn't he owns both. This is very rare though.

   -MZ

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