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February 11, 2015, 11:13:19 PM
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President Barack Obama has said the reality of “American leadership” at times entails “twisting the arms” of states which “don’t do what we need them to do,” and that the US relied on its military strength and other leverage to achieve its goals.

In a broad-ranging interview with Vox, which Obama himself described as a venue "for the brainiac-nerd types," the US president both denied the efficacy of a purely “realist” foreign policy but also arguing that at times the US, which has a defense budget that exceeds the next 10 countries combined, needed to rely on its military muscle and other levers of power.

Lauding the rule-based system to emerge in the post-World War II era, Obama admitted it wasn’t perfect, but argued “the UN, the IMF, and a whole host of treaties and rules and norms that were established really helped to stabilize the world in ways that it wouldn't otherwise be.”

He argued, however, that the efficacy of this idealistic, Wilsonian, rule-based system was severely tested by the fact that “there are bad people out there who are trying to do us harm.”

In the president’s view, the reality of those threats has compelled the US to have “the strongest military in the world.” Obama further says that “we occasionally have to twist the arms of countries that wouldn't do what we need them to do if it weren't for the various economic or diplomatic or, in some cases, military leverage that we had — if we didn't have that dose of realism, we wouldn't get anything done, either.”

'We occasionally have to twist the arms of countries that wouldn't do what we need them to do'
Obama argues that the US doesn’t have “military solutions” to all the challenges in the modern world, though he goes on to add that “we don’t have a peer” in terms of states that could attack or provoke the United States.

“The closest we have, obviously, is Russia, with its nuclear arsenal, but generally speaking they can't project the way we can around the world. China can't, either. We spend more on our military than the next 10 countries combined,” he said.

Within this context, Obama said that “disorder” stemming from “failed states” and “asymmetric threats from terrorist organizations” were the biggest challenges facing the international community today.

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February 12, 2015, 12:43:51 AM
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0bama, arm twister in chief? Yep! Sounds about right

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February 12, 2015, 11:10:34 AM
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Sounds like Obama's been sending out his economic hitmen Smiley

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February 12, 2015, 06:48:16 PM
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Chef, again you are naive. You think Obama is the first US President to do this? No, it's a tactic of every President, every government, everyone with power and lacking of ethics high enough to do the right thing, the right way.

Don't be so shocked, you're worse than the mainstream media with your hype threads...

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February 12, 2015, 09:48:27 PM
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Chef, again you are naive. You think Obama is the first US President to do this? No, it's a tactic of every President, every government, everyone with power and lacking of ethics high enough to do the right thing, the right way.

Don't be so shocked, you're worse than the mainstream media with your hype threads...

Just because other presidents have done it doesn't make it acceptable that Obama does. Wasn't he supposed to know better? He sure promised he did during his campaigns, all that talk about leading with diplomacy and embracing the international community, not subjecting American values (not the mention the military) on unwilling populations, etc. The US has been an international bully since, well basically the Monroe Doctrine, but on a global scale since 1945. But Obama promised we would be better, it's one of the things he highlighted to differentiate himself from an unpopular Bush, along with his his warnings that McCain would follow in Bush's footsteps. It's worth remembering that in this age of American hegemony, liberals are no different than conservatives when it comes to bullying foreign nations to advance our nationalistic interests.

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February 13, 2015, 12:14:34 AM
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Obama hasn't been doing much arm twisting, on the contrary he's more of a conformist. He's systematically releasing muslim terrorists, while ISIS is shooting their prisoners in the head. I'd like to see him twist an arm of a Saudi sheikh, who finances those Syrian murderers. I'm sure we'd all have a good laugh.


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February 13, 2015, 12:47:31 AM
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Obama hasn't been doing much arm twisting, on the contrary he's more of a conformist. He's systematically releasing muslim terrorists, while ISIS is shooting their prisoners in the head. I'd like to see him twist an arm of a Saudi sheikh, who finances those Syrian murderers. I'm sure we'd all have a good laugh.



Øbama's lethal arm twisting result...


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February 13, 2015, 12:54:48 AM
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He is just stating the obvious.  Grin
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