Is it worth building this rig?

[TGJJ]

So I am able to build a rig for £251.31 / $388.87 to the following specs:

80 GB HDD, 1 GB RAM, 2.8Ghz CPU, 3 ATI Radeon HD5830 Graphics Cards and accessories.

Do you think I will be able to turn a profit before the release of stuff from BFL and also the drop from 50 BTC to 25 BTC? Or any profit in general? Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated!

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[zvs]

So I am able to build a rig for £251.31 / $388.87 to the following specs:

80 GB HDD, 1 GB RAM, 2.8Ghz CPU, 3 ATI Radeon HD5830 Graphics Cards and accessories.

Do you think I will be able to turn a profit before the release of stuff from BFL and also the drop from 50 BTC to 25 BTC? Or any profit in general? Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated!

that would depend on the price of your electricity

if it's less than .10/kwh, you probably could (including the system as an asset)

you should be able to put something together for less than that, though..  you can run ubuntu off a USB stick, you can buy used single core CPU's off of eBay for $1, etc

[TGJJ]

Running Ubuntu of a USB stick is a good shout. That will reduce the price to £241.31 / $373.50.

[kmsalex]

Running Ubuntu of a USB stick is a good shout. That will reduce the price to £241.31 / $373.50.

I"m pretty shore hes paying more then $10 for that 80GB HDD.

[TGJJ]

Running Ubuntu of a USB stick is a good shout. That will reduce the price to £241.31 / $373.50.

I"m pretty shore hes paying more then $10 for that 80GB HDD.

These are current prices of each item:


700W PSU 120mm Red Fan Power Supply                                          £15.74  $24.36
1GB RAM DDR2                                                                           £4.99    $7.72
INTEL SL8H9 CELERON D - 2.8GHz 1MB 533MHz LGA775 PROCESSOR   £2.88    $4.46
4pin Connector PC Desktop CPU LGA775 Cooler Cooling Fan                   £2.99    $4.63
3x Sapphire ATI Radeon HD5830 Graphics Cards                                   £180.00 $278.60
Computer Case                                                                           £17.88   $27.67
Motherboard                                                                           £16.83   $26.05
   
Total Cost:                                                                                   £241.31  $373.50.

[zvs]

Running Ubuntu of a USB stick is a good shout. That will reduce the price to £241.31 / $373.50.

I"m pretty shore hes paying more then $10 for that 80GB HDD.

These are current prices of each item:


700W PSU 120mm Red Fan   £15.74
1GB RAM DDR2   £4.99
INTEL SL8H9 CELERON D - 2.8GHz 1MB 533MHz LGA775 PROCESSOR   £2.88
4pin Connector PC Desktop CPU LGA775 Cooler Cooling Fan   £2.99
3x Sapphire ATI Radeon HD5830 Graphics Cards   £180.00
Computer Case   £17.88
Motherboard   £16.83
   
Total Cost:   £241.31

oh, you'd definitely want to avoid the hard drive then with a generic 700W PSU running 3 5830's, that's cutting it pretty tight.  you'd also want to turn off the onboard audio and underclock the processor and such.   

that price is somewhat high on the 5830's.  ~$280 for 3...   i guess if they're brand new in box sapphire extremes or something..  not sure if there are any UK sellers that have any on ebay right now, but they regularly sell for around $80 there (and $75 in the marketplace here)

hmm, what motherboard is that that can run 3 cards for $26?   i'm shopping around for some myself

[TGJJ]

Second hand Asus S775 nForce 780i DDR2 ATX Audio Lan

[kmsalex]

If your looking for a system that will be worth something as a home server.... or somthing you can re-sell you might be interested in one of these.

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157324&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-Branding-_-na-_-na&AID=10440554&PID=4897915


Power usage on par with a netbook... well untill you stick a gpu in there XP has a AMD "APU" which is there intergarted graphics which has so far been out performing intel intergrated by a long shot, you might even get a few MH/S out of it.

Just think about it, what are you gonna do with this celeron in 2 years?

[TGJJ]

Graphics cards seem to be cheaper in USA than over in the UK. Maybe I'm just looking at a bad time.

[zvs]

If your looking for a system that will be worth something as a home server.... or somthing you can re-sell you might be interested in one of these.

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157324&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-Branding-_-na-_-na&AID=10440554&PID=4897915


Power usage on par with a netbook... well untill you stick a gpu in there XP has a AMD "APU" which is there intergarted graphics which has so far been out performing intel intergrated by a long shot, you might even get a few MH/S out of it.

Just think about it, what are you gonna do with this celeron in 2 years?

if it's just for mining there's no reason to have an expensive CPU, though... it'll just decrease in value quicker...  that Celeron cant go below $0, at least

i suspect the only things worth reselling would be the 3 5830's and the PSU

the prices you listed are pretty good except for the 5830's, as long as that PSU isn't total junk.  

well, the 5830 prices aren't horrible, i guess.  more listings to choose from here in the states, can cherry pick 'em.  

i think you could make a profit, but i'm not sure if it'd be worth the effort... as the profit would probably be realized when you resell the 5830's and PSU  (unless you have really cheap elec, mine is 8c/kwh)

[kmsalex]

If your looking for a system that will be worth something as a home server.... or somthing you can re-sell you might be interested in one of these.

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157324&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-Branding-_-na-_-na&AID=10440554&PID=4897915


Power usage on par with a netbook... well untill you stick a gpu in there XP has a AMD "APU" which is there intergarted graphics which has so far been out performing intel intergrated by a long shot, you might even get a few MH/S out of it.

Just think about it, what are you gonna do with this celeron in 2 years?

if it's just for mining there's no reason to have an expensive CPU, though... it'll just decrease in value quicker...  that Celeron cant go below $0, at least

i suspect the only things worth reselling would be the 3 5830's and the PSU

the prices you listed are pretty good except for the 5830's, as long as that PSU isn't total junk.  

well, the 5830 prices aren't horrible, i guess.  more listings to choose from here in the states, can cherry pick 'em.  

i think you could make a profit, but i'm not sure if it'd be worth the effort... as the profit would probably be realized when you resell the 5830's and PSU  (unless you have really cheap elec, mine is 8c/kwh)

well its certinly not an expencive CPU my point was in a year the hole rig is just gonna be sitting there, may as well have a banging home theater pc, home server/nas, or just have it as an extra pc for something.

I could never bring my self to put to gether something in know i wouldn't have much use for in a year, so just my thoughts.


P.S. if you didn't bother to check the link out its not just a CPU its an intergrated MOB/APU

[TGJJ]

If your looking for a system that will be worth something as a home server.... or somthing you can re-sell you might be interested in one of these.

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157324&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-Branding-_-na-_-na&AID=10440554&PID=4897915


Power usage on par with a netbook... well untill you stick a gpu in there XP has a AMD "APU" which is there intergarted graphics which has so far been out performing intel intergrated by a long shot, you might even get a few MH/S out of it.

Just think about it, what are you gonna do with this celeron in 2 years?

if it's just for mining there's no reason to have an expensive CPU, though... it'll just decrease in value quicker...  that Celeron cant go below $0, at least

i suspect the only things worth reselling would be the 3 5830's and the PSU

the prices you listed are pretty good except for the 5830's, as long as that PSU isn't total junk.  

well, the 5830 prices aren't horrible, i guess.  more listings to choose from here in the states, can cherry pick 'em.  

i think you could make a profit, but i'm not sure if it'd be worth the effort... as the profit would probably be realized when you resell the 5830's and PSU  (unless you have really cheap elec, mine is 8c/kwh)

well its certinly not an expencive CPU my point was in a year the hole rig is just gonna be sitting there, may as well have a banging home theater pc, home server/nas, or just have it as an extra pc for something.

I could never bring my self to put to gether something in know i wouldn't have much use for in a year, so just my thoughts.


P.S. if you didn't bother to check the link out its not just a CPU its an intergrated MOB/APU

I see what you mean about just having it sit there doing nothing but mining, but I don't really need any sort of additional media hub. I am not sure if I am blind, but I couldn't see how many graphics cards that thing could take?

[kmsalex]

If your looking for a system that will be worth something as a home server.... or somthing you can re-sell you might be interested in one of these.

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157324&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-Branding-_-na-_-na&AID=10440554&PID=4897915


Power usage on par with a netbook... well untill you stick a gpu in there XP has a AMD "APU" which is there intergarted graphics which has so far been out performing intel intergrated by a long shot, you might even get a few MH/S out of it.

Just think about it, what are you gonna do with this celeron in 2 years?

if it's just for mining there's no reason to have an expensive CPU, though... it'll just decrease in value quicker...  that Celeron cant go below $0, at least

i suspect the only things worth reselling would be the 3 5830's and the PSU

the prices you listed are pretty good except for the 5830's, as long as that PSU isn't total junk. 

well, the 5830 prices aren't horrible, i guess.  more listings to choose from here in the states, can cherry pick 'em. 

i think you could make a profit, but i'm not sure if it'd be worth the effort... as the profit would probably be realized when you resell the 5830's and PSU  (unless you have really cheap elec, mine is 8c/kwh)

well its certinly not an expencive CPU my point was in a year the hole rig is just gonna be sitting there, may as well have a banging home theater pc, home server/nas, or just have it as an extra pc for something.

I could never bring my self to put to gether something in know i wouldn't have much use for in a year, so just my thoughts.


P.S. if you didn't bother to check the link out its not just a CPU its an intergrated MOB/APU

I see what you mean about just having it sit there doing nothing but mining, but I don't really need any sort of additional media hub. I am not sure if I am blind, but I couldn't see how many graphics cards that thing could take?

1 pci-e 2.0, 1 card.

[LoupGaroux]

Watch the APU's with mining, unless you are really comfortable tweaking things. There can be issues with conflict with discrete GPU's when they meet your APU.

You will probably not want to consider this a home theater machine- the noise and the heat it will kick off will spoil movie night. Although your heating bill will be reduced in winter...

[kmsalex]

Watch the APU's with mining, unless you are really comfortable tweaking things. There can be issues with conflict with discrete GPU's when they meet your APU.

You will probably not want to consider this a home theater machine- the noise and the heat it will kick off will spoil movie night. Although your heating bill will be reduced in winter...

Well i don't think he's liking my advice anyway, but one GPU and the processor with that tiny fan wouldn't be that much of a space heater... would it?

BTW the miner this site offers http://bitminter.com/ is so dead simple, very user friendly Might be the most likely to go over smoothly with gpu detection. Managed to pick up an ancient GT 8400 Mobile, one of the oldest cards with good enough OpenGL support... but then i'm getting off topic.

If you want something cheap that mines with 3 GPU's and you can just throw out in a year listen to zvs.

[LoupGaroux]

He's talking 3x 5830. That will be noisy. And maybe a windows closed space heater, but it will recycle the btu's for you.

[astraldust]

Graphics cards seem to be cheaper in USA than over in the UK. Maybe I'm just looking at a bad time.

My impression is nearly electronic items are cheaper in US than in UK.

[killerbread]

What site are you buying from or are yo buying second hand.