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February 12, 2015, 05:13:35 PM
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imprisoned for thought crimes in 21st century europe

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A former math teacher had already been convicted by the court on similar charges. He appeared Wednesday in Coutances for video questioning the extermination of European Jews. 02/11/2015 At the hearing on Wednesday afternoon at the court of Coutances, the accused said he wish to "transform the grandstand court." Man has yet held the classical arguments of Holocaust denier, citing freedom of expression and lambasting the Gayssot law "unconstitutional" he said, which established the offense of denying the existence of crimes against humanity. At the helm, the former mathematics teacher who has already been convicted in 2007 on similar charges, expressed bluntly his convictions, claiming to follow the ideology of National Socialism.
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February 12, 2015, 06:33:49 PM
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Denying the holocaust is awful.

But Europe is crazy hypocritical. They were all shouting "Je suis Charlie" last month, which is essentially a free speech chant and then they go and arrest people because they don't like what their free speech is.

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February 12, 2015, 06:40:52 PM
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Europe is two-faced and are traders! They allow Nazi organizations to run rampant in Europe!

In the meantime, they Blame Russia for everything in Ukraine. Lots of thanks for liberating Europe
from the Nazis!
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February 12, 2015, 06:42:59 PM
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Denying the holocaust is awful.

But Europe is crazy hypocritical. They were all shouting "Je suis Charlie" last month, which is essentially a free speech chant and then they go and arrest people because they don't like what their free speech is.
Can i ask where are you from?
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February 12, 2015, 06:43:49 PM
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Denying the holocaust is awful.

But Europe is crazy hypocritical. They were all shouting "Je suis Charlie" last month, which is essentially a free speech chant and then they go and arrest people because they don't like what their free speech is.
Can i ask where are you from?

Why do you want to know?

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February 12, 2015, 06:52:52 PM
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The world is upside down now. I don't know where freedom of speech ends and discrimination begins!
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February 12, 2015, 06:55:13 PM
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The world is upside down now. I don't know where freedom of speech ends and discrimination begins!

Freedom of speech never ends.

Discrimination begins when people make decisions about other people that limit their social or economic ambitions based purely on characteristics such as gender, race, religion, country of origin, economic level, handicap, political beliefs, etc.

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February 12, 2015, 06:58:26 PM
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The world is upside down now. I don't know where freedom of speech ends and discrimination begins!

Freedom of speech never ends.

Discrimination begins when people make decisions about other people that limit their social or economic ambitions based purely on characteristics such as gender, race, religion, country of origin, economic level, handicap, political beliefs, etc.

Yes but anyone that denies holocaust is a fucking conspiracytard lunatic and should be treated as such.
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February 12, 2015, 07:14:54 PM
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holocaust is a fact...no one cant tell that is not true... -.- it happened...
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February 12, 2015, 07:29:01 PM
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Denying the holocaust is awful.

But Europe is crazy hypocritical. They were all shouting "Je suis Charlie" last month, which is essentially a free speech chant and then they go and arrest people because they don't like what their free speech is.
Can i ask where are you from?

Why do you want to know?
I want to know becouse you talking about europe. You from europe? Or this is secret?
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February 12, 2015, 07:50:27 PM
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imprisoned for thought crimes in 21st century europe
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/yonhap-news-agency/140127/s-korean-man-convicted-posting-pro-pyongyang-messages-online
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February 12, 2015, 11:27:25 PM
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Denying the holocaust is awful.

But Europe is crazy hypocritical. They were all shouting "Je suis Charlie" last month, which is essentially a free speech chant and then they go and arrest people because they don't like what their free speech is.
Can i ask where are you from?

Why do you want to know?

I guess I would have responded with something like:

"You already asked one question without my permission. Why are you asking my permission to ask another?... that is, if it is truly me you are asking?"

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February 13, 2015, 01:29:28 AM
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The holocaust is a lie and the reptilians exist, also satoshi is the NSA, alex jones told me!!
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February 13, 2015, 02:11:42 AM
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It would obviously be better if we could say "WTF?" and forget about these retarded people denying the holocaust.

But there are plenty of weak minds, unemployed losers, 15-year-old-kids, rich assholes ... and other people that do not understand why it's so awful to deny holocaust or to be a Nazi. The same applies to Islamic State, Al-Qaida and other hate groups recruiting young people brainwashing them. This kind of propaganda IS a problem.

It's not a "thought crime", because if you only think about it, you won't be punished. The problem is if you try to convince others.

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February 13, 2015, 06:41:49 AM
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Sounds like the guy is just crazy.  It's easier to prove the holocaust than to disprove.  But if mass hysteria takes hold it would be really weird and awful to live in a world where morons like this guy were in charge.

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February 13, 2015, 07:14:40 PM
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It would obviously be better if we could say "WTF?" and forget about these retarded people denying the holocaust.

But there are plenty of weak minds, unemployed losers, 15-year-old-kids, rich assholes ... and other people that do not understand why it's so awful to deny holocaust or to be a Nazi. The same applies to Islamic State, Al-Qaida and other hate groups recruiting young people brainwashing them. This kind of propaganda IS a problem.

It's not a "thought crime", because if you only think about it, you won't be punished. The problem is if you try to convince others.

The way to fight it is to be free to discuss it, I think. If you forbid it, it will still be talked about, but away from the public. That makes it easier to convince the people that you speak of, that are unemployed and 15 year old, etc. : /
Talking about it isn't forbidden in America I think, and it isn't a big problem. People know the holocaust happened and the ones who deny it are not believed just like that.

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February 13, 2015, 07:36:02 PM
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It would obviously be better if we could say "WTF?" and forget about these retarded people denying the holocaust.

But there are plenty of weak minds, unemployed losers, 15-year-old-kids, rich assholes ... and other people that do not understand why it's so awful to deny holocaust or to be a Nazi. The same applies to Islamic State, Al-Qaida and other hate groups recruiting young people brainwashing them. This kind of propaganda IS a problem.

It's not a "thought crime", because if you only think about it, you won't be punished. The problem is if you try to convince others.
questioning the holocaust is "awful" for the zionist parasite because when revisionism goes mainstream,and it will, they lose their privileged position in the world as eternal victims with the rest of us feeling like we owe them something, wars waged on their behalf by stupid yankee goyim, reparations from germany for 10000 years, carte blanche to abuse the palestine arabs and steal their land

question the numbers of red indian dead and you're good to go, ditto the transatlantic slave trade, dresden casualties or the gulag, but dispute that 60 trillion jews were disintegrated with ray guns on the personal orders of hitler and you all of a sudden become persona non grata

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February 13, 2015, 07:54:16 PM
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It would obviously be better if we could say "WTF?" and forget about these retarded people denying the holocaust.

But there are plenty of weak minds, unemployed losers, 15-year-old-kids, rich assholes ... and other people that do not understand why it's so awful to deny holocaust or to be a Nazi. The same applies to Islamic State, Al-Qaida and other hate groups recruiting young people brainwashing them. This kind of propaganda IS a problem.

It's not a "thought crime", because if you only think about it, you won't be punished. The problem is if you try to convince others.
questioning the holocaust is "awful" for the zionist parasite because when revisionism goes mainstream,and it will, they lose their privileged position in the world as eternal victims with the rest of us feeling like we owe them something, wars waged on their behalf by stupid yankee goyim, reparations from germany for 10000 years, carte blanche to abuse the palestine arabs and steal their land

question the numbers of red indian dead and you're good to go, ditto the transatlantic slave trade, dresden casualties or the gulag, but dispute that 60 trillion jews were disintegrated with ray guns on the personal orders of hitler and you all of a sudden become persona non grata

truth doesn't fear investigation

Hyperbole doesn't do your argument any favors, but it sure does give away why you actually care about the topic. It's not about the search for truth or freedom of speech, it's about keeping your ability to rail against the Jews.

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February 13, 2015, 08:28:54 PM
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Denying the holocaust is awful.

But Europe is crazy hypocritical. They were all shouting "Je suis Charlie" last month, which is essentially a free speech chant and then they go and arrest people because they don't like what their free speech is.

Did anyone of the Hewbrew background die?

It is a very interesting quesiton.  Millions that followed the jewish religion died yes but did anyone from "the race of god" die?  You should take a look into what they think of us non hebrew born humans....
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