Surprise: Government has been wrong about cholesterol for 40 years

[Wilikon]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/02/10/feds-poised-to-withdraw-longstanding-warnings-about-dietary-cholesterol/


The nation’s top nutrition advisory panel has decided to drop its caution about eating cholesterol-laden food, a move that could undo almost 40 years of government warnings about its consumption.

The group’s finding that cholesterol in the diet need no longer be considered a “nutrient of concern” stands in contrast to the committee’s findings five years ago, the last time it convened. During those proceedings, as in previous years, the panel deemed the issue of excess cholesterol in the American diet a public health concern.

The finding follows an evolution of thinking among many nutritionists who now believe that, for healthy adults, eating foods high in cholesterol may not significantly affect the level of cholesterol in the blood or increase the risk of heart disease.




Cholesterol Is Not a ‘Nutrient of Concern,’ Report Says


Experts say this would mean that recommendations are finally catching up with the evidence, which suggests that dietary cholesterol bears little impact on a person’s risk of heart disease.

“There have been multiple analyses and meta-analyses now looking at intake of dietary cholesterol and the risk of heart disease,” says Dr. Dariush Mozaffarian, dean of the School of Nutrition Science and Policy at Tufts University. “In the general population, there’s really not any strong evidence for a link.” However, a few studies have shown that there may be increased risk in people with type-2 diabetes, he says.



http://time.com/3705734/cholesterol-dietary-guidelines/


The shameful history of government, health industry, and media vilification of the egg:
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/01/28/breaking-eggs-not-bad-for-you-and-the-nyt-is-on-it/



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[hedgy73]

Now all they need to do is say cigarettes and copious amounts of alcohol is ok and I've got the perfect lifestyle

[Swordsoffreedom]

Well there was always LDL and HDL
I think they just did a poor job of defining which one was the evil one and which one was good for you
That said nice to see Cholesterol getting back its useful rep and it does make you wonder how they could keep getting it wrong for so long

[coinz19]

Also cholesterol maybe ok for most people, but not so good for others. The same can be said for salt, sugar alcohol, caffeine. 

[Wilikon]

Well there was always LDL and HDL
I think they just did a poor job of defining which one was the evil one and which one was good for you
That said nice to see Cholesterol getting back its useful rep and it does make you wonder how they could keep getting it wrong for so long

They did not.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNOsGIypxoM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNFuEcy5ekg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYxdhhkAfdo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx0Ml0iXLoA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76XMvK7xn0w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTqQUqv_LLI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKagAiiWRT0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKDzeQSIp2M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f_pcKyGauw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4lo99fSv9M


 

[pattu1]

In any case, do people actually heed these warnings?

[Agestorzrxx]

One step in the right direction. The next step should be to realize that cholesterol in your body is not responsible for heart disease but instead things like smoking and eating tranfats are. Read The Cholesterol Myth, it is very good at explaining it. And by all means do not let your doctor talk you into statins take fish oil instead. The way statins probably work is that they are have anti inflammatory properties which help to prevent cholesterol from depositing in inflamed arteries to repair them. Cholesterol will do this if your cholesterol level is 140 or 300. Fish oil does the same thing and a whole lot safer.

[chaolang]

I'll be honest this does not surprise me at all. Infact I think I read something similar about a year back... Food doesnt play as much of a significant role compared to how our bodies deal with these sorts of things imo.

[NeuroticFish]

Everything counts in large amounts. It's obviously bad to eat to much fries, for example, no matter the cholesterol news.
All they have to find is a better way to measure/see the abuses.

[manis]

How much you exercise is probably a bigger risk factor for heart disease.
Unfortunately, the government can't do anything about that.

[Wilikon]

How much you exercise is probably a bigger risk factor for heart disease.
Unfortunately, the government can't do anything about that.

Maybe they will one day...

 

[pattu1]

How much you exercise is probably a bigger risk factor for heart disease.
Unfortunately, the government can't do anything about that.

Maybe they will one day...

 

The link is a 1 hour video? 

[Wilikon]

How much you exercise is probably a bigger risk factor for heart disease.
Unfortunately, the government can't do anything about that.

Maybe they will one day...

 

The link is a 1 hour video? 

Get comfy. Grab a snack...

[notbatman]

My understanding is that the refined flours and sugars are processed by the liver as a poison and thus produce the harmful fats required by many diaereses.

[tvbcof]

I guess someone's patent on some useless medicine is going to expire soon.

My mom was diagnosed with 'high cholesterol' and instructed to take some medicine which she did briefly.  It made her joints swell up so that walking was painful (and she usually gets in several miles per day.)  She also read on-line about side effects including liver damage.  When she asked the doctor about it, he said "Oh, we can do liver transplants now."  If he was joking there was no give-away to that effect.  Needless to say, she threw the meds in the trash and ignores the cholesterol readings.  Most of my family has high cholesterol and most of them live into their mid 80's.

The more I think about this stuff the stronger my hypothesis that we normal citizens are really just the commodity in a handful of semi-competing people-farming operations.  Turns out that when a person is sick and worried about their health that is an outstanding time to milk them and their families for whatever can be shaken out of them.  It is utterly fucking criminal that this is allowed to happen IHO.

Now it is a stretch to expect that every doctor is 'in on the conspiracy' but at the end of the day doctors are not much different than any other fairly bright person except they have a bunch more years of indoctrination and a bunch more to lose by not turning a blind eye to the warts in the system.  I don't have to try real hard to imagine a very corrupt system surviving for a long time given the way things have evolved.

[Wilikon]

I guess someone's patent on some useless medicine is going to expire soon.

My mom was diagnosed with 'high cholesterol' and instructed to take some medicine which she did briefly.  It made her joints swell up so that walking was painful (and she usually gets in several miles per day.)  She also read on-line about side effects including liver damage.  When she asked the doctor about it, he said "Oh, we can do liver transplants now."  If he was joking there was no give-away to that effect.  Needless to say, she threw the meds in the trash and ignores the cholesterol readings.  Most of my family has high cholesterol and most of them live into their mid 80's.

The more I think about this stuff the stronger my hypothesis that we normal citizens are really just the commodity in a handful of semi-competing people-farming operations.  Turns out that when a person is sick and worried about their health that is an outstanding time to milk them and their families for whatever can be shaken out of them.  It is utterly fucking criminal that this is allowed to happen IHO.

Now it is a stretch to expect that every doctor is 'in on the conspiracy' but at the end of the day doctors are not much different than any other fairly bright person except they have a bunch more years of indoctrination and a bunch more to lose by not turning a blind eye to the warts in the system.  I don't have to try real hard to imagine a very corrupt system surviving for a long time given the way things have evolved.

Ask Your Doctor about nexoriotin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ShdqCaClqY

Ask Your Doctor about Pretendatrin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuk-iezYH4Y


Ask Your Doctor about Protectasil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th1oBCu7s5M

[grendel25]

Add this to all the stuff in that movie Fat head.  Fat head was the answer to Morgan Spurlock's Supersize me.  Here's a good website about it:  http://www.fathead-movie.com/

The first half of fathead (wow... that's actually a word) is pretty entertaining but it gets a little dry as it gets into the science.  Watch out if you're watching on a lazy Sunday afternoon...zzzZZZZzzzzzzZZZZZzzzzzzz

But it's a very good film and totally debunks a lot of Supersize me along with America's politically influenced health organizations. 

If you haven't watched supersize me or fathead... watch both but watch supersize me first followed by Fathead.  Both actually make some interesting points but ultimately fathead is better because it makes a far better argument for what a healthy diet actually is.

[BADecker]

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Marijuana's Long Term Effects On The Brain Finally Revealed!

https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/171167-2015-02-17-marijuanas-long-term-effects-on-the-brain-finally-revealed.htm

The researcher helped dispel the dying myth that marijuana use lowers IQ, and actually provides more evidence to marijuana's potential role in fighting Alzheimer's. The research revealed that earlier onset of regular marijuana use leads to greater structural and functional connectivity in the brain. The most significant increases in connectivity appear as an individual begins using marijuana, with results showing that the severity of use is directly correlated to greater connectivity.

[SamPatt]

In any case, do people actually heed these warnings?

It's a good question. If you get your health advice primarily from the government, you're going to have a bad time...

But it's likely that many doctors do just that, either from incompetence or because they are somehow incentivized to do so.

[BADecker]

"Wrong" doesn't have anything to do with it. "Lying."