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Question: How do you classify yourself politically?  (Voting closed: May 30, 2011, 11:11:17 PM)
Libertarian - 22 (21.6%)
Anarchist - 28 (27.5%)
Conservative - 3 (2.9%)
Liberal - 16 (15.7%)
Statist - 1 (1%)
Neutral - 9 (8.8%)
Ignorant - 4 (3.9%)
Uninvolved - 6 (5.9%)
Communist - 4 (3.9%)
Other - 9 (8.8%)
Total Voters: 101

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June 03, 2011, 08:31:53 PM
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Private and subsidized =/= Private

It's the worst kind of private.

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June 03, 2011, 08:33:02 PM
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Private and subsidized =/= Private

It's the worst kind of private.
It's not private at all. It's still a government entity like most large corporations.
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June 03, 2011, 08:37:26 PM
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Private and subsidized =/= Private

It's the worst kind of private.
It's not private at all. It's still a government entity like most large corporations.

It's a private company, with capitalist inversors (it's for profit) and all that... it's just that they do projects for the government.

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June 03, 2011, 08:38:55 PM
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Private and subsidized =/= Private

It's the worst kind of private.
It's not private at all. It's still a government entity like most large corporations.

It's a private company, with capitalist inversors (it's for profit) and all that... it's just that they do projects for the government.
The profit would not exist without government coercion and its request for services.
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June 03, 2011, 09:00:20 PM
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It's a private company, with capitalist inversors (it's for profit) and all that... it's just that they do projects for the government.
The profit would not exist without government coercion and its request for services.

That's true, but whenever there's a private prison, the state is transfering part of their monopoly of violence (you have very limited rights as prisoner) to that private prison company. Therefore, as for the definition of state as monopoly of violence, you are breaking the state apart.

As i'm not an anarchist, I firmly believe in the state having the monopoly of violence (therefore existing).

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June 03, 2011, 09:16:05 PM
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The only reason healthcare is so expensive in the US is because everyone's so dang sue-happy.  If we didn't have absurd judgments awarding hundreds of millions for a mistake in the surgery room, healthcare costs would be much more reasonable.

There are many reasons for the price of health care in the United States. I will list some...

  • Health insurance tied to employment
  • State mandated coverage
  • Unable to purchase insurance across state lines
  • Medical licensure laws
  • Widespread use of insurance for routine visits

Those are just the few I can think of off the top of my head.

THe only reason is that it's not socialized/universal. Health care, roads, prisons, public education, army, police, firemen... all of them must be run by the State and paid with our taxes. Because maybe it won't make many millionaires, but it's the most efficient way for most of the people.

You really believe that socializing the health care industry would make it cheaper? Doing so fixes none of the problems I've outlined above. It will indeed most likely get more expensive, except we'd now be paying for it in taxes, regardless of our usage.
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June 03, 2011, 09:17:50 PM
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It's a private company, with capitalist inversors (it's for profit) and all that... it's just that they do projects for the government.
The profit would not exist without government coercion and its request for services.

That's true, but whenever there's a private prison, the state is transfering part of their monopoly of violence (you have very limited rights as prisoner) to that private prison company. Therefore, as for the definition of state as monopoly of violence, you are breaking the state apart.

As i'm not an anarchist, I firmly believe in the state having the monopoly of violence (therefore existing).

Can't you see that allowing private entities to compete against the government (not subsidized by it) in what are normally considered to be state functions (law and law enforcement) would lead to a decrease in price and and increase in service quality? Why is it different than any other competitive industry?
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April 14, 2017, 05:01:43 PM
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To say something on this issue, you need to decide in which world you want to live.
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April 15, 2017, 04:02:10 AM
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To say something on this issue, you need to decide in which world you want to live.
Now if you look from the point of view of bitcoin users, then the state really has the right to its actions in the country and this may even be bad. If, for example, legalization bitcoin is allowed, then we will lose anonymity.
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February 11, 2018, 12:24:34 AM
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Sistem politik secara keseluruhan peran politik atau struktur tertentu,individu atau kelompok yang memikul peran tertentu,kebijakan publik yang khusus termasuk di dalamnya adalah aktor politik dan ego dari aktor politik

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February 11, 2018, 12:36:15 AM
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It's a private company, with capitalist inversors (it's for profit) and all that... it's just that they do projects for the government.
The profit would not exist without government coercion and its request for services.

That's true, but whenever there's a private prison, the state is transfering part of their monopoly of violence (you have very limited rights as prisoner) to that private prison company. Therefore, as for the definition of state as monopoly of violence, you are breaking the state apart.

As i'm not an anarchist, I firmly believe in the state having the monopoly of violence (therefore existing).

Can't you see that allowing private entities to compete against the government (not subsidized by it) in what are normally considered to be state functions (law and law enforcement) would lead to a decrease in price and and increase in service quality? Why is it different than any other competitive industry?

Because government functions and state functions are different?  Policing isn't a competitive industry.  Neither is firefighting or sanitation.


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February 11, 2018, 01:29:41 AM
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In my opinion, politics is the development path of the country. developed countries under socialist or capitalist regimes. Cooperation with the nations of the economic bloc is the political path of each country. My country follows the socialist regime.





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February 11, 2018, 05:01:09 AM
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Because government functions and state functions are different?  Policing isn't a competitive industry.  Neither is firefighting or sanitation.


... and are 'you' going to move to Venezuela any time soon?

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February 11, 2018, 06:14:43 AM
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Because government functions and state functions are different?  Policing isn't a competitive industry.  Neither is firefighting or sanitation.


... and are 'you' going to move to Venezuela any time soon?

Nope.  I have publicly funded police, firefighters, and sanitation right here in Arizona.  Also publicly funded roads, libraries, etc.

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February 11, 2018, 07:04:17 AM
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In my opinion, politics is the development path of the country. developed countries under socialist or capitalist regimes. Cooperation with the nations of the economic bloc is the political path of each country. My country follows the socialist regime.

Socialism is a failed ideology, just like communism. Please give me the name of a single socialist country, which is successful. There aren't many. Capitalism is the way to move forward and it gives equal opportunity for everyone.

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February 11, 2018, 09:39:53 AM
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   I dont have any kind of political orientation except I dream to live in anarchy-commune type of society. I mean a society without any police, censure, propaganda and people in power, with dwellers who respect privacy, rights and feelings of each other. Yea, such society is utopia because people are not as good, they would abuse each other in life without police, but its because they are created by moderm society.
   Anyway I dont beleive in democracy as well, it is same utopia for me. I see the world is ruled by powerful and greedy people, it is reality, so I dont care what kind of politics they represent

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February 20, 2018, 12:53:38 AM
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In my opinion, politics is the development path of the country. developed countries under socialist or capitalist regimes. Cooperation with the nations of the economic bloc is the political path of each country. My country follows the socialist regime.

Socialism is a failed ideology, just like communism. Please give me the name of a single socialist country, which is successful. There aren't many. Capitalism is the way to move forward and it gives equal opportunity for everyone.

The biggest problem with socialism is it's a lot like cancer. You can still live with a little bit of cancer but when it grows things get worse and worse and the cancer grows faster.

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February 20, 2018, 04:17:19 PM
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Ain't we all crypto anarchist here ?  Cool  Cool

More seriously, I've had a hard time trying to relate to current politcal movements ... In my yought I was very interested in anarcho-syndicalism (ref. Noam Chomsky if you want to read a bit on the subject).

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February 20, 2018, 04:33:13 PM
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That's good to see that people who are keen on bitcoin and cryptocurrencies do really share the values of cryptoanarchism and separation from the governmental finance control
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