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August 03, 2012, 10:11:52 PM
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Zhou: Remember when you personally told me that I would get my money back?

Since then I've tried to give you the benefit of the doubt.

I'm a developer and a business owner. I want to have sympathy for your plight, because I know how hard it is to run a startup that's responsible for other people's money. I do understand. As a casino owner though, I know that no one has sympathy for excuses from the bank, and my personal reputation lives and dies by my ability to pay my debts. Immediately. Not later. No matter how large.

Your reputation will live and die by your ability to pay your debts as well. Because you bear exact same responsibility as me.

I sympathize with your position, but I also think you've done something I would never do (whether I were 17 or 70 years old): You are responsible, directly or indirectly, for a situation where money was stolen from your customers, and you haven't paid them back. It's as simple as that. If I were in your place, I would be paying people out of my own pocket, taking out loans if necessary. It's the only honorable course of action. And no amount of money is worth losing your honor.

The only way you will ever be free of this shame is by honoring your debts. Now. Not later.

So, having read your email, you can have my full sympathy and support when you put my money back into one of my accounts. You owe me $981.18 - that's all I had in Bitcoinica USD when your site went offline. Feel free to open a StrikeSapphire account and send it in as a Bitcoin deposit. I don't care how it comes; when I see proof of your honesty in the form of my money being returned to me, you'll have my support.

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August 04, 2012, 03:14:59 AM
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Seems to me he missed a class at Trinity College where he claims to attend. http://www.trinity.unimelb.edu.au/learning/trinity-institute/young-leaders/young-leaders-winter-school.html

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WINTER SCHOOL PART 1: PERSUASIVE WORLD 1-8 JULY 2012

Winter School: This academic program looks at the world of media, psychology and law. The course aims to introduce students to the broad framework of psychological theory and principles that help to explain human behaviour in a number of different situations and environments.

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August 04, 2012, 03:41:11 AM
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Is there no one in Australia, going to Trinity college, is into Bitcoin that could verify he has a class in ethics?

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August 04, 2012, 04:00:20 AM
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Is there no one in Australia, going to Trinity college, is into Bitcoin that could verify he has a class in ethics?

To reveal that information would be unethical and thus defeat the purpose of the class  Smiley

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August 04, 2012, 06:30:38 AM
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Is there no one in Australia, going to Trinity college, is into Bitcoin that could verify he has a class in ethics?

To reveal that information would be unethical and thus defeat the purpose of the class  Smiley

Or of the other 300 (only) people that attend that college (approximately 1,200 online). The only reason I can see Zhou Tong attending that college is so that he can be only 2.9 miles from his virtual mailbox.

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August 04, 2012, 07:00:52 AM
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Is there no one in Australia, going to Trinity college, is into Bitcoin that could verify he has a class in ethics?

To reveal that information would be unethical and thus defeat the purpose of the class  Smiley

Or of the other 300 (only) people that attend that college (approximately 1,200 online). The only reason I can see Zhou Tong attending that college is so that he can be only 2.9 miles from his virtual mailbox.

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Phin, the fact that you've concluded Trinity College is an "online university" is a demonstration of just how flawed your reasoning has become.  The Foundation Studies students are face to face students, as are the students of the Residential College.  Students of the Theological School have the option of studying online, in the community or on campus.

Believe what you want about Zhou and whether he's studying in Australia but there is no need to slander the reputation of one of Australia's oldest academic institutions in the process.

Seriously, it's these kind of wild, unfounded assertions which are leading to people ignoring your posts.

All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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August 04, 2012, 07:06:32 AM
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Is there no one in Australia, going to Trinity college, is into Bitcoin that could verify he has a class in ethics?

To reveal that information would be unethical and thus defeat the purpose of the class  Smiley

Or of the other 300 (only) people that attend that college (approximately 1,200 online). The only reason I can see Zhou Tong attending that college is so that he can be only 2.9 miles from his virtual mailbox.

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Phin, the fact that you've concluded Trinity College is an "online university" is a demonstration of just how flawed your reasoning has become.  The Foundation Studies students are face to face students, as are the students of the Residential College.  Students of the Theological School have the option of studying online, in the community or on campus.

Believe what you want about Zhou and whether he's studying in Australia but there is no need to slander the reputation of one of Australia's oldest academic institutions in the process.

what was slanderous about stating 300 people attend face to face classes and 1200 attend online classes?  Maybe he is mistaken (I do not know and do not really care), but it is far from being slander if so.

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August 04, 2012, 07:13:18 AM
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Is there no one in Australia, going to Trinity college, is into Bitcoin that could verify he has a class in ethics?

To reveal that information would be unethical and thus defeat the purpose of the class  Smiley

Or of the other 300 (only) people that attend that college (approximately 1,200 online). The only reason I can see Zhou Tong attending that college is so that he can be only 2.9 miles from his virtual mailbox.

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Phin, the fact that you've concluded Trinity College is an "online university" is a demonstration of just how flawed your reasoning has become.  The Foundation Studies students are face to face students, as are the students of the Residential College.  Students of the Theological School have the option of studying online, in the community or on campus.

Believe what you want about Zhou and whether he's studying in Australia but there is no need to slander the reputation of one of Australia's oldest academic institutions in the process.

what was slanderous about stating 300 people attend face to face classes and 1200 attend online classes?  Maybe he is mistaken (I do not know and do not really care), but it is far from being slander if so.

Maybe he considers "online university" to be derogatory ?
http://www.khanacademy.org/ is one such online university and it is well respected so I dont get what is wrong with the term.

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August 04, 2012, 07:32:08 AM
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Is there no one in Australia, going to Trinity college, is into Bitcoin that could verify he has a class in ethics?

To reveal that information would be unethical and thus defeat the purpose of the class  Smiley

Or of the other 300 (only) people that attend that college (approximately 1,200 online). The only reason I can see Zhou Tong attending that college is so that he can be only 2.9 miles from his virtual mailbox.

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Phin, the fact that you've concluded Trinity College is an "online university" is a demonstration of just how flawed your reasoning has become.  The Foundation Studies students are face to face students, as are the students of the Residential College.  Students of the Theological School have the option of studying online, in the community or on campus.

Believe what you want about Zhou and whether he's studying in Australia but there is no need to slander the reputation of one of Australia's oldest academic institutions in the process.

what was slanderous about stating 300 people attend face to face classes and 1200 attend online classes?  Maybe he is mistaken (I do not know and do not really care), but it is far from being slander if so.

Phin's implying that Trinity College is an "online university" in the perjorative sense of that term (Zhou chose it because he only needs to go to his mail box to attend).  He could quite easily have checked the extent to which Trinity College offers online courses and whether they're offered to students who are resident overseas but he was less concerned with facts than he was about the narrative he wants to create about everything remotely connected with Zhou.


All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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August 04, 2012, 08:02:16 AM
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Is there no one in Australia, going to Trinity college, is into Bitcoin that could verify he has a class in ethics?

To reveal that information would be unethical and thus defeat the purpose of the class  Smiley

Or of the other 300 (only) people that attend that college (approximately 1,200 online). The only reason I can see Zhou Tong attending that college is so that he can be only 2.9 miles from his virtual mailbox.

~Bruno~


Phin, the fact that you've concluded Trinity College is an "online university" is a demonstration of just how flawed your reasoning has become.  The Foundation Studies students are face to face students, as are the students of the Residential College.  Students of the Theological School have the option of studying online, in the community or on campus.

Believe what you want about Zhou and whether he's studying in Australia but there is no need to slander the reputation of one of Australia's oldest academic institutions in the process.

Seriously, it's these kind of wild, unfounded assertions which are leading to people ignoring your posts.

I came so close to calling you a mother fucking idiot, but opted to not do that.

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I've already stated elsewhere, in no uncertain terms, that it's both. I HAVE NOT CONCLUDED THAT TRINITY COLLEGE IS AN "ONLINE UNIVERSITY". I have implied, more than once, that if there is a Zhou Tong taking classes there, it's online.

If you can't add to the investigation with proof that I'm right or wrong (I can handy it), then get the fuck off of my thread. I'm trying to help, and you feel it important to stick it up my ass without first applying Parkay. And by helping, it helps you. If I'm off-base, it hurts Bitcoin and you. Therefore, prove to me I'm wrong. Hell, you're taking for granted that Zhou Tong is a 17-year-old kid without proof, but ignoring what I've brought to the table proving elsewise.

If Zhou Tong exists, he came here to play with the grownups, but when things went sour, he cries to us wanting us to stop the investigation for fear of his family and future career. He even claims to have thought about suicide. Don't you see? Whoever is behind that Zhou Tong avatar is playing to our human emotions. Kevin Lim is fully capable of pulling this off, practicing all he's read.

BTW, how the hell did I slander Trinity College?

Later, bud. (with all due respect)

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August 04, 2012, 08:08:12 AM
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then get the fuck off of my thread

Zhou: Remember when you personally told me that I would get my money back?

Huh

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August 04, 2012, 08:10:35 AM
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Is there no one in Australia, going to Trinity college, is into Bitcoin that could verify he has a class in ethics?

To reveal that information would be unethical and thus defeat the purpose of the class  Smiley

Or of the other 300 (only) people that attend that college (approximately 1,200 online). The only reason I can see Zhou Tong attending that college is so that he can be only 2.9 miles from his virtual mailbox.

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Phin, the fact that you've concluded Trinity College is an "online university" is a demonstration of just how flawed your reasoning has become.  The Foundation Studies students are face to face students, as are the students of the Residential College.  Students of the Theological School have the option of studying online, in the community or on campus.

Believe what you want about Zhou and whether he's studying in Australia but there is no need to slander the reputation of one of Australia's oldest academic institutions in the process.

what was slanderous about stating 300 people attend face to face classes and 1200 attend online classes?  Maybe he is mistaken (I do not know and do not really care), but it is far from being slander if so.

Phin's implying that Trinity College is an "online university" in the perjorative sense of that term (Zhou chose it because he only needs to go to his mail box to attend).  He could quite easily have checked the extent to which Trinity College offers online courses and whether they're offered to students who are resident overseas but he was less concerned with facts than he was about the narrative he wants to create about everything remotely connected with Zhou.


Apologies for posting back-to-back, but opted to reply first to your other post before reading the rest of thread, just now getting to this one.

I've spent no less than an hour on their website, thus aware of all the facts. You are stating as a fact that I didn't check my facts. Are you peeking in my window, secretly wishing a BlowBob, thus knowing exactly what I'm doing or not doing? Just in case you are, take a gander at this 6cm monster. <>pulls out Mr. Wiggles<>

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August 04, 2012, 08:11:28 AM
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then get the fuck off of my thread

Zhou: Remember when you personally told me that I would get my money back?

Huh

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