Sealand - turned into BitcoinLand?

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Has anyone seen?
http://www.sealandgov.org/

Is it sovereign and recognized?

cuz if it is, I think we can ask them to accept Bitcoins, and maybe even buy it off them

[1714957817]

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[rosh]

You can already use bitcoins to purchase citizenship in some countries. 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-06-15/-bitcoin-jesus-calls-rich-to-tax-free-tropical-paradise

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You can already use bitcoins to purchase citizenship in some countries. 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-06-15/-bitcoin-jesus-calls-rich-to-tax-free-tropical-paradise

That's not what I meant,
we can purchase titles and a lot of things in Sealand with Paypal,
what if they start accepting Bitcoin - then we might even be able to purchase SeaLand itself

[bitkilo]

You can already use bitcoins to purchase citizenship in some countries.  

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-06-15/-bitcoin-jesus-calls-rich-to-tax-free-tropical-paradise

This is really cool though, i like what Ver is doing.
Wish i had of seen this article in June 2014, I would have started to save.
Looks a lot better that some bit of concrete in the middle of the ocean.

Hold a passport for me Roger, I'm on my way.....  

[BADecker]

You can already use bitcoins to purchase citizenship in some countries. 

I'm sure the CIA has been using bitcoins to buy CITIZENS of some countries already.

 

[BADecker]

Sealand. Too shallow for subs. But I bet some nuclear torpedoes could get in.

[Possum577]

What would you want to buy from them? They don't have any commerce. Also, you can buy bitcoin currently from where ever you are, as long as you have some fiat to buy it with.

[Lethn]

I've always thought of Sealand as a bit of a rich guy's gimmick really to be honest, as others have said, there isn't any commerce, trade and it doesn't really take part in any proper international diplomacy, I'd love for a small nation like that to properly exist though, right now it seems like the world is simply turning into three huge factions and people don't value their own independence at all.

You also need to take into account that thing is clearly not going to last forever, the platform is probably going to sink or get knocked over at some point.

[jaysabi]

No countries have recognized Sealand and the UK claims the platform as part of it's territory. To the extent that it operates as a self-declared nation is owed to the fact that the UK doesn't care enough to stop them from doing it, but it's because no one takes them seariously anyway. Sealand claims that the UK granted it de facto recognition when a diplomat visited there in the 70's to try to resolve a hostage situation. It's twisted logic. I believe Pirate Bay tried to purchase it at some point.

[BitMos]

You can already use bitcoins to purchase citizenship in some countries. 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-06-15/-bitcoin-jesus-calls-rich-to-tax-free-tropical-paradise

That's not what I meant,
we can purchase titles and a lot of things in Sealand with Paypal,
what if they start accepting Bitcoin - then we might even be able to purchase SeaLand itself

Is this plant of the Creation available for sale in BTC :



 

[Sharpe]

You can already use bitcoins to purchase citizenship in some countries. 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-06-15/-bitcoin-jesus-calls-rich-to-tax-free-tropical-paradise

That's not what I meant,
we can purchase titles and a lot of things in Sealand with Paypal,
what if they start accepting Bitcoin - then we might even be able to purchase SeaLand itself

I don't think Sealand would be an ideal base for bitcoin, especially being out in the sea. I really would like to see some sort of libertarian bitcoin nation at some point but it would need to be bigger and be able to grow crops and other such things.

[BitMos]

You can already use bitcoins to purchase citizenship in some countries. 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-06-15/-bitcoin-jesus-calls-rich-to-tax-free-tropical-paradise

That's not what I meant,
we can purchase titles and a lot of things in Sealand with Paypal,
what if they start accepting Bitcoin - then we might even be able to purchase SeaLand itself

I don't think Sealand would be an ideal base for bitcoin, especially being out in the sea. I really would like to see some sort of libertarian bitcoin nation at some point but it would need to be bigger and be able to grow crops and other such things.

and have a final solution against the controllers of America ready to be deployed at the first threat, which they will do.

[cheekychap]

Maybe we should convince Greece to become a Bitcoin economy.

[jaysabi]

Maybe we should convince Greece to become a Bitcoin economy.

Greece can't even convince itself to be a functioning fiat economy...

[BitMos]

Maybe we should convince Greece to become a Bitcoin economy.

Greece can't even convince itself to be a functioning fiat economy...

it's impossible to have a functioning fiat economy. eco 101 it's by design. however if you print, or can get those that get fresh note it's another story, but it will always make you dependent on them, ie it's against resilience.

[jaysabi]

Maybe we should convince Greece to become a Bitcoin economy.

Greece can't even convince itself to be a functioning fiat economy...

it's impossible to have a functioning fiat economy. eco 101 it's by design.

Notwithstanding the hundreds of functioning fiat economies on the planet, of course.

[BitMos]

Maybe we should convince Greece to become a Bitcoin economy.

Greece can't even convince itself to be a functioning fiat economy...

it's impossible to have a functioning fiat economy. eco 101 it's by design.

Notwithstanding the hundreds of functioning fiat economies on the planet, of course.

look at the history of fiat miscreant (how many ccy have fallen to 0), a tool to enslave the faithful and believers, those that will put Love over anything. Good, life is short. I apologize with all my Heart to you flsf. Sincerely.

edit; why are you on bitcointalk? to promote fiat? You don't have even a position in it... I mean how many B do you move hourly? you don't understand what I wrote, I know... learn humility first, then you can be aggressive as hell, but only if it's hell. And it is.

And one of the biggest cause are those mothers and fathers spreading children like cakes for their future income... it ain't possible in a round planet. MARK THOSE WORDS. (and I am not a fiat fan ).

[ajareselde]

No countries have recognized Sealand and the UK claims the platform as part of it's territory. To the extent that it operates as a self-declared nation is owed to the fact that the UK doesn't care enough to stop them from doing it, but it's because no one takes them seariously anyway. Sealand claims that the UK granted it de facto recognition when a diplomat visited there in the 70's to try to resolve a hostage situation. It's twisted logic. I believe Pirate Bay tried to purchase it at some point.

No countries recognized it because its a joke in the eyes of the world, too little to be taken seriously, but i find the idea fascinating (other than the selling of titles).
It would be a perfect getaway for anyone who had enough of this so called democratic world, but it would need to be much larger and greater to be able to provide enough for the self sustaining system.
I bet that if someone seriously tries to create some similar project on kickstarter, there would definetly be some takers.

[jaysabi]

Maybe we should convince Greece to become a Bitcoin economy.

Greece can't even convince itself to be a functioning fiat economy...

it's impossible to have a functioning fiat economy. eco 101 it's by design.

Notwithstanding the hundreds of functioning fiat economies on the planet, of course.

look at the history of fiat miscreant (how many ccy have fallen to 0), a tool to enslave the faithful and believers, those that will put Love over anything. Good, life is short. I apologize with all my Heart to you flsf. Sincerely.

edit; why are you on bitcointalk? to promote fiat? You don't have even a position in it... I mean how many B do you move hourly? you don't understand what I wrote, I know... learn humility first, then you can be aggressive as hell, but only if it's hell. And it is.

And one of the biggest cause are those mothers and fathers spreading children like cakes for their future income... it ain't possible in a round planet. MARK THOSE WORDS. (and I am not a fiat fan ).

You're making the mistake of me taking issue with your poor logic skills and worthless conclusions to be a defense of fiat. I'm merely pointing out the obviously false conclusions you're peddling as meritless. For example, you said "it's impossible to have a functioning fiat economy." I pointed out there are hundreds of functioning fiat economies. You responded with that in the history of the world, some have failed, as if that proved your point. It doesn't. In order to prove your point, there would literally have to be zero functioning fiat economies. The fact that there are hundreds proves you wrong. If you can't understand the difference between having a bad point, that's on you mate. I'm sorry for you.

As for being a defender of fiat, the thing I find most amusing is the most rabid btc supporters think that if fiat fails, btc won't. But btc only has value because it's convertible into fiat. I love btc just fine, but it has no value without fiat because it's use is extremely limited in the real world. All the major merchants who accept btc convert it to fiat immediately because they have no interest in holding btc because it has no value for them, they only offer it as an avenue to bring in the fringe customer who might want to pay with it. Maybe in the future that will change. But the people who were buying btc in 2013 that sent it over $1200 weren't buying because they were believers in btc, they were chasing the bubble because they thought it would make them fiat rich. Now that the bubble has popped, you're left with people like you and me. One of us believes btc will be the secret to surviving the next financial crisis. One of us is just interested in the technology and doesn't assign fantasy superpowers to something that isn't a reliable currency. If you think hard enough, you might be able to figure out which is which.

[jaysabi]

No countries have recognized Sealand and the UK claims the platform as part of it's territory. To the extent that it operates as a self-declared nation is owed to the fact that the UK doesn't care enough to stop them from doing it, but it's because no one takes them seariously anyway. Sealand claims that the UK granted it de facto recognition when a diplomat visited there in the 70's to try to resolve a hostage situation. It's twisted logic. I believe Pirate Bay tried to purchase it at some point.

No countries recognized it because its a joke in the eyes of the world, too little to be taken seriously, but i find the idea fascinating (other than the selling of titles).
It would be a perfect getaway for anyone who had enough of this so called democratic world, but it would need to be much larger and greater to be able to provide enough for the self sustaining system.
I bet that if someone seriously tries to create some similar project on kickstarter, there would definetly be some takers.

Sealand is a joke, for sure. They used to issue passports that you could buy, just for the novelty of it. But in order for something like a kickstarter to work, you'd have to build an island essentially in international waters, because all the current land is claimed by some nation or another. And building an island is kind of cost prohibitive. An interesting idea though, if only to think about.