Logical belief exercise - single post updated. comments are your own.

Logical belief exercise - single post updated. comments are your own.

- section objective.

is simply to learn in an open way, there is no competition or no authority and no one is claiming to know more than the other so the format should always be a question.

but the question is based on belief, so i will give you an example:

Y to X:

Y - " X would you say you believe in fairies?"
X - "nope i don not believe in fairies"
Y - "ok how about this persons claim here {presents document} they have a belief based on this
X - " I can explain that to myself and i am unconvinced that fairies exist"

Note the neutral format?

Y is never saying Fairies exist or claiming and X is just talking about what he believes based on his assessment.

this is a rather important point:

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K asks first Question:

K - do you believe in the likely possibility of other intelligent life in the galaxy and universe?

you can of course ask any question general or of anyone in our little group if you want to participate not rush also can take days or months .

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CM - "Yes I believe it is possible given the fact that if we exist here on earth it follows that given the size of the universe there could be life elsewhere. Have I met them? No."

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K - Sweet ok, well i'm going call this a "belief scenario" so to explain that it a binary way you can go so for example you could say "no i don't believe outright" or "yes i totally believe 100%" so your belief scenario is that there is a good chance based on the probability of the size of the universe and other things, is that fair?
you say you believe you have never met any, sounds reasonable to me.

now my follow up question to add to this belief scenario:

1. In your belief scenario, if other intelligent life does exist is it just isolated on the planets dotted around the universe, similar to us, or do you think there is the possibility of levels of advancement?

2. Do you think any intelligent life has ever contacted the earth in any way, or monitored earth in any way? So do you think that Alien craft have visited earth or do you think that other life out there is similar to us and dotted around the planets?

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CM - "You've made claims recently that an upcoming major event will expose the 'aliens' to humanity and it will be undeniable. You've alluded to some chaos such as power outages, phone service gone, people freaking etc to me via text.My question is where did you get this knowledge and what is the event and when/where will it take place?
Feel free to add any more detail about what the event is exactly."

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K - let me just correct you, I definitely implied that there would be disruptions and events, i never said there would be one single event, you have always interpreted it as just one single event for some reason? just after my physical contact i can say i went though an "orientation period of adjustment" if i said there would be one single "rapture" type event then i'm sorry for misguiding you i have definitely learned more since that time.

I was implying a "bluebook" style fake alien attack scenario however i really think that is unlikely now, but there definitely could be something like the "ariana grande""one last time" video clip with "comets etc" - also i have to add that you should look at the current situations on the earth for actual natural events.

How i got first knowledge of this set of "changes" that the planet is going though was with a direct physical contact with an extraterrestrial race, how it was displayed was with good humor and how i can explain it to you is to watch the movie "Fantastic Planet" when the young girl is doing "info sessions" so communication can work on many different levels i can break them down for you here:

1. spoken sounds ( like you and I ) (very inefficient as you can imagine)
2. sounds in your mind ( like when you read a book)
3. Images in your mind ( similar to a full screen cinema ) and with lots of information
4. The vibrations - so the feelings that come with it.
5. subconsciousness information information you don't know you received but then you may wonder why you just understand certain things.

I had all of these - one was specific to certain "calamity" on earth "real or otherwise" i.e some of it may be real and some of it may be "made for humans by humans"
that is the first time I had an idea that there woudl be changes coming.
I was never particularly interested in "UFOs" ( to my regret now) i use to think very much like a guy called "James Corbett" you know that it was all a "distraction" for humanity etc.
then i studied more and listen to various other contacts one particular fellow we affectionately called "MDawg" his name is Mythi and he is from Andromeda also i am still in contact with the race i first met, i will open say i feel a certain love and affinity towards them its hard to talk about them without feeling this love, i'm not brainwashed in any way but its apparent we have a long history.

When where, is pretty simple Where is on the earth and in our system here, when is right now and from about 2010, these changes have been happening and there is a lot going on, you may have noticed that every day now there is another "ufo sighting" either on or around the Sun or here on earth, the "fireballs" are new craft coming to earth i have to credit MDawg with that one they are not native visitors so they keep their shield full on which causes the glow.
so its happening and you are right in the middle of it.

i enjoy this i look forward to your further questions and hope you answer mine.

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CM - It could he dotted or there could be advancement. Either way to me since I haven't been, you know out there.
CM - Q2. Yes if they exist out there and are advanced it's possible they have visited us.

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K - This is a fantastic step do you realize what has happened, in your belief scenario you have pretty much said you "believe that extraterrestrials could visit us" would that be a fair assessment of this belief scenario currently?

of course there are some notable credible witnesses that humans woudl call "authority figures" people such as :

Lord Admiral Hill-Norton who if you listen carefully says his belief scenario is such that they have been visited:

http://youtu.be/SjwG388UP1M

Then there is Larry warren and the "merry men" at the Bentwaters base all these people had been cleared by their respective governments to "handle nuclear weapons"

http://www.therendleshamforestincident.com/Home.html

Then there is the various fellows at the other nuke bases including a targeting officer and including Officer Bob Jacobs who said he witnessed the captured film of a drone fying in over 8000k to disable a in flight missile head.

and they show the film.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTrGF6tSwZM

I give these to you not to try to convince you either way but just to talk about what you already have come to as a belief scenario.

So now my next question:

here is a list of the nearest stars to our Sun:

http://www.astro.wisc.edu/~dolan/constellations/extra/nearest.html

the closest is 4.2 Million light years, now with our current technology i have to tell you that is a long way.

so the next question is how did these extraterrestrials arrive here on earth?

is it inside your belief scenario that they did it with technology that is greater than ours or is there some other explanation that you haev found?

so summary of Q

Q if the extraterrestrials have visited how did they get here, what is in your belief scenario for this?

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CM - My question
Why would/should I or any rational person with a fair knowledge of how the world works and who wants to believe there is something out there believe any of this without having a dream or vision or whatever you think you had (assuming that was real)?
Eg you went from maybe believing there is something out there as I do now to having van 'dream' to now 'knowing' it's all true.

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K -
so you are asking me why any rational person such as yourself should believe any of this?

and you are saying that I i am sure of what i talk about?

OK this is simple, read above you do believe, you have said as much in the above writing let me quote you:

"It could he dotted or there could be advancement. Either way to me since I haven't been, you know out there.
Q2. Yes if they exist out there and are advanced it's possible they have visited us." - CM

I'm am sure of my belief scenario because it is as real to me as writing this email, but too expand on that, you could say my "quantum energy" is connected with their "quantum energy" so in a sense i don't really need to "seek evidence" things happen everyday , its like i suppose you can say living a different life.

I don't feel i 'm special in any way, just open to it and i can tell you every human being on the face of the earth can be connected in the same way, but i will say this , some physical things such as Diet and food intake and excercise can an do effect this , because simply you are your DNA.

to explain this when your Quantum energy occupies a DNA host a fetus, it has to first "fit the requirements" so if you look at it like a Kernel of a computer the Kernel has to match the hardware.

so the Quantum energy Kernel has to match the DNA, then the rest of the operating system is built in the 9 month until you are born, then you add to it with environment etc and a big part of that is diet and exercise.

so Summary:

you asked why you should believe, you already do based on your own writing.

I believe because its simply my reality.

I very much like this and i hope we are learning.

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CM - Wrong I can't substantiate your specific claims therefore I do not believe.
My other views are of a more general nature. It's the specifics of yours that I'm questioning.
So in other words you can't prove anything to me comprehensively. I'd have to have a 'dream' of my own.
Answer to your next question:
How do they get here? Insufficient information to answer.

Millenium falcon?

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K - Ah ok this is simpler then , you are asking me why you should believe my specific claim?

i'm saying if they are not inside your belief scenario then you shouldn't, its simple. however what i can say is your belief scenario is not a fixed thing as we can see.

so you say there is insufficient information to answer, i'm not asking for technical details i'm just asking you for your general suspicion or assumption in your belief scenario.

then you said "Millenium Falcon" which is a space craft that uses more advanced than current human technology.

so could we say that you believe something like this?

some sort of advanced technology?

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CM - Did they come 4.5 light years with 'some kind of advanced technology'
Haha. No definitely not. More like a wooden canoe.
None of this gets us any closer to knowing anything. We can guess and hypothesize all we like. Doesn't get us any closer to your 'truth'
Your specific claims remain unproven.
Q. On a scale of 1 to 10 how insane are you?

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Ok, you know, being a "witty earth human" i can see humor i'm going to say your "wooden canoe" statement is your affirmation of the fact that in your belief scenario you believe that extraterrestrials possibly use advanced craft to visit earth.

you think that it is possible based on your assessment, we could even say you believe this? but "haven't seen one"?

Then you state that this belief of yours does not in your opinion get us (you an me i presume) any closer to any further knowledge. etc saying we are hypothesizing...

and you state that my particular belief scenario remains "unproven" to you?

well i can say I feel we "us" have come a long way here, and are further progressing i think knowledge is expanding.

on hypothesizing i don't think that is specifically what we are doing we are talking about what you and i believe, and we could base these beliefs on theories, evidence etc all these variables.

this is true that the many "crazy" claims i made remain unproven to you, but then if i had of walked up to you yesterday and in front of your peers said:

"This is CM he believes that extraterrestrial life probably exists and they have probably visited us with craft that beyond our current technological capability"

(which is where your current belief scenario is? correct?)

what would you say?

on a scale from 1 to 10 how "insane" am i?
I am both 1 and 10 depending on the observer variables. i'm simultaneously 1 and all the variables up to 10.

Now my next Question for you :

So we have a huge universe and Aliens existing and advanced craft that can obviously achieve technological procedures beyond ours, so we have to assume they also if they wished have developed possible weapons system also far advanced to ours?

yes no or possible? so a perceived faster than light travel (or alternative) would, we could suppose, use a lot of energy, so these extraterrestrials can we assume have at their disposal powerful "energy weapons" or the like or do you think that on their path to advanced development they didn't ever need such things?

bonus question , now that your belief scenario has an "advanced extraterrestrial race, that may have visited us" taking into account the size of the universe do you think its just US and Them?

so to be clear i'm saying do you think that there is just us two in the universe?

Humans ( fairly primitive state of development )

and the

Race X - the one other advance race in the universe. (lets call them Race X)

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feel free to ask anything further of me.

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CM - I didn't come to the belief of "extraterrestrial life probably exists and they have probably visited us with craft that beyond our current technological capability" during the course of our conversation it has been that way for a long time just to clear that up so we haven't really gotten anywhere. If you had of said that in front of peers I would have agreed.

To sum up though you use the word 'possibly' many times throughout your last reply.

Some of what you say could be true or all of it or none if it. We have no way to verify it so again it comes down to me having to believe that you had some kind of magical vision from aliens.

You claim to have knowledge of future events so can you go in to more detail on those? You said things are happening now. Can you elaborate?
You also now claim to be in contact with what most people would call 'dead relatives'
Can you tell us about that?

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K - Awesome questions:

ok so you would agree that this is you overall belief scenario, and you would have no problem telling people about this, this is great, you confused me because you certainly don't come across in demeanor that way sometimes.

however you didn't answer my -:

Q - Are there only two races in this scenario and the could these race(s) (the X one) have higher defensive or offensive capability than us.

i was using the words "possibility" because i was unsure if you have invested in this belief scenario so i didn't want to as you say "put words in your mouth"

well lets look at it a different way could some of what you say be true or all of it or none?

we can even explore those options for example we can say none , and then we have to say humans are alone in the universe and maybe the universe is just here for humans? and any evidence to the contrary is either misrepresented or confused?

now your great questions:

I don't have specific map locations of times dates and events in the future as unfortunately i do not have access to a very powerful quantum computer to work those things out, but i would contest that other advanced races do, and this is in part why they are careful about out changing the "continuous sequence of events" on the "Planet" < any of that sound familiar?

https://kolinevans.wordpress.com/2015/02/17/explaining-the-woodbridge-bentwaters-incident-and-translating-the-binary-code-by-kolin-evans/

Earth Changes help from friends

but i can say that the Earth is undergoing a shift of frequency and now has to change and stabilize at the new frequency, extraterrestrials have intervened many times to stop us from calamity in these changes, you might have seen:

- Craft near the sun.

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- A huge Triangle "hole" in the sun.
(see images below or simply search on the internet be sure to read the "debunking" explanation)
Edit - sorry it wasn't a debunking but it's the top search result - actually worth watching even though he has it a little confused:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkPOrpZS7I0

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- You might have seen videos of things entering volcano's

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- also "orbs" shooting things at "chemtrails"

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- Also orbs disabling nukes (obviously) (see the Lucky Larry King videos) (Larry is a great guy)

all of these actions were to help the current humans on the earth, and they were all absolutely legal, ( I can explain)

Why the change?

This change comes about due to the earth and the sun and the system crossing the 0 plain on "wobble" it has as it travels around the Galactic center.
this causes a new vibrational frequency and an adjustment period.
people that enter a new "understanding" or new "level of understanding" will have adjusted with this planet - Terra or Earth -
those that have not will recycle on other planet that are at the correct frequency, its all about math and not subject really to interpretation however, the only one that decides an individuals frequency is that individual.

Other habitable planet in our system:

(not necessarily at different frequencies so for example as just explained, if you were not on earth freq you can go to different planet outside this system there not limit of travel technically when you are a quantum energy sate (i will also explain this in the "Dead" people part)

However there are 3 other possible habitable planet now in this system.

Mars is getting an atmosphere and has a human colony already. "Rummy Ilse" <
Venus is a contender.

And a Planet was moved here though a portal in the Sun (see the triangle):
http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2012/03/nasa-spotted-gigantic-triangle-shaped.html

the name of this planet "TAUS" and it was moved here at the behest of a race from the Pledians of proper name i don't know but they look just like you and i give or take that is to say human, you could work with them in your store etc and not know it.

a lot of people think this is "nibiru" but that was the name supposedly give to a planet that orbits the Dwarf star of our Binary system.

so there is a lot happening - you might have seen images of this planet TAUS near the sun, it charges up like a huge capacitor it has apparently a field surrounding it - so it doesn't need to be near the sun after that period, however if it is in the system that will be soon undeniable by say "NASA"

NASA

UPDATE - it looks like NASA and the MSM is now openly talking about "Clouds on Mars"

see this Scientific American Article - :

Mars's Massive Erupting Clouds Still Puzzle Scientists
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/mars-s-massive-erupting-clouds-still-puzzle-scientists/

although i have to ask you why was it an amateur astronomer that saw the plumes on Mars as they terraform and retrofit the atmosphere, how come NASA didn't tell humanity about that?

see here:

http://rt.com/news/232955-mars-plumes-erupting-mystery/

also let me ask, what do you notice different about the NASA photo to the Amateur photo?
does it look like Mars now has an extensive amount of clouds covering it?

NASA Image -

Amateur Image -

you may notice that this might not be "overexposure" as the "polar regions" north and south seem still partly uncovered ?

Ha Ha you know being kinda versed with Photoshop myself now that i look at that handout pic if i didn't know any better I'd say someone cloned over the clouds a surface? or is that glowing edge just a healthy martian glow ?

The future:

what's happening now?

Well , we are kind of "on our own" now the wobble and the adjustment period is stabilizing lots of "strange things" are happening to people - you may notice "UFO" sightings daily - you might notice that the wars around the earth are petering out losing faith, even the bland attempts to scare people with ISIS are falling pretty flat.

there is a lot of seismic activity and also you can notice how government has lost a lot of legitimacy around the world all the "nwo" plans seem in disarray. i can tell you this was because of legal extraterrestrial intervention.
where our "elite" broke the rules then also that equation can be balanced so it is absolutely legal.

the future is not set in stone, humanity can go though extensive calamity, and can lose a lot of population our systems of communication are simple and weak and are subject to many failures.
the best thing to do is if you are a human and you are reading this , just have a basic plan and also look at the area where you live etc and asses your own situation against the disruption of your "working lives" (human slavery)

"Dead" people "i see dead people" what are "dead" people?

that is going to need a full chapter - i'll address it in it's own email ok.

your questions remain...we can't get out of sync here : D

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K - back writing:

The "Dead" people

Well let me tell you i figured this out and learned this directly from information from you could say an affinity with an extraterrestrial race i can tell you i'm quite proud about that - they broke no rule ( and i have a feeling they don't really care if people contest they did) ( however i can assure you they didn't) this was TECHNICALLY MY OWN thoughts and cognitive ability , there was no "magic" that allowed me to understand.

I was myself, and i did not learn this thought info given my "MDawg" (what Chirs and i affectionately call and Alien from Andromeda system)

well let me tell you as someone that is wholly not religious, some of earth religions nearly got it correct.

what are you?

What you are is actually a quantum filed of energy, this quantum filed vibrates at a certain frequency and is indestructible, you occupy DNA and a container that matches your frequency.

your life has been a series of being physical and non physical when you are non physical you have two options:

1. you recycle ( you are born again into a fetus that matches your frequency) this can be across planet by the way, however many advanced races can actually manipulate this, i will explain more.

2. you do not recycle straight away, however i have to tell you that when you are non physical "Time" is irrelevant to us here as it is there - you could be non physical for 100's or even 1000's of years.

are there such things as "Demons" or "Dimensions"?

nope not really.

Well not in the way its been told on the internet by semi religo fanatics, ( i have my own reasons to believe why they say this) ( but for space won't add now)
there is a 3D dimension that we all live in here so if you are meat and DNA you are here in this 3D dimension.
when you become non physical either for a little time or a long time before recycling, you move to one other dimension.
we can call that the 4th if we like , but its really more like a "density filed"

now inside the 3D there is unlimited "levels" below 0 (earth humanity is a mix of <0 0 and 1 and above with most being at or around 0 and a large part at 1 )

these levels move up to 10 then after that you are permanently "non physical" (which is actually not true you are actually just on a new set of level of understanding ) in a new "density set"

the beings in the "4th dimension" "manage" our quantum field while it is waiting for a recycle or if we need "work" as i may be, these guys are "light beings" and look "blue" to us.

you will hear a lot of Near Death experience people talk about a "blue' people, or if they are seeing their "relatives" this is because they are going to stay a little while before recycle.

when a human level 0 is recycled they can remember up until about the age of 3 years. Watch "IOrigins" also see all the "my kid is another person" videos online (i'll link)

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/luke-ruehlman-two-i-was-a-woman-called-pam-in-a-past-life/story-fniym3t1-1227224291085 "omg my kid is a black woman" (and like)

IOrigins - yes your iris stays the same - so this is real << http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2884206/

IOrigin- when the girl said "i'm an Alien" she was taking the piss out of the guy as she knew he wouldn't remember - she followed him to earth he likely killed himself at a higher level and was recycled on earth - she came though the 11:11 portal and waited for him to be of the same age. (for love) they were together you see at that level - people of many higher level can extend their life to 300+ years though simple DNA manipulation some even unlimited but as you can see that gets murky ha ha

What happens if you don't recycle ?

you basically walk around in a different "dimension" this place pretty much looks like our world however it is different we would perceive it as "less real" and "more magic" this is where you go when you dream "partly"

if you were having some malady in this world then you will basically appear as that in the other, however you can "recover" your energy field and when you are healthy you will then choose to recycle or wait for a person you feel affinity with and then recycle with them ( you will know that you won't remember but when you are there you will laugh about our short lives here also so waiting for someone is important)

lets talk about "hell"

well put it this way the quantum field is all about energy equilibrium, so if you specifically act against peoples will and consent there is an "energy transfer system" or maybe a better way is a "frequency shift" and for example taking someone life or attempting to take someone life (recycle them against their will ) is a pretty big infraction of self determination.

who do i feel sorry for?

soldiers mostly, some people working for "intel" agencies.

in this case you will move to a non physical plain but you always move to the plane of your frequency, if you are far below 0 you will have to stay in that place possibly a long time 100's or even 1000 plus years, everyone there is at the same frequency so there are some how you say "bad guys" there and you are "on your own" until you can find some people to "band with" if you die there you go back there its simple - you can feel pain and all the attributes that we feel here -
but that is pretty much the same as a "waiting area" as well. except as i said , we in this state if we looked at it we would perceive it as "more strange" " more magical" "less real" for good or bad so like a "nightmare or a dream"

EDIT - I'm not saying every soldier or person that worked for an intel agency is going to be recycled with a negative frequency, that woudl be a stupid thing to say I'm most certainly saying it is always up to the individuals actions, and that Free will is a large part of the energy equilibrium equation, and a huge infraction against an individual energy field free will is the "forced recycle" just as mathematical resonance multiplies this does not matter if it is a "person taking orders" or the "person that gave the order" so you have to see it in that context so for example "owning a slave" is inhibiting directly someones free will, assaulting someone when not in direct immediate threat of self defense is forcing against free will - you will know because you will feel the change, and this is probably why "suicide" is a large aspect of armed forces.

however "suicide" is not going to help.

if you want to avoid this negativity or try to balance your equilibrium best thing to do is try to live longer and balance the equation, of course you will balance it if you die also you will balance eventually in that dimension, so its really up to the individual, However you will NOT balance it by the act of taking your life, that is always neutral of negative so that is to say 0 or <0 in the energy field.

if you are an intelligent being and you feel your equilibrium is negative best thing to do right now while you are alive is to try to balance that equation, i think Edward Snowden is trying to do that among other people.

but everyone in the world and universe in this 3D plane is subject to the same system.

How can some people "see dead people" or even have limited communication?

ok so we have just learned you can't really die, and trust me you can't "haunt" people, if you are in the non physical state waiting for repair or waiting for a person, you can "Tune some people in"

think about a Radio:

so you CM have a certain freq and like on the dial of a radio when you are in a sleeping state your frequency is more "accessible" this is simply because you don't have outside stimulation and other things , you can say by going to deep sleep you are "on air"

now there are an unlimited set of freq bands really - and you can say that each is a representation of a co-ordinate on a 3D space time map - if someone "tunes you in" you may be able to have a rather strange and "magical" conversation with them , most times humans pass this off as a "vivid dream" they can also make people appear that you recognize and also they can just give you abstract symbolic messages.

I can tell you from experience most of these people know what they are doing, and they are either making fun of us (in a light hearted way) sometimes or trying to get a message across to someone, its all up to the person that is being tuned in to interpret.

if you have a "dream" and its just a flash of images and other things - then you can look at this as like crossed channels on a radio or a "bad channel" like you can't really gain a fix on it (or them on you)

I can also tell you there is communities over there and if the "word spreads" that one particular person can receive and pass messages then they can be targeted for this.

I recently met with a great grandmother of a friend and she had a message to give to the mother of the friend, i asked for a photograph (from the friend after getting this message) having never seen her in my life and it was correct , except she had the things fixed that obviously she wanted fixed so that is to say she was the repaired version of herself, there are many keys to this that i could not have known and she gave me a message and it was very clear - she just "tuned me in" she is a very powerful woman and i will never underestimate people based on their physical looks here in this physical world again.
you could say she left an "impression" on me.

so to summarize :

IOrigin is real
"my baby's not my baby! "
"hell" is kinda real
you can't die.
you can only go forward, well see"hell"
you can be "tuned in" if you are not of bad physical health.
"a dingo ate my baby"

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BONUS answer - : {ding ding ding}

Ever wondered why the "elite" don't really give a flying fuck if you "die?"

because they know ALL of (or most) of what i just told you

they see it as "shifting stock" around from planet to planet, if they wiped this planet to them that would be like moving you to be recycled.

when i said "advanced races" can "manage this" that may well have a lot to do with he Van allens belt, apparently (maybe we can check this)

this has now dissipated - so before that time except under some circumstances it is possible that only humans were recycling here on earth.

now that the earth is at a different freq those that are not lvl 1 will go to other planets in nearby systems.

but WAIT - this doesn't mean that we are talking bout a mass extinction scenario we are talking about when you live out your natural life then you will recycle.

although the "elite" wanted to somewhat "speed that up"

and you may be able to talk to Chris about the ahhh how could we say "political' aspects which now the NSA and Google both know about and we are waiting back for a response for a blockbuster movie deal !

so i can't talk about that and it would take up another full page.

I'm keen to watch "Jupiter ascending" because they talk about "harvesting a planet" and people in Hollywood are privy to info, they had it passed down by the races that "elite" are in a bilateral contract with, that is to say not Hollywood but the "Elite" are in a bilateral contract with a "Grey race" and by extension a "Reptilian" race ( which aren't all the bad guys that David icke make out by the way)
or i should say they are not well represented by him. (i'm sure they give net 0 fucks) (except if it was gong to change the course or direction of the planet)
by the way Annunaki are not reptilian this is just plain obvious, you have been lied too look at the depiction on the stone (the one everyone shows) you will see they are just a bigger version of a human.

* what?... do you think when the stone works were being made 1000's of years ago they said "oh wait, no lets make them (these reptilians) look human because we don't want to scare or offend any future onlookers!" this is a MA rated +15 stonework

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DISCUSSION UPDATE - :

its fair to say that CM at this point is not really seeming keen to continue the discussion here, he is extensively posting tweets to me, but when i ask him to continue the discussion here he does not seem to want to.

i have verbatim copied the email here apart from some obvious English mistakes - anyone can verify this by checking his twitter and asking him here - @CMacauley82 Likewise mine is here - @Kolin_Quark

his primary argument is that now I'm trying to be somehow "famous on the internet" which is an interesting angle considering all that has happened not sure i'd take this path with something like that? and of course it is a pretty silly claim. but i can see where he might think he is coming from.

he since very amusingly posted this to lots of people on Twitter - :

which i have to admit is pretty funny.

I've asked him to answer the simple questions and he has since "backtracked" a bit on the belief scenario now saying that he never said he believed but that it was all a "possibility" however in some confusion he then said the most convincing evidence he had seen was that Larry king video of the "dummy nuke" being disabled, so he seems to be shifting between theses two states?
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Sadly guys i think this is the end:

{light violin music}

Summary of what i think happened in the logic exercise -:

After the Scientific American article (clouds on mars) our friend CM had a sort of regressive logical breakdown, he has always been versed with the way the monetary system works and i guess he put 1 + 1 together and figured out that the atmosphere on that Planet may well be due to his and others Debt slavery in part of whole.

basically i think the "matrix" movie got all a little real for him, and as he believes this is his first and last life i guess that's a pretty big investment.

he has kind of slipped into a child like Twitter argument and he has refused to reply to the last email.

i will keep this copied and updated in case he gains his grip again, I've told him drinking and/or drugs don't help, when you wake up you will still be a debt slave and there will still be "clouds" on mars etc.

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Ok i think we can finish this exercise up now for good.
that was a fun ride wasn't it?
As for CM he will be fine he will find his path of belief what ever it is i'm 100% confident of that, he is my friend here and now and i know he will work everything out we will help each other.

but just before i want to sign off.

Up there i spoke about a part of the human recycle procedure that occurs if you are with a specifically "negative" vibrational frequency.

i just want to give a message to any people out there that intended infractions against myself personally and anyone else that you know , I really do actually forgive you totally.

but you know I have had glimpses of where such a place might be and what it might look like, and if I could have some how had told you and made you believe (which is impossible of course)

you might have take a different course, however here is my hope:

ignore completely the film clip and listen to the words and music only:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExLqMBLyWd8

^ you may be here for some time....

But then you know what?

when you are here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8hT3oDDf6c
^^^
it won't be long and we will be calling each other brothers again, you stupid cunts.