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February 21, 2015, 10:34:29 AM
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Use a meeting place which is opposite or next to a bank, so you can quickly sell your btc, and put the $$$ into bank asap

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February 21, 2015, 10:44:17 AM
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In response to the “everybody should be armed” argument, people should simply ask the gun activist whether or not they support Iran getting a nuclear weapon. By the logic that the gun activist applies, everybody is safer when everybody is armed, and this would translate to support for Iranian weapons; in reality, these people almost always say that Iran isn’t a rational actor and that giving them a nuke endangers everybody around them. When they say this, you should simply tell them that not every gun owner is rational and that unrestricted gun ownership is the micro-equivalent to letting every country have nukes.
Still waiting.

Not every cop or governement is rational and fair so by your logic, police and governement should not be armed.
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February 21, 2015, 11:31:05 AM
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In response to the “everybody should be armed” argument, people should simply ask the gun activist whether or not they support Iran getting a nuclear weapon. By the logic that the gun activist applies, everybody is safer when everybody is armed, and this would translate to support for Iranian weapons; in reality, these people almost always say that Iran isn’t a rational actor and that giving them a nuke endangers everybody around them. When they say this, you should simply tell them that not every gun owner is rational and that unrestricted gun ownership is the micro-equivalent to letting every country have nukes.
Still waiting.

On a fundamental level, they (Iran) have as much right as any other country to own and operate their own nuclear weapons.

I would be happy to live in a gun-free society if nobody else, especially the military and police, also were disarmed.
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February 21, 2015, 03:07:50 PM
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If you sell Bitcoin to individuals in person, be very careful! People are being mugged for their Bitcoin at gunpoint. http://observer.com/2015/02/bitcoin-crime-wave-breaks-out-in-nyc/
move your bitcoin trades from the shades backalleys of Bronx to somewhere public like a mall or something so you don't get mugged at gunpoint.
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February 21, 2015, 03:09:43 PM
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Not every cop or governement is rational and fair so by your logic, police and governement should not be armed.
Correct. Now we're getting somewhere.

I would be happy to live in a gun-free society if nobody else, especially the military and police, also were disarmed.
The sooner the people of the world disarm their governments, especially of nuclear weapons*, the better odds our species has of surviving the 21st century. But to do that, the people would need reason on their side, they would need to be able to point to a society of non-aggression and contrast it against a violent government. That's impossible in any nation as attached to violence and weapons as the United States is today.

*These weapons will either be dismantled or they will be used. The world can't wait forever.

On a fundamental level, they (Iran) have as much right as any other country to own and operate their own nuclear weapons.
What about ISIL? They consider themselves a nation too. Do they get nukes, or because you deem them unworthy should they be disarmed? The point I'm trying to make here, is that for sanity's sake, a line must be drawn somewhere. You may draw that line differently from someone else, but your argument must be logically consistent, else you render yourself a hypocrite and a fool.

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February 21, 2015, 04:26:46 PM
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Those thugs would be more profitable, if they steal fiat from people. Why go after bitcoiners ?

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February 21, 2015, 05:04:17 PM
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Those thugs would be more profitable, if they steal fiat from people. Why go after bitcoiners ?
Because you can steal thousands off a person's usb/smartphone and stealing thousands off a person would mean carrying a bag or whatever filled with papers.

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February 21, 2015, 05:34:58 PM
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People are being mugged for the bitcoin in NYC?!?!

It's official, Bitcoin has become peers with cash!

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February 21, 2015, 05:44:47 PM
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Those thugs would be more profitable, if they steal fiat from people. Why go after bitcoiners ?
Because you can steal thousands off a person's usb/smartphone and stealing thousands off a person would mean carrying a bag or whatever filled with papers.

I am sure someone selling bitcoins, would atleast take the precaution of not carrying too many bitcoins or cash with him for such a trade.
If its a big trade he would probably use a public place for the trade.

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February 21, 2015, 05:58:53 PM
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in public places and the online world just the same, will feel fear  Undecided
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February 21, 2015, 06:00:12 PM
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Just do the exchange in front of a police station, i dont think they have the balls to stab you on there.

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February 21, 2015, 08:22:49 PM
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Easy fix. Open carry and trade in a public place with lots of cameras. Criminals are stupid but they aren't that stupid.

Since NY citizens don't have the same rights as normal people (and can't carry the tools required to protect themselves), I suggest they trade in the police station lobby.



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Anyways it's quite easy to avoid these circumstances , just deal in a public place and don't carry much in single wallet
But if you're out of luck , you will get robbed anyway Undecided
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February 23, 2015, 04:56:53 AM
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In response to the “everybody should be armed” argument, people should simply ask the gun activist whether or not they support Iran getting a nuclear weapon. By the logic that the gun activist applies, everybody is safer when everybody is armed, and this would translate to support for Iranian weapons; in reality, these people almost always say that Iran isn’t a rational actor and that giving them a nuke endangers everybody around them. When they say this, you should simply tell them that not every gun owner is rational and that unrestricted gun ownership is the micro-equivalent to letting every country have nukes.
Still waiting.
Uhh no these are different issues. If there was a guarantee of ZERO guns, meaning somehow guns just couldn't work anymore, I'm sure everyone would like this, including myself. But since criminals have access to black markets, they will still get guns REGARDLESS of whether it is illegal or not. Drugs are illegal but people are still using them no? Heres the thing. Criminals will have guns regardless, but the gun laws are telling us whether or not lawful citizens will be able to own them too. People want to be armed so they can protect themselves. Having to use your gun for self-defence is rare, probably won't happen in the average lifetime but it happens to some people. You would probably want protection in that case. Put it like seatbelts. You probably won't get caught in a car crash but if you do, you would be wishing you had a seatbelt. I never said that "everyone should be armed", I am pointing out the bullshit in your "facts".

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February 23, 2015, 05:02:46 AM
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I hope exchange owners will not be getting kidnap for bitcoin ransom.
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February 23, 2015, 05:06:45 AM
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There are two gun policies that work to minimize the risks of gun danger. One is "everyone has guns", the other is "no one has guns". Anywhere inbetween won't work, and that's why America has such a high rate of gun-related problems compared to everywhere else, which goes closer to the "no one has guns" approach (while in America, many people have guns but it's far from everyone).

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February 23, 2015, 05:12:37 AM
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There are two gun policies that work to minimize the risks of gun danger. One is "everyone has guns", the other is "no one has guns". Anywhere inbetween won't work, and that's why America has such a high rate of gun-related problems compared to everywhere else, which goes closer to the "no one has guns" approach (while in America, many people have guns but it's far from everyone).
Well the no one has guns isn't exactly working out as the cities with very low gun ownership have lots of gun related murders, since lawful citizens can't get them but criminals can illegally.
Check this statistic out:
https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/09/11/uk-violent-crime-rate-eight-times-higher-than-the-us/
Maybe we have more gun violence but they have 8 times the amount of other crime than us, and they have very little guns.
The no one has guns approach will not work unless every single gun is somehow redundant and does not fire at all, which is not possible.

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February 23, 2015, 07:08:23 AM
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Easy fix. Open carry and trade in a public place with lots of cameras. Criminals are stupid but they aren't that stupid.

Since NY citizens don't have the same rights as normal people (and can't carry the tools required to protect themselves), I suggest they trade in the police station lobby.



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Anyways it's quite easy to avoid these circumstances , just deal in a public place and don't carry much in single wallet
But if you're out of luck , you will get robbed anyway Undecided

By the looks of it that guy had his femoral artery or vein slashed and is bleeding out all over his leg and the ground. I wouldn't consider that funny at all. I honestly hope the guy lived...

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February 23, 2015, 07:24:56 AM
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There are two gun policies that work to minimize the risks of gun danger. One is "everyone has guns", the other is "no one has guns". Anywhere inbetween won't work, and that's why America has such a high rate of gun-related problems compared to everywhere else, which goes closer to the "no one has guns" approach (while in America, many people have guns but it's far from everyone).
Well the no one has guns isn't exactly working out as the cities with very low gun ownership have lots of gun related murders, since lawful citizens can't get them but criminals can illegally.
Check this statistic out:
https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/09/11/uk-violent-crime-rate-eight-times-higher-than-the-us/
Maybe we have more gun violence but they have 8 times the amount of other crime than us, and they have very little guns.
The no one has guns approach will not work unless every single gun is somehow redundant and does not fire at all, which is not possible.

Violent crime rate includes people being punched in the face, kicked, pepper-sprayed, etc...

Would you rather get punched or shot at?

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February 23, 2015, 07:56:52 AM
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This story could have only happened this way:



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February 23, 2015, 08:23:23 AM
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Did not read the whole story (read the first two and last paragraphs). I can't believe there would be people who will 'force' people to transfer their Bitcoin. If I were to exchange with stranger.. I will meet him or here at a busy place.

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