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February 23, 2015, 09:11:58 AM
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"It's always better to have a gun and need it, than not have a gun and not need it."  Little off topic but one of my favourite lines from Trailor Park Boys (who do accept bitcoin).

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February 23, 2015, 01:27:06 PM
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There are two gun policies that work to minimize the risks of gun danger. One is "everyone has guns", the other is "no one has guns". Anywhere inbetween won't work, and that's why America has such a high rate of gun-related problems compared to everywhere else, which goes closer to the "no one has guns" approach (while in America, many people have guns but it's far from everyone).
Well the no one has guns isn't exactly working out as the cities with very low gun ownership have lots of gun related murders, since lawful citizens can't get them but criminals can illegally.
Check this statistic out:
https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/09/11/uk-violent-crime-rate-eight-times-higher-than-the-us/
Maybe we have more gun violence but they have 8 times the amount of other crime than us, and they have very little guns.
The no one has guns approach will not work unless every single gun is somehow redundant and does not fire at all, which is not possible.

Violent crime rate includes people being punched in the face, kicked, pepper-sprayed, etc...

Would you rather get punched or shot at?
Well of course I'd rather be punched but I'd rather not be assaulted at all, if I was carrying and drew my weapon then the assaulter will likely run away as usually they just have knives or just fists to try to rob you with. I'd like to point out that violent crime includes things like knives which are also lethal.

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February 23, 2015, 01:55:37 PM
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"It's always better to have a gun and need it, than not have a gun and not need it."  Little off topic but one of my favourite lines from Trailor Park Boys (who do accept bitcoin).
And what would you do? If they are robbers they will get their guns before you do, if they are more than one you can't do nothing about it.


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February 23, 2015, 02:14:47 PM
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By the looks of it that guy had his femoral artery or vein slashed and is bleeding out all over his leg and the ground. I wouldn't consider that funny at all. I honestly hope the guy lived...
That is clearly urine running down his leg, there was no slashing involved.

"It's always better to have a gun and need it, than not have a gun and not need it."  one of my favourite lines from Trailor Park Boys
Trailer Park Boys pushing an ignorant redneck pro-gun agenda, what a surprise.

If your assailant comes up behind you with ANY weapon, your gun is worthless.
If your assailant puts his weapon to the head or throat of you or one of your loved one, your gun is worthless.
If your assailant catches you while you're sleeping, your gun is worthless.
If your assailants outnumber you, your gun is worthless.

If (one of) your assailant(s) is frightened into discharging his firearm when you draw yours, your gun could get you killed.
If your assailant doesn't at first notice that you have a gun because it's concealed, your gun could get you killed.
If the police arrive and mistake you for one of the criminals, your gun could get you killed.
If you fire on your assailant and fail to kill with the first one or two shots, your gun could get you killed.
If you fire your weapon and kill your assailant, your gun could land you in prison.
If you fire your weapon and kill some other poor bastard, your gun WILL land you in prison.

On the other hand, if you simply hand over your wallet to your assailant, you are pretty much guaranteed to get away unharmed.
I would rather have pepperspray over a gun in 99 out of 100 situations involving an armed criminal.

Literally the ONLY situation in which I'd rather have a gun is if my assailant intends to kill me from the outset. I'm a nice guy, so that's pretty fucking far fetched.

Do I really need to go on?

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February 23, 2015, 02:36:33 PM
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Easy fix. Open carry and trade in a public place with lots of cameras. Criminals are stupid but they aren't that stupid.

Since NY citizens don't have the same rights as normal people (and can't carry the tools required to protect themselves), I suggest they trade in the police station lobby.



The gif is funny Cheesy

Anyways it's quite easy to avoid these circumstances , just deal in a public place and don't carry much in single wallet
But if you're out of luck , you will get robbed anyway Undecided

By the looks of it that guy had his femoral artery or vein slashed and is bleeding out all over his leg and the ground. I wouldn't consider that funny at all. I honestly hope the guy lived...

Femoral artery?!!!  Geez way to take a gif WAAYYYYY out of context, dude!   Cheesy

The guy is clearing pissing himself, touching his wallet with pee, and touching the dollars in the wallet with pee, thus disgusting the robber in the process.

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February 23, 2015, 03:26:34 PM
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If you sell Bitcoin to individuals in person, be very careful! People are being mugged for their Bitcoin at gunpoint. http://observer.com/2015/02/bitcoin-crime-wave-breaks-out-in-nyc/
i don't see the difference between trading bitcoin and trading any other stuff, if you sell any kind of stuff to a shady person in a non-public place you are gonna get mugged and you deserve it for not using your brain!

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February 23, 2015, 10:40:38 PM
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Easy fix. Open carry and trade in a public place with lots of cameras. Criminals are stupid but they aren't that stupid.

Since NY citizens don't have the same rights as normal people (and can't carry the tools required to protect themselves), I suggest they trade in the police station lobby.



The gif is funny Cheesy

Anyways it's quite easy to avoid these circumstances , just deal in a public place and don't carry much in single wallet
But if you're out of luck , you will get robbed anyway Undecided

By the looks of it that guy had his femoral artery or vein slashed and is bleeding out all over his leg and the ground. I wouldn't consider that funny at all. I honestly hope the guy lived...

Femoral artery?!!!  Geez way to take a gif WAAYYYYY out of context, dude!   Cheesy

The guy is clearing pissing himself, touching his wallet with pee, and touching the dollars in the wallet with pee, thus disgusting the robber in the process.

I agree, he wouldn't stay upright bleeding that fast.

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February 23, 2015, 10:48:26 PM
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That gif is really sad, Its inhumane to slash someone like that only for a few dollars.

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February 23, 2015, 10:52:54 PM
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disagree that its like the wild west, cause NYC residents can't legally bear arms so they are forced being victims by law

still better being mugged by a privateer than government officials like happened to  Shrem, the BurtW guy or the guys in Florida  Embarrassed

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February 23, 2015, 10:54:02 PM
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I can't really tell what was in that gif but I have to say that if the man was carrying a gun, and he drew it while he was told to draw his wallet, I guarantee you the robber would have run away, because with the knife he would have had to jump forward, which doesn't immediately stun/stop them and the man could have easily pulled the trigger in the time he was lunging at him.

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February 23, 2015, 10:57:57 PM
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That gif is really sad, Its inhumane to slash someone like that only for a few dollars.
Precisely what quantity of wealth makes it humane to slash someone? Damn capitalists and their twisted mental gymnastics.

When will we learn that life is priceless?

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February 23, 2015, 11:56:29 PM
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i tried to buy from someone in nyc on localbitcoins yesterday and he was afraid to meet up because he didnt know me lol

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February 24, 2015, 12:06:53 AM
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The only way to be safe(r) from gun violence is to wear one of these everywhere you go:



Some relevant facts:



That's an explosives suit, not a bullet proof vest.

You did not present any "facts", just hype.  You're more likely to be killed in a car crash if you drive a car, you're more likely to drown if you swim a lot.  You're more likely to be taken seriously if you present an argument and back it up with actual facts and sources.
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February 24, 2015, 12:43:21 AM
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You're more likely to be taken seriously if you present an argument and back it up with actual facts and sources.

Fact: More guns means more gun murders and more gun suicides. The Harvard Injury Control Research Center has accumulated a considerable body of evidence about the relationship between gun availability and gun violence, concluding that more guns means more gun murders and more gun suicides.

Homicides committed with firearms peaked in 1993 at 17,075, after which the figure steadily fell, reaching a low of 10,117 in 1999. Gun ownership during this same period of time has steadily declined.

http://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/gun-violence/Pages/welcome.aspx loads of facts for you here, but you may not like them.

I think this is pretty telling, the states with stricter gun laws and less guns per household have significantly lower mortality rates. Must be a coincidence, huh? Just like nations with stricter gun laws...



Are you rednecks done denying reality yet, or do you need more factual ass-whooping? Maybe if you pray hard enough, cowboy jesus will descend from heaven and shoot me down with his pearly white colt .45.

Probably not though.

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February 24, 2015, 01:15:10 AM
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This is not news.  They even rob cash at gun point.  Another article trying to degrade bitcoin


 
 
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February 24, 2015, 01:40:15 AM
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There are a lot of obvious solutions. Namely well populated, open areas with good lighting. It doesn't hurt bringing a friend along as well. Or simply meet at the police station.
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Are you rednecks done denying reality yet, or do you need more factual ass-whooping?
Yeah, I thought not.

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February 24, 2015, 05:07:36 AM
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Are you rednecks done denying reality yet, or do you need more factual ass-whooping?
Yeah, I thought not.
Lol your facts were proven wrong and so far you haven't provided any facts whatsoever, so your "factual ass-whooping" obviously hasn't came yet.

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There are a lot of obvious solutions. Namely well populated, open areas with good lighting. It doesn't hurt bringing a friend along as well. Or simply meet at the police station.

Probably, the buyer was known to the seller from the previous trades and he had some trust on him. He just got a bit careless. Can't blame the guy.

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February 24, 2015, 08:19:41 PM
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Seems like very thuggish behavior. Surprising to see this sort of behavior coming from Bitcoiners - who usually tend to be intelligent, nerdier-type people. Most Bitcoiners would probably make better use of their time and skills by hacking computers, running botnets, coding viruses, exploiting security holes in exchanges, etc. or, you know, running a legitimate business or offering a legitimate service - than stealing via force and physical violence.
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