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February 22, 2015, 03:34:50 AM
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He gave me negative trust because I lost interest in his account... major abuse of the default trust system
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February 22, 2015, 04:19:39 AM
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February 22, 2015, 05:43:42 AM
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Negative trust feedback left by Quickseller:

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Canadianbitcoins agreed to purchase an item from me for .34 and he requested to use escrow, which I agreed to. Once an escrow address was provided by the escrow service Canadianbitcoins delayed sending bitcoin to escrow and eventually disappeared, leading me to believe that he was hoping to entice me to send what was being sold to him first without escrow. I would trade with extreme caution with this person and only deal with escrow when dealing with him

See the underlined part. He is warning others who want to trade with you to use escrow. You do understand why he put it.

Proof of this?

I hope you aren't spamming for that sig. You can see it easily by checking his trust : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=447475.

   -MZ

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February 22, 2015, 06:09:23 AM
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He gave me negative trust because I lost interest in his account... major abuse of the default trust system

Well then you shouldn't of "disappeared".  It's your fault. Only he can remove it.

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February 22, 2015, 11:43:42 AM
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He gave me negative trust because I lost interest in his account... major abuse of the default trust system
It's something that is probably deemed untrustworthy by many, if you didn't disappear and explained the issue why you couldn't send the Bitcoin, then he may of been more lenient. Your best bet is to contact him, maybe he will change it to a neutral with a warning to others.

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February 22, 2015, 12:10:44 PM
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He gave me negative trust because I lost interest in his account... major abuse of the default trust system

I cannot blame him due to You being a Newbie that when an Escrow was agreed disappeared.

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Canadianbitcoins agreed to purchase an item from me for .34 and he requested to use escrow, which I agreed to. Once an escrow address was provided by the escrow service Canadianbitcoins delayed sending bitcoin to escrow and eventually disappeared, leading me to believe that he was hoping to entice me to send what was being sold to him first without escrow. I would trade with extreme caution with this person and only deal with escrow when dealing with him

This behaviour set off lots of alarm bells due to being a common scammer reaction. If You're really honest and only mismanaged your communication with him, You're better explaining yourself to him with a PM and apologize. Maybe if you're convincing enough he would turn is feedback to neutral to being only informative to Others without affecting your trust score.

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February 22, 2015, 02:11:23 PM
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Lol I never asked him to send first.... this guy needs to get off of bitcoin talk and get some pussy
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February 22, 2015, 02:16:12 PM
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Lol I never asked him to send first.... this guy needs to get off of bitcoin talk and get some pussy

Perhaps this is advice that you could also use.  Grin

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February 22, 2015, 02:22:02 PM
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Lol I never asked him to send first.... this guy needs to get off of bitcoin talk and get some pussy

Perhaps this is advice that you could also use.  Grin

Im not sure our feline overlords are the solution here. IMHO OP needs to understand that this behaviour is at least shady. You dont just leave in the middle of a deal without any notice and or explanation.

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February 22, 2015, 04:14:37 PM
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OP, this behavior was very shady. You should have sent a PM to  Quickseller saying that you have lost interest/cannot pay, and worked it out from there.

Lol I never asked him to send first.... this guy needs to get off of bitcoin talk and get some pussy

Well, this just ruined your chance of getting your negative trust removed.
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February 22, 2015, 04:23:54 PM
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Lol I never asked him to send first.... this guy needs to get off of bitcoin talk and get some pussy

Woah okay, that's definitely getting your trust removed.

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February 23, 2015, 01:11:25 AM
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Lol I never asked him to send first.... this guy needs to get off of bitcoin talk and get some pussy

Woah okay, that's definitely getting your trust removed.

Yeah, true, but put urself in this guys shoes if hes being honest about loosing interes. Atleast one could put in neutral trust, that would be enough.
Innocent until proven guilty, right?

cheers

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February 23, 2015, 01:40:34 AM
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Lol I never asked him to send first.... this guy needs to get off of bitcoin talk and get some pussy

Woah okay, that's definitely getting your trust removed.

Yeah, true, but put urself in this guys shoes if hes being honest about loosing interes. Atleast one could put in neutral trust, that would be enough.
Innocent until proven guilty, right?

cheers

Yeah, but he handled the situation improperly, he should have PM'ed Quickseller saying that he had lost interest instead of disappearing. It's now up to Quickseller if he wants to change this guy's feedback to neutral or not.
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February 23, 2015, 03:23:12 AM
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Lol I never asked him to send first.... this guy needs to get off of bitcoin talk and get some pussy

Woah okay, that's definitely getting your trust removed.

Yeah, true, but put urself in this guys shoes if hes being honest about loosing interes. Atleast one could put in neutral trust, that would be enough.
Innocent until proven guilty, right?

cheers

Yeah, but he handled the situation improperly, he should have PM'ed Quickseller saying that he had lost interest instead of disappearing. It's now up to Quickseller if he wants to change this guy's feedback to neutral or not.
His prices were too high I found cheaper sellers. I never once asked him to send first, this guy's a wasteman
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February 23, 2015, 03:44:57 AM
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Negative trust feedback left by Quickseller:

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Canadianbitcoins agreed to purchase an item from me for .34 and he requested to use escrow, which I agreed to. Once an escrow address was provided by the escrow service Canadianbitcoins delayed sending bitcoin to escrow and eventually disappeared, leading me to believe that he was hoping to entice me to send what was being sold to him first without escrow. I would trade with extreme caution with this person and only deal with escrow when dealing with him

See the underlined part. He is warning others who want to trade with you to use escrow. You do understand why he put it.

Proof of this?

I hope you aren't spamming for that sig. You can see it easily by checking his trust : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=447475.

   -MZ

I see that bright guy but without any reference it's one word against the other. There should be more proof to such accusations.

Hope you aren't spamming for that sig.
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February 23, 2015, 05:10:59 AM
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Negative trust feedback left by Quickseller:

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Canadianbitcoins agreed to purchase an item from me for .34 and he requested to use escrow, which I agreed to. Once an escrow address was provided by the escrow service Canadianbitcoins delayed sending bitcoin to escrow and eventually disappeared, leading me to believe that he was hoping to entice me to send what was being sold to him first without escrow. I would trade with extreme caution with this person and only deal with escrow when dealing with him

See the underlined part. He is warning others who want to trade with you to use escrow. You do understand why he put it.

Proof of this?

I hope you aren't spamming for that sig. You can see it easily by checking his trust : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=447475.

   -MZ

I see that bright guy but without any reference it's one word against the other. There should be more proof to such accusations.

Hope you aren't spamming for that sig.
A PM dump can be done if you do not value my word over the OP's.

It should however be clear that the OP did abandon a deal as he essentially admitted to doing so:
He gave me negative trust because I lost interest in his account... major abuse of the default trust system
Nor has he denied the allegation in the trust that I left him.

Additionally it should be clear to everyone that the OP is not a newbie account as he went straight to meta when he saw that I gave him negative trust.

I would say on good authority that the OP is likely an alt of SellingHBOGo or if not then someone pretending to be him, although at this point I am not able to publicly say why. This is not speculation and such conclusion was made using BTC addresses that are known to be "owned" by SellingHBOGo

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February 23, 2015, 05:15:51 AM
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This is a new account with only 5 activity so I really would just trash the account and start over, but also on the otherhand the negative feedback is not just since he didn't actually scam you or anyone. Maybe he lost interest in the account, maybe he gambled his money away, I have no idea, but something like not sending money to an escrow, or not buying something that you agreed on buying (changed his mind etc.) has no grounds for accusing of scammer.

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February 23, 2015, 05:29:27 AM
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This is a new account with only 5 activity so I really would just trash the account and start over, but also on the otherhand the negative feedback is not just since he didn't actually scam you or anyone. Maybe he lost interest in the account, maybe he gambled his money away, I have no idea, but something like not sending money to an escrow, or not buying something that you agreed on buying (changed his mind etc.) has no grounds for accusing of scammer.
Like I said above I have it on good authority that he is SellingHBOGo

Additionally agreeing to use escrow and then disappearing once escrow is setup is a common tactic that scammers use, as they hope their counterparty decides that they don't want to "wait" for escrow

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February 23, 2015, 06:22:56 AM
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This is a new account with only 5 activity so I really would just trash the account and start over, but also on the otherhand the negative feedback is not just since he didn't actually scam you or anyone. Maybe he lost interest in the account, maybe he gambled his money away, I have no idea, but something like not sending money to an escrow, or not buying something that you agreed on buying (changed his mind etc.) has no grounds for accusing of scammer.

You're wrong! -ve trust feedback can be rightly handed over EVEN IF a scam didn't actually happened because rules stated: "Negative - You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer." (see below)



OP fleeing the deal w/o further communication could be both a miscommunication or the common scammer behaviour. Also, Quickseller seems to have access to BTC-address of OP that were previously associated with a known scammer.

This is a new account with only 5 activity so I really would just trash the account and start over, but also on the otherhand the negative feedback is not just since he didn't actually scam you or anyone. Maybe he lost interest in the account, maybe he gambled his money away, I have no idea, but something like not sending money to an escrow, or not buying something that you agreed on buying (changed his mind etc.) has no grounds for accusing of scammer.
Like I said above I have it on good authority that he is SellingHBOGo

Additionally agreeing to use escrow and then disappearing once escrow is setup is a common tactic that scammers use, as they hope their counterparty decides that they don't want to "wait" for escrow

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February 23, 2015, 07:16:28 AM
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Like I said above I have it on good authority that he is SellingHBOGo

Indeed he is, good catch.

A significant number of the recent posts about default trust are scammer alts, I even have reason to suspect one a while back was an alt of TF, though I can't confirm it beyond a reasonable doubt.


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