The Forum is Dying

[BitcoinEXpress]

The only thing more predicted than the death of this forum has been the death of bitcoin itself.

This has to be thread #99 on this subject I know of since 2010 in these forums.


~BCX~

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[freedomno1]

There are often quiet moments on this forum, I don't think it has died at all, there just isn't anything very exciting going on, if you see any spam posts just report them and move on, if Bitcoin rises again or does something you can expect people to spam the fuck out of this place.

Sounds about right could call this a tranquil period in the forum where a declining Bitcoin price and a ton of altcoin chatter has shifted the chat a bit, the influx of new users and their tech levels is also dropping a bit due to mainstream effects but it's a good thing overall.

This has to be thread #99 on this subject I know of since 2010 in these forums.
~BCX~

True enough but not often do we see it in meta

[BitcoinDistributor]

I know me personally, I haven't held bitcoin overnight in months and don't plan to anytime soon. As for forum use, I come on, but only for business-purposes to convert payments I've received in bitcoin to fiat. I got into bitcoin beginning of 2013 and once it hit $300 (on way up) is when I said overpriced and got out.

This nicely shows your bearish attitude. You don't hold bitcoin and immediately get rid of the ones you come upon. If you sold all you had for $300 you missed about 12 months of higher prices. No wonder you became bitter. There's a lot of people like you in here, especially in the speculation subforum. Maybe they can comfort you  

It is not that I am bearish or bullish, my problem is the liquidity issue and price variance this currency has now. No longer can someone sell 10,000 BTC at once and only move the currency 1% or whatever. Now if someone were to try to sell that much it would instantly drop all 13,000,000 or however many bitcoin are around now down at least 10%. I can't be in something where less then 1% of the total population being sold causes at least a 10% drop in the overall value of the entire population.

The liquidity isn't there anymore and neither is the stability. Although I will say for the last week this has been the most stable bitcoin has been in a long time. If there was higher volume instead of much much lower then usual volume then I'd actually consider buying a short-term call option in this situation.

Anyways, just my thoughts on bitcoin. I do need to make a purchase though so right now even with my bearish attitude as you say I am trying to acquire ~$650 of the currency (at whatever current market price is whether it be $1 or $1000).

[bitgeek]

People are afraid to keep money on exchanges after all the hacks and thefts. This means there's less open orders and a dump can move the price deeper, but I wouldn't worry about it too much. The coins are still being held, but instead of making fake walls they rest safely in their owners' wallets.
It's good to hear you're buying, maybe you're not so bearish after all

[RodeoX]

Hopefully people are realizing that coming here and asking "What computer buttons do I press to get rich?" is a useless exercise. If we are lucky the price will creep up slowly enough to stay out of the news. 

[TECSHARE]

The number of new users registered this month is at it's highest rate since March 2014, when it was at a all time high.

This couldn't have anything to do with the fact that Theymos removed the newbie jail now could it? Nah.

[Muhammed Zakir]

The number of new users registered this month is at it's highest rate since March 2014, when it was at a all time high.

This couldn't have anything to do with the fact that Theymos removed the newbie jail now could it? Nah.

What is the point of 'newbie jail' here? Are you making some sort of ironic sentence? IMHO theymos did right thing.

   -MZ

[carlosiness]

forum activity is related to cryptocurencies popularity/power..

[TECSHARE]

The number of new users registered this month is at it's highest rate since March 2014, when it was at a all time high.

This couldn't have anything to do with the fact that Theymos removed the newbie jail now could it? Nah.

What is the point of 'newbie jail' here? Are you making some sort of ironic sentence? IMHO theymos did right thing.

   -MZ

Not really sure what you are getting at. I am not even trying to debate whether it was a good or bad idea. My point is that increased registrations are a result of the removal of "newbie jail" and the corresponding farming of accounts, not because of genuine forum activity picking up.

[Quickseller]

The number of new users registered this month is at it's highest rate since March 2014, when it was at a all time high.

This couldn't have anything to do with the fact that Theymos removed the newbie jail now could it? Nah.

I am sure it does have to do with the lack of newbie jail but that was removed a long time ago, over a year (?) now.

[Muhammed Zakir]

Not really sure what you are getting at. I am not even trying to debate whether it was a good or bad idea. My point is that increased registrations are a result of the removal of "newbie jail" and the corresponding farming of accounts, not because of genuine forum activity picking up.

I am sure it does have to do with the lack of newbie jail but that was removed a long time ago, over a year (?) now.

I am not in a debate too. Yes, you both are right but IMHO now newbies can go straight into the thing they want, Technical Support, Dev & Tech Discussion, Services etc... and yes they can start a scam too. They are like a coin with two sides, almost everything has both advantage and disadvantage.

    -MZ

[dogie]

Not really sure what you are getting at. I am not even trying to debate whether it was a good or bad idea. My point is that increased registrations are a result of the removal of "newbie jail" and the corresponding farming of accounts, not because of genuine forum activity picking up.

I am sure it does have to do with the lack of newbie jail but that was removed a long time ago, over a year (?) now.

I am not in a debate too. Yes, you both are right but IMHO now newbies can go straight into the thing they want, Technical Support, Dev & Tech Discussion, Services etc... and yes they can start a scam too. They are like a coin with two sides, almost everything has both advantage and disadvantage.

    -MZ

And newbie jail didn't protect against that, it just delayed them a few days. I remember I graduated newbie jail pretty quickly.

[Wardrick]

This made me think of the rise and fall in popularity of Texas Hold Em'. I remember a few years back it was taking off because of all the hype and then it slowly started dying down until now where it's stayed pretty stable. People realized that you couldn't just start playing and make a bunch of money. Hopefully BTC won't suffer the same fate, however I think if the price fluctuation of Bitcoin continues that it eventually will. It would be interesting to see the percentages of what people are actually using Bitcoin for.

[Gleb Gamow]

This page here shows the number of new signups and new posts per month:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats

There has been a noticeable drop the past few months, but I guess it's due to the end of bubble-mania.

As stated, I stumbled upon this fact by accident, unrelated to anything I've read on this forum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=970562.0

[hilariousandco]

And newbie jail didn't protect against that, it just delayed them a few days. I remember I graduated newbie jail pretty quickly.

A few days? I think it was initially four hours browsing time and few posts but then was reduced to just one post I think before being removed completely. There are pros and cons to it but it probably turned many users away instantly and only confined the spam to beginners and help for a short while before they quickly broke free.

[freedomno1]

And newbie jail didn't protect against that, it just delayed them a few days. I remember I graduated newbie jail pretty quickly.

A few days? I think it was initially four hours browsing time and few posts but then was reduced to just one post I think before being removed completely. There are pros and cons to it but it probably turned many users away instantly and only confined the spam to beginners and help for a short while before they quickly broke free.

Newbie jail was a long hell
Remembers it was a four hour accumulated browsing time, with post limitations directly related to the accumulated browsing time
It took a while to get out of that status too  (Although Dogie might have lurked a lot so it was fast as heck to get out of if you were reading topics XD)
Anyways it held back a lot of users at the same time it was a damn effective spam filter, the effect might be less now though considering how many accounts have broken through newbie jail since it was last implemented.
(Aka past it a while ago and are on standby)

The main benefit was that the conversations were usually of a higher level since people had to read and learn, then after a while gain the experience and knowledge to actually participate in conversations.
Also lot less stupid questions since people learned how to use the quick search since they couldn't just ask away

[PenguinFire]

I am a newbie and I didn't go straight for the buying/selling/services board.   

[chaosknight]

i agree that forum is getting more spam and scammers, admin should add extra security for new registration and enable limitation for newbies
if possible then stop the new registration for few months as changing avatar is stopped

[BitCoinNutJob]

If you look around you'll see the signs...

-currency exchange section is slower then ever.
-posts are becoming more and more spam-like
-people are selling their accounts left and right
-the overall mood just doesn't seem positive anymore

To address some points:

The posts in certain sections are still high quality, even on reddit bitcoin you get a ton of BS posts.

More people have acounts with higher activity then ever before so the supply is up as time has gone by.

The mood is a little low overall due to the biggest bear market in bitcoin history lets not forget.

Another point would be the eco system has spread out so perhaps a certain % communicate about bitcoin on other platforms.

[medUSA]

The Forum is Dying

I admit their are too many FUD/spam posts everyday, the forum is not dying. There are still good quality posts and discussions going on, you need to dig deep and look for them.

I am sure it does have to do with the lack of newbie jail but that was removed a long time ago, over a year (?) now.

I agree. I went through newbie jail, hated it at the time, it was useful. The lack of newbie jail makes it so easy to register an army of alts and make the whole forum a spamming playground.