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March 06, 2015, 01:04:34 AM
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It's hard to think of a way to make this work. I've found that most faucets say they have a referral program, but most of them don't send money to your wallet. The only way would be tofind an account that has no other refs, and share what I earn from you with you. So if I earn 1000 sats because you clicked a faucet, I would give you a percentage of that. But you would need to be sure the faucet didn't erase the ref earnings when paying them. You'd have to do lots of experimenting to find one that works right.


It's well understood on both sides that trying to make this work will take some experimenting. The ultimate goal is instead of 1 person making money and 1 other person making money, both have decided to work out a deal so they both end up making more money. Most logical way to do this is sharing everything based on how much each person puts in (money wise and work wise). Referrals don't really allow for such in their structure, hence asking for an investment up front.

If the above auction seems ludicrous, I already have an idea of what doesn't work for people. I'm also up against the "no trust, newbie, possibly scam artist" scenarios. In considering this a business partnership that makes both partners money, you have to start somewhere. You have to earn trust.

1,000,00 satoshis is a lot to make from faucets ! He will likely make an other account to have himself as a referrer.

Or maybe there are a number of interested parties who want to see how this works out and may play a part. And/Or 1,000,000 satoshis from a low paying faucet is simply unrealistic and the numbers have to be adjusted.
   
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March 06, 2015, 01:38:06 AM
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I'll just make a deal. My refer stuff for freebit (the link in my signature) will pay you 10% of the 50% that you win per roll(5% of your roll will come back to you).
say you win 1BTC, I get .5BTC(the 50% comission) and 10% comes to you (.05BTC)
The setting is set at "Share amount based on referral activity since last payout".
I can get the same deal on freedoge if you'd like.

I'll sleep on it. Meanwhile if anyone else out there feels they can do better than this, I'm all ears.

Won't be back on the board for around 15 hours.

Alright. I've slept on it. I have a counter offer.

We start with freedoge. I sign up as your referral. Same terms as stated above.

We agree on a probation period. If I've made you a "reasonable" sum via my actions on freedoge during said probation period, we open negotiations for a new deal for my signing up as your referral on freebit, with a higher percentage earned by me, and a sign-on bonus/payment to retain me as your referral until a future date or amount of bitcoin I earn you has been reached.

I keep everyone aware on the thread of our activity in regards to this deal, either on this thread or another I create for this sole purpose. If we cannot come to an agreement surrounding my signing up as a referral on freebit, I field other offers or return to renegotiate at a later date. Either way, you still have me as a referral on freedoge.

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March 06, 2015, 04:22:56 AM
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I'll just make a deal. My refer stuff for freebit (the link in my signature) will pay you 10% of the 50% that you win per roll(5% of your roll will come back to you).
say you win 1BTC, I get .5BTC(the 50% comission) and 10% comes to you (.05BTC)
The setting is set at "Share amount based on referral activity since last payout".
I can get the same deal on freedoge if you'd like.

I'll sleep on it. Meanwhile if anyone else out there feels they can do better than this, I'm all ears.

Won't be back on the board for around 15 hours.

Alright. I've slept on it. I have a counter offer.

We start with freedoge. I sign up as your referral. Same terms as stated above.

We agree on a probation period. If I've made you a "reasonable" sum via my actions on freedoge during said probation period, we open negotiations for a new deal for my signing up as your referral on freebit, with a higher percentage earned by me, and a sign-on bonus/payment to retain me as your referral until a future date or amount of bitcoin I earn you has been reached.

I keep everyone aware on the thread of our activity in regards to this deal, either on this thread or another I create for this sole purpose. If we cannot come to an agreement surrounding my signing up as a referral on freebit, I field other offers or return to renegotiate at a later date. Either way, you still have me as a referral on freedoge.

What say you?   
I'll stick to my offer as it is one of the only offers I've seen you get. It is much a better share than the top 10 referers do on freebit maybe over time I can bump to the 20% mark. But for now this is one offer that'll be out there

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March 06, 2015, 06:09:40 AM
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I'll just make a deal. My refer stuff for freebit (the link in my signature) will pay you 10% of the 50% that you win per roll(5% of your roll will come back to you).
say you win 1BTC, I get .5BTC(the 50% comission) and 10% comes to you (.05BTC)
The setting is set at "Share amount based on referral activity since last payout".
I can get the same deal on freedoge if you'd like.

I'll sleep on it. Meanwhile if anyone else out there feels they can do better than this, I'm all ears.

Won't be back on the board for around 15 hours.

Alright. I've slept on it. I have a counter offer.

We start with freedoge. I sign up as your referral. Same terms as stated above.

We agree on a probation period. If I've made you a "reasonable" sum via my actions on freedoge during said probation period, we open negotiations for a new deal for my signing up as your referral on freebit, with a higher percentage earned by me, and a sign-on bonus/payment to retain me as your referral until a future date or amount of bitcoin I earn you has been reached.

I keep everyone aware on the thread of our activity in regards to this deal, either on this thread or another I create for this sole purpose. If we cannot come to an agreement surrounding my signing up as a referral on freebit, I field other offers or return to renegotiate at a later date. Either way, you still have me as a referral on freedoge.

What say you?   
I'll stick to my offer as it is one of the only offers I've seen you get. It is much a better share than the top 10 referers do on freebit maybe over time I can bump to the 20% mark. But for now this is one offer that'll be out there

So far I have it setup as is, I have two people that are on my referral so far. I have and will keep it set to this payout as is, unless you prove a good amount of activity is going on over say two weeks. If not, I'll stick to my original plan (5% back on each roll).

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March 07, 2015, 04:45:55 PM
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Would you be interested in doing it for a different account? like boxbit.co.in

Absolutely. Let's talk business. Private message me. If this auction isn't appealing to people then it just wont work, but if someone wants to reach out to me otherwise and make offers I am open to hear them.


How committed would you be to doing the tasks on these sights that we refer you to?
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March 17, 2015, 04:20:06 AM
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So far I have it setup as is, I have two people that are on my referral so far. I have and will keep it set to this payout as is, unless you prove a good amount of activity is going on over say two weeks. If not, I'll stick to my original plan (5% back on each roll).


2 Things ezeminer: 1, I've been really busy these past two weeks due to a move, and family matters. 2, I'm more than willing to start acting as your referral as long as you're willing to not hold me to the past 10 days as an indicator of my activity. Let's start Wednesday.

How committed would you be to doing the tasks on these sights that we refer you to?

As an answer to your question, that pretty much depends on what your offer is. I'm not just going to sign up as your referral. Anyone can do that. I'm trying to work out a deal that is mutually beneficial. You'll know how committed I am by seeing the activity on the blockchain regarding my bitcoin address or the bitcoin address that pays out from that service. If I'm your referral to a service, you'll already know what it looks like if I'm active. If you decide I'm not active or "committed" enough, I either get back in your favor by increasing my activity, or our partnership ends and you make no more money off of me. However, the more committed I am, the more business partnerships I may find myself in. So it only makes sense I'd be committed if it leads to more.

  
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March 17, 2015, 05:33:35 AM
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So far I have it setup as is, I have two people that are on my referral so far. I have and will keep it set to this payout as is, unless you prove a good amount of activity is going on over say two weeks. If not, I'll stick to my original plan (5% back on each roll).
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2 Things ezeminer: 1, I've been really busy these past two weeks due to a move, and family matters. 2, I'm more than willing to start acting as your referral as long as you're willing to not hold me to the past 10 days as an indicator of my activity. Let's start Wednesday.

How about this. we agree to 50/50 of referral commission split. I felt happy go lucky a week ago and bumped that to 10% bonus for every roll you make. Reason being my signature now says 10% bonus. We can make it 50/50 for freebit and freedoge and that would be more than fair in my opinion.
That would be 25% bonus per roll at a constant payout per week. We can also negotiate terms at 50/50 for any referral site you would like.
If you agree, just use my signature. If not, I don't think I'll bargain any further.

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March 17, 2015, 09:11:25 PM
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How about this. we agree to 50/50 of referral commission split. I felt happy go lucky a week ago and bumped that to 10% bonus for every roll you make. Reason being my signature now says 10% bonus. We can make it 50/50 for freebit and freedoge and that would be more than fair in my opinion.
That would be 25% bonus per roll at a constant payout per week. We can also negotiate terms at 50/50 for any referral site you would like.
If you agree, just use my signature. If not, I don't think I'll bargain any further.

Agreed. Congratulations ezeminer! You just got me as your referral for freebitco.in. Unless someone offers better than a 50% referral commission split on freedoge.co.in on this thread before the automatic payout occurs at just over 4 days and 15 hours from now, I'll use your referral link to become your referral for freedoge.co.in as well.

That 50/50 referral offer for future sites is a great starting point and automatically makes you the go-to for being my referrer. Unless someone else offers something better than that, you're pretty much the "high" bidder.

That being said, I'm open to entertaining offers via this thread.

For those interested in tracking my activity/level of commitment, I'll be posting the bitcoin wallet address here shortly that I'm using for these services.
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March 17, 2015, 09:54:52 PM
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I'll pay you to be my referral on BoxBitcoin. I don't know how they keep track of ref earnings - ie if they get reset to zero after each payout, so it may be better to do a flat rate rather than a percentage.

I'll pay you 25,000 satoshis. If I earn 50,000 from you in referral earnings, I'll repeat the payments as long as we want. That means you are getting 50% of my referral earnings paid back to you.

Interested?

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March 17, 2015, 09:58:17 PM
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question is if we bid, and you become our referral and we pay you btc.

then you bail then what? we have a dead referral plus you pocketed the auction bid.
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March 17, 2015, 10:35:27 PM
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question is if we bid, and you become our referral and we pay you btc.

then you bail then what? we have a dead referral plus you pocketed the auction bid.

You're absolutely right. If I bail, it's bad for you. You have to realize however that it is bad for me as well. If I bail once then no one else will be willing to bid on my being a referral because I'm not worth it.

My advice to you is to wait. See how I perform before you're willing to part with btc. It's far more lucrative for the both of us if I do as I say and build up a reputation of trust.
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March 17, 2015, 10:52:07 PM
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I just have to say how dumb this is...lol

Referrals are a dime a dozen for faucet / ptc sites.

Now if you were an active trader at a forex site,

or you were a big promoter for a site with 2+ level downline...

I would most definitely pay to have you as a referral...

You aren't either of those things are you?
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March 19, 2015, 05:02:26 PM
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I'll pay you 25,000 satoshis. If I earn 50,000 from you in referral earnings, I'll repeat the payments as long as we want. That means you are getting 50% of my referral earnings paid back to you.

Interested?

Sorry for the delayed response OmegaCollector.

I checked out boxbit.co.in's referral structure. By becoming your referral you would be making 20% of what I make. Your willing to split the referral earnings 50/50 is a good offer, but for me to earn you 50,000 Satoshis means I have to have earned myself 250,000 Satoshis first. It requires way too much of a time investment on my end before I see any payout from you.

How would you feel about paying me the 50% of the 20% I make you after each payout I withdraw from boxbit.co.in? This way I know you're standing by your deal and I'd be encouraged to keep making both you and I money. I'd provide you proof of the transaction and the wallet address it goes to so you'd know what amount of your earned referral satoshis are from me, although that info would probably be available to you under the referral stats.

If anyone else feels like offering a better deal, I remain open to offers. 
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March 19, 2015, 05:57:39 PM
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If you are the 3G address on freebit, payout will be in 3 days. Also I don't have anything on freedoge yet.

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March 19, 2015, 06:36:47 PM
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If you are the 3G address on freebit, payout will be in 3 days. Also I don't have anything on freedoge yet.

If no one comes up with a better offer than a 50/50 referral payment split by the payout in 3 days, I will sign up as your referral on freedoge with your offer soon after the payout.

 
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March 19, 2015, 11:06:05 PM
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I'll pay you 25,000 satoshis. If I earn 50,000 from you in referral earnings, I'll repeat the payments as long as we want. That means you are getting 50% of my referral earnings paid back to you.

Interested?

Sorry for the delayed response OmegaCollector.

I checked out boxbit.co.in's referral structure. By becoming your referral you would be making 20% of what I make. Your willing to split the referral earnings 50/50 is a good offer, but for me to earn you 50,000 Satoshis means I have to have earned myself 250,000 Satoshis first. It requires way too much of a time investment on my end before I see any payout from you.

How would you feel about paying me the 50% of the 20% I make you after each payout I withdraw from boxbit.co.in? This way I know you're standing by your deal and I'd be encouraged to keep making both you and I money. I'd provide you proof of the transaction and the wallet address it goes to so you'd know what amount of your earned referral satoshis are from me, although that info would probably be available to you under the referral stats.

If anyone else feels like offering a better deal, I remain open to offers. 



Well, I intended to pay you first, but your way works too. I'm certainly happy to pay you 50% of my ref earning everytime you withdraw money. We're going to have to go ahead and do it to see how the accounting on the site works, but I'm currently earning very good money from this site, so I'm sure you will too. My ref link is http://boxbit.co.in/?ref=1DTPwP7ZRSfMfCUoEtGh4gEC58uucsffRk

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March 20, 2015, 05:07:40 PM
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Well, I intended to pay you first, but your way works too. I'm certainly happy to pay you 50% of my ref earning everytime you withdraw money. We're going to have to go ahead and do it to see how the accounting on the site works, but I'm currently earning very good money from this site, so I'm sure you will too. My ref link is http://boxbit.co.in/?ref=1DTPwP7ZRSfMfCUoEtGh4gEC58uucsffRk


OmegaCollector, unless someone comes up with a better offer I'll sign up as your referral come Monday as the payout for Boxbit.co.in happens either Saturday or Sunday if ones balance is over 5500 satoshi and I want you and everyone else to have an accurate count as to how active I am.

Just to keep everyone on the same page, I'm slated to become Ezeminer's referral for freedoge.co.in in just over 1 day and 22 hours from now unless someone tops the offer on the table. I'm slated to become OmegaCollector's referral for boxbit.co.in come Monday unless someone tops the offer on the table.

I've deviated from the original structure of the auction as stated on the original post because it's far more productive if I mention a service I'm willing to sign up for, or someone mentions one they'd like me to sign up for. Ezeminer mentioned willing to negotiate a 50/50 referral earnings split on any referral site I'd like. That basically makes Ezeminer the bidder to beat or match from here on out unless they decline to have me sign up, or they are outbid, or they renege on the offer.
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March 22, 2015, 04:49:39 PM
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Thanks for the bonus satoshis on freebitco.in ezeminer! Because no one offered a better deal for freedoge.co.in,

Congratulations ezeminer! You just got me as a referral on freedoge.co.in! I'll be collecting my first free dogecoins shortly.

For those interested, here is the bitcoin address I'm using to get free satoshis from freebitco.in:
https://blockchain.info/address/3GSAZw5LgFKMjy2W1ZFN27BuTnd644UP4F


Well, I intended to pay you first, but your way works too. I'm certainly happy to pay you 50% of my ref earning everytime you withdraw money. We're going to have to go ahead and do it to see how the accounting on the site works, but I'm currently earning very good money from this site, so I'm sure you will too. My ref link is http://boxbit.co.in/?ref=1DTPwP7ZRSfMfCUoEtGh4gEC58uucsffRk


Congratulations OmegaCollector! You just got me as your referral on boxbit.co.in! I'll be posting the bitcoin address here upon receiving my first payout in about a week's time.

If anyone else is interested in having me sign up as their referrals for other services, make me an offer. So many faucets and casinos and such and no one's made any offers? ezeminer is going to make a killing off me.
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March 22, 2015, 05:24:36 PM
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What guarantees us that you'll actually do something?
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March 22, 2015, 06:12:32 PM
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What guarantees us that you'll actually do something?

What guarantees that anyone who signs up as your referral will actually do something?

I'm not offering a guarantee. What I'm offering you is an increased chance I'll make you more money than if I just randomly signed up as your referral, and an increased chance I'll keep making you money because the deal we negotiated is more lucrative than if I just randomly signed up as your referral.

If you don't trust me enough to offer me some satoshis up front before I even begin using a service as your referral, put an offer on the table and lets come to an agreement. The terms of the auction mentioned in the first post have already been mostly ignored.
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