Bitcoin Forum
June 25, 2024, 03:17:36 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: [1] 2 »  All
  Print  
Author Topic: Princeton Gives Bonus SAT Points to Blacks and Latinos, Penalizes Asians  (Read 1612 times)
saddampbuh (OP)
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1078
Merit: 1014


View Profile
February 26, 2015, 09:41:03 AM
 #1

apparently asians have white privilege now

Quote
LA Times:

Lee’s next slide shows three columns of numbers from a Princeton University study that tried to measure how race and ethnicity affect admissions by using SAT scores as a benchmark. It uses the term “bonus” to describe how many extra SAT points an applicant’s race is worth. She points to the first column.

African Americans received a “bonus” of 230 points, Lee says.

She points to the second column.

“Hispanics received a bonus of 185 points.”

The last column draws gasps.

Asian Americans, Lee says, are penalized by 50 points — in other words, they had to do that much better to win admission.

“Do Asians need higher test scores? Is it harder for Asians to get into college? The answer is yes,” Lee says.

http://www.dailystormer.com/princeton-university-gives-bonus-sat-points-to-blacks-and-latinos-penalizes-asians/

Be radical, have principles, be absolute, be that which the bourgeoisie calls an extremist: give yourself without counting or calculating, don't accept what they call ‘the reality of life' and act in such a way that you won't be accepted by that kind of ‘life', never abandon the principle of struggle.
pattu1
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 675
Merit: 500


View Profile
February 26, 2015, 02:01:49 PM
 #2

They are forced to enforce diversity. Smiley
WW3
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 45
Merit: 0


View Profile
February 26, 2015, 02:16:40 PM
 #3

They are forced to enforce diversity. Smiley

http://s3.postimg.org/8oanqg04j/rand_racism.jpg

More like willing to enforce collectivism.
manis
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 303
Merit: 250


View Profile
February 26, 2015, 03:28:35 PM
 #4

One way it is called racism.
The other way it is called affirmative action. Smiley
bryant.coleman
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3696
Merit: 1217


View Profile
February 26, 2015, 04:11:01 PM
 #5

One way it is called racism.
The other way it is called affirmative action. Smiley

Affirmative action will create a generation of fools, who will have their university degree by virtue of their race. These people will be incapable of making new innovations, and eventually other nations will overtake the United States in R&D as well as other sectors.
username18333
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 378
Merit: 250


Knowledge could but approximate existence.


View Profile WWW
February 26, 2015, 10:45:28 PM
Last edit: February 27, 2015, 04:28:19 AM by username18333
 #6

Quote from: Daniel T. Gilbert, Patrick S. Malone. “The Correspondence Bias.” A.P.A., 215. 22. 26 Feb. 235. link=http://www.wjh.harvard.edu/~dtg/Gilbert%20&%20Malone%20(CORRESPONDENCE%20BIAS).pdf
Attribution theory's fundamental distinction leads quite naturally to its fundamental rule: When a behavior occurs in the presence of a sufficiently strong, facilitative force, an observer should not infer that the actor is predisposed to perform that behavior. Just as one should not conclude that a balloon that rises on a windy day is filled with helium, one cannot make unequivocal inferences about the abilities of an athlete, the convictions of a politician, or the mental health of a student when poor lighting, a roomful of opinionated voters, or sudden bad news may have induced their behaviors. In other words, one should not explain with dispositions that which has already been explained by the situation. This logical rule was first formalized by Jones and Davis (1965) as the law of noncommon effects and later extended and codified by Kelley (1967) as the discounting principle, which warns observers not to attribute an effect to any one causal agent (e.g., a disposition) when another plausible causal agent (e.g., a situational force) is simultaneously present. In other words, when people do precisely what the physical environment or the social situation demands, dispositional inferences are logically unwarranted.
(Red colorization mine.)

Princeton has implemented an ad hoc “correction” for the varying upbringings of its prospective students.

Escape the plutocrats’ zanpakutō, Flower in the Mirror, Moon on the Water: brave “the ascent which is rough and steep” (Plato).
pattu1
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 675
Merit: 500


View Profile
February 27, 2015, 12:49:17 AM
 #7

One way it is called racism.
The other way it is called affirmative action. Smiley

Affirmative action will create a generation of fools, who will have their university degree by virtue of their race. These people will be incapable of making new innovations, and eventually other nations will overtake the United States in R&D as well as other sectors.

When you do apply for a job, your university degree is just one aspect they consider.
If employers are smart enough, they will choose only truly deserving candidates.
deepestfear
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 291
Merit: 250


View Profile
February 27, 2015, 06:13:02 AM
 #8

Enforced diversity is good up to a point, question is where to draw the line and let merit take over

username18333
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 378
Merit: 250


Knowledge could but approximate existence.


View Profile WWW
February 27, 2015, 06:22:45 AM
Last edit: February 27, 2015, 06:35:07 AM by username18333
 #9

Quote from: Daniel T. Gilbert, Patrick S. Malone. “The Correspondence Bias.” A.P.A., 215. 22. 26 Feb. 235. link=http://www.wjh.harvard.edu/~dtg/Gilbert%20&%20Malone%20(CORRESPONDENCE%20BIAS).pdf
Attribution theory's fundamental distinction leads quite naturally to its fundamental rule: When a behavior occurs in the presence of a sufficiently strong, facilitative force, an observer should not infer that the actor is predisposed to perform that behavior. Just as one should not conclude that a balloon that rises on a windy day is filled with helium, one cannot make unequivocal inferences about the abilities of an athlete, the convictions of a politician, or the mental health of a student when poor lighting, a roomful of opinionated voters, or sudden bad news may have induced their behaviors. In other words, one should not explain with dispositions that which has already been explained by the situation. This logical rule was first formalized by Jones and Davis (1965) as the law of noncommon effects and later extended and codified by Kelley (1967) as the discounting principle, which warns observers not to attribute an effect to any one causal agent (e.g., a disposition) when another plausible causal agent (e.g., a situational force) is simultaneously present. In other words, when people do precisely what the physical environment or the social situation demands, dispositional inferences are logically unwarranted.
(Red colorization mine.)

“Merit” (“deepestfear,” 235) (i.e., “dispositional inferences” [Daniel T. Gilbert, & Patrick S. Malone, 215]) “[is] logically unwarranted” (Daniel T. Gilbert, & Patrick S. Malone, 215) as a criterion for admittance to an unproductive institution to such a degree as a prospect “[does] precisely what [its] physical environment or [its] social situation demands” (Daniel T. Gilbert, & Patrick S. Malone, 215) and the institution is, indeed, unproductive.

Escape the plutocrats’ zanpakutō, Flower in the Mirror, Moon on the Water: brave “the ascent which is rough and steep” (Plato).
BitMos
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 182
Merit: 123

"PLEASE SCULPT YOUR SHIT BEFORE THROWING. Thank U"


View Profile
February 27, 2015, 06:34:27 AM
 #10

Quote from: Daniel T. Gilbert, Patrick S. Malone. “The Correspondence Bias.” A.P.A., 215. 22. 26 Feb. 235. link=http://www.wjh.harvard.edu/~dtg/Gilbert%20&%20Malone%20(CORRESPONDENCE%20BIAS).pdf
Attribution theory's fundamental distinction leads quite naturally to its fundamental rule: When a behavior occurs in the presence of a sufficiently strong, facilitative force, an observer should not infer that the actor is predisposed to perform that behavior. Just as one should not conclude that a balloon that rises on a windy day is filled with helium, one cannot make unequivocal inferences about the abilities of an athlete, the convictions of a politician, or the mental health of a student when poor lighting, a roomful of opinionated voters, or sudden bad news may have induced their behaviors. In other words, one should not explain with dispositions that which has already been explained by the situation. This logical rule was first formalized by Jones and Davis (1965) as the law of noncommon effects and later extended and codified by Kelley (1967) as the discounting principle, which warns observers not to attribute an effect to any one causal agent (e.g., a disposition) when another plausible causal agent (e.g., a situational force) is simultaneously present. In other words, when people do precisely what the physical environment or the social situation demands, dispositional inferences are logically unwarranted.
(Red colorization mine.)

“Merit” (“deepestfear,” 235) (i.e., “dispositional inferences” [Daniel T. Gilbert, & Patrick S. Malone, 215]) “[is] logically unwarranted” (Daniel T. Gilbert, & Patrick S. Malone, 215) as a criterion for admittance to an unproductive institution to such a degree as a prospect “[does] precisely what [its] physical environment or [its] social situation demands” (Daniel T. Gilbert, & Patrick S. Malone, 215) and the institution is, indeed, unproductive.

if their social environment demands them to be slave of men and they prefer to be servant of God, what happens? ahahah arrived the .... Cheesy, call it the chaos if it makes you feel securer... Cheesy.

money is faster...
username18333
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 378
Merit: 250


Knowledge could but approximate existence.


View Profile WWW
February 27, 2015, 06:38:35 AM
 #11

[…]

if their social environment demands them to be slave of men and they prefer to be servant of God, what happens? ahahah arrived the .... Cheesy, call it the chaos if it makes you feel securer... Cheesy.


Quote from: "anthropomorphism." Merriam-Webster. 27 Feb. 235.
:  an interpretation of what is not human or personal in terms of human or personal characteristics :  humanization

You make the god anthropomorphic. What else‽ Wink

Escape the plutocrats’ zanpakutō, Flower in the Mirror, Moon on the Water: brave “the ascent which is rough and steep” (Plato).
grendel25
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2296
Merit: 1031



View Profile
February 27, 2015, 06:47:37 AM
 #12

I'm all for providing opportunity to those coming up from poor backgrounds but 'penalizing' a student or requiring that they do better based on their ethnicity is sooooooooo wrong.  I feel bad for kids in college these days.

..EPICENTRAL .....
..EPIC: Epic Private Internet Cash..
.
.
▄▄█████████▄▄
▄█████████████████▄
▄█████████████████████▄
▄████████████████▀▀█████▄
▄████████████▀▀▀    ██████▄
████████▀▀▀   ▄▀   ████████
█████▄     ▄█▀     ████████
████████▄ █▀      █████████
▀████████▌▐       ████████▀
▀████████ ▄██▄  ████████▀
▀█████████████▄███████▀
▀█████████████████▀
▀▀█████████▀▀
.
▄▄█████████▄▄
▄█████████████████▄
▄█████████████████████▄
▄████████▀█████▀████████▄
▄██████▀  ▀     ▀  ▀██████▄
██████▌             ▐██████
██████    ██   ██    ██████
█████▌    ▀▀   ▀▀    ▐█████
▀█████▄  ▄▄     ▄▄  ▄█████▀
▀██████▄▄███████▄▄██████▀
▀█████████████████████▀
▀█████████████████▀
▀▀█████████▀▀
.
.
[/center]
username18333
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 378
Merit: 250


Knowledge could but approximate existence.


View Profile WWW
February 27, 2015, 07:15:06 AM
 #13

I'm all for providing opportunity to those coming up from poor backgrounds but 'penalizing' a student or requiring that they do better based on their ethnicity is sooooooooo wrong.  I feel bad for kids in college these days.

Regarding one so “penalized” (saddampbuh), the “academic excellence” thereof was, if you will, “over-extracted.”

Escape the plutocrats’ zanpakutō, Flower in the Mirror, Moon on the Water: brave “the ascent which is rough and steep” (Plato).
TotalShift
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 196
Merit: 100



View Profile
February 27, 2015, 07:32:11 AM
 #14

Does Blacks and Hispanics does not have a chance to Asians to be admitted if they are given equal chance?
username18333
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 378
Merit: 250


Knowledge could but approximate existence.


View Profile WWW
February 27, 2015, 07:34:50 AM
 #15

Does Blacks and Hispanics does not have a chance to Asians to be admitted if they are given equal chance?

What would their “home environment” indicate? Cry

Escape the plutocrats’ zanpakutō, Flower in the Mirror, Moon on the Water: brave “the ascent which is rough and steep” (Plato).
manis
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 303
Merit: 250


View Profile
February 27, 2015, 01:55:45 PM
 #16

I wonder what happens to mixed-race kids.  Tongue
saddampbuh (OP)
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1078
Merit: 1014


View Profile
February 27, 2015, 02:29:25 PM
 #17

Enforced diversity is good up to a point, question is where to draw the line and let merit take over
how could replacing intelligent europeans and asians with stupid blacks and mexicans ever be a good thing?

Be radical, have principles, be absolute, be that which the bourgeoisie calls an extremist: give yourself without counting or calculating, don't accept what they call ‘the reality of life' and act in such a way that you won't be accepted by that kind of ‘life', never abandon the principle of struggle.
jaysabi
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2044
Merit: 1115


★777Coin.com★ Fun BTC Casino!


View Profile
February 27, 2015, 04:37:54 PM
 #18

Enforced diversity is good up to a point, question is where to draw the line and let merit take over
how could replacing intelligent europeans and asians with stupid blacks and mexicans ever be a good thing?

How could being a racist asshat ever be a good thing?

saddampbuh (OP)
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1078
Merit: 1014


View Profile
February 27, 2015, 05:11:06 PM
 #19

How could being a racist asshat ever be a good thing?
which bit exactly is racist, calling blacks and mexicans stupid or disagreeing with the folks at princeton who also think they are stupid but believe this should qualify them for special privileges at the expense of more deserving candidates?

Be radical, have principles, be absolute, be that which the bourgeoisie calls an extremist: give yourself without counting or calculating, don't accept what they call ‘the reality of life' and act in such a way that you won't be accepted by that kind of ‘life', never abandon the principle of struggle.
username18333
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 378
Merit: 250


Knowledge could but approximate existence.


View Profile WWW
February 28, 2015, 06:12:38 PM
 #20

[…]

[H]ow could replacing intelligent europeans and asians with stupid blacks and mexicans ever be a good thing?

How could being a racist asshat ever be a good thing?

[W]hich bit exactly is racist, calling blacks and mexicans stupid or disagreeing with the folks at princeton who also think they are stupid but believe this should qualify them for special privileges at the expense of more deserving candidates?


Quote from: Daniel T. Gilbert, Patrick S. Malone. “The Correspondence Bias.” A.P.A., 215. 22. 26 Feb. 235. link=http://www.wjh.harvard.edu/~dtg/Gilbert%20&%20Malone%20(CORRESPONDENCE%20BIAS).pdf
Attribution theory's fundamental distinction leads quite naturally to its fundamental rule: When a behavior occurs in the presence of a sufficiently strong, facilitative force, an observer should not infer that the actor is predisposed to perform that behavior. Just as one should not conclude that a balloon that rises on a windy day is filled with helium, one cannot make unequivocal inferences about the abilities of an athlete, the convictions of a politician, or the mental health of a student when poor lighting, a roomful of opinionated voters, or sudden bad news may have induced their behaviors. In other words, one should not explain with dispositions that which has already been explained by the situation. This logical rule was first formalized by Jones and Davis (1965) as the law of noncommon effects and later extended and codified by Kelley (1967) as the discounting principle, which warns observers not to attribute an effect to any one causal agent (e.g., a disposition) when another plausible causal agent (e.g., a situational force) is simultaneously present. In other words, when people do precisely what the physical environment or the social situation demands, dispositional inferences are logically unwarranted.
(Red colorization mine.)

“jaysabi” might object to your obvious but arbitrary association of scholarly merit with academic achievement (undoubtedly, a consequence of the culture [“a sufficiently strong, facilitative force” {Daniel T. Gilbert, & Patrick S. Malone, 215}] wherewithin you, and not “stupid blacks and mexicans” [saddampbuh], were raised).

Escape the plutocrats’ zanpakutō, Flower in the Mirror, Moon on the Water: brave “the ascent which is rough and steep” (Plato).
Pages: [1] 2 »  All
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!