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February 26, 2015, 06:45:43 PM
Last edit: April 26, 2015, 04:08:58 PM by marcotheminer
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Games and Rounds is not spam, I've been participating those games even before my signature. I don't count them as your signature campaign. Why did you count them and say like this? I didn't post 50 messages this round, I already know it. None of my messages were deleted by moderators. Ask any moderator if you want. If you don't want to count my posts I can tell you: 36
I exclude 20 messages which are in Games&Rounds or Off-Topic or Local board. Consider this again and say terrible.

Very well, then please send back 0.055 to 1DwsNFJnXFSFtXP7M2q4rVczLyTqNpz1pb. If you meet a total of 50 posts next month (17 more) you will be paid. I still think that your posts were made solely for campaign earnings (hence the sudden posting activity in 2 days). Thanks.

No problem, I can send it back. I just sent verification form. It's pending now. You should know that I'm an honest user here. I already have a positive trust from Staff. I had life difficulties last week, but I'm okay now. I'm in my home for 2 days, hanging in BitcoinTalk. 30 posts in 2 days is not an impossible achivement. Wink

I am still waiting.

Above is the discussion we had through PMs. This month he will not be paid for his posts due to the extreme low quality spam which he generates.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=249250 is his profile.

Some known alts are staff member Eal F. Skillz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=140584) and PandaCoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=179482) among others possibly, if someone would like proof just post it below.

Linking proof:

Mind explaning how do you know that they are the same person ?  Huh Since you don't have access to the database or whatever to check their IP adresses .

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Start with this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=276623.msg3438084#msg3438084

It gives us this address: 1Cg3K676GSRUvSFqFoXJzuDbnk43fvnQDp (the post containing this address was actually edited Feb. 22 2015..)

Leads us to the TX: https://blockchain.info/tx/30c4636aa548a7386a69ffd10d0f84fc568cd30ab5aa01f430d61fd9f8e322dd

In the TX:
1yBmKJi6tZkwy9ctH9UsrH89pPsqWTp4a leads to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=249250
https://i.imgur.com/jGrpyqO.png

1DdssG3Quk25CWesms4rDKqT4gjNhgfC4C leads to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=179482
https://i.imgur.com/OWqzkMx.png

There are other alts I could find, most also left each other positive trust.
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February 26, 2015, 06:57:28 PM
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Mind explaning how do you know that they are the same person ?  Huh Since you don't have access to the database or whatever to check their IP adresses .

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February 26, 2015, 06:57:55 PM
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This is why you shouldn't reuse addresses so heavily. 1DwsNFJnXFSFtXP7M2q4rVczLyTqNpz1pb has received many payments to that address.

I want to see proof, so I will post it below.
30c4636aa548a7386a69ffd10d0f84fc568cd30ab5aa01f430d61fd9f8e322dd having inputs from both 1DdssG3Quk25CWesms4rDKqT4gjNhgfC4C which was posted here, and 1Cg3K676GSRUvSFqFoXJzuDbnk43fvnQDp which was posted/quoted here, and 1yBmKJi6tZkwy9ctH9UsrH89pPsqWTp4a which was posted here.


Additionally all three of them have given trust feedback to each other which is very concerning, especially for a moderator.
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February 26, 2015, 06:58:45 PM
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I suspect all of these are actually alts of hilariousandco (another staff member) but let me see what I can dig up
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February 26, 2015, 06:59:55 PM
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I don't think it is his fault that he was overpaid though, there is no mechanism for requesting payment, therefore the amount sent was based solely on what you thought he was owed.
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February 26, 2015, 07:00:05 PM
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This is why you shouldn't reuse addresses so heavily. 1DwsNFJnXFSFtXP7M2q4rVczLyTqNpz1pb has received many payments to that address.

I want to see proof, so I will post it below.
30c4636aa548a7386a69ffd10d0f84fc568cd30ab5aa01f430d61fd9f8e322dd having inputs from both 1DdssG3Quk25CWesms4rDKqT4gjNhgfC4C which was posted here, and 1Cg3K676GSRUvSFqFoXJzuDbnk43fvnQDp which was posted/quoted here, and 1yBmKJi6tZkwy9ctH9UsrH89pPsqWTp4a which was posted here.


Additionally all three of them have given trust feedback to each other which is very concerning, especially for a moderator.

Here's quickseller's proof. I'll post mine shortly. Also there are several other accounts leaving his 'main' account feedback along the lines of "trustworthy". They all post in the same threads (777coin's giveaway and 'total time logged in'). Additionally, all seem to post in turkish boards too, where Eal F. Skillz is a mod.
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February 26, 2015, 07:03:54 PM
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I suspect all of these are actually alts of hilariousandco (another staff member) but let me see what I can dig up

Damn, you got me  Roll Eyes. The question is, who are you an alt of?

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February 26, 2015, 07:05:19 PM
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Mind explaning how do you know that they are the same person ?  Huh Since you don't have access to the database or whatever to check their IP adresses .

~ Madness

Start with this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=276623.msg3438084#msg3438084

It gives us this address: 1Cg3K676GSRUvSFqFoXJzuDbnk43fvnQDp (the post containing this address was actually edited Feb. 22 2015..)

Leads us to the TX: https://blockchain.info/tx/30c4636aa548a7386a69ffd10d0f84fc568cd30ab5aa01f430d61fd9f8e322dd

In the TX:
1yBmKJi6tZkwy9ctH9UsrH89pPsqWTp4a leads to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=249250
https://i.imgur.com/jGrpyqO.png

1DdssG3Quk25CWesms4rDKqT4gjNhgfC4C leads to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=179482
https://i.imgur.com/OWqzkMx.png

There are other alts I could find, most also left each other positive trust.
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February 26, 2015, 07:05:47 PM
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I suspect all of these are actually alts of hilariousandco (another staff member) but let me see what I can dig up

Damn, you got me  Roll Eyes. The question is, who are you an alt of?
Ha no you are not. It should be obvious who he is an alt of, elianite
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February 26, 2015, 07:06:06 PM
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Are you serious ?  is Pandacoin an alt account of Eal F. Skillz? I didn't know this thing, thanks for the heads up.
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February 26, 2015, 07:07:13 PM
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I suspect all of these are actually alts of hilariousandco (another staff member) but let me see what I can dig up

Damn, you got me  Roll Eyes. The question is, who are you an alt of?
Ha no you are not. It should be obvious who he is an alt of, elianite

Good call, Vod.
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February 26, 2015, 07:07:52 PM
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Stay on topic guys!
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February 26, 2015, 07:17:45 PM
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I think the proofs are "valid", now let us wait a reply from his account ( one of them, maybe it would be better his main moderator account "Eal F. Skillz).



Just for reference : https://archive.today/XpWah
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February 26, 2015, 07:30:35 PM
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Saved all the posts "incriminated" :

- https://archive.today/Gxlfm   (pandacoin)
- https://archive.today/PVilB    (troleybüs)
- https://archive.today/ranGd  (Here he edited the post "Last edit: February 22, 2015, 02:39:44 PM by Eal F. Skillz").

I don't want to be involved, only to know the truth. Good luck guys.
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February 26, 2015, 07:45:01 PM
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Saved all the posts "incriminated" :

- https://archive.today/Gxlfm   (pandacoin)
- https://archive.today/PVilB    (troleybüs)
- https://archive.today/ranGd  (Here he edited the post "Last edit: February 22, 2015, 02:39:44 PM by Eal F. Skillz").

I don't want to be involved, only to know the truth. Good luck guys.

Thank you redsn0w.
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February 26, 2015, 10:34:04 PM
Last edit: February 26, 2015, 10:44:43 PM by MadZ
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First of all, I would like to make it clear that at this point I do not think that these accounts are alts of Eal.

At the same time, I think all evidence should be presented, so here is some more circumstantial evidence linking these three accounts together: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=962893.40

All 3 post 15 minutes after one another. 15 minutes after Pandacoin posts, so does https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=223006, another Turkish account that hangs out in the same threads as Pandacoin. This account has also only left feedback for eal and pandacoin.

Although the blockchain analysis is decent proof as well, I would like to hear what these users have to say about these accusations before finalizing my judgment. I think that there are legitimate reasons for these accounts to be linked so closely, although I'm not going to post them since they could be used to fabricate a story that seems legitimate.
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February 26, 2015, 11:04:30 PM
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I didn't spam as you have to check my counted posts only. They are ok. But I understand why you didn't wanna pay me. Because you want to control your signature deal with all your alts and get most of the money. I can see that one coming, because I offered you an easy and reasonable solution but you didn't even respond to my message.

In that case, I don't owe you 0.055 BTC, you had to cut my 17 messages which you accidentally count last payment day which is totally your fault. I've already said you shouldn't count them in the first place. I'll write message history in below.
You owe me 0.057BTC for my legit posts which made in February. Everybody should know, you betrayed Bit-X company and as a campaign organizer you tried to take advantage of the program with your multiple accounts.

It's funny you mention Eal F. Skillz and Pandacoin. Tonight we watched Beşiktaş - Liverpool game together. Check our photo in instagram. Cheesy


PM History:
Seems like I skipped your posts. They are of terrible quality. If I do not see an improvement next month you will be denied any payment.
Terrible? Really? I think they are better than yours.

You spammed 40 in 2 days. Half of them in the games and rounds section. Yes, terrible.

Games and Rounds is not spam, I've been participating those games even before my signature. I don't count them as your signature campaign. Why did you count them and say like this? I didn't post 50 messages this round, I already know it. None of my messages were deleted by moderators. Ask any moderator if you want. If you don't want to count my posts I can tell you: 36
I exclude 20 messages which are in Games&Rounds or Off-Topic or Local board. Consider this again and say terrible.

Very well, then please send back 0.055 to 1DwsNFJnXFSFtXP7M2q4rVczLyTqNpz1pb. If you meet a total of 50 posts next month (17 more) you will be paid. I still think that your posts were made solely for campaign earnings (hence the sudden posting activity in 2 days). Thanks.

No problem, I can send it back. I just sent verification form. It's pending now. You should know that I'm an honest user here. I already have a positive trust from Staff. I had life difficulties last week, but I'm okay now. I'm in my home for 2 days, hanging in BitcoinTalk. 30 posts in 2 days is not an impossible achivement. Wink

I can't see my balance. Site is broken.



How can I repay when my money is stuck in the site? It's already there, check it. Decrease 0.017BTC from next payment, it's an option, too.
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February 27, 2015, 01:20:38 AM
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marcotheminer is retaliating obviously.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=964525


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February 27, 2015, 01:48:52 AM
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Are you serious ?  is Pandacoin an alt account of Eal F. Skillz? I didn't know this thing, thanks for the heads up.

I had a little dispute with that Pandacoin guy and we traded negative feedback. Within an hour or so I was also left negative feedback by that Eal F Skillz guy. I thought at the time it was pretty odd..
Later that day Panda and myself worked it out, but it was strange.
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February 27, 2015, 05:04:55 AM
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You owe me some amount of BTC which I couldn't count total because you erased my name in your bot. Which is fine, I don't need your dirty money. But everybody should know, you betrayed Bit-X company and as a campaign organizer you tried to take advantage of the program with your multiple accounts.
Which of his alts are enrolled in bit-x?

Please provide proof of them to both me and PistolPete. We will use this information to warn against Marcotheminerspammer

Marco has already made one mistake administrating bit-x. Marco has now made two mistakes in his lending business. It is only a matter of time before he makes a second mistake at bit-x and his empire will fall.

The empire of Marcotheminer will be remembered as being one of the most prolific spamming empires known to bitcointalk
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