Private war between Rarity, augustocroppo and mlawrence

[Rarity]

Update on the Private Investigator

I've had quite a few emails regarding my plan.  I'm not going to answer trivial questions such as cost, motive, methods, status, etc.  Only those participating will be privy to the information collected, so email me only if you want to participate.

There are a lot of rumors going around Zhou.  All of this is speculation and misleading, and hiring a PI and getting actual facts about who this person is will be the only way to silence them.  We have a solid lead placing him in Australia and that is where we will begin the work.

We are not pursuing any kind of group or class action as those are expensive, time consuming and only benefit the lawyers.  We want individuals/companies who are willing to go through the process of laying a charge against Zhou under Australian jurisdiction.  Those people will have the first chance to recover any funds after criminal charges have been laid.  You do NOT have to be an Australian citizen to file charges against a person who committed a crime while in Australia.  My involvement with this is only the location - criminal charges and other actions are independent of mine.

If you are willing to contribute to the PI, please email me at   All information will be shared with those participating, and you won't need to send any money until we actually hire the PI.  Money spent on debt collection should be tax deductible, and it should improve the value of bitcoins as people realize fraud will not go unpunished.

Finally, please ignore the empty threats coming from Zhou's payroll - you cannot face civil or criminal charges for finding out the identity of a person - especially a person that has committed a crime against you.  We do not intend to even contact Zhou - only to find out who he is and get a physical address where the police can find him.  Anyone who tells you differently has a motive other than justice.

I would strongly urge people not to give this person money.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=97215.0

This topic has been moved to Trashcan because this user has a history of threatening to injure/kill Zhou Tong, and was attempting to gather the funds to do so.

[augustocroppo]

I would strongly urge people not to give this person money.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=97215.0

This topic has been moved to Trashcan because this user has a history of threatening to injure/kill Zhou Tong, and was attempting to gather the funds to do so.

Why not?

[Vod]

My topic was moved to the trashcan because Zhou Tong has donated a lot of funds to the forum.  

I have never once threatened to do the thief any harm - I simply pointed out what happens to people who steal so much money.  A difference that Maged cannot understand.   

[augustocroppo]

My topic was moved to the trashcan because Zhou Tong has donated a lot of funds to the forum.  

I have never once threatened to do the thief any harm - I simply pointed out what happens to people who steal so much money.  A difference that Maged cannot understand.   

You are dealing with "agreements behind doors".

[augustocroppo]

I would strongly urge people not to give this person money.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=97215.0

This topic has been moved to Trashcan because this user has a history of threatening to injure/kill Zhou Tong, and was attempting to gather the funds to do so.

Contradiction:

Only guilty people fear the law.  Did you declare OJ innocent when he hired a defense attorney?  Zhou Tong has nothing to fear from the law, and has single handedly caught a hacker and made some restitution possible.  I'm not sure how you can't respect how much he cares about this community to put himself on the line like this.  A true hero.

So, if zhoutong is a real person and he is innocent as you insist, why should he fear a private investigation?

Why should you?

[Vod]

My topic was moved to the trashcan because Zhou Tong has donated a lot of funds to the forum.  

I have never once threatened to do the thief any harm - I simply pointed out what happens to people who steal so much money.  A difference that Maged cannot understand.  

You are dealing with "agreements behind doors".

Absolutely.  I received this part in an email from one of the PI interested parties:

The problem I see is that the forum, the bitcoin magazine, and every other bitcoin outlet out there has been bought and paid for by Zhou Tong. He was smart that way. Whatever information you are able to produce, will be dismissed by the forum.

You can clearly see that people like Rarity, Matthew and Maged have received, and/or continue to receive, stolen funds to quell any uprising.

It's unfortunate that this theft has split the community the way it has.  

[Rarity]

I would strongly urge people not to give this person money.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=97215.0

This topic has been moved to Trashcan because this user has a history of threatening to injure/kill Zhou Tong, and was attempting to gather the funds to do so.

Contradiction:

Only guilty people fear the law.  Did you declare OJ innocent when he hired a defense attorney?  Zhou Tong has nothing to fear from the law, and has single handedly caught a hacker and made some restitution possible.  I'm not sure how you can't respect how much he cares about this community to put himself on the line like this.  A true hero.

So, if zhoutong is a real person and he is innocent as you insist, why should he fear the a private investigation?

Why should you?

Because the person running it has threatened violence against him.  There is a difference between fearing the law and fearing a lynch mob featuring calls to stalk and injure someone.

My topic was moved to the trashcan because Zhou Tong has donated a lot of funds to the forum.   Wink

[Vod]

Because the person running it has threatened violence against him.

Quote, or it never happened, and you are just being paid to libel me.  

[Rarity]

It's already been quoted, and the mods read it too.  FUD and conspiracy theories aren't getting you anywhere.

[Vod]

It's already been quoted, and the mods read it too.  FUD and conspiracy theories aren't getting you anywhere.

Quote, or it never happened!

[Rarity]

It's already been quoted, and the mods read it too.  FUD and conspiracy theories aren't getting you anywhere.

[Vod]

It's already been quoted, and the mods read it too.  FUD and conspiracy theories aren't getting you anywhere.

There ya go - I never threatened anybody.   

[Rarity]

It's already been quoted, and the mods read it too.  FUD and conspiracy theories aren't getting you anywhere.  Replying "NUH-UH!" and whining about the mods bitchslapping you down is not going to change what you did.

[Vod]

It's already been quoted, and the mods read it too.  FUD and conspiracy theories aren't getting you anywhere.  Replying "NUH-UH!" and whinging about the mods bitchslapping you down is not going to change what you did.

Do you have a link to the quote?  Did you read it when you were high?

[Rarity]

It has already been quoted and the mods decided to shut down your thread.  Stop acting like a six year old pretending you can get out of what you did with a repetitive tantrum.

[Vod]

It has already been quoted and the mods decided to shut down your thread.  Stop acting like a six year old pretending you can get out of what you did with a tantrum.

What has already been quoted?  You're telling me your only evidence is something that was deleted?  I'm telling you it never happened, and I am of sound mind and body. 

Stop acting like a child and produce the quote or STFU - I have never threatened anybody.

[Rarity]

It has already been quoted and the mods decided to shut down your thread.  Stop acting like a six year old pretending you can get out of what you did with a tantrum.

What has already been quoted?  You're telling me your only evidence is something that was deleted?  I'm telling you it never happened, and I am of sound mind and body. 

Stop acting like a child and produce the quote or STFU - I have never threatened anybody.

I have already quoted the offending comments in this thread, and Matthew quoted the deleted one you are trying to pretend doesn't exist like a guilty child.  Having a tantrum about it and insulting the integrity of the moderators will not change what happened.  Grownups take responsibility for our actions, and one day you will learn that.

[ninjarobot]

@mlawrence - Please stop feeding the Troll Pony

[Vod]

I have already quoted the offending comments in this thread, and Matthew quoted the deleted one you are trying to pretend doesn't exist like a guilty child.  Having a tantrum about it and insulting the integrity of the moderators will not change what happened.  Grownups take responsibility for our actions, and one day you will learn that.

Then you will have no problem quoting it here again.  Otherwise, it didn't happen.

[Vod]

Come on Rarity - the thread was supposedly deleted cause I have a "HISTORY" of threatening him - that must mean I have threatened him before, right?

Find one threat and I'll shut up.  Just one little quote, or it didn't happen, no matter how many times you say it did.