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March 04, 2015, 03:44:09 PM
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Its time we create meninism, opposite for feminism to support our fellow bro dudes around the world.

Or women and men could just unite on the fucking issue and stop trying to take sides, you know, by treating each other equally in the courts and in society.
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Its time we create meninism, opposite for feminism to support our fellow bro dudes around the world.
This is kind of already happening, and "feminists" are lashing out at these groups with everything they have, including violence, bomb threats, and accusing these groups of being "terrorist" organizations. These groups are most commonly known by the "Men's Rights Movement (MRM or MR)" and "Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)". Try a search for either of these phrases on youtube and you will find endless hours of related content.


Or women and men could just unite on the fucking issue and stop trying to take sides, you know, by treating each other equally in the courts and in society.

You are on a side whether you like it or not by default. Unfortunately the "feminist" movement has been morphing into a female supremacy movement with political Marxist tendencies that is no longer interested in equality. I am pro-equality, and pro-anyone who wants equality, however if there is an organized movement to subjugate men, well I don't see any reason to sit by silently and tolerate my entire gender being turned into some kind of lower caste section of society free to be abused. The gender polar opposite of abuse is not righting a wrong, it is just more abuse under new management.
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March 04, 2015, 04:35:33 PM
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There's a lot of people I wish would kill themselves, wish I had the power to make it happen.
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WTF?! That's a thing now?! No wonder I suck at being my age group, most people my age or younger are lunatics! O_O
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WTF?! That's a thing now?! No wonder I suck at being my age group, most people my age or younger are lunatics! O_O
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March 05, 2015, 09:31:21 PM
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This story just makes me sick. Truly sociopathic behavior.

The worst she will get is manslaughter, when it really should be murder.
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September 01, 2015, 02:36:05 PM
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This story just makes me sick. Truly sociopathic behavior.

The worst she will get is manslaughter, when it really should be murder.


‘It’s now or never': Texts reveal teen’s efforts to pressure boyfriend into suicide






Michelle Carter knew that if anyone found her text messages to her boyfriend Conrad Roy III, she might go to jail.

“[If the police] read my messages with him I’m done. His family will hate me and I can go to jail,” Carter texted a friend after her 18-year-old boyfriend used a gas-powered water pump to commit suicide in the parking lot of a KMart.

Carter had asked Roy in a text message to delete her messages before he carried out the suicide last summer, but investigators found them anyway.

According to prosecutors, Carter pressured her boyfriend to go through with suicide for almost a week before he carried out the act. She counseled him to overcome his fears; researched methods of committing suicide painlessly; and lied to police, his family and her friends about his whereabouts during the act itself and after, prosecutors said.

Carter, who was 17 at the time of Roy’s death, now faces manslaughter charges in juvenile court in Massachusetts.

Her attorney argues, however, that the charges should be dropped because Carter’s messages are protected by free speech. According to attorney Joseph P. Cataldo, Carter was “brainwashed” into supporting Roy’s plan for suicide.

“He ultimately persuaded a young, impressionable girl,” Caldato told reporters, according to South Coast Today. “Eventually he gets her to endorse his plan.”

But in an indictment released Friday, prosecutors outlined in nauseating detail the extent of Carter’s alleged role in helping Roy overcome his doubts about suicide.

For more than a week in July 2014, Carter and Roy exchanged hundreds of messages in which Carter insisted that Roy would be better off dead.

“You’re finally going to be happy in heaven. No more pain,” she told him in one message. “It’s okay to be scared and it’s normal. I mean, you’re about to die.”

According to prosecutors, the two had struck up a romantic relationship — mostly online — in 2012. Her lawyer says they had only met a few times in person over the course of two years prior to Roy’s death.

Roy had a history of depression and had attempted suicide in the past, but his family was hopeful that he would get through it.

“He seemed to be pulling out of it,” his grandmother Janice Roy told WBZ.

[How to talk to your teen about depression, suicide]

Text messages recovered by police, however, suggest that by 2014, Carter had gotten tired of Roy’s idle talk of suicide and she wanted him to go through with it  — now.

“You always say you’re gonna do it, but you never do,” Carter complained. “I just want to make sure tonight is the real thing.”

Another time, she texted: “You can’t keep pushing it off, though. That’s all you keep doing.”

Carter was insistent, even when Roy steered the topic to other things:

ROY: How was your day?

CARTER: When are you doing it?

Roy said he was having a good day, but Carter wasn’t satisfied.

CARTER: Really?

ROY: Yes.

CARTER: That’s great. What did you do?

ROY: Ended up going to work for a little bit and then just looked stuff up.

CARTER: When are you gonna do it? Stop ignoring the question???

Roy had doubts, and he was scared, according to his texts. What if it didn’t work and he ended up injured for the rest of his life? How would his family cope with the loss?

Carter had answers.

He would be her guardian angel in heaven.

She would comfort his family and they would move on.

If he followed the directions he had found online for killing himself with carbon monoxide, it would “100 percent work,” she said.

“There isn’t anything anyone can do to save you, not even yourself,” she told him.

But committing suicide would require tools. Roy thought about using a tube to channel the exhaust from his truck’s tailpipe into the vehicle but realized that the diesel engine emitted lower levels of carbon monoxide that might make failure more likely.

Carter was confident that it would work and told him why.

“If you emit 3200 ppm of it for five or ten minutes, you will die within a half hour,” she told him. “You lose consciousness with no pain. You just fall asleep and die.”

But Carter didn’t love that idea, either, because she feared that Roy would make up an “excuse” to explain why it didn’t work.

“I bet you’re gonna be like ‘oh, it didn’t work because I didn’t tape the tube right or something like that,'” she texted him “You always seem to have an excuse.”

When Roy decided to use a generator instead, Carter was impatient.

“Do you have the generator?” she asked him.

“Not yet LOL,” he replied.

“WELL WHEN ARE YOU GETTING IT?” she wrote.

Eventually, Roy did find a generator — his father’s — but it was broken. Carter told him to take it to Sears for repairs.

And if Roy couldn’t find a way to use carbon monoxide, Carter suggested alternatives: “I’d try the bag or hanging,” she told him. “Hanging is painless and take like a second if you do it right.”

The day of Roy’s death — July 12, 2014 — he and Carter exchanged texts in the early morning hours.

“You can’t think about it. You just have to do it,” Carter said, telling him she didn’t understand why he was hesitating.

“I’m gonna eventually,” he replied. “I really don’t know what I’m waiting for but I have everything lined up.”

She suggested that he take Benadryl to fall asleep and allow the fumes to work.

She worried that he wouldn’t go through with it because the sun would soon be coming up.

She suggested that he go to an empty parking lot.

They texted throughout the day about the plans, about Roy’s doubts, and about Carter’s insistence that “the time is right” and that he was ready.

At the same time, Carter appeared to be preparing her friends and Roy’s relatives for his eventual death. Days before his suicide, Carter texted a friend named Samantha and claimed that Roy was missing — though she was communicating with him at exactly the same time about how to fix his father’s broken generator.

The day before his death, she told her friend: “I’m thankful that our last words were I love you.”

At some point on the night of July 12, Roy went through with the suicide, using a gas-powered water pump. He died of carbon monoxide poisoning inside the cab of his pickup truck.

While he was in the truck with the pump running, he was on the phone texting and talking with Carter, she told her friend.

“Like, honestly I could have stopped it,” Carter texted Samantha months later. “I was on the phone with him and he got out of the car” because the carbon monoxide was working, she said. She added that she “told him to get back in.”

Roy’s body was found by police on the morning of July 13.

A judge will now decide whether Carter will face charges in his death. She will appear in court again on Oct. 2.

After his death, Carter became a self-proclaimed advocate for mental health.

She organized a fundraising tournament in Roy’s memory and posted on Facebook and Twitter about her attempts to save her boyfriend’s life.

“Even though I could not save my boyfriend’s life, I want to put myself out here to try to save as many other lives as possible,” she wrote on Facebook.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/31/its-now-or-never-texts-reveal-teens-efforts-to-pressure-boyfriend-into-suicide/


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September 02, 2015, 06:50:35 AM
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http://q13fox.com/2015/02/27/investigators-say-teen-coaxed-friend-to-commit-suicide-then-tweeted-how-much-she-missed-him/

I am absolutely disgusted by this. This woman believes that men are nothing but disposable tools meant to end their lives in order to provide her with sympathy and attention from her peers. Michelle Carter should kill herself.


"Days prior to Roy’s suicide, Carter was allegedly telling her friends “it’s her fault that Conrad is dead, even though he was still alive and speaking and texting with her regularly,” police said.

South Coast Today reported that on July 11, 2014, Carter texted a friend saying she couldn’t locate Roy and was “a mess,” then an hour later texted Roy and allegedly said, “Let me know when you’re gonna do it.” "
I've red about this online.
I feel bad about the guy but girl needs help to.
Because if no helps her she'll do it again maybe this time she'll do the  killing.

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http://q13fox.com/2015/02/27/investigators-say-teen-coaxed-friend-to-commit-suicide-then-tweeted-how-much-she-missed-him/

I am absolutely disgusted by this. This woman believes that men are nothing but disposable tools meant to end their lives in order to provide her with sympathy and attention from her peers. Michelle Carter should kill herself.


"Days prior to Roy’s suicide, Carter was allegedly telling her friends “it’s her fault that Conrad is dead, even though he was still alive and speaking and texting with her regularly,” police said.

South Coast Today reported that on July 11, 2014, Carter texted a friend saying she couldn’t locate Roy and was “a mess,” then an hour later texted Roy and allegedly said, “Let me know when you’re gonna do it.” "
I've red about this online.
I feel bad about the guy but girl needs help to.
Because if no helps her she'll do it again maybe this time she'll do the  killing.
likely not, imo her motive in pressuring her friend to kill himself was to bask in the attention that would follow as a result of her friendship with him; an attention whore.
she clearly has some psychological problems (sociopath? correct me if I'm wrong), possibly multiple. she clearly values some temporary attention more than a human life though, and people like that can't be part of a normal society.

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http://q13fox.com/2015/02/27/investigators-say-teen-coaxed-friend-to-commit-suicide-then-tweeted-how-much-she-missed-him/

I am absolutely disgusted by this. This woman believes that men are nothing but disposable tools meant to end their lives in order to provide her with sympathy and attention from her peers. Michelle Carter should kill herself.


"Days prior to Roy’s suicide, Carter was allegedly telling her friends “it’s her fault that Conrad is dead, even though he was still alive and speaking and texting with her regularly,” police said.

South Coast Today reported that on July 11, 2014, Carter texted a friend saying she couldn’t locate Roy and was “a mess,” then an hour later texted Roy and allegedly said, “Let me know when you’re gonna do it.” "
I've red about this online.
I feel bad about the guy but girl needs help to.
Because if no helps her she'll do it again maybe this time she'll do the  killing.


After his death, Carter became a self-proclaimed advocate for mental health.

She organized a fundraising tournament in Roy’s memory and posted on Facebook and Twitter about her attempts to save her boyfriend’s life.

“Even though I could not save my boyfriend’s life, I want to put myself out here to try to save as many other lives as possible,” she wrote on Facebook.



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She needs to go and get help while securely away from society.


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Well now all the information has come out, she definitely belongs in jail for being a crazy and manipulative sociopath.
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September 05, 2015, 04:57:43 PM
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http://q13fox.com/2015/02/27/investigators-say-teen-coaxed-friend-to-commit-suicide-then-tweeted-how-much-she-missed-him/

I am absolutely disgusted by this. This woman believes that men are nothing but disposable tools meant to end their lives in order to provide her with sympathy and attention from her peers. Michelle Carter should kill herself.


"Days prior to Roy’s suicide, Carter was allegedly telling her friends “it’s her fault that Conrad is dead, even though he was still alive and speaking and texting with her regularly,” police said.

South Coast Today reported that on July 11, 2014, Carter texted a friend saying she couldn’t locate Roy and was “a mess,” then an hour later texted Roy and allegedly said, “Let me know when you’re gonna do it.” "

Guys really need to man up and see how women are really are, that girl was just a narcissistic egomaniac with no feelings.

I know some nice girls that are kind and helpful, but there are these sluts who just fuck around and want to steal your money and life power.

Just ignore these vampires, and let them starve without attention, narcissists will starve without attenton, so let them.

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http://q13fox.com/2015/02/27/investigators-say-teen-coaxed-friend-to-commit-suicide-then-tweeted-how-much-she-missed-him/

I am absolutely disgusted by this. This woman believes that men are nothing but disposable tools meant to end their lives in order to provide her with sympathy and attention from her peers. Michelle Carter should kill herself.


"Days prior to Roy’s suicide, Carter was allegedly telling her friends “it’s her fault that Conrad is dead, even though he was still alive and speaking and texting with her regularly,” police said.

South Coast Today reported that on July 11, 2014, Carter texted a friend saying she couldn’t locate Roy and was “a mess,” then an hour later texted Roy and allegedly said, “Let me know when you’re gonna do it.” "

Guys really need to man up and see how women are really are, that girl was just a narcissistic egomaniac with no feelings.

I know some nice girls that are kind and helpful, but there are these sluts who just fuck around and want to steal your money and life power.

Just ignore these vampires, and let them starve without attention, narcissists will starve without attenton, so let them.
i really dont see much hope for improvement on this girl, especially if she is both narcissistic and a sociopath; a narcissist will always be justified in their actions in their own heads, and you cant get them to relate to how other people they feel either. ive got a feeling whatever therapist picks up this girl's case isnt going to make much progress into getting her to integrate into normal society.

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September 06, 2015, 09:31:58 AM
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http://q13fox.com/2015/02/27/investigators-say-teen-coaxed-friend-to-commit-suicide-then-tweeted-how-much-she-missed-him/

I am absolutely disgusted by this. This woman believes that men are nothing but disposable tools meant to end their lives in order to provide her with sympathy and attention from her peers. Michelle Carter should kill herself.


"Days prior to Roy’s suicide, Carter was allegedly telling her friends “it’s her fault that Conrad is dead, even though he was still alive and speaking and texting with her regularly,” police said.

South Coast Today reported that on July 11, 2014, Carter texted a friend saying she couldn’t locate Roy and was “a mess,” then an hour later texted Roy and allegedly said, “Let me know when you’re gonna do it.” "

Guys really need to man up and see how women are really are, that girl was just a narcissistic egomaniac with no feelings.

I know some nice girls that are kind and helpful, but there are these sluts who just fuck around and want to steal your money and life power.

Just ignore these vampires, and let them starve without attention, narcissists will starve without attenton, so let them.
i really dont see much hope for improvement on this girl, especially if she is both narcissistic and a sociopath; a narcissist will always be justified in their actions in their own heads, and you cant get them to relate to how other people they feel either. ive got a feeling whatever therapist picks up this girl's case isnt going to make much progress into getting her to integrate into normal society.

Narcissists are not always sociopaths, but i agree that 95% of teen girls are narcissists, probably because all this social media and the craving for fame and attention.

Its disgusting how women became so bad with all this celebrity culture and egomania. Women were always attention seekers, but now with all this "social media crap" and this "party culture", this problem became abominational.

Not to mention with a little bit of extra ingredients called feminism, I just think the west is doomed.


No wonder the birthrate in the west is so low, who wants to make a family with these disgusting whores?

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September 06, 2015, 11:09:13 AM
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Well now all the information has come out, she definitely belongs in jail for being a crazy and manipulative sociopath.

She's definitively a sociopath and evil manipulative bitch, but I'm on the fence on whether she should go to jail as abhorrent as her actions were. The dude was an idiot for even staying in communication with her but as far as I'm aware telling someone to go kill themselves isn't against the law. He should've ignored it and moved on.
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There have always been sociopaths in the world but in the past it was easier to avoid them, now young people are so into social networks and stuff like that for a generation of young men and women it seems impossible to just turn off that d*mn mobile phone. And since they don’t do it, the bullies and abusers have access 24/7 to you, in your house, work, and every place you go, thanks to the mobile phone.

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September 08, 2015, 07:54:36 AM
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Well now all the information has come out, she definitely belongs in jail for being a crazy and manipulative sociopath.

She's definitively a sociopath and evil manipulative bitch, but I'm on the fence on whether she should go to jail as abhorrent as her actions were. The dude was an idiot for even staying in communication with her but as far as I'm aware telling someone to go kill themselves isn't against the law. He should've ignored it and moved on.
i dont blame the guy at all, suicidal people dont think the same way a person in a normal state would think. maybe he thought this sociopath was the only outlet  he had left.
as far as weather or not her actions were legal or not, assisting people with suicide has legal restrictions iirc, and is only legal under certain circumstances. not only did she tell him to just go kill himself, she actively coaxed him to continue with the act. she definitely belongs in jail until a therapist deems her able to integrate back into normal society.

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September 08, 2015, 07:30:10 PM
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If you feel so strongly about suicide don't tell someone else to kill themselves.  Roll Eyes  Pro tip.

This doesn't make sense? What's the joke? The logic is the exact opposite...so it wouldn't be pro tip!

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Well now all the information has come out, she definitely belongs in jail for being a crazy and manipulative sociopath.

She's definitively a sociopath and evil manipulative bitch, but I'm on the fence on whether she should go to jail as abhorrent as her actions were. The dude was an idiot for even staying in communication with her but as far as I'm aware telling someone to go kill themselves isn't against the law. He should've ignored it and moved on.
i dont blame the guy at all, suicidal people dont think the same way a person in a normal state would think. maybe he thought this sociopath was the only outlet  he had left.
as far as weather or not her actions were legal or not, assisting people with suicide has legal restrictions iirc, and is only legal under certain circumstances. not only did she tell him to just go kill himself, she actively coaxed him to continue with the act. she definitely belongs in jail until a therapist deems her able to integrate back into normal society.

While this sounds good in theory, there is no way to cure a sociopath, and as far as I know therapy and stuff like that makes them even more dangerous.

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September 08, 2015, 10:02:39 PM
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Well now all the information has come out, she definitely belongs in jail for being a crazy and manipulative sociopath.

She's definitively a sociopath and evil manipulative bitch, but I'm on the fence on whether she should go to jail as abhorrent as her actions were. The dude was an idiot for even staying in communication with her but as far as I'm aware telling someone to go kill themselves isn't against the law. He should've ignored it and moved on.
i dont blame the guy at all, suicidal people dont think the same way a person in a normal state would think. maybe he thought this sociopath was the only outlet  he had left.
as far as weather or not her actions were legal or not, assisting people with suicide has legal restrictions iirc, and is only legal under certain circumstances. not only did she tell him to just go kill himself, she actively coaxed him to continue with the act. she definitely belongs in jail until a therapist deems her able to integrate back into normal society.

While this sounds good in theory, there is no way to cure a sociopath, and as far as I know therapy and stuff like that makes them even more dangerous.
of course you cant cure a psychological disorder just like that, but it is possible to treat it. if the disorder is managed to a certain extent, assimilation into normal society is very possible. just a few links i searched up:
http://www.sociopathworld.com/2013/12/sociopath-treatment.html
http://www.wisegeek.org/how-is-sociopathy-treated.htm

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