US police shoot homeless man dead in Los Angeles

[BitCoinNutJob]

This is 1 unarmed guy vs 5-6 men who are trained for this and they get themselves in a position where he can make a grab for their gun? do you not find that a little shocking?

If the homeless guy did get a hold of the weapon then yeah they then have no choice but to shoot to kill - Its a police error if that happened though. If it were a riot situation with several people and limited officers getting beaten up under life threat that would be different.

I dont understand why you are making judgements of the situations i may or may not have been in its ad hominem, last time i checked i was human and have been in a variety of situations if that helps.  I do try to avoid putting my life on the line for sure.

Conclusion is still: bad policing. im staying the fk away from USA.

because those who have had to fight for their lives usually get why these types of situations can easily turn out this way, the rest usually don't, there is no such thing as concern for the aggressor's welfare in life and death situations this is why trayvon mike brown et al don't lead to convictions

no i dont find it shocking one bit, guy was mentally ill and in a frenzied state and somehow withstood a taser

Im agreeing after he gets hands on a weapon he has to be shot.  They could have just surrounded him, wear him down, protect the pubic.  

The guy was likely mentally ill and in a frenzied state so that is why you let him get near your weapon.  If not for the police safety or homeless guy safety it could have been very dangerous for passers by if he got the gun and got loose.

Very bad policing! It you can't control a suspect with the help of 3 or more other officers, you are useless!

Go grab another donut!

+1

[shogdite]

I'd think the homeless guy doesnt have the current mental privillage to understand exactly what might happen if he goes for the officers gun.  If the police are actually protecting the public they have to take this into account.   Decision making is different at different times.  

Conclusion: If you are a good cop its your job to not let this particular guy in range of your weapon.   Seriously this is an embarrassment for the police.

kind of hard to arrest and cuff someone without him being in range of your weapon unless you have telekinesis

No way at all that guy posed an immediate threat, if six police officers can't subdue one unarmed homeless dude then they really need to put the donuts down and hit the gym.

[ajareselde]

First of all the video linked in op is terrible, you cant see anything due to blurring of the faces, you have another one here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_P0_RZGOaw
, its much better quality if you can handle the noise from comentators mouth.

What others said; if 3 police officers cant handle one guy, they are in the wrong bussiness, and its far worse than that;
even tho they tased him, they managed to get their official gun compromised (you can hear one officer saying "drop my gun, drop my gun"), i mean how useless can
you actually be ?

And shooting the guy 4-5 times makes this like a shooting adventure for them, because if u ever saw a man thats shot, u know that one bullet in torso is
more than enough to disable him.

Sad day for anyone who believes in justice amung the police,

cheers

[BitCoinNutJob]

First of all the video linked in op is terrible, you cant see anything due to blurring of the faces, you have another one here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_P0_RZGOaw
, its much better quality if you can handle the noise from comentators mouth.

What others said; if 3 police officers cant handle one guy, they are in the wrong bussiness, and its far worse than that;
even tho they tased him, they managed to get their official gun compromised (you can hear one officer saying "drop my gun, drop my gun"), i mean how useless can
you actually be ?

And shooting the guy 4-5 times makes this like a shooting adventure for them, because if u ever saw a man thats shot, u know that one bullet in torso is
more than enough to disable him.

Sad day for anyone who believes in justice amung the police,

cheers

Thats a better video ta, think most people agree the situation was handled poorly its just a few people probably trolling.

[BADecker]

No police officers prosecuted for shootings in Los Angeles County since 2001

https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/172189-2015-03-11-no-police-officers-prosecuted-for-shootings-in-los-angeles-county.htm

http://www.dailynews.com/general-news/20150307/no-police-officers-prosecuted-for-shootings-in-los-angeles-county-since-2001

[shogdite]

No police officers prosecuted for shootings in Los Angeles County since 2001

https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/172189-2015-03-11-no-police-officers-prosecuted-for-shootings-in-los-angeles-county.htm

http://www.dailynews.com/general-news/20150307/no-police-officers-prosecuted-for-shootings-in-los-angeles-county-since-2001

Wow, Judge Dredd would be proud of that statistic. I AM THE LAW!



Can appreciate there is a lot of crime in LA but there needs to be some safeguards from these trigger happy goons. Have to remember my body armor next time I'm cruising around Compton.

[Possum577]

All part of standard US policy to give even the untrustworthy police used military equipment

What was the used military equipment involved in this incident?

It's awful the way this went down. The police (in any country or community) need to be held to a higher standard than the rest of the population, because A) the cops are given more authority and B) they need to set an example for us all.

There's a lot of negative comments on here about US police. Everyone's entitled to their opinion but know that the incidents you read in the news are NOT indicative of the entire police force population. Most use an appropriate amount of discretion, respect life more than these trigger happy folks, and adhere to the US legal expectation that everyone is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

One thing that these public events do is enforce change. THere have been recent reports of police officers seeking non-lethal restraint weapons, tasers and such, as replacements for the guns. Some of this is not altruistic, these cops don't want to be caught in a challenging situation with a gun where they can then be evaluated and criticized based on incomplete evidence or a grainy video in the media.

[sgk]

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Witnesses said the dead man was known as Africa and had been homeless after treatment for mental illness.
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Video of actual incident:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4N6hDSFbv8

[asuryan180]

The post above says it all, how can them scum bags keep this up without unrest, people are so asleep and letting crap like this happen it is scarey to say the least. They should be found taken away and dealt with that will make them think about doing it again in the future. The this is they know they can do whatever they want so they will..

[Decksperiment]

With all the guns sold BY america, it's just a matter of time before the guns get together, and start shooting the police back as a new (un-offical) police force

[worhiper_-_]

what is their problem in america the american police should calm down a little ! i dont know, ymabe they all like to shoot people , maybe they are always looking for a chance to shoot their weapon , maybe they like the sound of it ... i dont know but someone haw to do something about it !

[Chef Ramsay]

This stuff happens because officer safety is more important than public safety. They've proven that time and time again. Also, these guys have professional immunity and are pretty much never personally held accountable for any destruction of rights. Whenever they royally screw up and there's a lawsuit, the taxpayers end up footing the bill and these guys typically go on paid leave. That being said, these guys have to deal with scum day in and day out so there's a lot of built up stress that comes with the territory.

[Agestorzrxx]

When will criminals or suspects realize that cops carry guns and are trained to use them? They should be all yes sir, no sir when questioned by a cop. I don't condone some of the police's choices but when criminals can carry guns more powerful than cops and their actions are split second reactions people will get killed (cops and civilians alike).

[shogdite]

what is their problem in america the american police should calm down a little ! i dont know, ymabe they all like to shoot people , maybe they are always looking for a chance to shoot their weapon , maybe they like the sound of it ... i dont know but someone haw to do something about it !

I'd say US cops are very trigger happy, can appreciate they have a dangerous job but that doesn't entitle them to be judge, jury and executioner.
Lost count of the number of unarmed civilians killed by cops over the last few months, can only see it getting worse as the police get more militarized.