Dark Markets are selling Worthless junk

[yakuza699]

So before we I even start talking I would like to say that I do not encourage carding,hacking or any other illegal cyber/physical stuff.I will not talk about drugs or anything like that all I will talk about will  be about cyber stuff.

So I have been watching Agora and Evolution for some guides including:how to hack PayPal/CC,how to card CC/Paypal,MMORPG carding,how to hack atm etc.But I got to say I was really really upset with what I found in them.Off course all of those guides didn't even summed up to a total of 0.2(but close).But I expected way way more than that.

For example last thing I brought was How To Hack ATM’s For Free Cash (No Tools Required) from vendor CITRA on EVO I haven't even expected it to be some kind of a miracle neither I was even intended to try it but what I got was a copy paste of this http://hack2tips.blogspot.com/2014/05/how-to-hack-atms-for-free-cash-no-tools.html he/she even pasted this line "MUST READ: GET $100000 TRANSFER TO YOUR BANK TODAY! CLICK NOW!!!" which literally made me laugh.

Agora,EVO and all other dark markets turned in to that email shit that you receive in your trashcan like "Make 100$ every 10 minutes autopilot" except that you have to pay for it.When I went to a dark market I expected some dark-net, expensive hacking guides not some cheap outdated/not working stuff copy pasted from google which in fact you can get for free.I saw many medium price(0.1-1BTC) guides on how make x$ in y time auto/non-auto stuff, I would for sure buy them I would for sure even pay 10BTC for a good black hat stuff (how to hack cc/paypal or some other money making guide etc.) but I am afraid that I will purchase same thing just for the higher price.It would be a miracle if mods of black markets would view some of the things that vendors sell and if they sell crap that would be typed under their name,the markets would then be rubbish-free and buyers could pay more but get more quality items.

What are your experiences?Do you know some vendors who sells quality guides?I would love to buy a tutorial which at least explains some medium level hacking stuff (ex.obtaining cc/paypal,GC etc,etc.) I would love to increase my knowledge.Share your thoughts.

Again mods I do not encourage illegal stuff and this was only made for knowledge only.Please don't remove this.

If I made some typos sorry.

[onemorexmr]

Again mods I do not encourage illegal stuff and this was only made for knowledge only.Please don't remove this.

its a shame we all live in a world where we even have to state such - though i understand why you wrote it (and i'd probably would write the same).

anyhow: i wish you luck; but i think the only place to get good blackhat stuff are conferences. maybe we'll meet us there someday

[yakuza699]

anyhow: i wish you luck; but i think the only place to get good blackhat stuff are conferences. maybe we'll meet us there someday

Thanks I'll for sure need it.About what kind of conferences are we talking about? About hacking only which are probably private(I doubt that there are any open ones) or about programming/social engineering related conferences which are almost always open.Both of them are paid of course.

[onemorexmr]

anyhow: i wish you luck; but i think the only place to get good blackhat stuff are conferences. maybe we'll meet us there someday

Thanks I'll for sure need it.About what kind of conferences are we talking about? About hacking only which are probably private(I doubt that there are any open ones) or about programming/social engineering related conferences which are almost always open.Both of them are paid of course.

http://www.ccc.de/de/updates/2012/29c3-not-my-department
alternating with:
http://events.ccc.de/camp/2011/Fahrplan/index.en.html

https://www.blackhat.com/us-14/ (only was there once... i dont really enjoy travelling in the usa any more)

there are many more; i do only visit ccc conferences and camps regulary (learned lockpicking there )

i like the ccc ones because they dont have a specific focus. network security; writing kernel modules; ipv6; hacking xbox all in one location for you to pick what you want to see - and wonderful people!

a few stories from there...

 - hacked (nay...lets call it overrun) the congress wlan with a friend to replace picture from spiegel.de (a news page) with others

 - sat next to a guy who need to ran away as the police comes... it turned out he changed the website of our police seniors to something funny

 - lockpicking contests are fun

[gravitate]

This stuff is very interesting I must admit.

[OgNasty]

Ever think about using your time to create something of value instead of trying to steal from others for a free ride?

[Alexis]

hahaha, what did you expect?
The only reason they sell those rubbish guides, is because people like you buy them.

[finlon]

hahaha, what did you expect?
The only reason they sell those rubbish guides, is because people like you buy them.

These guides usually sound very good when you hear about them. Things like hack Credit card , carding etc. But they just copy public information and put it in them, giving false advertising

[yakuza699]

hahaha, what did you expect?
The only reason they sell those rubbish guides, is because people like you buy them.

These guides usually sound very good when you hear about them. Things like hack Credit card , carding etc. But they just copy public information and put it in them, giving false advertising

Exactly! Could even say better.I brought those guides because expected to see something more unique than just google search results.I wish there would be some real stuff there.

Edit:First time I use reddit and this is my first post https://www.reddit.com/r/EvolutionMarket/comments/2xxrgc/dark_markets_are_dark_no_more/

[Hazir]

hahaha, what did you expect?
The only reason they sell those rubbish guides, is because people like you buy them.

These guides usually sound very good when you hear about them. Things like hack Credit card , carding etc. But they just copy public information and put it in them, giving false advertising

Exactly! Could even say better.I brought those guides because expected to see something more unique than just google search results.I wish there would be some real stuff there.

Forbidden fruit always tastes the best. And then people realize that they do not really want it or it is rotten. Actually information about 'secret' and 'awesome'  hacks or others illegal ways to earn some money available for everyone for a 'small' fee are just a plain scam.

[yakuza699]

Forbidden fruit always tastes the best. And then people realize that they do not really want it or it is rotten. Actually information about 'secret' and 'awesome'  hacks or others illegal ways to earn some money available for everyone for a 'small' fee are just a plain scam.

I am wondering If I would get some actually valuable information if I would buy a guide that is worth more than 0.2BTC or it just would be a totally same thing.Also is something wrong with my link https://www.reddit.com/r/EvolutionMarket/comments/2xxrgc/dark_markets_are_dark_no_more/ did I posted it correctly as it doesn't appear in the main subreddit https://www.reddit.com/r/EvolutionMarket/ did I posted it the way it was not meant to posted it's the first time I am using reddit.

[TheGr33k]

Haha the seller kept the ad making it clearly look copied. Stupid how people actually think that there is some magic money maker that takes zero effort. There is a reason they are for sale and not kept to there selves, because they never make money

[dragon321]

Think about it for a minute. If someone knows a good way to hack an atm for free cash (or anything similar) why would they sell it? Once the method is out it'll be fixed soon. Or you can keep it to yourself and enjoy the free cash. So yeah, what were you expecting?

[yakuza699]

Think about it for a minute. If someone knows a good way to hack an atm for free cash (or anything similar) why would they sell it? Once the method is out it'll be fixed soon. Or you can keep it to yourself and enjoy the free cash. So yeah, what were you expecting?

Well they could for sure sell the guide.It would take hell a lot of time to fix all atms in the world.Also he can do it himself while still selling the guides.

[dragon321]

Or he can keep it to himself and sell it once it stops working. I think this makes him more money?

[yakuza699]

Or he can keep it to himself and sell it once it stops working. I think this makes him more money?

If we are talking about atms specifically than no.It would take years to change atms all over the world I doubt that he will travel all around the world collecting the money from atms not mentioning that it is very risky.But everything else apart atms(and maybe some other things) I must agree with you.That would for sure make him more money.

[Bit_Happy]

"Dark Markets are Dark no more"
If possible, a more accurate/descriptive thread title would be nice.
I clicked here expecting some major news about (for example) Tor and the "Deep Web" having been proven to be compromised.

[yakuza699]

"Dark Markets are Dark no more"
If possible, a more accurate/descriptive thread title would be nice.
I clicked here expecting some major news about (for example) Tor and the "Deep Web" having been proven to be compromised.

I thought about it.But I couldn't think of a new name.What I meant by that name is that there is no "bad stuff" in there anymore apart drugs and guns.Any suggestions on the new name?If possible it should be as longs as the present one.

[Bit_Happy]

"Dark Markets are Dark no more"
If possible, a more accurate/descriptive thread title would be nice.
I clicked here expecting some major news about (for example) Tor and the "Deep Web" having been proven to be compromised.

I thought about it.But I couldn't think of a new name.What I meant by that name is that there is no "bad stuff" in there anymore apart drugs and guns.Any suggestions on the new name?If possible it should be as longs as the present one.

Sure, here a few ideas for a different thread title:
Dark Markets are selling worthless junk.
Have you seen the crap sold in dark places?
Why are Dark Markets selling worthless junk?
Where can I buy better "bad stuff"?  

[yakuza699]

Sure, here a few ideas for a different thread title:
Dark Markets are selling worthless junk.
Have you seen the crap sold in dark places?
Why are Dark Markets selling worthless junk?
Where can I buy better "bad stuff"?  

I really liked the last one but since it is already in the OP I decided to pick the first one.I think there will be no more misconception here.Thanks.