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March 05, 2015, 11:12:39 AM |
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So what you asked and what we thought is different. You want to open a thread with referral link in your local board about a service is which is already announced in main board? I think it is still a spam. Huh
You think everyone knows english? And everyone understand?
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March 05, 2015, 11:18:16 AM |
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So what you asked and what we thought is different. You want to open a thread with referral link in your local board about a service is which is already announced in main board? I think it is still a spam. Huh
You think everyone knows english? And everyone understand? I think the only thing you can do it is create a blog/site , put all your ref. links in that page and after you can create a thread and link your "page" (correct me if I'm wrong). Maybe the best forum board for this type of things is the "off Topic" section.
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March 05, 2015, 11:20:42 AM |
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This forum has functioned perfectly fine with the rules currently in place, if even I can post comfortably here without worrying about a ban there's something wrong with you.
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March 05, 2015, 11:24:46 AM |
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You dont understand me guys. I just dont like that rule about ref link sharing. Why is it spam in the local forum? Why is it spam? Just convince me
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March 05, 2015, 11:30:13 AM |
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You dont understand me guys. I just dont like that rule about ref link sharing. Why is it spam in the local forum? Why is it spam? Just convince me
Because the service is already announced and if one is created, numerous ref link spam posts would show up like a long chain. -MZ
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March 05, 2015, 12:01:19 PM |
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You dont understand me guys. I just dont like that rule about ref link sharing. Why is it spam in the local forum? Why is it spam? Just convince me
Because the service is already announced and if one is created, numerous ref link spam posts would show up like a long chain. -MZ But i dont mean global forum. I mean local forum. Not everyone read global forum.
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March 05, 2015, 12:03:47 PM |
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You dont understand me guys. I just dont like that rule about ref link sharing. Why is it spam in the local forum? Why is it spam? Just convince me
It's already been explained to you why. There are plenty of rules here and in the real world that people don't like but sometimes we just have to play by them. I really don't understand why you are so persistent in being able to spam post your ref links as people barely ever get refs directly from them anyway but post them all over in the hope they do. You're just going to have to deal with this rule as it's not going to change.
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March 05, 2015, 02:06:25 PM |
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We aren't going to allow referal spam, even with 100 million votes for yes, this isn't one of those on the fence, questionable, lets hear from the community to decide sort of situations. Its a little bit irritating that I went through the time to fully explain to you, yet you felt the need to make essentially a spam thread, if this wasn't in meta it would be removed as spam. I'm sort of seeing a theme here though, perhaps you should aquaint yourself with what spam really means.
Are you moderator? Or dictator?
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March 05, 2015, 02:09:37 PM |
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You dont understand me guys. I just dont like that rule about ref link sharing. Why is it spam in the local forum? Why is it spam? Just convince me
It's already been explained to you why. There are plenty of rules here and in the real world that people don't like but sometimes we just have to play by them. I really don't understand why you are so persistent in being able to spam post your ref links as people barely ever get refs directly from them anyway but post them all over in the hope they do. You're just going to have to deal with this rule as it's not going to change. Coz i dont think it is spam to share ref link if you are the first who start the topic in the local forum
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March 05, 2015, 02:16:29 PM |
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But how will you know if you're the first to post a specific link? It's hard to tell and timewasting for mods to check to see if it's a duplicate so it's best just to not allow them as much as you disagree with it.
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March 05, 2015, 02:32:14 PM |
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But how will you know if you're the first to post a specific link? It's hard to tell and timewasting for mods to check to see if it's a duplicate so it's best just to not allow them as much as you disagree with it.
Local forums are not much big . Local Moderators can control on it. And everyone can report if it is the not first. If there is the same thread we ll report or mod delete the spam
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March 05, 2015, 03:31:42 PM |
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We would change the rules in Local forums . Like the united states of america. Every state has different rules. Some rules centralizied and some rules decentralizied in the usa. We could fix that to our forum rules
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March 05, 2015, 07:41:56 PM |
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Promoting referral links is considered spamming everywhere but having a signature with a referral link I guess is fine while some forums don't even allow that.
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March 05, 2015, 08:35:00 PM |
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To my opinion;
If a person discover a service from service ann. Or from somewhere and introduce it in local forum by translating, he has to share his ref link in his post. But not the signature section coz we use that section for signature campaign.
In the same local forum, if another person opens a thread about the same service and gives his ref link then it might be accepted as a spam but not first ones.
So, in the local forums, it must be free to give ref link if the thread and service is new.
I don't have an opinion but your poll is not clear without reading your message. It looks like you are asking if the forum rules are generally good or bad.
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March 05, 2015, 09:42:56 PM |
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Add some details to your poll, like what needs to be changed, not just Change rules or not. When I first read your post I was confused about what you were talking about.
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March 06, 2015, 01:35:50 AM |
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This forum has over 10 million posts, and more than 400,000 threads. I rounded those figures down a bit to make up for the fact that the majority of them are in non local boards. There are 19 local boards. If we start letting people copy and spam referal links, you could potentially see 19 redundant threads for every one original one. We aren't going to ruin the forum for the majority of the users, just so it can be your personal spamming ground.
As I've said a hundred times, but I'm sure you wont listen. We aren't changing the rules to allow spamming. Anti spamming measures make up what, 80% of the forums rules? Give it up, you are wasting your time, and I'm wasting my own time responding to you. You can make whatever proposals you would like on your own forum. Good luck attracting members.
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March 06, 2015, 01:57:36 AM |
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In theory if he made a strong enough argument then the rule would be changed. The administration is fair that way, if a strong argument is made for a change and such change is not going to open the forum up for any potential legal repercussions then changes will be made. The thing is that there is really no realistic argument to allow for referral spam
No, no it wouldn't, not on this matter which I explained to him in the previous thread. Referal links are not banned, as I explained in my other post (which I will quote below) referal links can be acceptable, however there are a few conditions, and 95% of the time, people don't follow those conditions, creating the misconception that referal links are banned in general. The OP is not fighting for the right to have referal links, the OP is fighting for the right to spam, which under no circumstance will be changed as a rule. There seems to be a huge amount of missing context, especially what the OP is "fighting" for, and how he has already been answered by more than myself. Start here if you want the full context: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.msg10660811#msg10660811I have read the relevant portion of that thread. I probably did a bad job of explaining what I was saying, and I am using a bad example, but that is not the point I was trying to make. My point was that if someone were to make a strong argument to modify "Rule A" and this change has the general support of the community then the administration will modify "Rule A". The reason that referral spam will never be allowed is because there is no valid argument to allow it.
One additional point I would make about why referral spam should not be allowed is that the forum has a policy against having duplicate threads discussing the same subject. Having multiple threads discussing the same thing makes it difficult to follow a conversation and only adds confusion.
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March 06, 2015, 04:08:18 AM |
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he has to share his ref link in his post. But not the signature section coz we use that section for signature campaign.
Ref link AND signature campaign? You can't have your cake and eat it too - that's a universal rule.
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March 07, 2015, 04:31:16 PM |
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Firstly, i thank you so much to moderator who banned me . Congratulation. You did save the world from a spam. Bravo!!! Since it is not clearly explained/understood, i lock the thread and open a new thread for discussion. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=980426.0
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March 07, 2015, 04:37:22 PM |
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Firstly, i thank you so much to moderator who banned me . Congratulation. You did save the world from a spam. Bravo!!! Since it is not clearly explained/understood, i lock the thread and open a new thread for discussion. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=980426.0What do you mean banned you? How are you banned? You don't need to open another topic on this.
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