Change the rules!

[olcaytu2005]

To my opinion;

If a person discover a service from service ann. Or from somewhere and introduce it in local forum by translating, he has to share his ref link in his post. But not the signature section coz we use that section for signature campaign.

In the same local forum, if another person opens a thread about the same service and gives his ref link then it might be accepted as a spam but not first ones.

So, in the local forums, it must be free to give ref link if the thread and service is new.

[olcaytu2005]

Dont be afraid guys !  Ref link is spam or ref link needs to be free?

[hilariousandco]

You probably should give more info because most people won't have any clue what you're talking about. For those that don't, he wants to be able to post his ref links without having them deleted or removed: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.msg10661224#msg10661224

[(oYo)]

You probably should give more info because most people won't have any clue what you're talking about. For those that don't, he wants to be able to post his ref links without having them deleted or removed: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.msg10661224#msg10661224

LOL. OK, I see now. I was going to ask him to elaborate, when I first saw his post, but then I was like, whatever idgaf and just left instead. 

@olcaytu2005, Just give it up. You won't win. If you don't like the rules, make your own website. The most you'll get out of this pursuit is a ban. 

[SaltySpitoon]

We aren't going to allow referal spam, even with 100 million votes for yes, this isn't one of those on the fence, questionable, lets hear from the community to decide sort of situations. Its a little bit irritating that I went through the time to fully explain to you, yet you felt the need to make essentially a spam thread, if this wasn't in meta it would be removed as spam. I'm sort of seeing a theme here though, perhaps you should aquaint yourself with what spam really means.

[funtotry]

Can someone link me to these rules? I have no idea what you are talking about. Last time I checked there were no rules on this site lol. Just don't scam and don't spam. Also ban evasion is a rule as well but everyone and their grandma has an alt account these days.

[yenzae0215]

i dont like refferal links to be allowed as it will only increase spam posts...

[funtotry]

i dont like refferal links to be allowed as it will only increase spam posts...

Ref links should DEFINITELY be banned, except for signatures where they should be allowed. If you are advertising you want to be able to track which user is referring people from signature campaigns, so they can see who is most effective. But if you are advertising your OWN site, ref links are not needed, and advertising other peoples sites should not be having ref links

[freedomno1]

I was wondering what the topic was myself reading the OP
Was vague anyways looking at it in terms of ref links not really something to encouraged unless it was relevant to a user question
Say X wants to know where to gamble Y replies with a site then ref link they can optionally use if they are interested
Even then it should be in signatures only for most cases anyways this fits in mod power so if they say no answer is nope

[yenzae0215]

Can someone link me to these rules? I have no idea what you are talking about. Last time I checked there were no rules on this site lol. Just don't scam and don't spam. Also ban evasion is a rule as well but everyone and their grandma has an alt account these days.

is this what you are looking for?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0

[devthedev]

Can someone link me to these rules? I have no idea what you are talking about. Last time I checked there were no rules on this site lol. Just don't scam and don't spam. Also ban evasion is a rule as well but everyone and their grandma has an alt account these days.

There's a little bit more than that, here's the official unofficial list of official rules.

[BitcoinFr34k]

Can someone link me to these rules? I have no idea what you are talking about. Last time I checked there were no rules on this site lol. Just don't scam and don't spam. Also ban evasion is a rule as well but everyone and their grandma has an alt account these days.

here is a unofficial list of the official rules.

The OP appears to be upset about his referral spam being deleted.

We aren't going to allow referal spam, even with 100 million votes for yes, this isn't one of those on the fence, questionable, lets hear from the community to decide sort of situations. Its a little bit irritating that I went through the time to fully explain to you, yet you felt the need to make essentially a spam thread, if this wasn't in meta it would be removed as spam. I'm sort of seeing a theme here though, perhaps you should aquaint yourself with what spam really means.

In theory if he made a strong enough argument then the rule would be changed. The administration is fair that way, if a strong argument is made for a change and such change is not going to open the forum up for any potential legal repercussions then changes will be made. The thing is that there is really no realistic argument to allow for referral spam

[Grand_Voyageur]

What is your opinion?

I'm happy with the actual rules; so, I don't feel a need to change them.

You probably should give more info because most people won't have any clue what you're talking about. For those that don't, he wants to be able to post his ref links without having them deleted or removed: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.msg10661224#msg10661224

Oh, really? Maybe is just another of the immature spammers who cannot live with the consequences (ban) of their actions (ref links spam).

[waterpile]

I'm happy with the current forum rules. I think it doesn't need to be changed and it will improve as time goes on.

[SaltySpitoon]

In theory if he made a strong enough argument then the rule would be changed. The administration is fair that way, if a strong argument is made for a change and such change is not going to open the forum up for any potential legal repercussions then changes will be made. The thing is that there is really no realistic argument to allow for referral spam

No, no it wouldn't, not on this matter which I explained to him in the previous thread. Referal links are not banned, as I explained in my other post (which I will quote below) referal links can be acceptable, however there are a few conditions, and 95% of the time, people don't follow those conditions, creating the misconception that referal links are banned in general. The OP is not fighting for the right to have referal links, the OP is fighting for the right to spam, which under no circumstance will be changed as a rule. There seems to be a huge amount of missing context, especially what the OP is "fighting" for, and how he has already been answered by more than myself.

Start here if you want the full context: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.msg10660811#msg10660811

Dont remind me the rules guy. This is not my rules. This is moderators rules and i dont accept theese rules. If we believe the philosophy of bitcoin then we need to create new rules. Coz theese rules centralize but Bitcoin decentralize. Everyone needs to say  his mind aboutthe rules. Moderators just create rules,delete posts and ban users? Is that all you do? If you moderator you have to solve my problem

See, theres a difference between a decentralized currency, and a forum about that decentralized currency. If you want to create a forum that has no rules at all, you are welcome to, but I'd highly recommend a really really good lawyer, as people can post some pretty.... interesting stuff that you can be held liable for as the owner of the site. There are indeed rules here, however I and most others believe they are pretty relaxed, the fact that most rules aren't hardfast (the reason for this list of unofficial rules) is because it's a lot better to leave judgements up to a group of freethinking individuals, rather than a slab with forum policy inscribed. The fact that moderators are seen more as janitors is probably a good indicator that all in all everything is running well.

While we don't have to solve your problems, if they are related to an issue on this forum, then chances are we would like to help. Ask in an appropriate way, and you will get a response regardless of whether we can help you or not.

If your problem is that you would like to break a rule, but we are stopping you, thats not one of those things we can really help. First off, everyone above is correct, you aren't allowed to have multiple threads of the same topic. Second, referal links are more often than not removed. If you are creating a thread to share your referal link, its spam. Pretty much the only exception to when referal links are not spam, is if someone else starts a thread, for instance asking what exchange they should use. And you respond with a quality post with content related to the OP, include a referal link and say, if you want to try this exchange, heres my referal link, that is fine. You are right, people have the right to click on someone's referal link if they want. Priority however is held with having the right to not have to deal with spam, and also the right not to be tricked into clicking a referal link.

If you don't agree, theres not really much more to be said, make your own lawless forum, and I wish you luck.

[megamore]

I think the rules of this forum is good
I really appreciate to all moderators who have worked for the good of this forum 

[redsn0w]

I voted for "no" , the forum rules are working very fine, the ref link isn't allowed where is the problem ?

[olcaytu2005]

To my opinion;

If a person discover a service from service ann. Or from somewhere and introduce it in local forum by translating, he has to share his ref link in his post. But not the signature section coz we use that section for signature campaign.

In the same local forum, if another person opens a thread about the same service and gives his ref link then it might be accepted as a spam but not first ones.

So, in the local forums, it must be free to give ref link if the thread and service is new.

[Muhammed Zakir]

I voted for 'no'. Good to know only one person voted for 'yes' and I think it is you.

I voted for "no" , the forum rules are working very fine, the ref link isn't allowed where is the problem ?

Ban is the problem.

To resolve your doubts or to ask you some things:

If a person discover a service from service ann. Or from somewhere and introduce it in local forum by translating, he has to share his ref link in his post. But not the signature section coz we use that section for signature campaign.

"Has to"? It isn't necessary to shar your ref link, why can't you translate without putting a ref link?

In the same local forum, if another person opens a thread about the same service and gives his ref link then it might be accepted as a spam but not first ones.

Not "might", it 'will' and 'must' be.

So, in the local forums, it must be free to give ref link if the thread and service is new.

So what you asked and what we thought is different. You want to open a thread with referral link in your local board about a service is which is already announced in main board? I think it is still a spam.

FYI: If you have ref link in your signature and you are pointing to your signature instead of putting your ref link in the post, it is still considered as spam.

   -MZ

[olcaytu2005]

I voted for 'no'. Good to know only one person voted for 'yes' and I think it is you.

   -MZ

I believe myself and i believe i am true. I dont care even if all of the world against to me.