Paypal chargeback, for the third time

[crazyearner]

Simple answer is to never do this. Never use paypal for this reason as many just scam charge back and end up losing the dispute. I have had this pulled on me a number of times in the past but I had enough evidence to sustain what was said what was agreed. With images and also screen recording that provided eveidence of the transaction taking place me sending the coin and them receiving it and them saying payment received etc. Some I had to take legal action on with paypal as they suspended my account once in the past for trading Bitcoin but I had them to rights due to what I had spoke about to support in emails and theri responses to and eventually got my account back and funds.

Now tho I will never do BTC for paypal or even Paypal for BTC unless it is close friends  I actually know and wanting a helping hand at times. Other than that no way would ever do trading with paypal for buying or selling.

[funtotry]

Simple answer is to never do this. Never use paypal for this reason as many just scam charge back and end up losing the dispute. I have had this pulled on me a number of times in the past but I had enough evidence to sustain what was said what was agreed. With images and also screen recording that provided eveidence of the transaction taking place me sending the coin and them receiving it and them saying payment received etc. Some I had to take legal action on with paypal as they suspended my account once in the past for trading Bitcoin but I had them to rights due to what I had spoke about to support in emails and theri responses to and eventually got my account back and funds.

Now tho I will never do BTC for paypal or even Paypal for BTC unless it is close friends  I actually know and wanting a helping hand at times. Other than that no way would ever do trading with paypal for buying or selling.

Same, I will never deal with BTC-Paypal or even paypal -> random user ever again. Only trusted companies. Paypal is MUCH friendlier towards buyers hence why if you sell BTC they always win. Paypal with a reputable company however is a good solution. I was scammed on localbitcoins, I had the signed transaction with the user, transaction ID, trade ID on the site, proof of everything including the seller telling me, but I still lost the dispute. I contacted BBB and they took 3 months for paypal to tell me the same copy pasted message. Only 70$ but if it were 700$ or something like that I would have gone the legal route and took action. Paypal is pretty ridiculous sometimes.

[MarkMJ]

Same, I will never deal with BTC-Paypal or even paypal -> random user ever again. Only trusted companies. Paypal is MUCH friendlier towards buyers hence why if you sell BTC they always win. Paypal with a reputable company however is a good solution. I was scammed on localbitcoins, I had the signed transaction with the user, transaction ID, trade ID on the site, proof of everything including the seller telling me, but I still lost the dispute. I contacted BBB and they took 3 months for paypal to tell me the same copy pasted message. Only 70$ but if it were 700$ or something like that I would have gone the legal route and took action. Paypal is pretty ridiculous sometimes.

Hello dear,

You can deal via your PP >>  BTC I don't know why not
You for 70$ don't do nothing / anything but me for 50$ I contact all webiste that are connected somehow with paypal
AND I WIN.
I struggled because they were my money

[Wardrick]

Can you tell us the reason you accepted Paypal from CandyStripes even though his forum account was loaded with negative feedback and his overall reputation on the forum was that he was a scammer. This was backed with a lot of proof. There are several trusted sources you can use to exchange Bitcoin to Paypal and you chose someone that was the exact opposite of trusted according to almost everyone that's had the pleasure of seeing all the threads and topics he and others had made involving his situation. I'd like to know the reasoning of why you sent money to him, I don't see how you could trust someone like that even if you did talk to him a lot. There really is no hope for scam prevention for people like you if you still going to conduct business which involves risking money to someone who is already a proven scam artist. I've seen this happen many times and I fail to see the reasoning how some people can just dump 1000's of dollars in some cases to complete strangers with minimal to no trading history or in this case a proven scammer. Although not close to that amount of money, if you have things like a computer, internet, forum profile, paypal account, etc, you should have the knowledge to not send money to proven scammers and not just blindly and mindlessly do something without thinking of the consequences just because there's a computer right in front of you which gives you the ability to do it.

[funtotry]

Can you tell us the reason you accepted Paypal from CandyStripes even though his forum account was loaded with negative feedback and his overall reputation on the forum was that he was a scammer. This was backed with a lot of proof. There are several trusted sources you can use to exchange Bitcoin to Paypal and you chose someone that was the exact opposite of trusted according to almost everyone that's had the pleasure of seeing all the threads and topics he and others had made involving his situation. I'd like to know the reasoning of why you sent money to him, I don't see how you could trust someone like that even if you did talk to him a lot. There really is no hope for scam prevention for people like you if you still going to conduct business which involves risking money to someone who is already a proven scam artist. I've seen this happen many times and I fail to see the reasoning how some people can just dump 1000's of dollars in some cases to complete strangers with minimal to no trading history or in this case a proven scammer. Although not close to that amount of money, if you have things like a computer, internet, forum profile, paypal account, etc, you should have the knowledge to not send money to proven scammers and not just blindly and mindlessly do something without thinking of the consequences just because there's a computer right in front of you which gives you the ability to do it.

I did many deals with him before, never REALLY checked his trust but I knew there was negative trust. I also had him on skype for a while and I was so trusting cause we did like 5 more deals previous to that.

[Berau]

Can you tell us the reason you accepted Paypal from CandyStripes even though his forum account was loaded with negative feedback and his overall reputation on the forum was that he was a scammer. This was backed with a lot of proof. There are several trusted sources you can use to exchange Bitcoin to Paypal and you chose someone that was the exact opposite of trusted according to almost everyone that's had the pleasure of seeing all the threads and topics he and others had made involving his situation. I'd like to know the reasoning of why you sent money to him, I don't see how you could trust someone like that even if you did talk to him a lot. There really is no hope for scam prevention for people like you if you still going to conduct business which involves risking money to someone who is already a proven scam artist. I've seen this happen many times and I fail to see the reasoning how some people can just dump 1000's of dollars in some cases to complete strangers with minimal to no trading history or in this case a proven scammer. Although not close to that amount of money, if you have things like a computer, internet, forum profile, paypal account, etc, you should have the knowledge to not send money to proven scammers and not just blindly and mindlessly do something without thinking of the consequences just because there's a computer right in front of you which gives you the ability to do it.

I did many deals with him before, never REALLY checked his trust but I knew there was negative trust. I also had him on skype for a while and I was so trusting cause we did like 5 more deals previous to that.

Weird because on PD he's actually having 2 accounts, ejaculation and candystripes.

He scammed me out of a account I was selling(Whitelisted), I was trying to help him back in the days of PD2 and he said he needed to test out his betting bot(Never trust a person who gambles), I had a whitelisted account that someone gave to me and decided to help him since he needed a higher paying faucet.

He revealed my password while broadcasting through join.me and at that day, there was a loan request posted on PD. Thankfully one mod that had my google hangouts pointed out his style of posting isn't exactly like mine, and told him to go on to google hangouts. My account got banned from posting because of that incident.

He's probably creating new alts on bitcointalk most likely.

[MarkMJ]

Hello dear,

I did many deals with him before, never REALLY checked his trust but I knew there was negative trust. I also had him on skype for a while and I was so trusting cause we did like 5 more deals previous to that.

My question is simple!
Do you believe in all you just say?

2. We exchanged $50, $20, and $17 in the course of a week.

Ok,so this is not trust,by making some low transaction one by one with amount of 17 and 20.

[erikalui]

Hence the reason why many don't deal with PayPal. I have a question here that which kind of payment cannot be disputed? Gift category payments or other kind of payments via PayPal?

Usually I have heard that payments sent under the "Goods" category are chargedback but I am not sure of this.

[funtotry]

Hello dear,

I did many deals with him before, never REALLY checked his trust but I knew there was negative trust. I also had him on skype for a while and I was so trusting cause we did like 5 more deals previous to that.

My question is simple!
Do you believe in all you just say?

2. We exchanged $50, $20, and $17 in the course of a week.

Ok,so this is not trust,by making some low transaction one by one with amount of 17 and 20.

No no it was much further than that. The money was all sent in 1 day and that was the 50 20 and 17 to make a total of about 80.

[mayax]

a lot of stories about Paypal scams:

http://www.paypalsucks.com/

[luciann]

candystripes is a known scammer, and using multiple alt account names. dont bother with paypal.

[koshgel]

3rd time... And with Candystripes.. Come on man

At some point you gotten sharpen up and cut your losses. I wouldn't use PayPal anymore if I was you.

[BitcoinFr34k]

Can you tell us the reason you accepted Paypal from CandyStripes even though his forum account was loaded with negative feedback and his overall reputation on the forum was that he was a scammer. This was backed with a lot of proof. There are several trusted sources you can use to exchange Bitcoin to Paypal and you chose someone that was the exact opposite of trusted according to almost everyone that's had the pleasure of seeing all the threads and topics he and others had made involving his situation. I'd like to know the reasoning of why you sent money to him, I don't see how you could trust someone like that even if you did talk to him a lot. There really is no hope for scam prevention for people like you if you still going to conduct business which involves risking money to someone who is already a proven scam artist. I've seen this happen many times and I fail to see the reasoning how some people can just dump 1000's of dollars in some cases to complete strangers with minimal to no trading history or in this case a proven scammer. Although not close to that amount of money, if you have things like a computer, internet, forum profile, paypal account, etc, you should have the knowledge to not send money to proven scammers and not just blindly and mindlessly do something without thinking of the consequences just because there's a computer right in front of you which gives you the ability to do it.

I did many deals with him before, never REALLY checked his trust but I knew there was negative trust. I also had him on skype for a while and I was so trusting cause we did like 5 more deals previous to that.

You don't have to check his trust in order to see that he has negative trust. Any time you look at his profile, or anytime you look at his post in the marketplace, or anytime you read a PM from him you will see the negative trust as well as a big red warning saying to trade with caution.

Not only that but it is very well known by pretty much the entire forum that CandyStripes is a scammer and you should avoid doing business with him, period. IMO you are an idiot for even considering doing business with him.

[funtotry]

Can you tell us the reason you accepted Paypal from CandyStripes even though his forum account was loaded with negative feedback and his overall reputation on the forum was that he was a scammer. This was backed with a lot of proof. There are several trusted sources you can use to exchange Bitcoin to Paypal and you chose someone that was the exact opposite of trusted according to almost everyone that's had the pleasure of seeing all the threads and topics he and others had made involving his situation. I'd like to know the reasoning of why you sent money to him, I don't see how you could trust someone like that even if you did talk to him a lot. There really is no hope for scam prevention for people like you if you still going to conduct business which involves risking money to someone who is already a proven scam artist. I've seen this happen many times and I fail to see the reasoning how some people can just dump 1000's of dollars in some cases to complete strangers with minimal to no trading history or in this case a proven scammer. Although not close to that amount of money, if you have things like a computer, internet, forum profile, paypal account, etc, you should have the knowledge to not send money to proven scammers and not just blindly and mindlessly do something without thinking of the consequences just because there's a computer right in front of you which gives you the ability to do it.

I did many deals with him before, never REALLY checked his trust but I knew there was negative trust. I also had him on skype for a while and I was so trusting cause we did like 5 more deals previous to that.

You don't have to check his trust in order to see that he has negative trust. Any time you look at his profile, or anytime you look at his post in the marketplace, or anytime you read a PM from him you will see the negative trust as well as a big red warning saying to trade with caution.

Not only that but it is very well known by pretty much the entire forum that CandyStripes is a scammer and you should avoid doing business with him, period. IMO you are an idiot for even considering doing business with him.

Well I would have not started business with him if I didn't have any previous experience with him, but I had him on skype, he msged me, and its been multiple months, or even maybe up to a year I knew him. The previous txs (probably 150$ total) all went perfectly well, so I assumed he wouldn't scam on this one based on our trust.

[mayax]

3rd time... And with Candystripes.. Come on man

At some point you gotten sharpen up and cut your losses. I wouldn't use PayPal anymore if I was you.

I don't understand why the BTC users are still using Paypal

[mrhelpful]

3rd time... And with Candystripes.. Come on man

At some point you gotten sharpen up and cut your losses. I wouldn't use PayPal anymore if I was you.

I don't understand why the BTC users are still using Paypal

Most find it easy to use since its linked to their credit cards.

In this case I`m sure you prove to the issuer of his credit card company, and get his funds as a legit purchase. but not by contacting paypal. You need to get a hold of the credit card issuer meaning the credit card co. eg: chase, mastercard.

Describe your bitcoin as $80 physical items, like a PSU or something else then a digital item.

You explain the charges and what happened and they will send you a form in the mail, but the customer support on the line will transfer the call to immediately retract after hearing your story. You act like a gullible person, they will pretty much take your side and consider it was huge event which you weren't aware of, which is true.

Then just sign off the paper work, and then send the mail back. Which is the a letter of confirmation, on what you have told is the truth.

[nor9865]

This is a funny thread. Let's go through this step by step, since this thread makes me look like a scammer:

1. We used to exchange alot. Sometimes up to $100+. He trusted me, I trusted him.
2. We exchanged $50, $20, and $17 in the course of a week.
3. Suddenly my PayPal was limited, and PayPal AUTOMATICALLY chargedback my last 5 sent transactions.
4. I won the chargebacks
5. My account is limited so the money is sitting there.
6. I had a friend send him $150, and I made a new PayPal and sent him $27 on top to cover it.
7. Now he is holding $177 of my money. He owes me $90.

Waiting for him to come online and hand over the $90.

I may have attempted to extort, but williamj2543 is the REAL scammer. Look at his trust: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=191301

Don't know how he's not neg repped yet, he's a HUGE scammer. And this thread is a deceiving, misguiding lie.

Your a weak hearted whore that don't deserve oxygen. Whores make the world go round though don't they.

[WhatTheGox]

3rd time... And with Candystripes.. Come on man

At some point you gotten sharpen up and cut your losses. I wouldn't use PayPal anymore if I was you.

I don't understand why the BTC users are still using Paypal

Most find it easy to use since its linked to their credit cards.

Yeah but try getting a refund from a paypal transaction can take a long time if not paid for with paypal balance. Users dont like this.

[mayax]

3rd time... And with Candystripes.. Come on man

At some point you gotten sharpen up and cut your losses. I wouldn't use PayPal anymore if I was you.

I don't understand why the BTC users are still using Paypal

Most find it easy to use since its linked to their credit cards.

Yeah but try getting a refund from a paypal transaction can take a long time if not paid for with paypal balance. Users dont like this.

it's very risky to accept payments from Paypal. your account can be locked and the payments reversed anytime.

a lot of stories here: http://paypalsucks.com/

[BrianM]

Yeah but try getting a refund from a paypal transaction can take a long time if not paid for with paypal balance. Users dont like this.

it's very risky to accept payments from Paypal. your account can be locked and the payments reversed anytime.

a lot of stories here: http://paypalsucks.com/
[/quote]

This is my main concern of Paypal, that you can actually have your account locked very easy.
I got my account locked simply because I moved and have to change my address.
That was apperently so suspecious that paypal wanted me to send in adresss prove, so I did,
then did I have to make a test transfer (1 EUR) from my credit card, and send in prove of the transaction.

You know what happend next???
Then did thay want me to send in a copy of my passport.... this is where I said STOP.
I called paypal to make sure that I did not get in the hands of one of those nasty phiphers, no it was really paypal who wanted all that, I refuse to send ind a copy of my passport, that could be horrible missused if leaked. So from that day and forth is paypal not my "pal" anymore, I abbanded my account and never used paypal again. Nasty, nasty, nasty company. Not recomended