Additional moderator required in the italian board

[alexrossi]

First of all, sorry for my poor english but is not my native language.

Local sections activity highly varies depending on the country, but surely the italian one is one of the most populated, and in the last months has passed a massive growth also in terms of subsections. Although i think that Hostfat, the current moderator, is doing a good job in the reports management, i also personally think that we need an extra moderator, for two main reasons:

1) The report function in my experience is not used so much by italian users, requiring that someone (hopefully more than one person) sort manually and constantly the threads deleting obvius spam and repeated uncostructive posts. And this is surely a tedius job for one mod, that maybe isn't interested in all of the local board contents, so it's accustomed to patrol less some subsections.

2) The numbers. At the time of writing this post, italian board has >120k posts and >7k threads. French local board has less than the half of these numbers, but two moderators; Spanish board, that is almost the same as size of the italian board, has actually three mods. I think that these are good examples about the people required to properly manage a local board like the italian one.

Even though i'd like to be a moderator, i also want to link two other italian users that in my opinion are absolutely elegible for a task like this:

ziomik: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=27427
Stemby: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=18953

While i'm sure there are a lot of other good users, i vouch for them cause i know both since a long time and they have all the requirements to be good moderators.

I'm not going to do a poll because it's generally easy to manipulate, instead, i think that every italian user that agree with my opinion should post here, eventually with other suggestions (for ex. who of us should manage this task).

[hilariousandco]

I think theymos' advice is to usually create a thread in your section and discuss amongst yourselves who would be best for the job or if people think more moderators are needed. You don't have to put it to a poll as that is easily manipulated but open discussion from active members is always better.

[pedrosoft]

Agree with you 😊 There are too many threads and messages to check for only one moderator. It's a impossible work ! I think alexrossi is the right man at the right moment 😉

[alexrossi]

You don't have to put it to a poll as that is easily manipulated but open discussion from active members is always better.

Exactly what i've written in OP

I'm not going to do a poll because it's generally easy to manipulate, instead, i think that every italian user that agree with my opinion should post here, eventually with other suggestions (for ex. who of us should manage this task).

For the sake of reference (if, as i can imagine, other active local members opinion are important) i think that in this case it's better to post in english.

[redsn0w]

Maybe alexrossi has right the italian section needs a new moderator (there is a lot of work) and I vote for alexrossi, but I would like also to "nominate" myself to be a moderator if it is possible. I'm online here almost all the day, and report a lot of posts/users.

[marnem]

I m agree with alexrossi... We need another mod... Stemby and ziomik are good choices.

[grue]

relevant:

You should create a topic in the Russian section to discuss whether a new moderator is necessary and, if so, who the new moderator should be. (Do not take a vote, though.) If there is consensus that one or more specific people should be made moderators, then I will (almost always) do it.

[Kay0r]

Altough i'm not active anymore, i lurk in that section regularly, and i completely agree with alexrossi.
Bear in mind that the current moderator is doing a pretty good job, but someone else is needed to take care of more mundane tasks, such as those specified by the OP.
The people listed as candidates seems good choices, they're all active and polite.

[xandry]

relevant:

You should create a topic in the Russian section to discuss whether a new moderator is necessary and, if so, who the new moderator should be. (Do not take a vote, though.) If there is consensus that one or more specific people should be made moderators, then I will (almost always) do it.

He\they will lose if half or more of the users do not want to have any moderator; if it is profitable to have a section without moderator:
You can participate in the signatures campaign and write in Russian boards somewhere "need to write thirtieth message - write" or comment on the same thing the same way every week
Or they place referral links
Or someone have multiple accounts for gambling.

Poll in russian board showed 22 to 25 (here). 25 votes for LZ, that can be regarded as the absence of moderator. LZ last Active:    February 17

Only who moderated russian board is you grue, but only in the most obvious cases. That it's better than nothing, spammers in panic.

By the way, redsn0w has a very good reputation on this forum, so I am vote for him (if i can) to make an additional moderator for Italian board.

[Muhammed Zakir]

Like theymos mentioned, poll isn't a good idea. People should make their vote by posting in the thread in that local board, here it is 'Italian'.

@alexrossi: Would be good if you create a thread there(if you haven't). Any others are welcome too if you need to make this little faster

   -MZ

[alexrossi]

@alexrossi: Would be good if you create a thread there(if you haven't). Any others are welcome too if you need to make this little faster

Well, i haven't done it but for a good reason, we have a public chat on Telegram when we've already talked about it, so almost all the interested italian members are aware of this thread.

[bitcoinplaza]

io mi esprimo in francese che è la lingua che so meglio, Host hai rotto la minchia !

[xandry]

io mi esprimo in francese che è la lingua che so meglio, Host hai rotto la minchia !

Forum rules

9. Discussions in the main boards must be in english. All other language discussions should be posted in the appropriate Local board.

[hilariousandco]

io mi esprimo in francese che è la lingua che so meglio, Host hai rotto la minchia !

Forum rules

9. Discussions in the main boards must be in english. All other language discussions should be posted in the appropriate Local board.

I think it may be allowed or ok in this instance given the subject matter, though maybe this thread is better off being moved to the Italian section instead.

[alexrossi]

I think it may be allowed or ok in this instance given the subject matter, though maybe this thread is better off being moved to the Italian section instead.

bitcoinplaza is just joking, but for the italian section i've already written this, that should clarify why I've directly posted this thread in meta section:

Well, i haven't done it but for a good reason, we have a public chat on Telegram when we've already talked about it, so almost all the interested italian members are aware of this thread.

[HostFat]

Just my opinion
From all the reports that I receive, and I consider many of them too much "aggressive" (I'm not sure about the right word)
If I'll take an action for all of them, maybe the italian section could become the "reign of terror", where user will start on censoring themselves, and maybe someone will totally give up on writing.

There are also some biased "votes" on this discussion

So I think that adding another mod isn't a good idea, actually.

Well, i haven't done it but for a good reason, we have a public chat on Telegram when we've already talked about it, so almost all the interested italian members are aware of this thread.

Just to be more precise, this doesn't mean that everyone were thinking that it was a good idea (I think the opposite, but sure I'm biased )

There are other people that I feel better to become mod (from their reports and imho their way of participate in matters) that I think that are even better then some mentioned on this discussion.
Anyway, I still think that I don't need other help actually for the report that I receive.

Maybe I'll add something (edit) so that the "Report to moderator" is more "notable". Many italians still don't know english, so maybe some of them even don't know the meaning of it

EDIT
And it's kinda funny that all this discussion is started because I asked to not spam about Ethereum on one of my discussion on the italian project sub-section
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=975510.msg10653568#msg10653568

[redsn0w]

There is also the Português (Portuguese) section that has 2 moderators but only | 33154 Posts 3392 Topics | I think we need a second moderator that can check the section and help HostFat.

[Gianluca95]

There is also the Português (Portuguese) section that has 2 moderators but only | 33154 Posts 3392 Topics | I think we need a second moderator that can check the section and help HostFat.

Of course. I think that another moderator in the italian section is required (considering that the italian section is one of the most populated section of this forum). It would be a great help for our actual moderator HostFat 

[Amph]

i don't know, if Hostfat can keep everything clean, 1 mod could be enough, otherwise another one is necessary, but sometime the italian section isn't that populated to justify it

[alexrossi]

kinda funny that all this discussion is started because I asked to not spam about Ethereum on one of my discussion on the italian project sub-section
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=975510.msg10653568#msg10653568

We are missing the point

First of all

Although i think that Hostfat, the current moderator, is doing a good job in the reports management, i also personally think that we need an extra moderator, for two main reasons:

Second, and the main reason of why in my opinion it's needed an extra mod (also that originally stated in the OP)

1) The report function in my experience is not used so much by italian users, requiring that someone (hopefully more than one person) sort manually and constantly the threads deleting obvius spam and repeated uncostructive posts. And this is surely a tedius job for one mod, that maybe isn't interested in all of the local board contents, so it's accustomed to patrol less some subsections.

Just to be more precise, this doesn't mean that everyone were thinking that it was a good idea Wink (I think the opposite, but sure I'm biased Grin)

And what's the matter? I mean, if someone with the opposite opinion would have wanted to express himself, he could have done it now here. The public chat is composed of 170 users, and most of them for inactivity or other reasons aren't even interested about the usability of the italian board.