Where do you stand on Ferguson?

[KaChingCoinDev]

Where do you stand on Ferguson? Whose fault was it?

[Beliathon]

Where do you stand on Ferguson?

Bad cop, no donut.

[funtotry]

Don't really have time to explain my opinion but what is common with all of these crimes, is that if the victim never actually did a crime, there would no police and therefore would still be alive today. That is a fact

[Beliathon]

Don't really have time to explain my opinion but what is common with all of these crimes, is that if the victim never actually did a crime, there would no police and therefore would still be alive today. Nice murder apology there. That is a fact

This is even worse than, "if she hadn't been dressed like a slut, she wouldn't have gotten herself raped."

Summary execution isn't supposed to be how the US justice system works. Way to be a murder apologist.

[ajareselde]

Don't really have time to explain my opinion but what is common with all of these crimes, is that if the victim never actually did a crime, there would no police and therefore would still be alive today. That is a fact

I have to say that i disagree. There is some truth to what you are saying, but there are also fundamental approaches that any officer of the law shouldnt use any more force than
it is really required to. For example, would you say its ok that if your kid steals a lolypop from the store, and the officers uses taser gun on him ?

cheers

[(oYo)]

Don't really have time to explain my opinion but what is common with all of these crimes, is that if the victim never actually did a crime, there would no police and therefore would still be alive today. That is a fact

What was this man's crime? Not speaking English?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnYvx5jwJs0
http://www.cnn.com/videos/justice/2015/02/12/pkg-al-indian-man-allegedly-beaten-by-police.whnt


Don't really have time to explain my opinion but what is common with all of these crimes is police feel entitled and are encouraged to brutalize the public.

[Snipe85]

I think the cop had the right to use weapon in that case. He probably overreacted a bit and got the robber killed but imagine yourself in this situation.
You get called to a robbery, don't know if the guy is armed or on drugs, you tell him to stop and he runs at you and starts choking you in your own car!

[funtotry]

Don't really have time to explain my opinion but what is common with all of these crimes, is that if the victim never actually did a crime, there would no police and therefore would still be alive today. Nice murder apology there. That is a fact

This is even worse than, "if she hadn't been dressed like a slut, she wouldn't have gotten herself raped."

Summary execution isn't supposed to be how the US justice system works. Way to be a murder apologist.

But you cannot deny that if he did not rob the store, the police would not be called to talk to him about this, and then when he WAS spoken to, he assaulted the police officer, and if he did not do, and followed with what the policeman said, he would have not been shot.

[Rishblitz]

Don't really have time to explain my opinion but what is common with all of these crimes, is that if the victim never actually did a crime, there would no police and therefore would still be alive today. That is a fact

What was this man's crime? Not speaking English?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnYvx5jwJs0
http://www.cnn.com/videos/justice/2015/02/12/pkg-al-indian-man-allegedly-beaten-by-police.whnt


Don't really have time to explain my opinion but what is common with all of these crimes is police feel entitled and are encouraged to brutalize the public.

That's a pretty bad crime to break. he's lucky he didn't get it worse.

[funtotry]

I think the cop had the right to use weapon in that case. He probably overreacted a bit and got the robber killed but imagine yourself in this situation.
You get called to a robbery, don't know if the guy is armed or on drugs, you tell him to stop and he runs at you and starts choking you in your own car!

Keep in mind that he also tried to grab for his gun. If someone is running at you and trying to hurt you, its either your life or his, the policeman told him to back off but he did not listen, and the boy went for the gun. You fear for your own life and had to make a decision. The gun WAS in his hand and the easiest defense mechanism, but if there was a bit more time he could've pulled out a tazer and stunned him.

[funtotry]

Don't really have time to explain my opinion but what is common with all of these crimes, is that if the victim never actually did a crime, there would no police and therefore would still be alive today. That is a fact

What was this man's crime? Not speaking English?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnYvx5jwJs0
http://www.cnn.com/videos/justice/2015/02/12/pkg-al-indian-man-allegedly-beaten-by-police.whnt


Don't really have time to explain my opinion but what is common with all of these crimes is police feel entitled and are encouraged to brutalize the public.

Wow that is very sad, if he does not speak english they should call the dispatcher or whatever it is for a translation or something. However I cannot provide a stance on this because I do not know the background information. Maybe this man was a murderer or committed a very serious crime. But randomly stopping someone on the street and beating them up is NOT ok, no matter what the situation is.

[funtotry]

Don't really have time to explain my opinion but what is common with all of these crimes, is that if the victim never actually did a crime, there would no police and therefore would still be alive today. That is a fact

I have to say that i disagree. There is some truth to what you are saying, but there are also fundamental approaches that any officer of the law shouldnt use any more force than
it is really required to. For example, would you say its ok that if your kid steals a lolypop from the store, and the officers uses taser gun on him ?

cheers

Yes I agree with that, but police USUALLY are not like this. They have lives to and if there is someone armed or dangerous they get scared and likely will not make decisions very well. Haven't heard of a cop shooting a taser gun at a kid stealing a lolypop, that would be insane, the kid poses no thread (other than the dangerous lolypop of course  )

[Agestorzrxx]

There will be some changes at the edges, maybe improvements to the municipal court system, maybe a civilian police review board, but they will barely impact the overall problem of race relations in this region.

[saddampbuh]

brown robbed a store, ignored order from cop to get off the road, resisted when cop realised he was wanted for the robbery, threatened and physically attacked the cop, dna found on the gun, never had his hands up. if you side with brown its because your hatred of the cops has made you irrational.

Although there are several individuals who have stated that Brown held his hands up in
an unambiguous sign of surrender prior to Wilson shooting him dead, their accounts do not
support a prosecution of Wilson. As detailed throughout this report, some of those accounts are
inaccurate because they are inconsistent with the physical and forensic evidence; some of those
accounts are materially inconsistent with that witness’s own prior statements with no
explanation, credible for otherwise, as to why those accounts changed over time. Certain other
witnesses who originally stated Brown had his hands up in surrender recanted their original
accounts, admitting that they did not witness the shooting or parts of it, despite what they
initially reported either to federal or local law enforcement or to the media. Prosecutors did not
rely on those accounts when making a prosecutive decision

http://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/doj_report_on_shooting_of_michael_brown.pdf

[Possum577]

A criminal f'ing with the police should expect the worst to happen.

It's awful that the recent study finds a lot of racism in Ferguson. I believe there wasn't any racism in the encounter with Brown. If you read the cops testimony you can see that the actions were all based on the fact that Brown was a suspect in a robbery, wasn't complying with police requests, and eventually fired the cop's gun in his car.

I do believe that the cop, a rookie, acted too severely in how many times he shot Brown. The shots were excessive but the need for shots to be fired was 100% brought on by Brown...he could have lived through that incident, he decided not to.

Seems like there's a lot of racism in Ferguson on both sides of the color wheel.

[manis]

A criminal f'ing with the police should expect the worst to happen.

Doesn't seem to matter whether you are a criminal or not. 

[Beliathon]

A criminal f'ing with the police should expect the worst to happen.

You got that backwards. The police are supposed to protect and serve,  follow due process of law, and escalate to lethal force ONLY when they or other bystanders are in mortal danger.

A criminal should expect to be treated exactly as the laws of the land say he should be. Unless that criminal is a black male in racist as fuck middle America,  in which case he should regard police as enemy combatants. Kill them before they kill you.

[funtotry]

A criminal f'ing with the police should expect the worst to happen.

Doesn't seem to matter whether you are a criminal or not. 

It's simple, obey the law, obey the police, and you will have no problems with them. Police shootings are a rarity and as Michael Brown actually ASSAULTED him and grabbed for his gun, he was fearing for his own life.

[picolo]

Where do you stand on Ferguson? Whose fault was it?

In th particular event that happened, the policeman was clearly lawfully and righfully defending himself but Ferguson may have a lot of hate issues linked to communities that can't rise themselves out of their problems.

[sickhouse]

One less thug on the street. Wether or not the cop did right I don't know, I am leaning towards not but googling around a bit doesn't make it easier..
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ferguson-shooting-13-facts/2014/11/25/id/609483/

13. Wilson said Brown was physically uncontrollable and "for lack of a better word, crazy." He said that during the confrontation, he was thinking: "He's gonna kill me. How do I survive?" Legal experts say police officers typically have wide latitude to use deadly force when they feel their safety is threatened.

Sounds like he was on something other marijuana as well, but nothing is said about that..

I also do think that this has false flag written all over it.