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March 12, 2015, 10:12:09 PM |
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Central bankers, because they have not only managed to convince people that they are required in society and are doing good in the world, they actually make the people they install into political parties think they're in charge, when of course, they actually aren't and the rest of the public believe it too.
Central bankers aren't politicians. I'll shock you with this one, I think the president of the United States is the most powerful politician in the world. They have the most powerful force in the history of the world at their command along with the biggest economy in history at their command. China is the biggest economy, isn't it? Furthermore, how can you say for sure that the U.S. is the most powerful state in the world from a military point of view? Can it be destroyed? Yes, it can, there are at least two countries which can do just that (with a vengeance), so it can't be the most powerful by definition. All we know for sure is that the U.S. national debt is the largest on the planet. Being able to be destroyed doesn't mean you aren't the most powerful. With nuclear weapons, there are many more countries than two that can destroy America (Britain, France, India, Pakistan, Russia, China), but anyone capable of destroying would be destroyed themselves, so they can't be more powerful by virtue of this. With this nuclear stalemate, ability to project traditional military muscle is an adequate measure of a nation's power, and no other country can subject the rest of the world to its military like the US. Just look at the headlines in the last 15 years. We're damned near everywhere and exclusively so. China is the largest economy from a purchase parity perspective. Economists argue whether this means they're actually larger. I could be convinced either way. Isn't the EU the largest economy? Doesn't mean much when each country is pushing its own interests first and China's growth is higher. But still. And I agree with others who said bankers and other groups are the most powerful. Politicians don't act alone. Even dictators don't. And when they try they often get replaced. Much harder to do with other powerful business groups. So I'm not sure the question even makes much sense.
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March 13, 2015, 04:39:23 AM |
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Who is the most powerful politician? What is your opinion?
Monsanto.
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March 13, 2015, 06:34:50 AM |
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Central bankers, because they have not only managed to convince people that they are required in society and are doing good in the world, they actually make the people they install into political parties think they're in charge, when of course, they actually aren't and the rest of the public believe it too.
Central bankers aren't politicians. I'll shock you with this one, I think the president of the United States is the most powerful politician in the world. They have the most powerful force in the history of the world at their command along with the biggest economy in history at their command. China is the biggest economy, isn't it? Furthermore, how can you say for sure that the U.S. is the most powerful state in the world from a military point of view? Can it be destroyed? Yes, it can, there are at least two countries which can do just that (with a vengeance), so it can't be the most powerful by definition. All we know for sure is that the U.S. national debt is the largest on the planet. Being able to be destroyed doesn't mean you aren't the most powerful. With nuclear weapons, there are many more countries than two that can destroy America (Britain, France, India, Pakistan, Russia, China), but anyone capable of destroying would be destroyed themselves, so they can't be more powerful by virtue of this. With this nuclear stalemate, ability to project traditional military muscle is an adequate measure of a nation's power, and no other country can subject the rest of the world to its military like the US. Just look at the headlines in the last 15 years. We're damned near everywhere and exclusively so. Yes, it does, period. The first four countries wouldn't be able to destroy the U.S. completely. They could possibly bring some serious damage but not to the point it would threaten the existence of the U.S. as such. And it still remains to be seen if China could actually do that. In respect to traditional military muscle it is rather a matter of belligerence, not military supremacy. Whenever the U.S. engaged with more or less serious opponents, they either lost militarily (Vietnam backed by the USSR) or had to withdraw (Korea backed by the USSR and China). Do you really think that if America attacked China or Russia with conventional weapons (no nuking allowed), they would win?
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March 25, 2015, 10:24:35 PM |
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I always think that White House & Kremlin are probably the most powerful right now. Both are equally as dangerous and war/power-hungry
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March 25, 2015, 10:41:36 PM |
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Politicians can come and go ... Rulers and kings have the real power in many parts of the world.
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March 25, 2015, 10:44:36 PM |
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Kim Jong Un - Fat baby that can call Nuclear attack at anytime ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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March 26, 2015, 03:19:49 AM |
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Who is the most powerful politician? What is your opinion?
Monsanto. This is the truth.
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galdur
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March 26, 2015, 05:42:28 AM |
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Not in this picture. Busy elsewhere pondering his next crafty chess moves, crafting strategy and stuff. Staytuned. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fdevilsfoe.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F03%2Fnato-summit-2014-day-two-2-630x378.jpg&t=665&c=4k8pkhSsMsQ0sA)
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alani123
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March 26, 2015, 06:38:40 AM |
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Not in this picture. Busy elsewhere pondering his next crafty chess moves, crafting strategy and stuff. Staytuned. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fdevilsfoe.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F03%2Fnato-summit-2014-day-two-2-630x378.jpg&t=665&c=4k8pkhSsMsQ0sA) Vladimir Putin? Since there's nothing directly similar to a congress in Russia and there are not many restrictive constitutional laws one could say that he's in a position of absolute power.
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March 26, 2015, 01:33:34 PM |
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I'm vouch him with all of my respect ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLYdLXj3.jpg&t=665&c=O9axkVG97-xkaQ)
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March 27, 2015, 12:09:54 AM |
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Probably Obama, USA is still nº1 no matter what, but Putin can play a big role as a destabilizing agent if he allies with other nutjobs like Kim Yung Un and so on.
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coinpr0n
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March 27, 2015, 08:58:28 AM |
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Probably Obama, USA is still nº1 no matter what, but Putin can play a big role as a destabilizing agent if he allies with other nutjobs like Kim Yung Un and so on.
I don't think the American heads of state are the true power houses of the USA. They come and go. They succumb to party politics and just politics in general. I suspect that behind the scenes are the most powerful. Putin on the other hand, and his longevity in office makes me think that he's a pretty powerful man.
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March 27, 2015, 10:03:08 AM |
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1. Putin 2. Xi Jinping 3. Bankster doll
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March 27, 2015, 01:23:13 PM |
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1. Xi Jinping 2. Barack Obama 3. Imran Khan 4. Angela Merkel 5. Vladimir Putin 6. Abdullah Bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud 7. David Cameron 8. Francois Hollande
in that order
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March 29, 2015, 01:16:54 AM Last edit: March 29, 2015, 01:35:10 AM by username18333 |
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Not in this picture. Busy elsewhere pondering his next crafty chess moves, crafting strategy and stuff. Staytuned. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fdevilsfoe.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F03%2Fnato-summit-2014-day-two-2-630x378.jpg&t=665&c=4k8pkhSsMsQ0sA) Vladimir Putin? Since there's nothing directly similar to a congress in Russia and there are not many restrictive constitutional laws one could say that he's in a position of absolute power. Markos Lemakasidion, the G.E. emperor (here, akin to a constitution).
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