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March 11, 2015, 05:36:34 PM
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how will it be possible with a permanent record and with more adoption its going to be huge how will wallets be used then how would u host it wot if it gets to 1 yotabit
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March 11, 2015, 05:43:56 PM
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how will it be possible with a permanent record and with more adoption its going to be huge how will wallets be used then how would u host it wot if it gets to 1 yotabit

We would be able to transfer 100 "terabit" or whatever your asking in the future. Your thinking about this linearly, data storage grows exponentially.

https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

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A block header with no transactions would be about 80 bytes. If we suppose blocks are
generated every 10 minutes, 80 bytes * 6 * 24 * 365 = 4.2MB per year. With computer systems
typically selling with 2GB of RAM as of 2008, and Moore's Law predicting current growth of
1.2GB per year, storage should not be a problem even if the block headers must be kept in
memory

100 Terabyte sized ledger would be many many many years from now. By that time it should still be relatively easy to store and transfer the ledger.
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March 11, 2015, 05:59:44 PM
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by the time something like that happen, our storage will be much larger, 100 tera would be the standard

just buy a bigger storage, no need to worry about this
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March 11, 2015, 06:14:05 PM
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March 11, 2015, 06:29:21 PM
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how will it be possible with a permanent record and with more adoption its going to be huge how will wallets be used then how would u host it wot if it gets to 1 yotabit


seagate is coming out with the 500 terrabyte hybrid drive soon. and 1Tb nic cards too .... stop worrying .
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March 11, 2015, 06:31:00 PM
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People using “wot” make me automatically assume they are being sarcastic.

An economy based on endless growth is unsustainable.
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March 11, 2015, 06:35:11 PM
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how will it be possible with a permanent record and with more adoption its going to be huge how will wallets be used then how would u host it wot if it gets to 1 yotabit
In the future space storage will never be a problem. Space storage gets better and cheaper yearly, it will never catch up to be a problem.
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March 11, 2015, 06:41:06 PM
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Storage has never been and will never be a problem. The hardest part about downloading the blockchain is bandwidth and time. When the blockchain gets larger, less user would want to download a complete copy and use a light wallet instead. The number of bitcoin nodes could fall to a dangerous level.
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March 11, 2015, 06:47:59 PM
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People using “wot” make me automatically assume they are being sarcastic.

Amazing. I automatically assume they are retarded/dumb.

@topic: Moores law. Even if everyblock is full of transactions.

@1 MB --> 52 GB per year
@20 MB --> 1040 GB per year

So such storage is possible today and will forever be possible.

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March 11, 2015, 07:01:40 PM
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People using “wot” make me automatically assume they are being sarcastic.

Amazing. I automatically assume they are retarded/dumb.

@topic: Moores law. Even if everyblock is full of transactions.

@1 MB --> 52 GB per year
@20 MB --> 1040 GB per year

So such storage is possible today and will forever be possible.

if global adoption happens to come within a few years you would need to reserve at least 1tb of space every year for the blockchain alone. if every block reaches 20mb cap. running a node at home will become quite hard.
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March 11, 2015, 07:05:38 PM
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People using “wot” make me automatically assume they are being sarcastic.

Amazing. I automatically assume they are retarded/dumb.

@topic: Moores law. Even if everyblock is full of transactions.

@1 MB --> 52 GB per year
@20 MB --> 1040 GB per year

So such storage is possible today and will forever be possible.

if global adoption happens to come within a few years you would need to reserve at least 1tb of space every year for the blockchain alone. if every block reaches 20mb cap. running a node at home will become quite hard.

But that is basically the thing. A normal user shouldn't need to run the full blockchain.

Also if blocksize really explodes to 40 times the size today, then the price will probably increase a few times too, thus increasing the incentive for the community to run more nodes.

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March 11, 2015, 07:13:59 PM
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I wouldn't answer this person because they wrote 'wot'.

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March 11, 2015, 07:16:04 PM
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by the time something like that happen, our storage will be much larger, 100 tera would be the standard

just buy a bigger storage, no need to worry about this

this might happens if the user base grows near 100M people.

I can see it happening before 100 tera storages become standard, and considering that most people take a while to upgrade their computer
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March 11, 2015, 07:18:25 PM
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by the time something like that happen, our storage will be much larger, 100 tera would be the standard

just buy a bigger storage, no need to worry about this

this might happens if the user base grows near 100M people.

I can see it happening before 100 tera storages become standard, and considering that most people take a while to upgrade their computer

Do you really think that the "most people" run full nodes?

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March 11, 2015, 07:20:04 PM
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When that happens, i will buy you a 100TB storage  Cool
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March 11, 2015, 07:42:48 PM
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how will it be possible with a permanent record and with more adoption its going to be huge how will wallets be used then how would u host it wot if it gets to 1 yotabit

You wot m8?

If we manage to see the size of the block chain ledger to 1 terrabyte, the standard storage of a pc would somewhere around 50-100 tb (guesstimate).
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March 11, 2015, 08:59:10 PM
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Can I just clarify for those reading this and thinking that to use Bitcoin they need to download bitcoin core and wait for hours to download the whole blockchain. This isn't the case at all.
If you want to get started using bitcoin download a light wallet like multibit and leave downloading the blockchain to the miners.

Also, if you are already using core but you don't like it or it's taking up too much space or it's too slow or it's downloading transactions everytime you load it up. It's easy to move your coins to a light wallet and you can just delete the blockchain and uninstall core.
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March 11, 2015, 11:44:32 PM
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if every block reaches 20mb cap. running a node at home will become quite hard.

Running a full node at home is hard already. You need to leave a server on 24/7, which increases energy expenses, and some ISPs block ports needed for Bitcoin to work correctly.

An economy based on endless growth is unsustainable.
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March 11, 2015, 11:45:41 PM
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Can I just clarify for those reading this and thinking that to use Bitcoin they need to download bitcoin core and wait for hours to download the whole blockchain. This isn't the case at all.
If you want to get started using bitcoin download a light wallet like multibit and leave downloading the blockchain to the miners.

Also, if you are already using core but you don't like it or it's taking up too much space or it's too slow or it's downloading transactions everytime you load it up. It's easy to move your coins to a light wallet and you can just delete the blockchain and uninstall core.

One of the problems is that the "landing page " of bitcoin: "Bitcoin.org" is still listing Bitcoin Core as the first option.

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March 11, 2015, 11:48:01 PM
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10nm process that's wot.
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