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March 12, 2015, 07:48:28 AM
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I wish to preserve this file for later generations.  I have no technical know how to do this,  any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.
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March 12, 2015, 07:51:12 AM
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I wish to preserve this file for later generations.  I have no technical know how to do this,  any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

http://cryptograffiti.info/

5MB is quite large. Can't you compress it?

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March 12, 2015, 07:52:35 AM
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It already is compressed.
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March 12, 2015, 07:55:31 AM
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This has to be just the worst use of the blockchain ever.  

OP_RETURN is going to disrepair and it is going to be because of this.
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March 12, 2015, 07:57:27 AM
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That is only your definition of what useful is.  If currency is your use then no, if data preservation is the use then yes.  
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March 12, 2015, 07:57:55 AM
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The file is too big anyway, you can't do it unless you split it up.
What is it anyway? Is it important?

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March 12, 2015, 07:59:11 AM
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To me yes, and to those who investigate it's contents and also find it enjoyable in the future.
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March 12, 2015, 08:00:07 AM
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That is only your definition of what useful is.  If currency is your use then no, if data preservation is the use then yes.  

This harms the rest of bitcoin so you can save a file.  How selfish is that?
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March 12, 2015, 08:00:34 AM
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To my knowledge it can't be done its just to large
You can do marriage contracts in the blockchain but a 5mb file is too big
If you want to save it for future generations may as well try storing it on the maidsafe network when it gets a release then having enough maidcoins to effectively keep it there for a damn long time, maybe not effectively forever but long enough for whatever purpose you likely have in mind.

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March 12, 2015, 08:03:58 AM
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The blockchain is for everyone as they see fit.  It's decentralized and it is not yours to demand it's only use.  I will find a way to do this and I will enjoy having fun with the blockchain.
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March 12, 2015, 08:07:32 AM
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nothing you or anyone can do about it.

Actual, there is.  Enough of this shit goes on and OP_RETURN gets removed.  You file is gone along with whatever you paid.

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March 12, 2015, 08:09:15 AM
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Mine, what is the calculation of payment regarding a file of that onto the blockchain anyways?
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March 12, 2015, 08:11:50 AM
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The blockchain is for everyone as they see fit.  It's decentralized and it is not yours to demand it's only use.  I will find a way to do this and I will enjoy having fun with the blockchain.

This is why we cant have  nice things. I agree with you to a certain extent. The blockchain is for every, but not as they see fit. Your legit use ends where you start to make it useless for others. Its like Kant never existent...

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March 12, 2015, 08:16:34 AM
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Mine, what is the calculation of payment regarding a file of that onto the blockchain anyways?

It is basically free, just at tiny amount of satochi's for the people encoding.  For everyone else I would not even know how to begin to count the cost.

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March 12, 2015, 08:23:45 AM
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Mine, what is the calculation of payment regarding a file of that onto the blockchain anyways?

It is basically free, just at tiny amount of satochi's for the people encoding.  For everyone else I would not even know how to begin to count the cost.

Its basically 5 full blocks. What would be the accumulated cost of worldwide BTC related business halted for ~50 minutes? A very simplistic view would be that these 5 blocks are basically wasted as they do not serve the currency, thus the cost would be 5*25 = 125 BTC currently.

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March 12, 2015, 08:29:37 AM
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Its basically 5 full blocks.

If only, OP_RETURN only takes 40 bytes.  So if you made a smallish transaction it would be 10% of it.  So something like 50 MB to do it.

If you did it 3 times a day you have consumed the more than entire block bandwidth.

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March 12, 2015, 08:30:36 AM
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To me yes, and to those who investigate it's contents and also find it enjoyable in the future.

Let's have look what it is then?

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March 12, 2015, 08:54:05 AM
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Its basically 5 full blocks.

If only, OP_RETURN only takes 40 bytes.  So if you made a smallish transaction it would be 10% of it.  So something like 50 MB to do it.

If you did it 3 times a day you have consumed the more than entire block bandwidth.

It could also be encoded in addresses AFAIK which takes less space. I was assuming perfect use of block space, which of course is not realistic and an actual solution would waste even more space. The white paper by satoshi is said to be in this transaction[1] which has only ~7% overhead.


[1] https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/54e48e5f5c656b26c3bca14a8c95aa583d07ebe84dde3b7dd4a78f4e4186e713

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March 12, 2015, 09:12:59 AM
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A quick look at the examples on coingraffiti.info shows a rate of about 10 mills per kilobyte (0.01 BTC/kB) for the larger, block-like messages so you should be able to embed your file into the blockchain in chunks for about 50 BTC.  I don't know how efficient coingraffiti is but I'd guess that an equivalent service using OP_RETURN would be cheaper.
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March 12, 2015, 10:14:14 AM
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Yeah, me too. I want to sequence my DNA and then encode it on the blockchain so my DNA is on millions of computers around the world. I hope you don't have a problem with that.

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