Wiki Weapon

[ElectricMucus]

Actually if anything the distribution of the files would be prohibited.

Just like downloading music was made illegal, right?

The time when you can ban an object is nearing it's end.

Of course but that doesn't mean they won't go that route, even if we all know it wouldn't work.

technology advancing so fast; gov will be lucky if they can act quick enough to stop 3d printers in time for their agenda. or maybe its part of it. That way they can blame anyone and blame the smart libertarians "they probably have 3d printers and homemade guns lets raid their homes"

I rather think it would look like this:
"You downloaded weapon designs, we know it because we sniffed your network traffic, you are requested to make a statement on your local police station."

Then if people do not show up they raid.
After the first few cases people gonna use tor, for the gov that means out of view out of mind. And the thing will be as effective as any other prohibition, absolutely non effective.

[420]

Some courts will rule a warrant is still needed to invade privacy like that

[ElectricMucus]

Some courts will rule a warrant is still needed to invade privacy like that

They'll just claim it's under exigent circumstances and apply for a warrant later. Only if the local police weren't power abusing scumbags it would happen any differently.

[myrkul]

Some courts will rule a warrant is still needed to invade privacy like that

They'll just claim it's under exigent circumstances and apply for a warrant later. Only if the local police weren't power abusing scumbags it would happen any differently.

So... only in fantasy-land?

[Richy_T]

not to mention various electronic devices from computers, game consoles and instruments (I own 2 of them actually)
It is hard to think of anything not being developed in a open source model...

Yes it's time.

Do you have a printer yourself? I've been thinking about purchasing/building one.

[Richy_T]

Although I think the political statement is laudable, I think these projects are misguided. Guns really need metal and 3d printing isn't ready for that yet. What they need to be 3d printing is the tools to make guns. Something that could be made cheaply that could rifle short barrels would be a game changer.

Also, instead of manufacturing parts that already exist for guns that already exist and coming up with something inferior, what's needed is some clever design. Composite barrels? caseless ammunition? Electronically controlled feed & firing?

[myrkul]

Although I think the political statement is laudable, I think these projects are misguided. Guns really need metal and 3d printing isn't ready for that yet.

Correction: cheap 3d printing isn't ready for that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNW6WqynKtE

[Richy_T]

Correction: cheap 3d printing isn't ready for that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNW6WqynKtE

Ah, is that strong enough though?

[myrkul]

Correction: cheap 3d printing isn't ready for that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNW6WqynKtE

Ah, is that strong enough though?

They use it to build airplane parts.

[Richy_T]

Correction: cheap 3d printing isn't ready for that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNW6WqynKtE

Ah, is that strong enough though?

They use it to build airplane parts.

That's not the question I asked

[myrkul]

Correction: cheap 3d printing isn't ready for that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNW6WqynKtE

Ah, is that strong enough though?

They use it to build airplane parts.

That's not the question I asked

Hah, good point. Yes, I believe it's at least as strong as the same part made by casting it, since they melt the new layer to the old.

[Richy_T]

I still stand by the rifling comment somewhat. I was doing some reading on it and there are a few different methods but they all use large and expensive machinery. Obviously, this makes sense for mass production but I can't help but feel that there is the opportunity for a cheap (but worse value), slow, accurate, over-engineered bore & rifling tool/mechanism.

[MoonShadow]

After the first few cases people gonna use tor,

dude, most already are using tor.  Someone that I've been very close to for all my life uses tor for just about anything remotely controversial.  My *cough* his bitcoind runs entirely across tor, completely quietly, and does not accept connections from previously unknown servers; and this is for something that I'm willing to admit that I do.

[myrkul]

I still stand by the rifling comment somewhat. I was doing some reading on it and there are a few different methods but they all use large and expensive machinery. Obviously, this makes sense for mass production but I can't help but feel that there is the opportunity for a cheap (but worse value), slow, accurate, over-engineered bore & rifling tool/mechanism.

You can rifle a barrel with a drill press, and the right bit.

[Richy_T]

I still stand by the rifling comment somewhat. I was doing some reading on it and there are a few different methods but they all use large and expensive machinery. Obviously, this makes sense for mass production but I can't help but feel that there is the opportunity for a cheap (but worse value), slow, accurate, over-engineered bore & rifling tool/mechanism.

You can rifle a barrel with a drill press, and the right bit.

I'd be interested in a link to that.

[myrkul]

I still stand by the rifling comment somewhat. I was doing some reading on it and there are a few different methods but they all use large and expensive machinery. Obviously, this makes sense for mass production but I can't help but feel that there is the opportunity for a cheap (but worse value), slow, accurate, over-engineered bore & rifling tool/mechanism.

You can rifle a barrel with a drill press, and the right bit.

I'd be interested in a link to that.

I was speaking mostly theoretically, I've yet to see "the right bit," since you would need to control the turn very accurately. You could probably do something similar to the process described here: http://www.city-data.com/forum/guns-hunting/659389-how-rifle-barrel-1700s-style.html

[ElectricMucus]

Do you have a printer yourself? I've been thinking about purchasing/building one.

Well, kind of. It's half assembled, I purchased it about a year ago and I am procrastinating to finish it.

[Richy_T]

I was speaking mostly theoretically, I've yet to see "the right bit," since you would need to control the turn very accurately. You could probably do something similar to the process described here: http://www.city-data.com/forum/guns-hunting/659389-how-rifle-barrel-1700s-style.html

Yep, those are the methods I was referring to. The scrape cutting and the button. I guess a handgun device could be reasonably small but the ones for rifles are pretty big. I'm thinking something cnc or maybe mechanical with cleverly shaped cams Point it at a piece of rebar and come back an hour later to a nice barrel.

[bbit]

These fella's have a bitcointalk account?

[myrkul]

These fella's have a bitcointalk account?

Yup:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=63930