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March 15, 2015, 04:50:06 PM
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CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT EXACTLY MAKE SENSE TO YOU..  ARE YOU JEALOUS YOU CAN"T MAKE SO MUCH MONEY OR SOMETHING? WHY WOULD YOU EVEN SAY BLAH, JUST TO SAY IT???

You broke their terms and conditions. It's as simple as that, what don't you understand? Now you're being investigated and you're BTC will be tied up until they're finished. This is your OWN fault. You could have avoided this mess completely by not creating a bunch of accounts, depositing and betting using your own referral link.

Like I said before, try doing this at ANY legit sports book and see what happens.

This is just innocent mistake and I did not mean to make 0.2 BTC out of 60 BTC I spent back... Do you see, this is ridiculous.... Why would someone call me a scam? I am not in the business of scamming 0.2 BTC from Cloudbet.com....

You know what pissed me off, they could have just resolve it with simple phone call, chat or email. Now I have to deal with losses of money.... Seems like f**ed up situation for me and they are not doing anything to resolve it quick, considering my VIP status.... Any respectable casino would take care of it immediately and release my funds...

Ridiculous, maybe but you have to understand that this is a common thing in the sports book industry. 0.2 BTC is such a small amount but over time it would add up. It's taking away from the book's overall profit and if everyone did this they could go out of business pretty fast.

How much are you owed, after winning and losing bets?



0.2 is almost 60$ thats a good amount of money and as you said if everyone did that it would add up but 60$ its already a big amount of money

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March 15, 2015, 04:54:33 PM
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CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT EXACTLY MAKE SENSE TO YOU..  ARE YOU JEALOUS YOU CAN"T MAKE SO MUCH MONEY OR SOMETHING? WHY WOULD YOU EVEN SAY BLAH, JUST TO SAY IT???

You broke their terms and conditions. It's as simple as that, what don't you understand? Now you're being investigated and you're BTC will be tied up until they're finished. This is your OWN fault. You could have avoided this mess completely by not creating a bunch of accounts, depositing and betting using your own referral link.

Like I said before, try doing this at ANY legit sports book and see what happens.

This is just innocent mistake and I did not mean to make 0.2 BTC out of 60 BTC I spent back... Do you see, this is ridiculous.... Why would someone call me a scam? I am not in the business of scamming 0.2 BTC from Cloudbet.com....

You know what pissed me off, they could have just resolve it with simple phone call, chat or email. Now I have to deal with losses of money.... Seems like f**ed up situation for me and they are not doing anything to resolve it quick, considering my VIP status.... Any respectable casino would take care of it immediately and release my funds...

Ridiculous, maybe but you have to understand that this is a common thing in the sports book industry. 0.2 BTC is such a small amount but over time it would add up. It's taking away from the book's overall profit and if everyone did this they could go out of business pretty fast.

How much are you owed, after winning and losing bets?



0.2 is almost 60$ thats a good amount of money and as you said if everyone did that it would add up but 60$ its already a big amount of money

That's not a big amount for a sports book and casino. If allowed to continue, that $60 could turn into $6,000+ and that's when it would start to become a problem.

OP: There is nothing you can do at this point but wait for them to finish their investigation.

https://www.cloudbet.com/en/terms_and_conditions

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Only one account per customer/IP/household is allowed. If you attempt and/or successfully open more than one account, all of your accounts may be blocked, suspended or closed and any bitcoin credited to your account frozen.

They've made it very clear only one account so they did have the right to freeze your account. Always read the terms and conditions.
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March 15, 2015, 05:15:34 PM
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By the way affiliate link or whatever it was really innosent mistake. I was testing the system and had no clue it was registering or whatever... I thought they would have better tracking system as well. I have 2 sites where I was planning to send them traffic from http://www.1stbtccasino.com/ and https://www.facebook.com/1stBitCoinCasino

Email of my cloudbet.com account that got frozen is cloudbet1@1stbtccasino.com

Let's have some common sense here, I used to program in my past life. I was a web developer for 10 years. If I wanted to scam cloudbet.com for 0.2 BTC using affiliate link and do my own bets whatever it is.. my mind is not even set to think that, why would I use email account cloudbet1@1stbtccasino.com to make bets? Isn't this email account directly related to the affiliate account? I would use proxies up my a**, tor and HMA with that, on top of that I would do this on VPN server so there no cookies or any other traces.... I am not THAT STUPID... This whole thing is huge misunderstanding. I am very disappointed with cloudbet.com and their lack of customer service. Now if they would allow me to take my money, I would like to take my business else where ASAP
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March 15, 2015, 05:23:32 PM
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Only one account per customer/IP/household is allowed. If you attempt and/or successfully open more than one account, all of your accounts may be blocked, suspended or closed and any bitcoin credited to your account frozen.

This one is just retarded, no other casino is preventing you from having multiple accounts. So if I get together with my friends, they cannot even login from my house? That makes no sense to me and that allows cloudbase.com to scam without any hesitation... Don't you think? Proves my point - cloudbet.com is a scam... Lack of customer support is another example of fony balony...
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March 15, 2015, 05:33:58 PM
Last edit: March 15, 2015, 09:16:51 PM by cloudbet1
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March 15, 2015, 05:41:28 PM
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Only one account per customer/IP/household is allowed. If you attempt and/or successfully open more than one account, all of your accounts may be blocked, suspended or closed and any bitcoin credited to your account frozen.

This one is just retarded, no other casino is preventing you from having multiple accounts. So if I get together with my friends, they cannot even login from my house? That makes no sense to me and that allows cloudbase.com to scam without any hesitation... Don't you think? Proves my point - cloudbet.com is a scam... Lack of customer support is another example of fony balony...


Makes total sense and even if it didnt its their rules you broke them now deal with it

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March 15, 2015, 05:48:07 PM
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Only one account per customer/IP/household is allowed. If you attempt and/or successfully open more than one account, all of your accounts may be blocked, suspended or closed and any bitcoin credited to your account frozen.

This one is just retarded, no other casino is preventing you from having multiple accounts. So if I get together with my friends, they cannot even login from my house? That makes no sense to me and that allows cloudbase.com to scam without any hesitation... Don't you think? Proves my point - cloudbet.com is a scam... Lack of customer support is another example of fony balony...

you bet on their platform, then you must follow their rules, the same when a guest come to stay at your house, they will need to follow your house rules as well, if you dont want to follow their rules, simply dont bet at their platform anymore, and you should wait a few days, they are investigating your account right now, just give them some time to do their job

Hi,

We are investigating this player's account for a breach of our terms and conditions.

Regards,
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March 15, 2015, 05:52:02 PM
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I am not the kind of customer who will "deal" with it. I did nothing wrong #1, #2 every damn casino is crazy for my business. Being treated this way, shows that cloudbet.com is a scam, place that do not care about VIP clients, place that cannot afford to have normal customer service either... Freezing account out of the blue like that is another prove that cloudbet.com is a scam... I am in losses because of them... As of right now they are in possession of my bitcoins and I cannot get it out of their damn web site....
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March 15, 2015, 05:58:05 PM
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I am not the kind of customer who will "deal" with it. I did nothing wrong #1, #2 every damn casino is crazy for my business. Being treated this way, shows that cloudbet.com is a scam, place that do not care about VIP clients, place that cannot afford to have normal customer service either... Freezing account out of the blue like that is another prove that cloudbet.com is a scam... I am in losses because of them... As of right now they are in possession of my bitcoins and I cannot get it out of their damn web site....

Sigh. You broke their terms and conditions.... you can keep going on and on about innocent mistakes and etc but at the end of the day you broke their terms. You've admitted to breaking their terms when you said "I did absolutely nothing wrong. I have 6 accounts". Stupid rule or not, rules are rules.

Go ahead and join any of those casinos crazy for your business, make sure you sign up under your own referral link with 6 accounts and place bets under all of them. Post back the casino and results after a couple of days or when you try and make a withdrawal, would be interesting to see what happens Smiley
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March 15, 2015, 06:06:37 PM
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Next time I'll be smarter... Being honest does not get you anywhere with these "casinos" - all they are, just a dummy web site,  nothing but another layer between cloudfare... their sites normally are full of bugs. Lack of customer service really shows who they are. What can I say, I am just an idiot and I am getting punished for it.... Thanks to cloudbet.com now I know how to avoid being caught next time and stay below the radar... At the same time, so far nobody from cloudbet.com even bothered to respond to this thread or refund my money. My initial scam accusations are 100% correct...
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Next time I'll be smarter... Being honest does not get you anywhere with these "casinos" - all they are, just a dummy web site,  nothing but another layer between cloudfare... their sites normally are full of bugs. Lack of customer service really shows who they are. What can I say, I am just an idiot and I am getting punished for it.... Thanks to cloudbet.com now I know how to avoid being caught next time and stay below the radar... At the same time, so far nobody from cloudbet.com even bothered to respond to this thread or refund my money. My initial scam accusations are 100% correct...

They did, they said they were going to investigate it but you didnt even waited long enough, give them some time for fuck sake

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March 15, 2015, 09:20:10 PM
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How long am I supposed to wait for someone to just look in 2 my account. Is this how VIP clients are treated. I am taking my business else where. In the mean time, as I mentioned, I am out of around 30 BTC and as of right now, it is around f**ing $9,000 - that's damn brand new car my friend. Would you have patience? Would you sit and wait for f**ing "investigation" if you were in my place??? Don't sit there and be smart about this problem... So far cloudbet.com is a scam who stole my money covering their airse by "terms" and I am out of $9,000....
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March 15, 2015, 10:39:05 PM
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CLOUDBET.COM IS GOOD, I GOT MY MONEY BACK AND MY ACCOUNT WAS RE-OPENED. THE ONLY PROBLEM IS CUSTOMER SERVICE - THERE NO NUMBER TO CALL AND TICKETS TAKES LONG TIME TO ANSWER...
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March 15, 2015, 11:52:04 PM
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I see you edited your posts and removed the one were you admitted to having 6 accounts. Now why would you go and do something like that? I wonder..

You also removed the part about putting something like a fortune on Napoli, who lost. Glad you didn't take them now?  So much for the 100% winner Cheesy

To sum it all up: OP either tried to cheat the system or made a "innocent mistake" as he would call it and now must wait for cloudbet to investigate.
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March 16, 2015, 01:34:03 AM
Last edit: March 16, 2015, 03:16:46 AM by cloudbet1
 #35

I see you edited your posts and removed the one were you admitted to having 6 accounts. Now why would you go and do something like that? I wonder..

You also removed the part about putting something like a fortune on Napoli, who lost. Glad you didn't take them now?  So much for the 100% winner Cheesy

To sum it all up: OP either tried to cheat the system or made a "innocent mistake" as he would call it and now must wait for cloudbet to investigate.

Yeah Napoli lost... ouch... it was paid tip by the way.... anyway I would probably lose 10 BTC, so I guess it is good Smiley

I was able to log in and request money out. No notification on my wallet so far, but my money was available on cloudbet.com and to my surprise It was all there.  I'll post here if money actually arrive.
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March 16, 2015, 07:48:07 AM
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I see you edited your posts and removed the one were you admitted to having 6 accounts. Now why would you go and do something like that? I wonder..

You also removed the part about putting something like a fortune on Napoli, who lost. Glad you didn't take them now?  So much for the 100% winner Cheesy

To sum it all up: OP either tried to cheat the system or made a "innocent mistake" as he would call it and now must wait for cloudbet to investigate.

Yeah Napoli lost... ouch... it was paid tip by the way.... anyway I would probably lose 10 BTC, so I guess it is good Smiley

I was able to log in and request money out. No notification on my wallet so far, but my money was available on cloudbet.com and to my surprise It was all there.  I'll post here if money actually arrive.

So afterall you are just a fucking dumbass. Lock this stupid thread already.

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March 16, 2015, 10:13:10 AM
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You got your BTC according to your wallet address: 1JxMRhmBdcbyLLqkR1mu61n6jbob5rGLep
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March 16, 2015, 10:24:39 AM
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CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT EXACTLY MAKE SENSE TO YOU..  ARE YOU JEALOUS YOU CAN"T MAKE SO MUCH MONEY OR SOMETHING? WHY WOULD YOU EVEN SAY BLAH, JUST TO SAY IT???

You broke their terms and conditions. It's as simple as that, what don't you understand? Now you're being investigated and you're BTC will be tied up until they're finished. This is your OWN fault. You could have avoided this mess completely by not creating a bunch of accounts, depositing and betting using your own referral link.

Like I said before, try doing this at ANY legit sports book and see what happens.

This is just innocent mistake and I did not mean to make 0.2 BTC out of 60 BTC I spent back... Do you see, this is ridiculous.... Why would someone call me a scam? I am not in the business of scamming 0.2 BTC from Cloudbet.com....

You know what pissed me off, they could have just resolve it with simple phone call, chat or email. Now I have to deal with losses of money.... Seems like f**ed up situation for me and they are not doing anything to resolve it quick, considering my VIP status.... Any respectable casino would take care of it immediately and release my funds...

any respectable casino would let you cheat the affiliate program for your own financial gain ?? WTF  r u smoking ?
if i were the cloudbet operator  i would keep your  btc just to teach you a lesson
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March 16, 2015, 02:12:54 PM
Last edit: March 16, 2015, 03:10:38 PM by zhorakiev
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CLOUDBET.COM IS GOOD, I GOT MY MONEY BACK AND MY ACCOUNT WAS RE-OPENED. THE ONLY PROBLEM IS CUSTOMER SERVICE - THERE NO NUMBER TO CALL AND TICKETS TAKES LONG TIME TO ANSWER...
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March 16, 2015, 02:29:37 PM
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TEACH ME A LESSON F** YOU A**HOLE WHAT THE F*** IS YOUR PROBLEM.... ARE YOU F**ED IN THE HEAD OR SOMETHING?Huh WHAT'S YOUR F** BUSINESS HERE??? TRYING TO PROMOTE YOUR FORUM??


ANYWAY NO MONEY CAME TO MY WALLET YET AND AGAIN NO REPLIES, MULTIPLE TICKETS CREATED.... STILL WAITING.... CUSTOMER SERVICE IS WHACK...

perhaps they are still investigating your multiple accounts that abused the affiliate system
but due to this , you are atleast able to save some lost



SEE WHAT I AM MISSING BECAUSE OF CLOUDBET.COM


Verona vs. Napoli - REALLY NICE AND SAFE BET.... NAPOLI IS GOING TO KICK THE CRAP OUT OF VERONA.....

THIS IS 100% WIN...

Napoli lost, you would probably bet a fortune for napoli
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