No PayPal, No headache.

[Folanco]

Edit:

Seems the best way for me is to not do PayPal trades at all, I will never accept PayPal payments.

This way I will save myself the trouble.

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[camolist]

"Your account "A" is a third account that is not associated with the trade in anyway"

so you are saying you think paypal is retarded?

lol i think you might have that backwards

[master-P]

Your method doesn't always work for everyone. The "Account A" can easily be linked to your main account and PayPal will just freeze both accounts if the situation is drastic enough.

[master-P]

Is there any good way or escrow service for someone who is buying BTC with PP -me- , but without actually losing alot for it?

I have $31.25 now and I'm looking for the best way for me and the seller.

Not that I know of. At least not any escrow that would want to hold PayPal funds, BTC funds sure but definitely not PayPal. Because if the escrow holds the PayPal funds, then it is them who risks getting the payment reversed after releasing the funds to the other party.

You can try buying BTC through Virwox.com. I've known quite a few people who used that service in order to exchange PP to BTC when they had no other viable options.

[lucasjkr]

Sure, it might work once or twice. Any more than that, or any significant amounts of money, and Paypal will catch on real quick...

IP addresses, cookies, past activities in the accounts, all can be used to root out this scam.

And once they unravel what's occurred, no doubt they'll look at your earlier transactions and, yes, refund themselves from the other accounts.

You don't have to use paypal. Purely your choice. Going through all these hoops to prevent them from reclaiming money that they'll have to pay back in the event of a charge back, that could be construed as intent to defraud them. If you're worried about getting charged back that badly, then easy - don't accept paypal. Or do so and take responsibility for the risk you're taking on.

That's what its all about - you want a benefit (accept paypal) without attendant risk (chargebacks), and instead opening yourself up to fraud accusations, if eBay felt so compelled....

[Dr-Exchanger]

why just you be legit and don't accept funds which may be reversed ?!!
instead of trying to be smart !

[Slark]

Why are you trying so hard to bypass Paypal's basic functionality? This is not some complex problem we are talking about here. It is just simple transactions of money you will not invest simple method to prevent reversing Paypal's transactions. Instead of wasting your time just stop using Paypal when dealing with individual people.

[EsaEzekiel]

why should I trade with someone on paypal?
does ir cheaper or more convenient than exchanges?
 

[sgk]

- You have account "A" and a dummy account "B", and trader have account "S".

Doesn't PayPal require some kind of documentation/authentication to record detect accounts from same person?
I mean, you must be having to provide some kind of KYC on both accounts?

That way PayPal can always link both accounts to same person; and if one of them is tainted, they can freeze them both.

(I don't know, I'm asking.)

[twister]

I don't know how Paypal works but it might still get charged back. Paypal might inform A that the money sent to them was stolen from another account and they're reversing the same.

It's best to just not use Paypal or any other reversible payment methods.

[Mitchell]

Don't try to outsmart PayPal. They are a lot smarter than you and have a lot more resources available to track down people like you if they wanted to. They might not fuck you now, but they will fuck you later on for sure.

Be smart and stay away from PayPal.