Ban removal request/appeal

[smalltimespaghetti]

Hi,

This is a request to remove the 14 day ban on my account: bigtimespaghetti

I have had my account banned for 'insubstantial posts' of which I can only find 1 that I made recently which fits that description in my opinion.

I have not been spamming as the sig campaign is unimportant to me (it doesn't pay very much) and I am so active that I reach the maximum posts anyway without intentionally trying. I just leave it on as it's nice to get some change into my wallet for simply using the forum as I usually would.

Since I think I know which post got me banned (my last post?), I will not be making similar 'insubstantial' comments again. And I'd really appreciate having the ban removed and I will refrain from either posting so much or content such as the last comment I made. I think you will find that if you look through my posts they are not spammy and in general I try and be constructive as possible.

So as not to be seen as trying to get round the ban, I will only post in this thread if a specific question is asked of me by a moderator. I just wanted to appeal the ban and find the reason why I was banned for 14 days without warning as I know I have been very active on the forum lately. I think if you look through my posts and my trust ratings you will see that I have not been intentionally spamming.

Regards,
bigtimespaghetti

[Mitchell]

You were banned? Damn, that surprises me.

[Muhammed Zakir]

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I think if you look through my posts and my trust ratings you will see that I have not been intentionally spamming.

Regards,
bigtimespaghetti

It's hard. Posts like these are confusing especially when you have PPP ad.

wierd. oh well!

^^^... This post doesn't look spammy but...

I don't smoke.  

Is anyone else shocked at this?

Sorry for the below copy-paste. I think these two posts have high relevance for a *ban appeal*.

I don't know if you are actually participating in a discussion or trying to increase post count and thus, payment. This is same with admins. They can't know either. So you should put more effort in posting. Honestly, your posts looks spammy to me.

Everything is subjective, sometimes 100 meh quality posts spammed in a 1 day time frame catches a moderator/admin's attention more than 10 poor quality posts. There aren't post limits, however it goes without saying that at a certain point its hard to maintain post quality. People aren't banned on a whim, time is spent investigating especially in these situations where it isn't copy and paste/quote/smiley face/ +1 spam. Sometimes people spam meh - ok quality posts, but when you read the threads they are posting in, their posts aren't completely related or they are just reiterating prior posts to get the post count up or they are posting in threads that have already drawn a conclusion, and they are just reiterating points. People that post very frequently especially those with paid advertising signatures catch more attention sometimes than small spammers. Trust has no impact on bans or ban duration, while admittedly account age/status does minimally if I'm being honest. No one has a free ticket to spam, but a newbie with 5 of 10 of their post count being low quality are more likely to get a severe ban, than a member who has been active and posting high quality posts for a while, and slips up and spams a bit.

As I said, there are no rules on post count, you can post every 10 seconds if you wish, but the chances of your posts being quality decrease when you impose quotas.

I highlighted part which is the most common issue imo

will i get a perm banned next time?

I tend to consider sig spam bans a class of their own, as in I don't generally lengthen the duration due to previous bans, unless you are truly a bad poster or there are some other special considerations.

Second what is sig spam? Is there a sticky that has a in depth answer like less than 10 words, posts within 5mins, 100 posts a day, 300 a week etc

A tendency to make posts in order to boost your post count, and you have an ad in your signature, particularly one that pays you per post. There is no secret invisible line that you shouldn't cross in terms of numbers, it's mostly subjective.  

There are people who just don't post very well in general, post "too much", or don't really have anything to say, they just like to participate in the community and post. This itself is fine. But when you add an ad to these kinds of posters, it's difficult or impossible to tell if they just aren't quality posters or if they are attempting to boost their post count. I used to err on the side of caution here because I do not want to ban the former, just the latter, but too many of the latter are slipping through the cracks because it's very difficult to gauge someone's intentions. This is the main thing that has changed lately.

[peligro]

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It's hard. Posts like these are confusing especially when you have PPP ad.
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I don't smoke. 

Is anyone else shocked at this?

Those posts are not considered by the bitmixer campaign. So there is no confusion in this case.

[Muhammed Zakir]

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It's hard. Posts like these are confusing especially when you have PPP ad.
......

I don't smoke. 

Is anyone else shocked at this?

Those posts are not considered by the bitmixer campaign. So there is no confusion in this case.

I said confused "for the confusion of admins/mods" not the confusion "of the payment". Admins/mods don't look whether the post get paid or not, they look whether it is spammy or not.

[abyrnes81]

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It's hard. Posts like these are confusing especially when you have PPP ad.
......

I don't smoke. 

Is anyone else shocked at this?

Those posts are not considered by the bitmixer campaign. So there is no confusion in this case.

Maybe because theymos is 'against'  bitmixer.io, I remember he didn't accept their bid in the forum ad auction.

[Muhammed Zakir]

Maybe because theymos is 'against'  bitmixer.io, I remember he didn't accept their bid in the forum ad auction.

That is different thing. There is no way theymos ban people for putting a signatute they like. Nonetheless, it was BadBear who may have banned him.

[zcxvbs]

It's likey BadBear never unban people who got banned, at least  I've never seen someone get unban, so, have a trip and when you come back you will be able to post.

[hilariousandco]

It's likey BadBear never unban people who got banned, at least  I've never seen someone get unban, so, have a trip and when you come back you will be able to post.

Sometimes he may revoke permabans (though rare), though I've never seen a temp ban reduced or revoked. Best just to take the ban as a warning and change your ways upon your return and you shouldn't have any further problems.

[crazyearner]

As the old saying goes if you get banned theirs no evasion of it regardless on what is done seen many posts requesting unban and does not get removed, Simple fact of life. Dont do stupid things and serious things wont happen

[bitcoin_bagholder]

Since the sig campaign is unimportant to you (cough. cough), how about you agree to never again have a paid ad in your sig in exchange for an unbanning?

[crazyearner]

Since the sig campaign is unimportant to you (cough. cough), how about you agree to never again have a paid ad in your sig in exchange for an unbanning?

And what makes you think it  that is unimportant to me. I follow rules that are in place and I also help fight spammers, report and also provide a lot of ideas to marco that has and is adding features into his bot to prevent spammers or to at least reduce them and prevent that from happening.

I will agree to keep the signature I have for as long as the campaign lasts for and I so agree to never have a paid signature ad in my sig, so long as that you pay me 100BTC for this K thx bye 

[Vod]

Since I think I know which post got me banned (my last post?), I will not be making similar 'insubstantial' comments again.

That's good you plan on doing that, otherwise you'd probably be banned again permanently.

The good news is the forum will be giving you a second chance.  The bad news is you have to wait 14 days.  There are consequences to actions here.  Good luck!  

[alani123]

A 14-day ban isn't that bad. I've seen worse. Take it as a warning and don't do anything over the top again. Mods might not take kindly on you once you've been given a second chance. We've seen hash perma bans in the past.