How Social Justice Warriors Are Creating An Entire Generation Of Fascists

[TECSHARE]

When I read this writing, I immediately was reminded of how this forum operates and the behavior of people around here operating under the self proclaimed title of "scambuster" or something similar claiming to be doing a "service for the community".  In reality they are only seeking public justification for relentlessly harassing targeted individuals so they can continue to do so without repercussion, at the expense of the entire community. Social justice warriors are active here on Bitcointalk, only here they like to call themselves "scambusters", and they are every bit as obsessive compulsive, narcissistic, and fascist. Unfortunately this is a global issue, not just effecting Bitcointalk. Real oppressors always wear the skin of a liberator, this way they can get all of the true believer's packed with cognitive dissonance to mindlessly dump hate upon targets they designate. This is a growing problem for all walks of life. Please be on the alert for this sociopathic behavior disguised as justice.

http://thoughtcatalog.com/joshua-goldberg/2014/12/when-social-justice-warriors-attack-one-tumblr-users-experience/
http://fff.org/explore-freedom/article/creating-a-culture-of-denunciation/

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[notbatman]

When I read this writing, I immediately was reminded of how this forum operates and the behavior of people around here operating under the self proclaimed title of "scambuster" or something similar claiming to be doing a "service for the community".  In reality they are only seeking public justification for relentlessly harassing targeted individuals so they can continue to do so without repercussion, at the expense of the entire community. Social justice warriors are active here on Bitcointalk, only here they like to call themselves "scambusters", and they are every bit as obsessive compulsive, narcissistic, and fascist. Unfortunately this is a global issue, not just effecting Bitcointalk. Real oppressors always wear the skin of a liberator, this way they can get all of the true believer's packed with cognitive dissonance to mindlessly dump hate upon targets they designate. This is a growing problem for all walks of life. Please be on the alert for this sociopathic behavior disguised as justice.

http://thoughtcatalog.com/joshua-goldberg/2014/12/when-social-justice-warriors-attack-one-tumblr-users-experience/

If you're pissed at VOD it's a good bet you're involved in some shady shit or something. This forum could have saved me thousand if I had been member back in 2013 when I placed a "pre-order" but alas good 'ol phinn didn't use big enough bright coloured text in his posts.

Comparing people who point out scams to the social activists we all hate and we know are full of hot air is just wrong and playing on peoples emotions; a sociopath MO buddy.

[TECSHARE]

If you're pissed at VOD it's a good bet you're involved in some shady shit or something. This forum could have saved me thousand if I had been member back in 2013 when I placed a "pre-order" but alas good 'ol phinn didn't use big enough bright coloured text in his posts.

Comparing people who point out scams to the social activists we all hate and we know are full of hot air is just wrong and playing on peoples emotions; a sociopath MO buddy.

Remind me where I said VOD? This is an issue bigger than just VOD. So because I point out the abusive behavior of self proclaimed "scambusters" I must be up to something shady right? Lets ignore the fact that I have been registered here since 2011, completed hundreds of trades, and been trusted with thousands in value upfront and met all of my agreed obligations. I am accusing one of the holy gods of scambusting, I MUST be up to something right? Funny how there is literally no one that can accuse "scambusters" of abuse without accusations of them simply retaliating for being busted scamming. Then when some one like me with an impeccable trade reputation comes along, they have to try their best to destroy it so the points raised can be invalidated because "he is just a scammer" so no need to even think about the topic. Take a look around, when you decide what you think I am up to let me know ok? Until then keep your mimicking refractory drivel to yourself please.

Back to the actual topic...

Today I found yet another article related to this mindset which I think is infecting all walks of life (not just this forum). Funny enough it also has close historical connections to this Marxist type of social justice warrior mindset. I believe they are both intended to be complimentary forms of societal conditioning to ensure compliance under an unpopular system of control. Unscrupulous individuals just take advantage of this larger societal state in order to invoke their own mob action for personal use, just by using the existing cognitive dissonance and tension.

http://fff.org/explore-freedom/article/creating-a-culture-of-denunciation/

(for example in the case of "notbatman', he has been robbed in the past, therefore his cognitive dissonance makes him predisposed to defend abusive "scambusters" and be hostile to anyone who questions them because he believes this will save himself or others from future losses like he has suffered. Therefore based on this assumption "scambusters" must be just, and anyone who questions their behavior must be unjust. Clearly this is a much better strategy than personal responsibility in his mind. Unfortunately this will not get his money returned to him, and in fact predisposes him to being robbed again since he is dependent on others to warn him rather than learning these precautionary skills for himself.)

[chmod755]

I am not surprised to see Tumblr posts in this article. There are so many SJW posts on Tumblr

If you call for violence against white heterosexual men you're on the same level as far-right political parties, Islamic extremists, etc. - if you want to kill people: join the military.

[Lethn]

There's a huge difference between people going after scammers, particularly proven scammers and these scumbags who try to justify the surpression of free speech and expression with their alternate realities. Sorry but you're creating a pretty shitty argument here and yes, I'm inclined to agree with the others. You're acting like other people who get accused and instead of ignoring bullshit accusations like an intelligent person ( At least if it's true that any of them are innocent ) you decide to escalate everything by making passive aggressive threads about it which just make you look worse.

[Agestorzrxx]

After the fall of the soviet union western liberalism turned inward and decided to cannibalize itself.
The cannibalism gave birth to identity politics and the current wave of SJW insanity .

[TECSHARE]

There's a huge difference between people going after scammers, particularly proven scammers and these scumbags who try to justify the surpression of free speech and expression with their alternate realities. Sorry but you're creating a pretty shitty argument here and yes, I'm inclined to agree with the others. You're acting like other people who get accused and instead of ignoring bullshit accusations like an intelligent person ( At least if it's true that any of them are innocent ) you decide to escalate everything by making passive aggressive threads about it which just make you look worse.

Is there really a huge difference? Because psychologically speaking it has all the required elements for any other sort of definition of a social justice warrior. Additionally a lot of these "scambusters" actively try to suppress free speech by engaging in mob shaming and abusing the trust system to punish those who have dared to criticize their true belief of self righteousness. As far as an argument, I never really made one. I did however make an observation about the correlations between the motivation behind both types of this behavior.

Remind me again, what am I accused of? Yes, these people should just ignore the fact that they have had years long reputations ruined for no good reason. They should also just ignore the loss of sales too right? Because ignorance solves everything now doesn't it? Funny how you managed to make this discussion about me again rather than the topic at hand. I know you are fiending for some more drama to feed off of here, but please try to stick with the topic of the discussion no matter how much you just love talking about me over and over.

After the fall of the soviet union western liberalism turned inward and decided to cannibalize itself.
The cannibalism gave birth to identity politics and the current wave of SJW insanity .

The modern SJW mentality is almost like it is right out of the works of Karl Marx. IMO this was always the Soviet Union's strategy for dealing with the US, rot it from within by destroying our moral fiber and national unity then by dividing us into as many splinter groups as possible so we will do nothing but fight ourselves.

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The modern SJW mentality is almost like it is right out of the works of Karl Marx. IMO this was always the Soviet Union's strategy for dealing with the US, rot it from within by destroying our moral fiber and national unity then by dividing us into as many splinter groups as possible so we will do nothing but fight ourselves.

That wouldn't surprise me, but have you considered the possibility that SJWs might be doing their lynch-mobbing thing as a reaction to a "justice vacuum" in capitalism?

In the extreme opposite from socialism, it's a dictatorship of the rich, powerful, and infinitely corrupt. If money can buy "justice" and might is right, then the very concept of justice has been forgotten. Since social intervention does not fit into the more idealistic versions like libertarianism, it's only natural that its "source" is blamed on something else, like Marxism. I'm sure that one of those "your logical fallacy is..." fallacies will cover blaming X (SJWs) because Y (socialism/Marxism bogeyman) looks ugly because of its other flaws.

[TECSHARE]

The modern SJW mentality is almost like it is right out of the works of Karl Marx. IMO this was always the Soviet Union's strategy for dealing with the US, rot it from within by destroying our moral fiber and national unity then by dividing us into as many splinter groups as possible so we will do nothing but fight ourselves.

That wouldn't surprise me, but have you considered the possibility that SJWs might be doing their lynch-mobbing thing as a reaction to a "justice vacuum" in capitalism?

In the extreme opposite from socialism, it's a dictatorship of the rich, powerful, and infinitely corrupt. If money can buy "justice" and might is right, then the very concept of justice has been forgotten. Since social intervention does not fit into the more idealistic versions like libertarianism, it's only natural that its "source" is blamed on something else, like Marxism. I'm sure that one of those "your logical fallacy is..." fallacies will cover blaming X (SJWs) because Y (socialism/Marxism bogeyman) looks ugly because of its other flaws.

Of course I have considered it. I am not attempting to have the Capitalist vs Communist argument, because frankly I think they are both two sides of a flawed dualist dialectic just like Republicans vs Democrats. IMO they operate as two sides to the same corrupt coin. The very way this SJW mentality thrives is on the cognitive dissonance created as the state of the environment collapses and people reject their current belief systems for a reactionary polar opposite stance, which unfortunately just feeds into the next prescribed wave of abuse of those "fresh" ideals. It dovetails in perfectly with the Hegelian dialectic: problem - reaction - solution.

Just like Republicans get elected and abuse Republican ideals, and Democrats get elected and abuse Democratic ideals, the abused Capitalist ideals will soon morph into abused Socialist ideals. All it is, is a switch up of the flavors so too many people don't realize how much shit they are eating from both sides.

[GreenStox]

You are wrong guys, social justice or social equality is not fascist, it's socialist !!

All these equality dumbasses and the stupid herd that follows them, they are all leftists. Social justice by definition is socialist, a fascist justice would be one where the big corporations would decide policies through the approval of the government, but these lefist equality groups are all leftists!

So you can correct the title of the thread, they are leftists!

[Beliathon]

After the fall of the soviet union western liberalism turned inward and decided to cannibalize itself.
The cannibalism gave birth to identity politics and the current wave of SJW insanity .

This is an oversimplification. The political cannibalism you're describing is a byproduct of the capitalist system cannibalizing itself in western society for the sake of maximizing profit. We have a situation today wherein both suffering and empathy are growing by orders of magnitudes, SJWs emerge where these two forces meet. Both forces can not survive this meeting, and human empathy isn't going anywhere. Ergo, capitalism's days are numbered.

“The strategic adversary is fascism... the fascism in us all, in our heads and in our everyday behavior, the fascism that causes us to love power, to desire the very thing that dominates and exploits us.”
― Michel Foucault

A better world awaits just over the horizon.

Yours in compassion and solidarity,

World Citizen Beliathon

[TECSHARE]

You are wrong guys, social justice or social equality is not fascist, it's socialist !!

All these equality dumbasses and the stupid herd that follows them, they are all leftists. Social justice by definition is socialist, a fascist justice would be one where the big corporations would decide policies through the approval of the government, but these lefist equality groups are all leftists!

So you can correct the title of the thread, they are leftists!

You know that the nazis were socialists right? Your definition is an oversimplification at best, and confirmation bias at worst.

After the fall of the soviet union western liberalism turned inward and decided to cannibalize itself.
The cannibalism gave birth to identity politics and the current wave of SJW insanity .

This is an oversimplification. The political cannibalism you're describing is a byproduct of the capitalist system cannibalizing itself in western society for the sake of maximizing profit. We have a situation today wherein both suffering and empathy are growing by orders of magnitudes, SJWs emerge where these two forces meet. Both forces can not survive this meeting, and human empathy isn't going anywhere. Ergo, capitalism's days are numbered.

“The strategic adversary is fascism... the fascism in us all, in our heads and in our everyday behavior, the fascism that causes us to love power, to desire the very thing that dominates and exploits us.”
― Michel Foucault

A better world awaits just over the horizon.

Yours in compassion and solidarity,

World Citizen Beliathon

So, your argument is that capitalism is flawed and socialism is not? I think you are missing the point. "Social Justice Warrior" in the context I am using it in this thread is not a state to aspire to, but a form of self serving obsessive compulsive control freak behavior veiled in a layer of superficial righteousness.

Of course every one would like there to be justice in our society, but not everyone who is a self proclaimed social justice warrior is actually fighting for justice. Many of them are simply fighting to promote their own biases and ideals under the guise of justice, which IMO is a large injustice in itself exploiting these tensions created by exploitation for narcissistic self serving purposes. In short it is just another method of exploitation that perpetuates itself by posing as a fight against injustice.

[TECSHARE]

Every person starts with the same basic mix of qualities, including narcisism.

Really? This sounds like something you just made up. I would love to see your sources for this conclusion, because psychologists have been studying nature vs nurture for a very long time and there still have been no definite conclusions. Good to know you know more then all of them and can make this conclusion unilaterally.

Some people use their mix, including their narcisism, to "bust scams", others use it for other things.

Do you know what the definition of narcissism is? It is by definition some one who is almost entirely self focused. People who are only aware or care about themselves don't give a shit about helping others or serving the community, they only care about the veil of legitimacy posing as a SJW provides them so they can continue to perpetrate their abuse and narcissistic feeding freely.

Hypocrisy and irony reach astounding heights when someone complains about the narcisism of social justice.

Ok. So you have presented a premise here. Would you care to back it up with some kind of actual observation or fact, or is an accusation as good as fact in your book?

[9000]

When I read this writing, I immediately was reminded of how this forum operates and the behavior of people around here operating under the self proclaimed title of "scambuster" or something similar claiming to be doing a "service for the community".  In reality they are only seeking public justification for relentlessly harassing targeted individuals so they can continue to do so without repercussion, at the expense of the entire community. Social justice warriors are active here on Bitcointalk, only here they like to call themselves "scambusters", and they are every bit as obsessive compulsive, narcissistic, and fascist. Unfortunately this is a global issue, not just effecting Bitcointalk. Real oppressors always wear the skin of a liberator, this way they can get all of the true believer's packed with cognitive dissonance to mindlessly dump hate upon targets they designate. This is a growing problem for all walks of life. Please be on the alert for this sociopathic behavior disguised as justice.

http://thoughtcatalog.com/joshua-goldberg/2014/12/when-social-justice-warriors-attack-one-tumblr-users-experience/

Randomly screaming scam in bitcointalk would, probably, get good results, the amount of scams in the bitcoin ecosystem is gigantic.

Being skeptic is a good thing!

[Wilikon]

I spend 99.9% posting on Politics & Society and read what is going on in the main bitcoin forum. That is all. Bitcointalk is too big now. It is impossible to keep up with all the drama. I got a pm bait one day to participate in a thread (in a sub I never visit) regarding that fake gamergate chick. Never again.

A lot of people here HATE bitcoin. It is so easy to click on someone's posting history and have a vibe of the profile. Regardless of their religion, lack thereof, political belief, etc... You can tell if someone truly HATE bitcoin or not.



We need to keep our eyes on the main goal BTC BTC BTC BTC BTC BTC BTC BTC BTC




Everything else is just interstellar background noise.

[Spendulus]

When I read this writing, I immediately was reminded of how this forum operates and the behavior of people around here operating under the self proclaimed title of "scambuster" or something similar claiming to be doing a "service for the community".  In reality they are only seeking public justification for relentlessly harassing targeted individuals so they can continue to do so without repercussion, at the expense of the entire community. Social justice warriors are active here on Bitcointalk, only here they like to call themselves "scambusters", and they are every bit as obsessive compulsive, narcissistic, and fascist. Unfortunately this is a global issue, not just effecting Bitcointalk. Real oppressors always wear the skin of a liberator, this way they can get all of the true believer's packed with cognitive dissonance to mindlessly dump hate upon targets they designate. This is a growing problem for all walks of life. Please be on the alert for this sociopathic behavior disguised as justice.

http://thoughtcatalog.com/joshua-goldberg/2014/12/when-social-justice-warriors-attack-one-tumblr-users-experience/

Every person starts with the same basic mix of qualities, including narcisism.

Some people use their mix, including their narcisism, to "bust scams", others use it for other things.

Hypocrisy and irony reach astounding heights when someone complains about the narcisism of social justice.

No, people do not start with the same basic mix of qualities.  People start and remain wildly different, which is good.  Some are obsessive, some are creative and imaginative.  And some are basically driven to control other people.

[TECSHARE]

When I read this writing, I immediately was reminded of how this forum operates and the behavior of people around here operating under the self proclaimed title of "scambuster" or something similar claiming to be doing a "service for the community".  In reality they are only seeking public justification for relentlessly harassing targeted individuals so they can continue to do so without repercussion, at the expense of the entire community. Social justice warriors are active here on Bitcointalk, only here they like to call themselves "scambusters", and they are every bit as obsessive compulsive, narcissistic, and fascist. Unfortunately this is a global issue, not just effecting Bitcointalk. Real oppressors always wear the skin of a liberator, this way they can get all of the true believer's packed with cognitive dissonance to mindlessly dump hate upon targets they designate. This is a growing problem for all walks of life. Please be on the alert for this sociopathic behavior disguised as justice.

http://thoughtcatalog.com/joshua-goldberg/2014/12/when-social-justice-warriors-attack-one-tumblr-users-experience/

Randomly screaming scam in bitcointalk would, probably, get good results, the amount of scams in the bitcoin ecosystem is gigantic.

Being skeptic is a good thing!

Randomly screaming getting good results? So you are in favor of the shotgun method of scambusting? Being skeptical is a good thing, but just randomly accusing, attacking, and shaming people is not. You think it is a good idea to act like this because it MIGHT catch scammers?

What about all the honest people who were driven away by this behavior? People who wanted nothing but to help Bitcoin grow but found the level of harassment they received in this community not worth it and just left. What about the users who spend years building up a reputation just to have those years of work destroyed over some one's guess work? It is not like there is any standard of evidence maintained any more. Basically the rule is now if enough people scream that you are a scammer, you are a scammer, facts be damned. I argue that just one of these honest users lost is worse than having 5 scammers in their place. You know why? People who due due diligence in screening their trading partners don't have trouble with scammers very often. It is almost always people who get lazy, or take unnecessary risks that get ripped off. This is something individuals can work to prevent for themselves. You know what these people can't do? They can't replace the market force of having another user actively and honestly trading within the Bitcoin system. The shotgun method of scambusting is very destructive to the HONEST community as well.

[tvbcof]

After the fall of the soviet union western liberalism turned inward and decided to cannibalize itself.
The cannibalism gave birth to identity politics and the current wave of SJW insanity .

This is an oversimplification. The political cannibalism you're describing is a byproduct of the capitalist system cannibalizing itself in western society for the sake of maximizing profit. We have a situation today wherein both suffering and empathy are growing by orders of magnitudes, SJWs emerge where these two forces meet. Both forces can not survive this meeting, and human empathy isn't going anywhere. Ergo, capitalism's days are numbered.

“The strategic adversary is fascism... the fascism in us all, in our heads and in our everyday behavior, the fascism that causes us to love power, to desire the very thing that dominates and exploits us.”
― Michel Foucault

A better world awaits just over the horizon.

Yours in compassion and solidarity,

World Citizen Beliathon

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I fear totalitarianism mostly.  Socialism and Fascism are both tolerable in moderation, but both are historically stepping stones toward totalitarianism which is what I find increasingly alarming.  What we have now is a merger of the worst of both, and of the participants here on this forum, you're work seems to exemplify this about the best.  It is difficult to say whether the Fascists are using the Socialists or the Socialists are using the Fascists to better effect.  Both think they are going to vanquish the other when they get to a point where the other is no longer useful.  The salient point is that each is catalyzing the other on the path toward totalitarianism.  This is why I've walked away from my former associations with Socialism...and I'm picking up the pace.

I just read a bit more Bertrand Russell last night about the theory and practice of totalitarianism.  The dominant school of thought is that the collective is the rightful owner of the power and it can be siphoned down to the individual level as convenient.  I always have felt innately that the opposite is more appropriate, and even when I was more inclined to associate with Socialism who clearly don't share this feeling.

At this point, the things about Libertariansm that I don't like and the things about Socialism that I do like have not changed, but I'll support the Libertarians politically.  The main reason for this is that the path from Socialism, Fascism, or today's nasty combination of both is into something truly awful.  The path from Libertarianism is toward something better as the sharp corners are chipped off.

I'll have to hope that if the Libertarians get their place in the sun, they are not immediately subverted by totalitarians, and work to help avoid this eventuality if they do.  It's a longshot, but it's our best hope.  What the Left has brought us already is to a very precarious place.  At least in the U.S...I don't know or care much about the rest of the Western world but I suspect that the starry-eyed longing that the Libs here in the U.S. feel toward European Socialist constructs won't seem as sweet as they expect if they are transplanted here.  And if they are swept across the pond by some sort of a one-world totalitarian government the outcome will end up being quite nightmarish relative to what we have today.

[Beliathon]

and if they are swept across the pond by some sort of a one-world totalitarian government the outcome will end up being quite nightmarish relative to what we have today.

If modern America doesn't already seem nightmarish to you, I'm afraid you have some serious privilege that needs checking.

Sweet universe, please spare me from yet another white male libertarian...

[tvbcof]

and if they are swept across the pond by some sort of a one-world totalitarian government the outcome will end up being quite nightmarish relative to what we have today.

If modern America doesn't already seem nightmarish to you, I'm afraid you have some serious privilege that needs checking.

Sweet universe, please spare me from yet another white male libertarian...

I happen to be a white male (and straight to boot...please forgive me...I did not choose it) but I know plenty of people here in 'modern America' who are not white males and have a pretty decent life that they are quite happy with.  If your experience is different then perhaps it is more of a personal issue than one which can be ascribed to deficiencies in our society.  Furthermore, a wholesale change to something resembling your favored example society may not be sufficient to resolve whatever ails you.