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November 12, 2022, 03:51:01 AM
Last edit: November 27, 2022, 12:07:29 PM by cryptostuneris
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Update:

I think OWL.games cheated me anyway,

I have even more proof.. Their compensation for me was not even 10% of total win.

A contract was signed in which I undertook not to disclose the terms of the contract.

However, next day I immediately consulted a lawyer (unfortunately, contract was already signed) and immediately informed OWL.games that I wanted to terminate their contract and would immediately transfer all their compensation back.

Why was the contract signed? I waited longer than 13 days for my winnings and I didn't expect to get anything back, so ...

Official answer from bgaming where they specify the maximum deadlines for reports - https://ibb.co/t4X0xqc

I understand that by continuing this thread I risk legal action. I am ready, I have enough proof that OWL.games is deliberately cheating their customers.


A little later, I will provide more evidence.
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November 12, 2022, 04:06:56 AM
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Welp, i really thought owl.games don't ask KYC, well, since they are licensed this is pretty normal if they changed their policy, ot maybe for someone who obly deposit and withdraw large amount.

Few questions, your account was suspended after what? After you win? After you withdraw? Or what.
I guess you should give them at least 5 days before the review of your KYC.

Some tips when winning large amount. Withdraw it little by little so their system wont trigger when doing large amounts.

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November 12, 2022, 04:09:34 AM
Last edit: November 12, 2022, 04:32:57 AM by owlgames
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Hello,

November 11-12 days, I won over 80k USD at Owl.Games casino. My account is currently suspended and awaiting KYC confirmation. Proofs: https://imgur.com/a/EEwINYc

My deposit proofs (2000USDt)
photo: https://imgur.com/a/y5uDCTa

My game history:
https://imgur.com/a/S6w0Q1n

I have submitted all required documents at this time (driver's license, selfie, bank statement, phone verification)

I will update situacion every day.

If Owl.games withdraw my win - it will have good advertising,

If not, there will be strong anti-advertising and legal problems.



When something suspicious happens, we do ask for kyc.

Here is what our risk team reported:

a BRAND NEW account, deposited 2k USDT, bet 1200 USDT in a sports game, used 630 USDT to start to play slots, every bet won. Among the 247 bets you placed, 240/247 = 97% win rate. And as everybody can see in the screenshot, he bet 3000+ per round and every round won. Targeted at one game provider, and won 80k profits within a short time.

Your betting records was sent to game providers for risk analysis. We will update you on the status as soon as they get back from us. At the same time, we have delisted all buy-in games from that game provider for safety concern.


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And in one hour, this player opened a BRAND NEW account in bitcointalk here reporting it. Where is your old acc bro? Do not say you are new to bitcointalk.






If you have any questions regarding the gaming platform please reach us via our 24x7 support chat on owl.games website. We do not pick up tickets on bitcointalk forum.
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November 12, 2022, 04:38:25 AM
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^ When do we see the update?

Wow, that's a lucky dude. Every bet won so the reason for asking KYC is just something suspicious happens. It's very interesting how this lucky guy managed to win every bet.  Most of all what is owl suspecting? The buy-in games? But he is good to have documented every screenshot. He may not be new to bitcointalk but that's not an issue anyway.



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November 12, 2022, 04:59:29 AM
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Hello,

November 11-12 days, I won over 80k USD at Owl.Games casino. My account is currently suspended and awaiting KYC confirmation. Proofs: https://imgur.com/a/EEwINYc

My deposit proofs (2000USDt)
photo: https://imgur.com/a/y5uDCTa

My game history:
https://imgur.com/a/S6w0Q1n

I have submitted all required documents at this time (driver's license, selfie, bank statement, phone verification)

I will update situacion every day.

If Owl.games withdraw my win - it will have good advertising,

If not, there will be strong anti-advertising and legal problems.
You should move this scam accusations 1st of all. From the way the owl games rep answered you, it doesn't look good for your case. 97% win rate lol. Of course it will need verified from the provider but again, doesn't look good.

In order for the community to help or get on your side, you need a believable story. I'm not guaranteeing you are lying but it looks super fishy and if the casino will not pay unless the provider says its legit wins. So your line of " If Owl.games withdraw my win - it will have good advertising,

If not, there will be strong anti-advertising and legal problems. is total shit.

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November 12, 2022, 05:20:19 AM
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why not withdraw your money little by little from the start, at least your account is not asked for KYC verification maybe withdraw money beyond the limit, do you want to withdraw all your money there, if it is possible to withdraw all your money of course you have to follow their rules to complete all your documents, many casino sites also have the same rules so you must follow and complete them, I will see your update later, hopefully you can withdraw your money, btw congrats on your win  Wink

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First, i'm not familiar with owl.games, but when i searching it, i found the ANN https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5378280.0

Secondly, i would rather playing on other trusted gambling sites instead new site, why would i risk my money to new site while i knew trusted gambling site?

Third, there is no reason for site to suspend your account just because you want withdraw your money, which i found it suspicious. Your WD should be pending, but not about suspending your account.

Asking our KYC when we want WD our money actually a normal thing, but its back to every site's rules. Hopefully you can get your money once your KYC approved

why not withdraw your money little by little from the start, at least your account is not asked for KYC verification maybe withdraw money beyond the limit, do you want to withdraw all your money there, if it is possible to withdraw all your money of course you have to follow their rules to complete all your documents, many casino sites also have the same rules so you must follow and complete them, I will see your update later, hopefully you can withdraw your money, btw congrats on your win  Wink
No point to WD his money little by little, WD should be instantly . If you won $80k, would you like to WD $100 for 800 times? Obviously not
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I've never seen a player's history like this. The road from 2000$ to 85,000$ is too long to be reached without highs and lows on the bankroll. On this case it was easy for OP, since he went smoothly since the beginning to his final target in a very short time period without losses meanwhile. Probably the history shown by OP is more unlikely to happen for real than winning on the lottery against million of people. This story is very strange and the casino is right for investigating it further before allowing the withdrawal. On the other hand, if he played honestly I think these statistics should be sent to Guinness Book.

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November 12, 2022, 05:37:15 AM
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When something suspicious happens, we ask for KYC.

Here's what our risk team reported:

a BRAND NEW account, deposited 2k USDT, bet 1200 USDT on a sports game, used 630 USDT to start playing slots, and every bet won. Among the 247 bets you placed, 240/247 = 97% win rate. And as everyone can see in the screenshot, he bet 3000+ per round and every round won. Targeted a game provider, and won 80k profit in a short time.

I don't seem to see anything wrong with what the new account did, as far as I can see you are questioning the 97% winning rate of the new account that deposited 2k$ but when the gambler who plays with you often loses straight to that is a high percentage of defeat in your favor, isn't it? it seems like you want to expose the new account as committing fraud, that's what you want to convey. How can that new account cheat you if you are the one who controls that platform?


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And within an hour, this player opened a BRAND NEW account on bitcointalk here reporting this. Where is your old acc bro? Don't say you're new to bitcointalk.

First of all, I understand the person who created a new account, of course, he may just be keeping his account here on the forum, or he may just be a newbie here, it could be that... So are there any rules for the owl games that must have a name they here on this forum platform should be the same name they use in owl games. Just asking..

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November 12, 2022, 05:55:09 AM
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I've never seen a player's history like this. The road from 2000$ to 85,000$ is too long to be reached without highs and lows on the bankroll. On this case it was easy for OP, since he went smoothly since the beginning to his final target in a very short time period without losses meanwhile. Probably the history shown by OP is more unlikely to happen for real than winning on the lottery against million of people. This story is very strange and the casino is right for investigating it further before allowing the withdrawal. On the other hand, if he played honestly I think these statistics should be sent to Guinness Book.

That is why it is sent to their game provider for risk assessment, if your bets are clean and it passed the risk assessment then OP  can get your money I wish I had OP's luck in betting 2000$ to 85,000$ is not easy to reach

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a BRAND NEW account, deposited 2k USDT, bet 1200 USDT in a sports game, used 630 USDT to start to play slots, every bet won. Among the 247 bets you placed, 240/247 = 97% win rate. And as everybody can see in the screenshot, he bet 3000+ per round and every round won. Targeted at one game provider, and won 80k profits within a short time.

OP is extremely lucky for this kind of bet I don't doubt this but it should pass the assessment I still believe that it can be done but it's so rare we'll wait for the update if this is a Guinness Book of record worthy,  as you say or there's something suspicious on OP's bet.

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November 12, 2022, 05:57:47 AM
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Latest Update:


Game Provider is looking into the bet logs. We have temporarily suspended the players' acc. Related games from the same game provider are delisted according to their advice too.

As soon as we hear from them we will post more follow-ups.

(FYI it's $630 -> 80k and every bet is max bet)


Also we have been rugged pull by other game providers' bug for several times before as well.

It is also a standard procedure to check on suspicious game results for operators with game providers.

Thanks

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November 12, 2022, 06:04:12 AM
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Latest Update:


Game Provider is looking into the bet logs. We have temporarily suspended the players' acc. Related games from the same game provider are delisted according to their advice too.

As soon as we hear from them we will post more follow-ups.

(FYI it's $630 -> 80k and every bet is max bet)

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Does that mean, its useless for OP to submit his KYC? is it from your site rule or  gamedeveloper ?
Would like to hear the point to suspend his account, are you afraid he will keep winning from your site? He could just make new account, then won, then you just terminated his winning because of reason used multiple accounts.
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November 12, 2022, 06:10:02 AM
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As we said, we HAVE already delisted the games from the site according to the game provider's advice.

So if it's not a bug due to the game provider, he can create new acc and win of coz.

FYI, the risk team sees winning from bigger game provider more credible: such as evolution live casinos, pragmatic play etc.

For slots from smaller game provider, bigger winnings are always treated with more caution.

So I would suggest the lucky dude can create new account and play Live casino, you will definitely get your winnings.

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November 12, 2022, 06:12:49 AM
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Latest Update:


Game Provider is looking into the bet logs. We have temporarily suspended the players' acc. Related games from the same game provider are delisted according to their advice too.

As soon as we hear from them we will post more follow-ups.

(FYI it's $630 -> 80k and every bet is max bet)

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Does that mean, its useless for OP to submit his KYC? is it from your site rule or  gamedeveloper ?
Would like to hear the point to suspend his account, are you afraid he will keep winning from your site? He could just make new account, then won, then you just terminated his winning because of reason used multiple accounts.


Is that your new acc? LOL.

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Is that your new acc? LOL.
Nope. Just want to know the reason. Thanks for explanation.

For an admin account saying LOL about someone asking a problem isn't professional way IMO.


So I would suggest the lucky dude can create new account and play Live casino, you will definitely get your winnings.
Hopefully he won't get another suspend later if he does that 😉

Update : @owl.games, i never see binance twitter account said LOL until now. Anyway, lets just wait for your game developer updates about OP
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November 12, 2022, 06:19:04 AM
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Is that your new acc? LOL.
Nope. Just want to know the reason. Thanks for explanation.

For an admin account saying LOL about someone asking a problem isn't professional way IMO.


So I would suggest the lucky dude can create new account and play Live casino, you will definitely get your winnings.
Hopefully he won't get another suspend later if he does that 😉


We have provided adequate reasons and update. For now we are waiting too.

Also I am HUMAN customer support rather than ROBOT.

You can check binance official twitter acc. I bet they can say 'LOL' yeah.


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November 12, 2022, 06:35:13 AM
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No point to WD his money little by little, WD should be instantly . If you won $80k, would you like to WD $100 for 800 times? Obviously not
yes that is if he doesn't want to send KYC documents for his account and doesn't want to bother with the regulations there of course this way can be an alternative, I didn't create an account at owl.games so I don't know if they have a withdrawal limit so ask the OP to send and complete the document

Latest Update:


Game Provider is looking into the bet logs. We have temporarily suspended the players' acc. Related games from the same game provider are delisted according to their advice too.

As soon as we hear from them we will post more follow-ups.

(FYI it's $630 -> 80k and every bet is max bet)


Also we have been rugged pull by other game providers' bug for several times before as well.

It is also a standard procedure to check on suspicious game results for operators with game providers.

Thanks

at least you from the owl team have provided clarification and detailed reasons for the problem the OP is facing, it is important because to maintain the good name of your casino, even if he is just a new account user in this forum

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November 12, 2022, 06:57:30 AM
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November 11-12 days, I won over 80k USD at Owl.Games casino. My account is currently suspended and awaiting KYC confirmation. Proofs: https://imgur.com/a/EEwINYc

I confess that I'm having a lot of difficulty understanding, KYC and AML Is about money laundering, how is a person who deposits 2000$ in a casino and wins 85000$ doing money laundering? and why the hell didn't you ask for KYC when you deposited 2000$?

if you had lost the 2000$ would you have been asked to do KYC? I do not think so!

From what I understand the casino rep didn't suspend your account due to KYC, they are suspending your account because they think you cheated at games, that's what I understand, so why wasn't the casino clear about this? Why did they make you KYC when the reason for your account suspension is suspected of cheating?

As we said, we HAVE already delisted the games from the site according to the game provider's advice.

So if it's not a bug due to the game provider, he can create new acc and win of coz.

FYI, the risk team sees winning from bigger game provider more credible: such as evolution live casinos, pragmatic play etc.

For slots from smaller game provider, bigger winnings are always treated with more caution.

So I would suggest the lucky dude can create new account and play Live casino, you will definitely get your winnings.

he created an account, deposited and won (maybe he cheated or maybe he won legitimately) but it would not be recommended to create another account to have the same fate as the previous account, the question here is:

If OP cheated, how did he do it? does that mean that OP has contact with the game provider and the game provider of tips for OP? because if that's the case the game provider can say that OP won fairly!

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No point to WD his money little by little, WD should be instantly . If you won $80k, would you like to WD $100 for 800 times? Obviously not
yes that is if he doesn't want to send KYC documents for his account and doesn't want to bother with the regulations there of course this way can be an alternative, I didn't create an account at owl.games so I don't know if they have a withdrawal limit so ask the OP to send and complete the document

Not that simple dude because I'm sure even if OP try to withdraw little by little, his account might already been flagged by the system because of his betting style/pattern or because of his total winning during the session. In this case the casino will do the same by asking KYC. One more thing, KYC is not only about how much you are trying to withdraw but it can be for other reasons.

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why not withdraw your money little by little from the start, at least your account is not asked for KYC verification maybe withdraw money beyond the limit, do you want to withdraw all your money there, if it is possible to withdraw all your money of course you have to follow their rules to complete all your documents
It is not smart to deposit your money into any platform (exchange or casino), later manage to double your money but DIDN'T withdrawal the initial capital first. If you do this, whatever happens with your won amount would be fine.

The story of OP (assumes Owl.games told us the truth) is unbelievable. Because basically casinos and game providers don't design their games and platforms for users to have such absolutely high win rate (up to 97%)  Huh

Not that simple dude because I'm sure even if OP try to withdraw little by little, his account might already been flagged by the system because of his betting style/pattern or because of his total winning during the session. In this case the casino will do the same by asking KYC.
Casinos will do investigation and base on betting style, targeted games / game providers and other data to make a conclusion. After investigation, account will be flagged definitely if betting style and other suspicious activities detected.

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It can be requested if cheating is detected or if deposits have red flags like money laundering and against casino's Terms of Service.

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