Failed to submit review and also did not refund the payment.

[AB de Royse777]

User: jamyr

Payment reference in campaign: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5460259.msg62593757#msg62593757

Hello Royse,

Bitcointalk Rank: Sr. Member
Lifetime earned merit: 373
Bech32 address: bc1qjuruw650aqp0le6cq2v8yh7ur6pvujxsf4es02

Scammed amount: 0.003 BTC

Some details: User was paid for Mixin Safe - Decentralized Bitcoin Custody Solutions | Review Campaign. Given his first deadline to submit review before 31/07/2023 UTC. Missed the deadline. Then given another extended deadline, he missed it again. Reminded to complete the job before the deadline but never listened, asked to refund by 10/08 which is over now. This is unexpected.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5460259.msg62632852#msg62632852
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5460259.msg62648510#msg62648510
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5460259.msg62662538#msg62662538
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5460259.msg62655696#msg62655696

Loss of my time, my client's time, damage of financial contract.
Considering the time wasted, and overall loss, the scammed amount is more than 0.003 BTC


Flag is in progress: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3195
Feel free to support.

Thank you.

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[Charles-Tim]

I have tagged jamyr red and I support the flag. At least if he has no time for the review, he can send the money back. To send bitcoin from a wallet takes just little time.

[decodx]

His forum activity was rather sporadic even prior to enrolling in the review campaign. Nonetheless, he had a responsibility to honor his commitment, especially after he requested an extension for the deadline. It's either that or he should return the money. Pretty stupid way to ruin Sr. Member account.

I also support the flag.

[UmerIdrees]

I have tagged jamyr red and I support the flag. At least if he has no time for the review, he can send the money back. To send bitcoin from a wallet takes just little time.

I was just wondering why would a Sr. Member will scam a 90-100$ amount  

I thought he might not be active on the forum recently but then I saw he was last active on August 05. He should have returned this amount if he could not review it or maybe he did not understand the Mixin safe project but whatever was the reason he should have been in communication with the manager.

[Cantsay]

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Before dropping an application for a job an user is supposed to analyse their strength if it’s something they’ll be able to do, in the case of @jamyr I think his was coupled with greed cause I see no reason why you’ll apply for a job you know very well that you won’t be able to complete.

I saw the thread when it was newly launched and I since I realised that I won’t be able to make a complete review due to my real life activity I had to ignore it and let those that will be capable to deliver the job apply and do the job they were paid for.

And now this has cost him his account and I’m sure returning the money now will no longer have any effect whatsoever, that’s pretty stupid of him if you ask me.

[Latviand]

Before dropping an application for a job an user is supposed to analyse their strength if it’s something they’ll be able to do, in the case of @jamyr I think his was coupled with greed cause I see no reason why you’ll apply for a job you know very well that you won’t be able to complete.

I don't think that this is true most of the time though, I was lucky that @Royse777 accepted me even though it's my first review and he put me in the 2nd batch. I didn't have the experience and the initial requirements to do a review but I was able to do it. The reason I think why he still applied is because he probably read that the payment will be given first and that's the beginning of your deadline for the review. The saddest thing about this is that he was willing to destroy his reputation for a measly $90 worth of bitcoin.

[yahoo62278]

I have tagged jamyr red and I support the flag. At least if he has no time for the review, he can send the money back. To send bitcoin from a wallet takes just little time.

I was just wondering why would a Sr. Member will scam a 90-100$ amount  

I thought he might not be active on the forum recently but then I saw he was last active on August 05. He should have returned this amount if he could not review it or maybe he did not understand the Mixin safe project but whatever was the reason he should have been in communication with the manager.

Unfortunately some people are just desperate. I've seen people scam for $5. Why ruin an account for $100? Who know their reason, but looks to me like they will likely not be returning after this.

Flag supported it's too bad too cause I always got along with jamyr

[hugeblack]

I was just wondering why would a Sr. Member will scam a 90-100$ amount  

This account may have an army of alt accounts, or this account may have been sold/hacked^[1]. I am not good at finding alt accounts, but if a topic was created about it, we may find an alt account in one of the active campaigns and be able to recover your money.

I have tagged jamyr red and I support the flag. At least if he has no time for the review, he can send the money back. To send bitcoin from a wallet takes just little time.

I'm not going to delete it and will change it into natural trust it if it gets resolved but I do remember coming across this account username somewhere.

Flag supported

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7/2/2020 6:47:24 PM   password reset via email
7/25/2020 9:08:58 AM   password reset via email
12/30/2020 10:58:34 AM   password reset via secret question
12/30/2020 10:58:48 AM   password reset via secret question

[examplens]

Flag supported by my side. I'm posting this just so I can get notifications if there is a significant change.

As jamyr is inactive after applying for this campaign, I would leave the room if he really had a valid reason why he couldn't do the task he participated in. Shit happens. However,  he was present at the forum on August 5, so he should be informed about the whole thing.
Plus, as far as I can see the bitcoins he received for this campaign, he sent them on almost instantly. Certainly, lack of information cannot be an excuse.

[Charles-Tim]

Flag supported by my side. I'm posting this just so I can get notifications if there is a significant change.

As jamyr is inactive after applying for this campaign, I would leave the room if he really had a valid reason why he couldn't do the task he participated in. Shit happens.

You have a good post about this. But posting to a thread do not give notification. Or does it? What I know and that I have been doing is to click on notify which can be seen at the top right or lower left corner beside reply.

Jamyr defaulted a loan for over 14 months. He has Darkstar_ active loan to pay which has been since August 27th, 2022. I am not the type that will think he will pay this back, but I may be wrong. He can prove me wrong. Let us see.

[robelneo]

Supported the flag and tagged him he is not really active here there's a gap in his posts and the review campaign is his opportunity to scam he once defaulted on a loan and paid it after 14 months but considering the trust given to him and the damages to Royse's client I don't think he deserves to be in any campaign anymore or take a loan even if he returned it now or later, it's in his character.

[examplens]

You have a good post about this. But posting to a thread do not give notification. Or does it? What I know and that I have been doing is to click on notify which can be seen at the top right or lower left corner beside reply.

I have a habit of checking "Show new replies to your posts" even before the appearance of Telegram bot notifications. Less experienced members may not know that it is necessary to make a mention, but in this way, it is more likely that I will not miss a possible update in this case. Although Royse777 is a responsible person, I believe that he would not allow a possible positive resolution of the case to go unnoticed.

Jamyr defaulted a loan for over 14 months. He has Darkstar_ active loan to pay which has been since August 27th, 2022. I am not the type that will think he will pay this back, but I may be wrong. He can prove me wrong. Let us see.

I don't know about Jamyr case and this loan, but Darkstar_ is offline for a while, so for now we have no real information about the status of that loan.

[holydarkness]

I see that jamyr's last online activity was on 5th of August, though you've been very lenient to him by extending the deadline several times, shouldn't we consider a possibility that he's not aware of your latest request to refund the up-front payment, given your post requesting the refund is on 6th of August [as also listed as reference link on the opening post], one day after his last online date?

He still failed to met his end of bargain, and thus his future deal and enrollment should still be taken with grains of salt, but maybe --just to be sure we ventured all possible scenario-- he has no intention to not refunding the payment, he simply did not noticed the final request and warning.

[Smartvirus]

Jamyr is surely a familiar username on the forum and whatever the excuse might be on the user’s part, it better be a dammed good one because, it ain’t funny having to bridge a contract the way it all played out. Not taking caution like informing the manager on any development that might result to delays or not having to meet up with the agreements as specified in Ann thread or not heeding the manager’s request for a refund within a set date.

What is worst, the coin appears to have been sent from the received address and not to the manager’s refund address but actually spent possibly in two phases.

First phase: BTC0.00270000 ($81.22)
Transaction Hash: b878264e8b78b63587f380b95590d0fb7a584b606923edfbd99026fb4ea9052c
Recipient Address: 1ASmUNgzwyD2kUxbH96ungfqMZvpQacnGs
Change address: bc1qjuruw650aqp0le6cq2v8yh7ur6pvujxsf4es02

Second phase: BTC0.00023968 ($7.21)
Transaction Hash: ed35599c6403525129693213e5d52844a609a3cc3cc3d1c51c3dc2ece7e54dc5
Recipient Address: 3LbqPh4cK41cCcpNWtn8pq2hFsEt99AnQ2

All these transactions played out within 4th and 5th of august, 2023.
I think one who could find the time to make all these transactions should as well make room for the contract or do the necessary to maintain reputation. On these notes, it’s hard not to support flag so, yeah.

User haven’t proven to be good with loans and at the time,
Has an active loan with Darkstar of which, might just prove the inevitable!

Red flag supported!

[FatFork]

Flag supported.

I see that jamyr's last online activity was on 5th of August, though you've been very lenient to him by extending the deadline several times, shouldn't we consider a possibility that he's not aware of your latest request to refund the up-front payment, given your post requesting the refund is on 6th of August [as also listed as reference link on the opening post], one day after his last online date?

He still failed to met his end of bargain, and thus his future deal and enrollment should still be taken with grains of salt, but maybe --just to be sure we ventured all possible scenario-- he has no intention to not refunding the payment, he simply did not noticed the final request and warning.

I believe he is fully aware of his actions. It has already been 10+ days since he missed his initial deadline, and he was active on the forum during this period, giving him ample opportunity to return the payment if he really wanted to. The requirement for a refund is clearly stated in the initial conditions of the review campaign, which he had agreed to. Moreover, it's worth noting that the extension of his first deadline was granted at his own request, as indicated here. Given these circumstances, I believe that his current lack of communication is intentional.

[Doan9269]

He should know that there's no way to eat his egg and still have it, it's easier to have review on time before other busy schedules showed up, despite his failure to compliance to the deadline given, an extension was made to enable him have a second chance, i believe he was not the only one involved, others take actions but he shows negligence, this is a contract you signed in for, if you think it's unbearable anymore, then make refundment, maybe we should consider if at all he was that stucked in an emergency that warrant him having no access to Internet or mobile phone, but if he's lucky to have later sent back the fund, the manager may and may not erace the tag.

[GiftedMAN]

I expected jamyyr to have contacted the op via pm to explain things to him since he couldn't meet up with the review at least there would have been a consideration for him but since it appears that he's not willing to refund the money and he's not eager to do the review as expected I think he deserves the red tag.

[SamReomo]

Flag supported but I really feel bad by seeing that a user with 1736 activity has done something like this. Although, he's a senior member by rank, but his activity and number of posts show that he has been quite active on the forum for a long time. I would always support Royse sir because I have worked with him and he's the kindest and most supportive manager on the forum. I have also participated in the same review campaign as well in another review campaign of Royse sir where he has sent to review money to my wallet before completion of the review. I have completed and submitted my review on time because if someone gives us such opportunity then its our duty to do our best to complete the tasks on time.

It's totally unfair and inhuman to do something like this with a reputed manager like Royse sir, and if the accused gets my comment then I suggest him/her to refund the money and say sorry for his act. I'm quite sure that he/she may get another chance if he/she refunds the money after seeing the comments on this thread.

I have noticed that the user hasn't earned a single merit in last 120 days and that shows clearly that the user is not contributing a lot to the forum. I recommend Royse sir to have merit requirement of at least 5 in last 120 days for the next review campaigns as the the users who have earned those merits will always try their best to complete the tasks on time because those users are mostly the active users of the forum and they would never do anything that may create problems for their account.

[acroman08]

not sure which part of the Philippines he is from but it's possible that jamyr was affected by the recent typhoon here in the Philippines, that being said, refunding the money after failing to submit the review even after asking to extend the deadline would have been the right move. sorry you had to deal with this Royse777, Flag supported.

[Poker Player]

I have also supported the flag. What I see is that payment was made upfront. I don't know if this is usual or what because I have never participated in review but I suppose that if the payment was made after submitting a satisfactory review instead of upfront, this wouldn't have happened. However, I understand that maybe the payment was made this way for simplicity and convenience.