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Title: Will NEM always live in NXT's shadow because it started as a NXT asset?
Post by: TruthBear on April 12, 2015, 12:17:28 AM
I'm curious to know what people think. I'm seriously considering buying some long-term alts but I don't want them to go no where. It feels like the silver (NEM) and gold (NXT) scenario again (LTC = silver, BTC = gold).


Title: Re: Will NEM always live in NXT's shadow because it started as a NXT asset?
Post by: Hollowman338 on April 12, 2015, 01:17:18 AM
NEM has no distinguishable use yet, so now's the time to buy if you think it can grow.


Title: Re: Will NEM always live in NXT's shadow because it started as a NXT asset?
Post by: dasource on April 12, 2015, 01:47:37 AM
It's a good question ... It will ultimately come down to how NEM is taken to market over the next 6-12 months.


Title: Re: Will NEM always live in NXT's shadow because it started as a NXT asset?
Post by: TaunSew on April 12, 2015, 01:54:33 AM
Will Bitcoin always live in eGold's shadow because it started as an eGold successor?

Answer:  Yes.  Bitcoin has yet to beat the estimated capitalization and userbase which eGold supposedly had back in 2008 before it was shut down.   :D  ;D


Title: Re: Will NEM always live in NXT's shadow because it started as a NXT asset?
Post by: nextgencoin on April 12, 2015, 02:05:58 AM
NEM will always be in NAS's shadow. ;D


Title: Re: Will NEM always live in NXT's shadow because it started as a NXT asset?
Post by: 0nlyBTC on April 12, 2015, 02:37:48 AM
I'm curious to know what people think. I'm seriously considering buying some long-term alts but I don't want them to go no where. It feels like the silver (NEM) and gold (NXT) scenario again (LTC = silver, BTC = gold).

Just know that NEM isn't another shitcoin or scamcoin. Its a great time to buy XEM right IMHO. 


Title: Re: Will NEM always live in NXT's shadow because it started as a NXT asset?
Post by: Undermood on April 12, 2015, 06:03:42 AM
NEM will always be in NAS's shadow. ;D
I don't think so. NEM has good beginning, which has new featurers and enhanced security. The dev teams is working hard, dedicated and innovative. If you believe it, why not buy it right now?


Title: Re: Will NEM always live in NXT's shadow because it started as a NXT asset?
Post by: iGotSpots on April 12, 2015, 06:12:40 AM
Bought some. Tried it. Wasn't impressed. Sold out. I blame all the hype building up to it. People don't realize that is just as detrimental to companies and products as false promises


Title: Re: Will NEM always live in NXT's shadow because it started as a NXT asset?
Post by: TaunSew on April 12, 2015, 06:27:45 AM
Bought some. Tried it. Wasn't impressed. Sold out. I blame all the hype building up to it. People don't realize that is just as detrimental to companies and products as false promises

The same has been said about any alternate or even bitcoin.  Heck even with $Fiat - when was the last time you were like: "wow!  This paper, the color, the hidden occult symbols... *mind blown* having so much fun!".  The only fun thing about money is exchanging that piece of paper for fun stuff.   :D


Title: Re: Will NEM always live in NXT's shadow because it started as a NXT asset?
Post by: iGotSpots on April 12, 2015, 06:32:24 AM
Bought some. Tried it. Wasn't impressed. Sold out. I blame all the hype building up to it. People don't realize that is just as detrimental to companies and products as false promises

The same has been said about any alternate or even bitcoin.  Heck even with $Fiat - when was the last time you were like: "wow!  This paper, the color, the hidden occult symbols... *mind blown* having so much fun!".  The only fun thing about money is exchanging that piece of paper for fun stuff.   :D


You are correct, and proving my point  ;)


Title: Re: Will NEM always live in NXT's shadow because it started as a NXT asset?
Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on April 12, 2015, 06:36:15 AM
If the Bitshares' Corporatist / Communists can't keep their "assets" scam lucrative, what makes you think the NEMorons can do it?


Title: Re: Will NEM always live in NXT's shadow because it started as a NXT asset?
Post by: kennyP on April 12, 2015, 07:31:04 AM
2kool & UP working the same thread again, just like the good ole' days (the NXT mega thread). Almost makes me tear up lol


Title: Re: Will NEM always live in NXT's shadow because it started as a NXT asset?
Post by: EvilDave on April 12, 2015, 07:59:37 AM
Getting back to the OP: I don't see how having initial NEMstake traded on the NXT Asset Exchange can have any effect on NEMs future.
You can trade BTC using the AE, that doesn't put Bitcoin in NXT's shadow. (yet  ;D  ::) )

The fact that much of the NEM community continue to define NEM in terms of how it's doing in relation to NXT is an issue.
I sometimes detect a little bit of cargo cultism around NEM......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult


Title: Re: Will NEM always live in NXT's shadow because it started as a NXT asset?
Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on April 12, 2015, 08:08:59 AM
The truth of the matter is this...

Nobody with any common sense, integrity or decency wants to be involved with this ridiculous joke of an "egalitarian" cryptocurrency which is based on the premise of "All stakes are equal, but some stakes are more equal than others" and "if you cheat to get more stakes, you deserve them".

Plus, you have a 50% chance that anybody involved in NEM is in fact UtopianFuture and a 100% chance that the person believes it is ok to associate with liars, cheaters and thieves if they can make money.

The fact is that NEM was started out of pure greed and anyone buying into NEM will end up with a whole lot of nothing instead of a little bit of something.


Title: Re: Will NEM always live in NXT's shadow because it started as a NXT asset?
Post by: TruthBear on April 12, 2015, 09:52:07 AM
Getting back to the OP: I don't see how having initial NEMstake traded on the NXT Asset Exchange can have any effect on NEMs future.
You can trade BTC using the AE, that doesn't put Bitcoin in NXT's shadow. (yet  ;D  ::) )

The fact that much of the NEM community continue to define NEM in terms of how it's doing in relation to NXT is an issue.
I sometimes detect a little bit of cargo cultism around NEM......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult

Bitcoin didn't start its life on NXT AE like NEM did. Hence my problem.


Title: Re: Will NEM always live in NXT's shadow because it started as a NXT asset?
Post by: TruthBear on April 12, 2015, 09:53:32 AM
The truth of the matter is this...

Nobody with any common sense, integrity or decency wants to be involved with this ridiculous joke of an "egalitarian" cryptocurrency which is based on the premise of "All stakes are equal, but some stakes are more equal than others" and "if you cheat to get more stakes, you deserve them".

Plus, you have a 50% chance that anybody involved in NEM is in fact UtopianFuture and a 100% chance that the person believes it is ok to associate with liars, cheaters and thieves if they can make money.

The fact is that NEM was started out of pure greed and anyone buying into NEM will end up with a whole lot of nothing instead of a little bit of something.

Is this true? I guess my suspicions were right :( I will tell whole Chinese community about this


Title: Re: Will NEM always live in NXT's shadow because it started as a NXT asset?
Post by: nextgencoin on April 12, 2015, 04:31:52 PM
NEM will always be in NAS's shadow. ;D
I don't think so. NEM has good beginning, which has new featurers and enhanced security. The dev teams is working hard, dedicated and innovative. If you believe it, why not buy it right now?


So lets just get what your saying straight. You are saying the uptake and use of a coin is based on how dedicated and hardworking the development team is. I see....

Got any evidence that isn't just words strung together for the hell of it?


Title: Re: Will NEM always live in NXT's shadow because it started as a NXT asset?
Post by: Zer0Sum on April 12, 2015, 06:20:19 PM
It's a good question ... It will ultimately come down to how NEM is taken to market over the next 6-12 months.

NXT is not standing still... and every NXT fork has lagged badly so far.

While NEM has lost 2/3 of it's value in one month despite a successful launch...
NXT is rolling out the long awaited Ver 1.5 with voting system, phasing, plug-ins...
And *** pruneable ***  pay-as-you-go storage with Arbitrary Messages expanded to 40K bytes...
So now an anon web site or "hidden service" can be hosted on the NXT blockchain in a 100% decentralized manner.

This is the turning point for NXT as it moves out of the Crypto Ghetto...
And starts competing directly with klunky Tor Project and legendary vaporware like MAID.

https://nxtforum.org/nrs-releases/nrs-v1-5-0e/


Title: Re: Will NEM always live in NXT's shadow because it started as a NXT asset?
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on April 13, 2015, 09:20:01 AM
Oh give me a FUCKIN' BREAK...  how in the FUCK does one even attempt to say something like this^^^ after all the Nxt Circle Jerk Parades?!?!?  ???

I knew you would miss me.  :D


Title: Re: Will NEM always live in NXT's shadow because it started as a NXT asset?
Post by: EMIF on April 13, 2015, 09:44:57 AM
I really dont belive NEM live in NXT's shadow .

Afaik , It didnt start as a NXT asset. NXT asset was used for trading before NEM shares were not available for redeeming. Besides, NEM has a different code than NXT. So it is not a clone, but future of of NEM strongly depends on developers' performance. IMHO, NEM's price is really cheap nowadays , after some development news , it can easily increase. 


Title: Re: Will NEM always live in NXT's shadow because it started as a NXT asset?
Post by: l8orre on April 13, 2015, 10:27:54 AM
The fact that much of the NEM community continue to define NEM in terms of how it's doing in relation to NXT is an issue.
I sometimes detect a little bit of cargo cultism around NEM......

Oh give me a FUCKIN' BREAK...  how in the FUCK does one even attempt to say something like this^^^ after all the Nxt Circle Jerk Parades?!?!?  ???


poor bipolar twat. I remember you wailing, crying and spitting insult when QORA went down.

so now your wisdom presages 120Sats for NEM.

Well, good luck with that- and let's see you have another meltdown if it does not happen!

They shoveled 43.3 BTC into getting this below 64 sat,...

So true...  I was observing the Poloniex orderbook all afternoon yesterday. 

If no unforeseen circumstances arise...  we will see 120 sats very soon!   ;)


...I'm more concerned about price stabilization after the pump...


Title: Re: Will NEM always live in NXT's shadow because it started as a NXT asset?
Post by: l8orre on April 13, 2015, 11:02:38 AM
poor bipolar twat. I remember you wailing, crying and spitting insult when QORA went down.

WTF are you talking about?!?!?   :-\


so now your wisdom presages 120Sats for NEM.

Well, good luck with that- and let's see you have another meltdown if it does not happen!

Did you even read the post I was replying to in order to understand the context of my post?!?!?   :-\


How long were you waiting until you THOUGHT it was the right time to take your swing???...  ROFLMAO!   ;D

Too bad you're SO FUCKIN' RETARDED that you can't even get your facts straight and/or comprehend the context of my posts!!!   :-*


yeah- maybe I didn't pay proper attention. never mind- it is of minor relevance anyway.


Title: Re: Will NEM always live in NXT's shadow because it started as a NXT asset?
Post by: choochimil on April 13, 2015, 11:06:27 AM
NEM never was in NXT shadow. Shame the price has dropped steadily since launch, but not really a surprise, people want something to happen every day or they lose focus. I haven't even got my stake yet, still waiting for that next stage of redemption.


Title: Re: Will NEM always live in NXT's shadow because it started as a NXT asset?
Post by: shane on April 13, 2015, 06:10:32 PM
No, It doesnt currently in and wont live in NXT's shadow.

I believe NXT was the biggest innovation after BTC. But NEM is another step from NXT. From NXT starting, there werent any noticable interesting projects but NEM. I believe at some point NXT and NEM will used to live together not competitively.


Title: Re: Will NEM always live in NXT's shadow because it started as a NXT asset?
Post by: Miracal on April 14, 2015, 06:48:13 AM
I really dont belive NEM live in NXT's shadow .

Afaik , It didnt start as a NXT asset. NXT asset was used for trading before NEM shares were not available for redeeming. Besides, NEM has a different code than NXT. So it is not a clone, but future of of NEM strongly depends on developers' performance. IMHO, NEM's price is really cheap nowadays , after some development news , it can easily increase. 
The price is down a lot. It seems some ppl lose a bit confidence to it now and dump it now. Its fate is totally decided by the development team. It really needs some exciting new announcement to recover pps' confidence to it.     


Title: Re: Will NEM always live in NXT's shadow because it started as a NXT asset?
Post by: tribefan89 on April 14, 2015, 11:50:46 PM
I really dont belive NEM live in NXT's shadow .

Afaik , It didnt start as a NXT asset. NXT asset was used for trading before NEM shares were not available for redeeming. Besides, NEM has a different code than NXT. So it is not a clone, but future of of NEM strongly depends on developers' performance. IMHO, NEM's price is really cheap nowadays , after some development news , it can easily increase. 
The price is down a lot. It seems some ppl lose a bit confidence to it now and dump it now. Its fate is totally decided by the development team. It really needs some exciting new announcement to recover pps' confidence to it.     

This is what I'm hoping for. I have some NXT and really hoping for some big announcement to get the interest back.


Title: Re: Will NEM always live in NXT's shadow because it started as a NXT asset?
Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on April 15, 2015, 05:51:44 AM
I really dont belive NEM live in NXT's shadow .

Afaik , It didnt start as a NXT asset. NXT asset was used for trading before NEM shares were not available for redeeming. Besides, NEM has a different code than NXT. So it is not a clone, but future of of NEM strongly depends on developers' performance. IMHO, NEM's price is really cheap nowadays , after some development news , it can easily increase. 
The price is down a lot. It seems some ppl lose a bit confidence to it now and dump it now. Its fate is totally decided by the development team. It really needs some exciting new announcement to recover pps' confidence to it.     

This is what I'm hoping for. I have some NXT and really hoping for some big announcement to get the interest back.

The NXT increase in price will be from organic growth on the NXT platform.  The network substructure is being developed and the projects are underway.  Imo, it's just a matter of time.


Title: Re: Will NEM always live in NXT's shadow because it started as a NXT asset?
Post by: MadCow on April 15, 2015, 07:07:45 AM
What proportion of crypto users who actually try using the NXT wallet end up being impressed? Just a matter of time for NXT.

NEM needs something else to stand out, and might develop that in time.