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Title: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: tokeweed on April 21, 2015, 11:36:13 AM
Here's a result of a poll on Slashdot.

https://i.imgur.com/kc7gPBN.jpg

http://m.slashdot.org/poll/2879


Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: Troonetpt on April 21, 2015, 12:47:37 PM
Here's a result of a poll on Slashdot.

http://m.slashdot.org/poll/2879
Sure, there are still a lot of people don't trust bitcoin.


Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: Daniel91 on April 21, 2015, 12:51:03 PM
I'm afraid that this facts are correct.
In my country, probably most people will give last answer: What's bitcoin.
For average people bitcoin is very risky, virtual thing, without future, if they even know something about BTC.
If will be great if paypal or some other ''big name'' accept bitcoin but it seems we are very fare from it.


Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: neurotypical on April 21, 2015, 01:36:40 PM
Most people = the 1% that knows what Bitcoin is (and the 0.00001% that voted on that geek ass website).


Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: tokeweed on April 21, 2015, 02:00:50 PM
Most people = the 1% that knows what Bitcoin is (and the 0.00001% that voted on that geek ass website).

That's what I'm asking about.  These "geeks" are also well informed.  They spend most of their time online doing some reading and research, and yet they think little of Bitcoin like they are informed but not impressed.



Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: turvarya on April 21, 2015, 02:03:55 PM
The NSA-answer is just the best answer, if you have no idea, what the price will be.
I most probably would also have chosen it.


Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: Bralex on April 21, 2015, 02:52:43 PM
The NSA-answer is just the best answer, if you have no idea, what the price will be.
I most probably would also have chosen it.

To be fair it is a terrible poll and few hundred are probably troll votes NSA honey pot  ;D Thought this had been buried but obviously not. Like the post above says there is not really anything anyone can vote unless they have an idea of the price.

It just shows how few people have used bitcoin, if people used it then they wouldn't think it would be worth less in value in a year since it is so damn useful.

It is not about those few votes who think it will be worth less in future, it is about the nsa answer which is not how most think about bitcoin just some trolls and some people who have little else to vote for.


Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: Snail2 on April 21, 2015, 03:47:03 PM
For me it's still a profitable honeypot so I'm happy to go even deeper :).


Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: RodeoX on April 21, 2015, 05:29:41 PM
People who want to believe in some grand conspiracy will find it in everything they see. Every world event, every system they don't understand, every one they don't know. Let them think what they will. Our edge is knowledge and while they daydream we grow.


Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: umair01 on April 21, 2015, 05:33:58 PM
I think the majority of voters might be people who have no knowledge of what Bitcoin is, nowadays many of the people reading mainstream newspapers and participating in such votings have no first hand experience of what bitcoin is?


Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: Omikifuse on April 21, 2015, 09:57:38 PM
My guess is they are just trolling.

I would pick that option too just because I smiled when I saw the option


Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: ticoti on April 21, 2015, 11:52:58 PM
I don't think so,People may perceive it something made for crime, but I don't think people think it is a nsa honeypot,because it doesn't make much sense if you think it deep


Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: Kprawn on April 22, 2015, 06:35:08 AM
The NSA would be stupid to create a HoneyPot in a Open source environment.  ;D They already have HUGE amounts of information through backdoors in SSL and RSA encryption.

Every email, SMS, phone call you make are being recorded and all your activity on forums and Social media are scrutinized by them.

They are acctually looking at ways to do this, without having to divulge in courts, how they did it... There are groups of people, who are challenging this in courts.

A Open source program is not a way to do it... they would most likely still work with Hacker Team to create more proprietary methods to do this.

This is public knowledge... {Youtube}  ;)


Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: eid on April 22, 2015, 06:45:18 AM
The 30% are obviously NSA stooges  8)


Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: Lethn on April 22, 2015, 07:15:29 AM
They're utterly, utterly stupid, the fact is the people haven't even glanced at Bitcoin properly and are just making up their own bullshit, we all know it's open source and anyone can look into the code so this assertion makes absolutely no sense. Before I used to feel like we should argue with these assholes but now they're just annoying because they're like others who simply refuse to take a proper look at it and investigate how it works so they just make it up.

The 11% who asked "What is Bitcoin?" are far more honest with themselves and are the people we should be spending time on.


Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: Light on April 22, 2015, 07:45:33 AM
They're utterly, utterly stupid, the fact is the people haven't even glanced at Bitcoin properly and are just making up their own bullshit, we all know it's open source and anyone can look into the code so this assertion makes absolutely no sense. Before I used to feel like we should argue with these assholes but now they're just annoying because they're like others who simply refuse to take a proper look at it and investigate how it works so they just make it up.

While I agree with the assertion regarding Bitcoin's open source nature, theoretically the original creation of Bitcoin could have been a move to find all of the people with anti-government sentiment/criminal activity (as it seems to be a logical candidate for criminal payment) by another government entity. This is really kind of tin foil hat level (so I don't really believe it), but we can't know for sure if Bitcoin and its movement and transactions aren't being monitored on a regular basis.


Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: Lethn on April 22, 2015, 07:53:38 AM
Oh they most certainly are going to monitor the stuff that interests them, that's what intelligent agencies do, but to think that they can actually control an open source technology is a new level of stupidity for me, people like this really piss me off because they seem to take pride in being this moronic.

To me it's the equivalent of saying "I have a stupid an uninformed opinion and you're not allowed to argue with it because it's MY opinion and I'm going to run around screaming it at everybody as loud as possible even if I've completeley made everything up" they're spreading this bullshit to people who don't know any better and Mike Maloney got taken in by it a bit as well but luckily he's intelligent so he went off and did his own research on Bitcoin.

My favourite one is that douchebag who made a video on youtube just to say I don't know anything about Bitcoin and like any good American I don't trust what I don't understand.


Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: Snorek on April 22, 2015, 09:50:21 AM
In general people are just not familiar with history of bitcoin, protocols, algorithms and other technical stuff bitcoin is based on. Secret of Satoshi origin and identity is just too enticing for people to pass on, of course they will be creating theories that he is lead scientist in NSA team or something like that. They may be right, but for general purposes spreading news like that is harmful for btc imo.


Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: Raeg on April 22, 2015, 10:00:08 AM
I'm sure the poll was trolled or was just voted on by paranoid idiots. I think it's safe to say most people will not believe it to be an NSA invention but I'm sure many people see it as a currency for criminals unfortunately (which we know is not the case).


Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: ensurance982 on April 22, 2015, 10:09:04 AM
That most definitely is just a "funny" and "edgy" response of the people. I mean it would be really really quite some revelation if it really was started by the NSA... Just imagine! Nah, I don't see any solid reason why this should be true, either - they wouldn't benefit from that a lot (if at all)!


Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: Q7 on April 22, 2015, 11:44:30 AM
I have serious doubt about the integrity based the outcome of the pool conducted. First it never show the background of the people selected for the pool nor does it give any other further information. From what I see here from the results, it goes to show how misinformed people generally are or should I say the trust level that people have in bitcoin is at a low level. It's like they see it as a trap. But more interesting is that, is there a possibility that the number of those people who claim to have zero knowledge of bitcoin are also being categorized into the same group of people who says that they can't trust the network. So it's like telling two different sides of the story although you are referring to the same scenario and condition.


Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: CBG81 on April 22, 2015, 11:46:56 AM
Here's a result of a poll on Slashdot.


http://m.slashdot.org/poll/2879

not really surprised by results...only shows that there is no unique view on the future of bitcoin. which again is not surprising given the volatility of this currency.


Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: pawel7777 on April 22, 2015, 12:31:01 PM
I have serious doubt about the integrity based the outcome of the pool conducted. First it never show the background of the people selected for the pool nor does it give any other further information. From what I see here from the results, it goes to show how misinformed people generally are or should I say the trust level that people have in bitcoin is at a low level. It's like they see it as a trap. But more interesting is that, is there a possibility that the number of those people who claim to have zero knowledge of bitcoin are also being categorized into the same group of people who says that they can't trust the network. So it's like telling two different sides of the story although you are referring to the same scenario and condition.

This isn't any serious research with carefully selected 'representative group'. This is just another internet poll open to everyone. I don't think it even prevents multiple voting. And you should view it as such.

Plus, one non-standard answer placed among standard, boring answers will always get a lot of votes. If they put "Potato" instead of "Be revealed as a giant NSA honeypot" - the result would be similar.


Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: ensurance982 on April 22, 2015, 02:25:56 PM
I have serious doubt about the integrity based the outcome of the pool conducted. First it never show the background of the people selected for the pool nor does it give any other further information. From what I see here from the results, it goes to show how misinformed people generally are or should I say the trust level that people have in bitcoin is at a low level. It's like they see it as a trap. But more interesting is that, is there a possibility that the number of those people who claim to have zero knowledge of bitcoin are also being categorized into the same group of people who says that they can't trust the network. So it's like telling two different sides of the story although you are referring to the same scenario and condition.

This isn't any serious research with carefully selected 'representative group'. This is just another internet poll open to everyone. I don't think it even prevents multiple voting. And you should view it as such.

Plus, one non-standard answer placed among standard, boring answers will always get a lot of votes. If they put "Potato" instead of "Be revealed as a giant NSA honeypot" - the result would be similar.

Yep... That's basically it. You could have even gone as far as to include even more ridiculous answers than the NSA claim. It's stories like these that make Bitcoin critics ("Buttcoiners") rejoice...


Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: RodeoX on April 22, 2015, 03:15:03 PM
There is also the logic argument. Why? What kind of honeypot gives out honey?


Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: galbros on April 25, 2015, 12:43:10 AM
Maybe a DEA honeypot but those people have enough problems of their own.  NSA is focused on code breaking, so while they might one day break bitcoin I don't see them using it to track us and all out activities down.


Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: visual111 on April 25, 2015, 02:49:23 AM
A honeypot for what exactly?


Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: Hippie Tech on April 25, 2015, 03:58:04 AM
Has anyone noticed how "BTC" looks somewhat similar to CIA when the letters are reversed ? lol

CTB = CIA :o


Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: uininPeter on April 25, 2015, 05:40:47 PM
Most people get their information from the media, and the largest bitcoin headlines consist of seizures and illegal activities, undoubtedly this will reach some people and this will be what they think.


Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: imamanandyou on April 25, 2015, 08:59:07 PM
Has anyone noticed how "BTC" looks somewhat similar to CIA when the letters are reversed ? lol

CTB = CIA :o

That is ridiculous man, I couldnt have been more amazed by your discovery. Maybe btc was created by the cia in order to control the people interested in cryptocurrency while they push fiat and leave us all out in the streets screaming "bitcoin" and making us seem like lunatics! It all makes sense!


Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: Hippie Tech on April 25, 2015, 09:37:23 PM
Has anyone noticed how "BTC" looks somewhat similar to CIA when the letters are reversed ? lol

CTB = CIA :o

That is ridiculous man, I couldnt have been more amazed by your discovery. Maybe btc was created by the cia in order to control the people interested in cryptocurrency while they push fiat and leave us all out in the streets screaming "bitcoin" and making us seem like lunatics! It all makes sense!


"Gavin will visit the CIA" --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6652.0

Satoshi vanished weeks before this meeting took place. The asic pre-order hype, scams and the massive gpu sell off, followed not long after.

"Gavin will visit the Council on Foreign Relations" --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412846.0

And here is where I'm guessing they decided on how to finish centralizing the living shit out of BTC/ cryptos.





Title: Re: Is this how most people percieve Bitcoin? An NSA honeypot??
Post by: Mr. Burns on April 26, 2015, 12:30:14 AM
Well if God doesn't know I'm using drugs by now, He should.