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Director Andrew Wagner has been running a series of reviews of cryptocurrency, blockchain, and decentralization-based video games. It's called Gaming on the Blockchain; the first review is of Moonga, which is putting its online trading cards on the Bitcoin blockchain as smart property. The long-term goal is to provide comprehensive coverage of this nascent industry, which includes all of the following installments:

• Moonga Review (http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/04/26/blockchain-gaming-moonga/)
• Munne Project Review (http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/06/17/blockchain-gaming-munne-project/)
• Spells of Genesis Preview (http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/07/31/blockchain-gaming-sog-preview/)
• The Huntercoin Saga (http://www.newsbtc.com/2016/02/02/blockchain-gaming-huntercoin/)

UPDATE: all articles are now listed at www.blockchaingaming.com (http://www.blockchaingaming.com), in addition to others and video/audio clips. If someone asks you for a quick link to information to learn about decentralized video games, give 'em that.

oh this is something interesting, i always saw bitcoin and gaming do good together, talking about skill games only(i don't like gambling), i want to be rewarded in bitcoin, while playing those game

imagines if your score is converted in bitcoin, 1:1 ratio with satoshi, would be fabulous

the article talk mostly about a in-game trding using bitcoin, i think it could work well, and better than fiat

Only real games (not gambling) will be covered in Gaming on the Blockchain. :) Once in-game assets are on the blockchain, they will be readily convertible to Bitcoin. Spells of Genesis (an upcoming game to be reviewed) will do something like that with BitCrystals.

for now only trading game will work with this system, they don't mentions games like fps or rts or rpg, just card games

They going to use Counterparty protocol - http://counterparty.io/ and it's currency is called, Bitcrystals { http://www.spellsofgenesis.com/users/faq } Only 100,000,000 BitCrystal will be produced of which 70,000,000 (70%) will be available for purchase in the token sale.

It's a start, but I would have preferred them using only Bitcoin, not some other weird derivative.

Also a pity that Apple would get such a huge share of their earnings. {About 30% of all game packs sold}
 

Hi Everyone !

Yodark from SOG here.

Yes Google and Apple take 30% it's an important part but largely covered by the payment convenience and the large amount of user driven by these plateform. This is the reason many game publisher are going on mobile because they are generating large amount of revenue. In our case if we are not allowing people to buy with the store system
1. We won't be able to publish the game on AppStore and Google play.
2. We will cut out large amount of revenue from people who will not use another mean of payment. Ultimately it's less beneficial for us and bitcrystal owners.

As The Bitcoin Co-op mentioned players who own digital assets will use bitcoin in other to exchange their game assets. The reason we are using Counterparty and not making our own minable currency it's because we want to use bitcoin. Counterparty works on the top of bitcoin blockchain. If you have for example the "red dragon" as a digital asset in fact we are tagging some satoshi saying this satoshi represents "red dragon". Then you can use the bitcoin protocol to trade the red dragon among the players. In order to make a transaction with the counterparty asset you need to pay the miner fee in bitcoin.
This way it will be very simple for bitcoin owner to to acquire game assets and players will have to understand (or at least) use bitcoin to play trade in game. They are going to learn more about BTC.

For bitcrystal it's our asset for the crowdsale on counterparty. It's not a bitcoin competitor since it's also on bitcoin blockchain. It the required asset to get premium in game. If a player wants to use the AppStore or PlayStore we are going to burn their value that we buy back from bakers. But of course they will be on sale for BTC. Any bitcoin owner will be able to buy them for BTC and bypass the stores. This way it will be more advantageous to buy with bitcoin. Player will be then incentivised to understand bitcoin and to get some in order to get cheaper stuff.
Since bitcrystal asset are limited their value will reflect the games popularity. The more player will be willing to buy game asset the higher will be the value of bitcrystal and to lower will be the price (in bitcrystal but same in USD) of stuff.

This way, bakers and early fan are part of the project success and incentivised to talk about the game. Because the more player will play the more stuff they are going to get in game.

To summarise in few words. If spells of Genesis is a success the benefit will be

1. Project bakers will be rewarded
2. Bitcoin will be more accessible to mainstream users since user will be willing to have some to be able to trade
3. Bitcoin and counterparty trading activity will rise

Yes we are among the first one doing this. The long term vision is if SOG experiment is sucessfull to use our technology to create a platform that allows game devellopers to make their decentralised assets games



 

bitcrystals for free

Actually, this technology extends very easily to online role playing games. Think about it: is putting a trading card on the blockchain really different from putting the Sword of a Thousand Truths or what-have-you? It's technologically the same, and going to be done very soon.

FPS and RTS games without in-game assets are another question. New games like Huntercoin, however, are already moving to put entire games on the blockchain: it tallies your score, distributes prizes, and can even hold the entire game universe on-chain. Every in-game event that occurs can be a cryptocurrency transaction inserted into a blockchain.

I like this develop off bitcoin expand.
yes. since the user of mobile gaming apps increase, it is worthy of attention by bitcoin to get into the market.
and deserves to be in support.

Bitcoin is perfect for the simple android games that are very addicting like the flappy bird type, to give top scorers a nice reward. The problem is the bloat of the blockchain with too many micropayments.

As a gamer, i always interested with gaming project related with bitcoin
okay at the first we only see card game, who knows in the future we will see RPG or MMORPG using bitcoin as their main currency :)
That would be interesting for gamer and bitcoin addict
This problem can be solved with using bitcoin collector / micro wallet to collect temporary bitcoin obtained, and withdraw it when pass withdraw threshold :)

True, even tho it feels both safer and just "good" to receive your coins instantly and directly into your personal wallet, so you don't have to do that process every so often.
Of course this seems inconvenient with the current block size limit...

something along the line of huntercoin, would be great already it's strategic enough for me, but with bitcoin as a currency

you think that it will possible in the future to put a complex game like battlefield in the blockchain?

There are a few games for earning HYPER... you play the games, get points, trade the points in for HYPER. (1 game is for HYPER only, the other is HYPER, EMC2, MOON, FLAP, CCB, BRD, and GoldPieces)

http://makingmoneyhoney.com/games4cryptos.htm

I'd love to add more games that could be played for Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency too. I'm not into gambling, and I wouldn't really count gambling for cryptos gaming. Gaming implies skill mattering in how well you do and how much crypto you get. These games (in the above link) take skill to get more, faster, than someone else, and it's better than using HYPER faucets, by far.

As far as Huntercoin, I did look into it once, but needing to have some in your wallet to play stopped me once, and I looked into it a second time, thinking of getting some of an exchange, but noticed users complained about bots, and I didn't really look any farther than that.

ah yeah i know about hyper, i tryed to earn some of those coin by playing cs go, it was fun, but not so remunerative

for huntercoin you could just buy them if you want to play, they are really cheap right now

It would be trivially easy to place game rewards such as new weapons or medals on the blockchain as smart property, and record your kill/death ratio, total score, and other stats via ledger applications such as Factom. Placing the entire game on the blockchain is unnecessary, however, because first person shooters do not generally take place in a single and consistent online world. Hackers have very little incentive to target your 30-minute team match.

All MMO games, however, will be heavily reliant on blockchain technology. In persistent worlds like EVE Online or World of Warcraft, altering the environment has lasting consequences, and the current solution of a powerful central server has obvious flaws that we probably don't need to explain to users of BitcoinTalk.org. Blizzard and its competitors are already researching the issue, guaranteed.

I think that gaming and blockchain technology would build interesting and unique platforms and applications allowing financial freedom fro gamers.

Many games will probably be relied on the blockchain tech but the question is how are they going to use the blockhain technology ? Huge gaming companies could already be working on  blockchain alternatives.

yeah but too many people annoyed with that "dust"
it will make our transaction size bigger and need more fees for it
I think if that is small amount of bitcoin, user will use "micro wallet" method, but if we talk about big amount of bitcoin, we will use direct and instant withdrawal to our wallet :D

It is a delicate balance of getting enough to make it worth it and the hosts not paying too much out for too many people because the games are free to play. But as it is, the Dragon Knight & Hyper Wars are worth it, IMHO. If you're out there doing faucets anyway, because you get way more and can actually enjoy playing.

Also, HYPER stakes, so whatever you get can turn into more even if you do nothing for a while.

First Installment interesting:
Gaming on the blockchain does have interesting applications as in game virtual currency
There are other interesting approaches to it as the article mentioned with card transfers which is an extension of that idea.
It will be interesting to see how it grows.

Upon doing a quick search, the first result gave me this: http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/04/26/blockchain-gaming-moonga/

Card games often requires skills and strategies in order to "win" or at least prevail in the game. If similar skill-based games are present and rewards bitcoins as prize, the so-called "gamers" will try their skill and hand at it in order to get a taste of btc. Also, in-game purchases in different games (this is not a part of the OP) could also help bitcoins in gaining widespread adoption, seeing that many gamers are seeking for a way to buy their in-game upgrades without the hassle and fast transactions.

Blockchain bloat is really a trivial issue, here. You can set up an altcoin with a separate blockchain specifically for these in-game transactions, and people can conveniently convert to Bitcoin at any time. Use Factom to embed the account balances in the Bitcoin blockchain without significantly increasing its size. Everybody wins.

In-game purchases are also trivially easy to set up; EverdreamSoft, the company behind Moonga (the first game to be reviewed in the Gaming on the Blockchain series), will do that with BitCrystals in an upcoming game. I'll explain the details in that game's review  ;)

Gaming on the Blockchain is a great idea and it gives financial freedom to the gamer, I think.

Agreed.  It's why I've been looking into the gaming cyptocoins lately.

What about comic books as well?

you mean comic books on blockchain ?

book game would be a better option, if we are talking about game

i love those books, like lone wolf, the dark crusade ecc, they were playing with dices, it would be cool to have them in the blockchain or in a side chain

But the idea is to make Bitcoin price grow, so everything should run under Bitcoin and no some third party shitcoin. Bitcoin needs to solve its issues with blockchain bloat.

If there is too much games on blockchain dont you think it will be such a waste? Because there are so many games sites out there and can this games in blockchain compete to them? How will you attract people to play in blockchain I guess that is going to be hard enough

Online gambling is one of the biggest area where bitcoin is witnessing rapid growth. Keeping it at bay might not be a good idea altogether.

Yes..Think it would help grow the community.
Young kids would swap comic books for pennies like a library. Also adults,but I think gaining young peoples interest is fastest way to grow anything.

Ever seen this?

http://www.comicbookcoin.com/

The idea of gaming on the blockchain has been suggested several times throughout the board. The main problem yet is that the block time is still relatively high. To create games based on the blockchain you need block generation times of less than 10 seconds. 

That's only true if the game is played in real time, and its entirety is recorded on the blockchain. If we're just using the blockchain to record and transfer in-game assets, the block time is irrelevant.

This depends very much on the actual game being played.  If the game mechanics itself is turn-based, it may not matter at all.  In fact, it may be good to have sufficient time (e. g., one minute) to perform your move at each instant in time.

Furthermore, one could possibly even use something like "payment channels":  With the right design, it may be possible for a group of players (for instance, near to each other in the game world) to play in "real time" in a fight or something like that.  Settlement to the blockchain may only be needed when they disagree about the outcome of the fight or someone drops out.

If the block chain is only being used as a method of transferring in-game assets and purchases, then block time is probably fine. However, if the mechanics of the game per se is on par and follows the real-time block time, the block time would probably affect the game.

Sorry there haven't been any Gaming on the Blockchain articles, lately; the author has been very busy. However, we're having a Gaming on the Blockchain Meet Up (http://www.meetup.com/BitcoinCoop/events/222425625/) at the Decentral (http://decentral.network/) space in Vancouver, and you can watch the virtual Google Hangout here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/c6vdhtji70uil6picm5vtqmb0e8

We'll be beaming in Koji Higashi, who works at EverdreamSoft (http://www.everdreamsoft.com/), to talk about their upcoming game Spells of Genesis (http://www.spellsofgenesis.com/). They're also the company behind Moonga (http://www.moonga.com/en/landing.html), both of which are placing their cards on the blockchain as Counterparty assets. They'll be giving some away along with some BitCrystal tokens at our event! 8)

One of the questions should be .... "What kind of games, can be incorporated into the Blockchain" -- It cannot just be "Card games"

I know some games like FPS etc.. would not be suitable, but any turn based game, should work.

Another question might be the impact that these games might have on the Blockchain. {Bloating / Spam etc etc... }

Is there a platform, where the audience can post questions like this to the host or the panel? {Twitter?}

This is the host, actually. Any question you tweet with #BlockchainGaming @TheBitcoinCoop will be asked during the Q&A period on your behalf. I hope you'll tune in. :)

An FPS game could work, either by vastly increasing the block time and size, or limiting the recorded data to things like badges and K/D ratios. This likely would bloat the Bitcoin blockchain, unless done using an intermediary solution such as Factom.

its a good thinking.on the contrary, people might confuse the gaming with gambling.earning bitcoins with gaming is good but gambling for bitcoins is not a great deal. and would we lose the bitcoins if we lose th game , as in a bet ?

the gain must be set in relationship with the skill, in the sense that it should not be too easy to earn some coins, otherwise it would lead to easy dumping, so if you remove the lose of your coins in-game, then you need to make the earning harder

look at hyper, you need 200 kills for just 1 mere hyper, which has a value of 10k satoshi

But with that low of payout I dont think it worth to play this game and wasting your time and its hard to do, some people will prefer to do faucets with clicking captcha, its easier to do especially with using bot or imacros that make them easier and fast to earn bitcoin

Is it wasting your time, if you enjoy the game and were going to play a game anyway?

How is getting a faucet bot made or doing captchas, while dealing with popups/ads galore (worrying about getting a virus) easier to do than playing a game?

I think it people are interested in this, they should check out HYPER... since there are fun games to play that let you get Hyper (and a few other cryptos with the DragonKnight game) just for playing. Plus you can stake the HYPER you get for more. Unlike faucets, that require you to come back every few minutes or hours to get more. You can play a game, get some HYPER, hold it in your wallet, and not do anything for a few weeks, and have more than you started with. (IMHO, that's much better than faucets)

Dragon Knight 2, I got a few dollars worth of HYPER so far, while doing non-stop faucets in the same time period would probably get me 1 cent worth of Bitcoin.

Here's an article on some game-cryptocurrencies. There's a difference in gaming for crypto within the game directly (proof-of-play) or getting rewarded by staff indirectly, through tournaments etc.

Cryptocurrencies in Video Games: Preview Roundup - Published on November 21, 2014

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/18306/cryptocurrencies-in-video-games-preview-roundup/

I wrote that one, too!  ;D  Bitcoin Magazine no longer accepts editorial pieces (booooo!), so now we have Gaming on the Blockchain as a NewsBTC-based series.

Imagine the world that everyone playing a game to earn Bitcoin :o It would be a great time, I would support this project ;D

this is interesting, is there a demo site we could play with?

do we get some free coins to play with?

after reading all the pages, this is a good idea guys!

yeah but not simply games, we need something big, like blizzard/valve games or general good fps game

card games are an okish start but i want more complex game


i think you should get something to begin with, if they want to encourage adoption rate for this project

Altough if Im enjoying the game but the time is not worth to waste because the payout is only 10k sat but with faucet it will earn more than 10k sat and I think the time we used is faster than 200 kills. So we spend a little time but get much sat so I think its worth enough. I didnt say that the game is boring or hard to achieved but this is just about the payment

That's why I suggested Dragon Knight 2, because I literally got way more money (In Hyper) by playing a game than I would have gotten doing faucets the whole time (In Bitcoin). Plus Hyper stakes while you keep it in  your wallet. So it's growing even when I'm doing nothing.

Ok if you say that game can earn you some and more than any faucets. Where is the proof? And can you post some link to the game so everyone can see it and try to play it so that will make the game legit to be played

Sure, I can get you proof.

Here's the Hyper address I used with Dragon Knight2: HGxGCDz31mdwVHmoUQRLTrARqhyPGkznV4

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/hyper/address.dws?HGxGCDz31mdwVHmoUQRLTrARqhyPGkznV4.htm

I only used this address with Hyper Wars, another free to play web-based game, I only got 4 hyper from that so far, because I prefer the Dragon Knight game personally.

If you log into Dragon Knight, anyone can view my profile and see how much I've withdrawn, but you need to be logged in to see it, so here's a pic:
https://i.imgur.com/buVd3Ktl.jpg

Hyper's been fluctuating between 0.00011 and .000125 recently. But figuring it out at .00011 from those 2 games (check the Total Received for the address), I've gotten 0.008682685 Btc worth of HYPER, which is about $2.05. But I actually could have gotten more, I wanted to get some GoldPieces (as shown in the pic), that GP could have been 0.0022825 btc worth of HYPER, (because GoldPieces conversion rate was double what Hyper was, so I divided GP by half, and figured out the btc worth with .00011 rate, which equals about 50 cents)

In total that's about $2.55 worth of Hyper.

Note: If you look up the rates of Hyper and GoldPieces now to DragonPoints it was recently changed this week, to be less, due to CryptoDatabase making it easier to get DragonPoints, the higher level you are. I seem to be getting about double the points (which equals about the same amount of Hyper), but I haven't had that much time to play this week to check it out. The change wasn't to give less money, it was to make it more profitable in the future for those who work at it and get stronger and can kill stronger monsters.

But, like I said, that Hyper I do have, is sitting in my wallet, and will give me more by staking it. :D

And it's free to play.

For more information Dragon Knight 2 and Hyper wars, you can see here: http://makingmoneyhoney.com/games4cryptos.htm

in how much time you got that amount? because with cs go you can get easily 50 coins in 4 hours or so, i didn't tried recently, but with the old update it was even more easy

I've been a member on Dragon Knight 2 for 52 days. But, obviously, not playing the game, all day everyday, lol. I only play when I have free time, which isn't that often. The CS GO sounds great, but as far as I know, you have to pay to play it, since you need to buy the game first. I believe you need to have CS GO already bought, then log in for free on the Hyper server, and play. It's also not the kind of game I'm personally into, so I didn't look into it too much.

But playing games for crypto, is once again shown to be way more profitable than faucets. ;)

Motocoin was on track very well to become such a game that is fun to play and you can earn coins directly in the game.
Unfortunately there are bots that ruined the chance to win so you can only get very little even if you get some skill.
Perhaps it does better than faucets though since they pay so little. Trade price of MOTO is very low now too so maybe a good strategy could be to play and hold earnings longterm. Still a recommendation to try, it's free (in-wallet) and fun.

Has he heard of Motocoin?
The whole currency is run by a small moto simulation game. In this case, the blockchain is a game.
Too bad the dev left and the website expired.  :-[

Guys, it doesn't matter if playing a video game is less profitable than faucets or day trading. Consider the value of your free time and consumer satisfaction: you don't have to click through endless captchas or stay up all night on caffeine (or worse). You just get to play some video games.

Bitcoin Magazine is currently not accepting editorials/features, so the Cryptocurrencies in Video Games series I was writing there came to a halt. Gaming on the Blockchain continues on NewsBTC, however. Bitcoin Magazine may accept editorials again in the future.

The decentralized proof of play-style games like Motocoin and Huntercoin encountered problems in the form of bots and players with savant-like abilities. Huntercoin was overtaken by a player they called the Dominator--it's kind of like the WoW episode of South Park.  ;D

The Huntercoin developer is going to make a comeback, however, and he has way more ideas. He will be featured on Gaming on the Blockchain in the future, perhaps soon. We were given a demo  ;)

For now, we're still covering EverdreamSoft's Moonga/Spells of Genesis plans: no proof of play, but in-game assets will be on the blockchain via Counterparty. Hope you'll tune into the Hangout broadcast from Decentral Vancouver (https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/c6vdhtji70uil6picm5vtqmb0e8) with the CEO of EDS and Koji of Indie Square. The crowd is getting free smart property  8)

EverdreamSoft just launched a website for their in-game currency BitCrystals which will be used in Spells of Genesis and Moonga - http://www.bitcrystals.com (http://www.bitcrystals.com), check it out!

Looking forward to the Hangout tomorrow :)

Please elaborate.

The Bitcoin Coop is having the first Gaming on the Blockchain Meetup/Google Hangout tomorrow! See below for details.

what about a rts like age of empire that utilize bitcoin and altcoin as a resource system in-game, so instead of wood and gold you get bitcoin and altcoin, then your final income can be withdrawal only if you win the game

That's a nice idea, I would play the game if someone want to make it ;D

we can use bitcoin as a primary resourse and litecoin or monero maybe as a second, it would promote the rts genre more, seeing how it is dying and i hate this, as i love RTS to death

This sounds like fun, but what kind of turn-based game will wait for 30 minutes to confirm a transaction?
I would like to play chess against someone, where every move is recorded on the blockchain. You pay for every move you make and it goes to a central escrow service, that would pay the winner on completion of the match.
The only problem is speed and honesty. <You will have to stream the game, to proof that you used NO device to make the moves for you>   

Yes the best idea here would be to have offchain use of ressources. But with the ability to withdraw the ressources from your account or refill on your will

But to withdraw your bitcoin after win some games I dont think that is a good idea because that will be a wasting if you can't end it fast, you just wasting you time running circle to get items to make you stronger before you can end it. If that is the game plan may be we do some botting faucet, its easier to do than playing game

Only one screenshot but I'd say it looks pretty ncie and good , anyone know it's going to be available on what platforms exactly ? looking forward to play this . ;D

it's not only about earning, it's about putting together two things that you may like, playing video game and earning few cent or even more why not, if you are good enough, this is about skill, not gambling or anything else, only the best will earn more, it's not a field for everybody

and actually you need to end it slowly and accumulate many resources, so you can cash more, so in the end who will earn more is the one that will play wisely his resource

Hey guys, hope you're excited for the hangout today, sorry I haven't had time to write any more articles, yet. Here are some answers to questions, though:

Chess on the blockchain would be trivially easy to do. Hopefully, you choose a blockchain with a short block time, as waiting 10 minutes to see your opponent's move would be annoying.

An RTS holds interesting possibilities. Yes, you could construct altcoins to represent the in-game resources. I just question the value of doing so--it is unlikely that someone will try to hack the game's central server to steal your resources in the short timespan of one RTS match, nor are serious disputes about resources traded in-game likely to arise.

In terms of reward, my concern would be that you would drastically change the way people play the game. I tend to spend all spare RTS resources as I get them--players who hoard will be rewarded more coins than me upon victory. Also, what if I find a way to be victorious quickly or with low resource expenditure--surely such cleverness should be rewarded.

Regardless, I think it's an interesting idea that will lead to something once those problems are worked out.

Yeah I remember this game. It seemed really innovative back them. Unfortunately it seems like it meet the same destiny most coins meet: being abandoned by the main dev. It could be picked p by anyone else tho, it's the good thing about open source.

yes i love games,when it launched guys?

i said "only if you win th game" because

one could simply disconnect and earn money without doing too much, we want them to play the game extensively
one could simply camp the whole game then leave and get many btc/ltc, while he not really deserved it
also imposing that you must win the game for retrieving the coin, it's a way to not give too much to the player, and to promote only those with high skill

but yeah it's still not perfect, it needs some tweaks

But to get all equips that you need to fight monster and get some resouces its kind of taking some time and that will not be easy to do since the game is rts game and for cashing out until you really got some great resources, is that a legit? I ever saw game that they got about 50k++ bitcoin, if they want to cash out are the admin willing to pay all of it? This is like gambling to me

gambling? this has nothing to do with gambling ever, do you know what age of empire is or what rts are in general, they are based on pure skill, and they are more skill demanding than any other game

mi intention is to not base the resouces 1:1 with bitcoin of  course, you can do 1000:1, so for every 1 in-game resource you get 1000 satoshi or 100 satoshi, this should be tweaked based on how many resources one can have at the end of the match in a standard game

but bears in mind that you can't get as many resources as you think, because you need it to build your stuff(units, buildings, upgrades ecc...), but it could be the case, where two players just sit there and accumulate until they have plenty of resources then let one of them wins, the next time they let the other wins ecc, this could be a way of abusing this system

Thats why I said this is kind of gambling. You want to earn it fast by doing some abuse to the system or may be you just can play it a long way just to earn some. But that is not the problem here. The things that I can't agree is on the payment actually. Altough its 1000:1, at one day you really got nothing to do after you have completed all of your buildings and items and in that time your resources must be full loaded. And are they gonna to pay you the real price for the resources or that is just a camuflauge to scam us by asking us to play this kind of games?

there is nothing scammy about this system, it is just a way of rewarding skill, you don't need to pay anything, at best there coul be some stuff to buy not related exactly to the game, but this will probably suits more an fps game than a rts

that abuse i was talking about was just one of the little problems that could rise with my suggestion, nothing to worry about it you can always tweak it

you should really see some rts playing to understand, this is not simcity, it'ss not about sitting there and let your money grows then cash out, you must defeat your opponent in a multiplayer match, human vs human, take a look at starcraft 2 for example

the only difference is that the players would play with bitcoin in-game and not minerals or gas like in the case of Starcraft, then only who win can retrieve his resources as a reward

Ok now that will make sense, its like kind of faucet right? But it combine two things so we can earn it with convert it trough resources and still didnt know about the percentage. So how is this good compared to other faucets if you talk that game like starcraft? If you said that multiplayer match may be its not worth and like solo play it will be take some time altough the payout is good so which one is worth to do? Solo, multiplayer or faucets?

Faucets are boring. I'm going to be playing video games, anyways. Cryptocurrency rewards are just free money on top.

not to mention that he still not understanding, because we are not talking about faucets by any means, he really need to watch a game of Starcraft 2 before we can continue this conversation...

Hopefully one day I'll get the chance to see a game system being developed around bitcoin. Something that will actually reward you based on the hours or time spent playing the game or a concept whereby you can actually trade the in-game currency with real bitcoin. Similarly vice versa including buying game tokens with bitcoin or spending it to get credits. The possibilities are endless.

Yes I know that this is game but I just want a compare to faucet, is this worth to play as a game or we can just do this like faucets claim after you get some resources because I know that Starcraft game is not easy to play and need a lot of time to earn about the gas and everything that need to build your base to become strong

That's why this game need to be a fun game, so although we don't earn so much Bitcoin but we spent our time for fun :)

The point is we need to play this game to earn a lot so why should it be fun? Altough it is not fun since the payout is good I think everyone gonna play it like crazy. That is just wasting time not a fun time to play

again it's not about earning, it's about playing video game and earning something, it's all about fun... when you play gta5/random moba/battlefield 4, you do it for the earning? maybe you are not a gaming guy, because otherwise you would have already realized, what we are talking about

Gaming will be great on blockchain.
Can we earn bits through gaming??

There are lots of good ideas to implement in gaming and specially Android/iOS games, simple games that give out tons of small payments. Too bad microtransactions as we know them are a big problem right now for the blockchain to handle, it would be too much flood.

You mean we are playing this game on blockchain just for fun? Is that the real purpose of them make this game in blockchain? With a low earning there wont be much players there to play this game actually. Im gaming guy but usually I just play and later I earn a lot from what I lose mostly my time to play game so its worth it. My question is "Is this game worth enough to play with low earning?"

I'm currently playing Monster Hunter for no bitcoins whatsoever, and finding it fairly enjoyable. In fact, I paid money for this game.

Are you playing that game for free without doing some earning? Altough it is fairly enjoyable or may be you are having fun with it, if there is no earning why you going to play it? All this game is only for fun? Nothing else?

are you serious? your only reason to live is to earn money? the real aims of anyone should be the fun aspect of the life not earning money, unless you find that earning money, is fun too

i think you are not a gamer, and you never played any game even remotely

Yes Im really serious when its about earning because I just lose my bitcoin and now I want to try to earn by playing this game. If this game is just for fun and without good earning I dont think I can play it. May be some other time when I get back my own capital first. Im a gamer when its come to earning. I play game just to earn what I do lose in that game so the point is I want to play games that have a good earning and I can payback what I lose from time, money and everything that correspond to it

Andrew had some more free time, so Gaming on the Blockchain is resumed. This time, we take a look at a game built from the ground-up for cryptocurrency, rather than a retrofitted existing title.

The Munne Project had a good deal of publicity, having been promoted by a major crypto marketing firm (Michael Terpin's Transform PR). But can it live up to the hype? I wouldn't want anyone to play a game they won't enjoy, so I tested it out for you--here are the results: http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/06/17/blockchain-gaming-munne-project/

Awsome I didn't know this game

In retrospect, I've been informed that Munnecoin might be the creation of one "Richard Lanoszka," an accused scam artist. Let it be known that I never recommended buying MNE--this related game is free to play, and cannot harm you if approached that way. I did compliment the presentation and future possibilities, but I also stated:


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The test account I received did come with some MNE, but AFAIK the amount was not significant, and I spent it in-game.

If you're still looking for a way to make some money, you might like this news:

Of course Im still curious about this game and still didnt understand how to get money from it. Btw 0.5 bitcrystal is how much in bitcoin? so I will know is it worth to play or not. It is not that I not believe it but I just want to do some calculations here

I believe its tradeable on the Counterparty XCP platform. I have been folding FLDC for a while now, and 2 months ago you could also win some BitCrystals and some FD Cards along with folding coin FLDC.

If you want to know the current value of Bitcrystals you can visit the XCP platform.

I would like to see a way ot mine Bitcoins in Minecraft, like actual mining of the blockchain but throught ingame blocks, that would be pretty cool considering how many players are destroying blocks on a daily.

I'm wondering what would happen to the Minecraft world if everyone keep doing a mining.
Or maybe the overworld will being reset every day/week???

the eraning would be low, they will probably use the power of each computer that is playing that moment, to estract bitcoin, and unless 1T computer are hashing there i doubt you can earn a good reward

It's conceivable if you don't rely on proof-of-work. Instead, it's a form of proof-of-play: players mine the Minecraft world in search of a specific block, and the first person to find it is the miner of the "MinecraftCoin" block who decides what transactions are included. This has the same decentralizing effect as proof-of-work or proof-of-stake if we can eliminate bots. If more people are mining, the block they need to find in the game world becomes more rare, or less rare if people quit. Thus, an average block time would be achieved.

I'm still waiting on a test kit and other information to do a detailed review of Huntercoin, which I'm really excited for. If it does what I'm told it does, it will be a revolutionary advancement in the blockchain-based gaming sector.

For now, I've decided to do Gaming on the Blockchain's first preview, an in-depth look at the upcoming Spells of Genesis. I've been playing the test version as it evolves, and now you can, too, via a webpage linked to in my article! I honestly believe this might be a game changer (pun intended) for the entire video game industry in general... read here to learn why: http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/07/31/blockchain-gaming-sog-preview/

it would be nice if there would be a list of blockchain-based games on the first page. it is hard to real all post in oder to find the posted games.

Great idea. I'm going to do that now, thanks.

is there a stock simulator game? just like all the forex chart and candles and etc.. it would be awesome  ;D learning by playing  ;)

Soon (5 aug) the old SLCapex will be active again here onlinecapex.com (https://www.onlinecapex.com/)
But it's not blockchain or crypto. The companies are real, they mostly came out of second life.

Im guessing all of this will end up being processed throught off-chain services like the Lightning Network. Honestly last thing I want is the blockchain being flooded with millions of microtransactions per seconds from people gaming all over the world. The volume wouldn't be realistic to process in-blockchain in my opinion. The market for this is huge and the volume will be too much.

Possibly, but I'm not sure if the Lightning Network can handle smart property and contracts? Those are required for the games under development, such as the recently-reviewed Spells of Genesis.

Many games will have specific block time and block size requirements, and so will use their own blockchains. Huntercoin is a great example. What's probably going to happen is that they'll use Factom to hash their blockchains into the Bitcoin blockchain for security.

It's been a busy last few months, but I finally found the time to publish another installment (http://www.newsbtc.com/2016/02/02/blockchain-gaming-huntercoin/) of this series about crypto video games. This one is about Huntercoin, and is my favorite one, yet, for reasons made clear in the introduction:

soundinteresting,what genre is that game?i think they should have better promotions to make more popular this game,waiting for RPG game with bitcoin awards,it will be amazing and cool :D

Moonga is a pure trading card game, played similar to others like Magic the Gathering. Or did you mean Huntercoin? It's a pretty simple MMO... newly-minted huntercoins appear in the game world, and you must fight over them strategically using your insta-kill ability.

Everything is effectively turn based because the game can only go as fast as the block time, since all data is on the blockchain. Hopefully in the future we get very fast block times! They are talking about doing an MMORPG in the future, but the only rewards could be newly-minted coins.

That's a very interesting industry and could bump the game industry even further (and help to bump blockchain technology as well!)

it's seems that wargames is moving to bitcoin, i hope that blizzard and other giant will follow

i believe that bitcoin and gaming is a very good duo, that can farther increase the awareness of bitcoin, maybe even among female

Heard about that--it's great news! Hopefully, bigger players im MMO gaming will follow suit. We need more direct use of the blockchain, though, not just accepting coins for payment.

https://i.imgur.com/3RnGpiN.jpg

Haven't had time to update this series in a while--still developing the related website--but I noticed something: pretty much all the video game-related cryptocurrencies have skyrocketed. HUC has grown a lot, BCY dropped today but is up overall, and GAME has completely skyrocketed. HUC and GAME are literally dominating the charts on Poloniex right now, #1 and #2, respectively.

There are a lot of possible explanations for this. One of them is Pokemon Go, which is currently dominating the public consciousness as well as stock markets via Nintendo. Another is that the blockchain gaming industry has been doing well in general, and that successes in the various projects therein have been feeding off each other to build a general momentum. In general, I think people are realizing that video games will be one of the first sectors to be revolutionized by blockchain technology in practice, as their software-based nature precludes the necessity of real-world enforcement.

I don't have any idea that blockchain has a game, well if that is true and already implementing I am gladly enjoy to play there too.
Just teach how? I can't imagine playing games while earnings bitcoins that's really awesome actually. ;)

Well, the Bitcoin blockchain doesn't have a game, yet. Although soon, Spells of Genesis will be out, which will have trading cards for playing on the Bitcoin blockchain via Counterparty. If you Google it, I think you'll find a demo, but you can't earn any bitcoins by playing.

GameCredits is developing quickly it looks like... last I heard, you could play TurboCharged, and they had a contest with a prize of GAME (their token). I dunno when the next one is. There's also GamerholicCoin, which has game tournaments for their GHC tokens. They can also be used to play the Grabbit agme.

Huntercoin is a great one you can earn HUC coins by playing. It uses human mining... new coins are dropped in the game world for players to fight over, and the whole MMO is on the Huntercoin blockchain with no central server. You can play right now on MithrilMan's client (http://www.mithrilman.com/Huntercoin) or wait a couple weeks for the upgraded version with blockchain pruning.

All of that is going out from the purpose of blockchain is made and I don't think so blockchain will have games. the blockchain is having their purpose. and that's will never happen with blockchain.

The blockchain gaming industry keeps exploding! Just check out BitCrystals on Poloniex in anticipation of the Spells of Genesis release this month:


Others like HUC and GAME are doing great, as well, and I'm pretty happy I rolled with this concept. If you had bought any of the top 3 gaming cryptocoins a year ago, you would have at minimum doubled your money.

Now there are lots of articles about decentralized video games out there, and even other critical reviewers, so I decided to make a website for it. Check out www.blockchaingaming.com (http://www.blockchaingaming.com)! I'm putting all my articles in the OP there, as well as other articles and videos. I'm gonna try to keep up with my own series of previews/reviews, as well.

Unfortunately, I haven't designed a logo for Blockchain Gaming, yet, so the website shows up on social media as plain text, for now. For that and other reasons, I'm curious if anybody wants to join me on this project. I have not yet decided if I want to go non or for-profit. Theoretically it could have ads like IGN, Game Informer, GameSpot, etc.

I'm gonna update the OP with a link to the website. I might have to make a new thread or move this one, soon, especially if the website becomes a commercial project.

Oh god, BCY is like a big wave in poloniex. but just trying for visiting your site with hoping i will find a good information from there. thanks before.

I've been doing a lot of working on building the blockchain gaming community, website and social media channels (links below). You can see from the above that it now has a logo. No potential business partners (web advertisers, maybe?) have arisen, so I'm treating it like a fun non-profit thing to promote blockchain based video games. I still need partner writers to help write about games, though, so I'll make a new thread in Project Development soon, anyways.

Website: www.blockchaingaming.com
Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/blockchaingaming/
Google Plus: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/111369314843804954218
Twitter: https://twitter.com/BlockchainGames

There's also been a lot of news in the blockchain gaming industry. Some highlights:

• GameCredits has been integrated with Fragoria--an MMORPG with 8 million players--for in-game payments, as detailed in this article (http://bitcoinist.com/gamecredits-datcroft-gaming/).
• Force of Will, the trading card game, is going to use Project ORB (Spells of Genesis' platform) to place their cards on the Bitcoin blockchain. They held a crowdsale (http://www.newsbtc.com/2016/11/15/force-will-token-sale-commences-november-28/) starting last month.
• Spells of Genesis (the non-beta version) is finally coming out, but Canada and Switzerland get first dibs (https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/spells-of-genesis-soft-launch-pairs-enhanced-gameplay-with-advantages-of-blockchain-tech-1481321040).
• Some price predictions. (https://www.facebook.com/groups/blockchaingaming/permalink/592482880954762/) Still waiting to find out if they're true or false, but there's definitely significant movement going on. Hard to sleep.

This is looking like a considerably more interesting organization, and I'm probably going to start following it a bit more as more things get implemented and added.

It has a nice looking website, which is nice, and I'm goi g back and forth through it and seeing what's stored here and there. So far it looks like there's a lot of room for growth, yet there's a lot in their so far.

I'm more interested in Bitland and Bitnation, but I'll look more into Blockchain gaming when I have time.

Keep it up!

Gaming on the blockchain is one of the best thing that will promote bitcoins. I believe that many will be interested in bitcoins and of course after gaming your assets can be converted to bitcoin which will bring about games not as entertainment but as a source of income. But my question is, how much bitcoin will we earn in the game. If its big then I am going to enjoy the games and enjoy my bitcoins.

Thanks, it's definitely a growing industry! We'll definitely be adding more stuff, soon.


Yeah, it's a great way to promote Bitcoin. Games like Spells of Genesis, Force of Will and SaruTobi (http://www.mandelduck.com/sarutobi/) have game assets directly on the Bitcoin blockchain, and you can earn Bitcoin with SaruTobi and Takara among many other emerging games. Others like GameCredits and Huntercoin promote blockchain technology in general and can still be converted to Bitcoin easily on exchanges or via other payment gateways.

Another one, Huntercoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=435170.0), features "human mining," so it's a good way to earn coins. The whole MMO game is on the blockchain, though, so it cannot be moved to Bitcoin because Bitcoin lacks necessary features for fully-decentralized online gaming. It just got a fancy new client, and is about to hardfork to upgrade the gameplay--NewsBTC article coming soon

Well bitcoin and gaming are the best combination , there is actually a couple of sites that reward you satoshis for competing in some of you favorite games like cs go , league of legends , dota 2 , hearthstone , they hod tournaments and whoever gets first place gets rewarded but the problem is the reward is too small compared to the amount of time you spend even if you get first place so i hope this block chain gaming would bring us much options compared to the others.

Some interesting news... I had posted some price predictions, suggested selling GameCredits around .00033 BTC, figured it would fall below at least .00027. Already fell below .00026! Massive buy wall below, though, so I started buying them back at a profit, already.

At the same time, though, that Beyond the Void game just got their Nexium coins on Poloniex. Price has been falling--maybe due to people cashing out after the crowdsale--so I'm increasingly tempted to get some. It's hard to be a poor gamer.