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Title: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 12:18:52 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote




Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: favdesu on April 27, 2015, 12:29:23 PM
missing de-list XPY + kill PC option. doubt this poll will work, as there will be many paid shills flowing in.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: DiCE1904 on April 27, 2015, 12:31:30 PM
de-list XPY + kill PC


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: ladrx on April 27, 2015, 12:31:38 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote


"No formal relationship" - You mean aside from the fact that Cryptsy CTO was apparently BFF's with Josh Garza and talked about "cupping his balls" all the time?


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 12:31:52 PM
missing de-list XPY + kill PC option. doubt this poll will work, as there will be many paid shills flowing in.

Thats why I left the other option available.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 12:33:06 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote


"No formal relationship" - You mean aside from the fact that Cryptsy CTO was apparently BFF's with Josh Garza and talked about "cupping his balls" all the time?

Ill have to look but I do not believe Marshall was the CTO at that time he has recently joined the company. Bryant was our CTO when we added XPY.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: ladrx on April 27, 2015, 12:36:25 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote


"No formal relationship" - You mean aside from the fact that Cryptsy CTO was apparently BFF's with Josh Garza and talked about "cupping his balls" all the time?

Ill have to look but I do not believe Marshall was the CTO at that time he has recently joined the company. Bryant was our CTO when we added XPY.

So it is not at all concerning to you that Marshall Long has a pre-existing close relationship with a known scammer/tax evader/money launderer???


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: GIFOS on April 27, 2015, 12:36:56 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote


"No formal relationship" - You mean aside from the fact that Cryptsy CTO was apparently BFF's with Josh Garza and talked about "cupping his balls" all the time?

LMAO!!!


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 12:42:59 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote


"No formal relationship" - You mean aside from the fact that Cryptsy CTO was apparently BFF's with Josh Garza and talked about "cupping his balls" all the time?

Ill have to look but I do not believe Marshall was the CTO at that time he has recently joined the company. Bryant was our CTO when we added XPY.

So it is not at all concerning to you that Marshall Long has a pre-existing close relationship with a known scammer/tax evader/money launderer???

Not really my lane as far as hiring though the "close" relationship aspect does not show collusion. Many in this community, and this forum spoke with MagicalTux (Knaples) only to later learn he was not a good person. If we knew at the time that XPY would turn into such a catastrophe we would not have carried it. At this point however the harm would be to the folks that he fleeced not the suspect himself. So who do you want punished?


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: ladrx on April 27, 2015, 12:47:35 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote


"No formal relationship" - You mean aside from the fact that Cryptsy CTO was apparently BFF's with Josh Garza and talked about "cupping his balls" all the time?

Ill have to look but I do not believe Marshall was the CTO at that time he has recently joined the company. Bryant was our CTO when we added XPY.

So it is not at all concerning to you that Marshall Long has a pre-existing close relationship with a known scammer/tax evader/money launderer???

Not really my lane as far as hiring though the "close" relationship aspect does not show collusion. Many in this community, and this forum spoke with MagicalTux (Knaples) only to later learn he was not a good person. If we knew at the time that XPY would turn into such a catastrophe we would not have carried it. At this point however the harm would be to the folks that he fleeced not the suspect himself. So who do you want punished?


Well, there's an easy way to help mitigate the damages that Cryptsy has played an integral part in: DELIST THE FUCKING COIN. If you do not do this, you might as well paint a big red fucking target on Cryptsy for all the alphabet agencies to fixate on, and as far as I'm concerned you will be complicit in any future criminal acts that Josh Garza commits (ignoring for the moment that Cryptsy has apparently aided and abetted money laundering for Josh's operation for quite some time). Why is this even a discussion for you? Can you not see how bad this makes your company look???


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Franz_Huber on April 27, 2015, 12:49:48 PM
So who do you want punished?

I don't want Cryptsy "punished", I want Cryptsy to stop trading XPY, which is a 97% premined scamcoin.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Franz_Huber on April 27, 2015, 12:50:57 PM

Well, there's an easy way to help mitigate the damages that Cryptsy has played an integral part in: DELIST THE FUCKING COIN. If you do not do this, you might as well paint a big red fucking target on Cryptsy for all the alphabet agencies to fixate on, and as far as I'm concerned you will be complicit in any future criminal acts that Josh Garza commits (ignoring for the moment that Cryptsy has apparently aided and abetted money laundering for Josh's operation for quite some time). Why is this even a discussion for you? Can you not see how bad this makes your company look???

+1


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 12:52:21 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote


"No formal relationship" - You mean aside from the fact that Cryptsy CTO was apparently BFF's with Josh Garza and talked about "cupping his balls" all the time?

Ill have to look but I do not believe Marshall was the CTO at that time he has recently joined the company. Bryant was our CTO when we added XPY.

So it is not at all concerning to you that Marshall Long has a pre-existing close relationship with a known scammer/tax evader/money launderer???

Not really my lane as far as hiring though the "close" relationship aspect does not show collusion. Many in this community, and this forum spoke with MagicalTux (Knaples) only to later learn he was not a good person. If we knew at the time that XPY would turn into such a catastrophe we would not have carried it. At this point however the harm would be to the folks that he fleeced not the suspect himself. So who do you want punished?


Well, there's an easy way to help mitigate the damages that Cryptsy has played an integral part in: DELIST THE FUCKING COIN. If you do not do this, you might as well paint a big red fucking target on Cryptsy for all the alphabet agencies to fixate on, and as far as I'm concerned you will be complicit in any future criminal acts that Josh Garza commits (ignoring for the moment that Cryptsy has apparently aided and abetted money laundering for Josh's operation for quite some time). Why is this even a discussion for you? Can you not see how bad this makes your company look???

Again de-listing the coin only harms the current stakeholders not the individual you want to hurt. It is also listed at other exchanges. As far as the complicit I have already stated we took the appropriate and only legal action we are allowed to take in regards to that situation.

On another note: I have not spoken to the boss in regards to de-listing if it wins the poll we will have a serious discussion on that matter.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: ladrx on April 27, 2015, 12:59:53 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote


"No formal relationship" - You mean aside from the fact that Cryptsy CTO was apparently BFF's with Josh Garza and talked about "cupping his balls" all the time?

Ill have to look but I do not believe Marshall was the CTO at that time he has recently joined the company. Bryant was our CTO when we added XPY.

So it is not at all concerning to you that Marshall Long has a pre-existing close relationship with a known scammer/tax evader/money launderer???

Not really my lane as far as hiring though the "close" relationship aspect does not show collusion. Many in this community, and this forum spoke with MagicalTux (Knaples) only to later learn he was not a good person. If we knew at the time that XPY would turn into such a catastrophe we would not have carried it. At this point however the harm would be to the folks that he fleeced not the suspect himself. So who do you want punished?


Well, there's an easy way to help mitigate the damages that Cryptsy has played an integral part in: DELIST THE FUCKING COIN. If you do not do this, you might as well paint a big red fucking target on Cryptsy for all the alphabet agencies to fixate on, and as far as I'm concerned you will be complicit in any future criminal acts that Josh Garza commits (ignoring for the moment that Cryptsy has apparently aided and abetted money laundering for Josh's operation for quite some time). Why is this even a discussion for you? Can you not see how bad this makes your company look???

Again de-listing the coin only harms the current stakeholders not the individual you want to hurt. It is also listed at other exchanges. As far as the complicit I have already stated we took the appropriate and only legal action we are allowed to take in regards to that situation.

On another note: I have not spoken to the boss in regards to de-listing if it wins the poll we will have a serious discussion on that matter.

John, I appreciate the fact that you are responding. I hope that you will take these concerns very seriously. The ship has sailed for the XPY bagholders. They already lost like 90+% of their investments. This is about crippling Josh Garza's ongoing scam operations and ensuring that this disaster comes to a close. This coin will never lose the taint of Josh Garza, no matter how many hillbilly priests take over the coin and anoint it with holy water. If you want to do the right thing, the right thing is: delist (coin), destroy (prime controller), denounce (Josh and GAW). To do anything else is folly. 


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 01:04:56 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote


"No formal relationship" - You mean aside from the fact that Cryptsy CTO was apparently BFF's with Josh Garza and talked about "cupping his balls" all the time?

Ill have to look but I do not believe Marshall was the CTO at that time he has recently joined the company. Bryant was our CTO when we added XPY.

So it is not at all concerning to you that Marshall Long has a pre-existing close relationship with a known scammer/tax evader/money launderer???

Not really my lane as far as hiring though the "close" relationship aspect does not show collusion. Many in this community, and this forum spoke with MagicalTux (Knaples) only to later learn he was not a good person. If we knew at the time that XPY would turn into such a catastrophe we would not have carried it. At this point however the harm would be to the folks that he fleeced not the suspect himself. So who do you want punished?


Well, there's an easy way to help mitigate the damages that Cryptsy has played an integral part in: DELIST THE FUCKING COIN. If you do not do this, you might as well paint a big red fucking target on Cryptsy for all the alphabet agencies to fixate on, and as far as I'm concerned you will be complicit in any future criminal acts that Josh Garza commits (ignoring for the moment that Cryptsy has apparently aided and abetted money laundering for Josh's operation for quite some time). Why is this even a discussion for you? Can you not see how bad this makes your company look???

Again de-listing the coin only harms the current stakeholders not the individual you want to hurt. It is also listed at other exchanges. As far as the complicit I have already stated we took the appropriate and only legal action we are allowed to take in regards to that situation.

On another note: I have not spoken to the boss in regards to de-listing if it wins the poll we will have a serious discussion on that matter.

John, I appreciate the fact that you are responding. I hope that you will take these concerns very seriously. The ship has sailed for the XPY bagholders. They already lost like 90+% of their investments. This is about crippling Josh Garza's ongoing scam operations and ensuring that this disaster comes to a close. This coin will never lose the taint of Josh Garza, no matter how many hillbilly priests take over the coin and anoint it with holy water. If you want to do the right thing, the right thing is: delist (coin), destroy (prime controller), denounce (Josh and GAW). To do anything else is folly. 


You make some great points and I appreciate the candid discussion. Probably one of the better written responses I have seen :) I think you will get the majority if not all of those requests. I just want the folks to be able to get in their 2 cents before we make a unilateral move that may affect the bagholders.

One of the reasons we generally don't de-list coins is we feel that removing even a horribly performing coin is bad for the customer so we keep them. I think de-listing coins perpetuates the pump and dump mentality.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Franz_Huber on April 27, 2015, 01:09:13 PM

One of the reasons we generally don't de-list coins is we feel that removing even a horribly performing coin is bad for the customer so we keep them. I think de-listing coins perpetuates the pump and dump mentality.

Paycoin is not a "horribly performing coin", it's a scam. >:(  


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: bitpop on April 27, 2015, 01:10:58 PM
Does your cto still owe Homero a handjob?


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Xian01 on April 27, 2015, 01:18:06 PM
Oh FFS, enough with the theatrics. Just do the right thing already.

Return the controller
Delist XPY
Try to salvage your reputation

This poll is just absolutely pathetic.



Well that is an unpleasant surprise, our fit friend "hey bud" is the CTO of Cryptsy. Having used them extensively in the past I cannot complain of any real issues, other than a few clearly sloppy technical annoyances e.g. daemons being down and withdrawals having to be manually effected causing delays, coins on deposit mysteriously vanishing for several days etc. etc. All makes sense now. Fit body equals a fit mind... ::)

More importantly what about the MAT asic deal that was brokered? Someone came in here months ago detailing how "bud" maneuvered into MAT's first batch that was long pre-sold to the poor masses, and had them diverted to Gomero's operation. Thus effectively re-selling sold goods with is a no-no in the EU. The entire email dealings and contracts are on file in the dump, not clear the final outcome without digging them up again but crafty "bud" might have been too crafty, on top of his agreed commission for brokering the deal, tried to insist on an escrow being used, obviously to tap an additional margin on the cost of the goods...

Worse is is his fascination with this or "these"   :o


Quote

Subject:    Re: Booth for Hashers United
Date:    Fri, 03 Oct 2014 19:55:25 -0700
From:    Marshall Long <marshall.long@me.com>
To:    Josh Garza <josh@btc.com>



Ok,

Calm your tits. If your team comes early, and commandeers an adjacent space, and sets up in time, Ill just pat your ass and cup your balls. Tell your team to plan better bro. We literally finalized the floor plan 1 hour before amber called. That is not on me. However, I love your balls and it is fine.

But you gotta give me an hj. Deal?

From: Josh Garza <josh@btc.com>
Date: Friday, October 3, 2014 at 7:40 PM
To: Marshall Long <marshall.long@me.com>
Subject: Fwd: Booth for Hashers United

You got to be kidding? We paid you 20k

Don't make this an issue you asshat

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Amber Messer" <amber@gawminers.com>
Date: Oct 3, 2014 9:46 PM
Subject: Booth for Hashers United
To: "Evan Jones" <ejones@gawminers.com>, "Josh Garza" <josh@btc.com>, "Rami Abramov" <rami@btc.com>, "Christian Gogol" <christian@gawminers.com>
Cc:

Hi guys,
Sorry for the late notice. I just spoke with Marshall from Final Hash. If we use the 20x10 structure Monica created for us, they are saying we will have to get an additional both, which will cost extra.

I spoke with Monica and she said we can use just 10ft of the booth if we want, its still functional that way.

So my question is, do we want to use the whole structure and pay for the extra space, use 10ft and stay at the same price, or i can try to get the extra space without extra cost(so far hasn't worked for me)

Thank you for your thoughts!


Quote
Subject: SMS from Marshall Long [(972) 658-8670]
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 11:04:31 +0000
From: Marshall Long (SMS) <18025798360.19726588670.jGP6392m7h@txt.voice.google.com>
To: josh@geniusesatwork.com

Its all good dude. Im just bustin your balls.


Quote

Subject:    Re: Let's Race Cars in Vegas
Date:    Wed, 01 Oct 2014 23:24:55 +0000 (GMT)
From:    marshall.long@me.com <marshall.long@me.com>
To:    josh@btc.com

Yo let me in on the live interview bro. Il cup your balls


Sent from my Sprint phone


------ Original message------

From: Josh Garza

Date: Wed, Oct 1, 2014 16:04

To: Marshall Long;

Cc: Marco Streng;Abram Kottmeier;Leo Iruke;

Subject:Re: Let's Race Cars in Vegas


hurry, or I am going to make them choose one of your questions for the live interview :)


Josh Garza
CEO- GAW Corp

On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Marshall Long <marshall.long@me.com> wrote:

    Hahaha. Its on the charger. Imma call u in 1 minute

    From: Josh Garza <josh@btc.com>
    Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 at 5:59 PM
    To: Marshall Long <marshall.long@me.com>
    Cc: Marco Streng <marco.streng@genesis-mining.com>, Abram Kottmeier <abramkottmeier@gmail.com>, Leo Iruke <leoslaw@gmail.com>

    Subject: Re: Let's Race Cars in Vegas

    i am reneging

    pick up your phone!


    Josh Garza
    CEO- GAW Corp

    On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Marshall Long <marshall.long@me.com> wrote:

        Nobody cares. You picked the mclaren. Live with your choice rook

        From: Josh Garza <josh@btc.com>
        Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 at 5:56 PM
        To: Marshall Long <marshall.long@me.com>
        Cc: Marco Streng <marco.streng@genesis-mining.com>, Abram Kottmeier <abramkottmeier@gmail.com>, <leoslaw@gmail.com>

        Subject: Re: Let's Race Cars in Vegas

        I want that one, thats the only one I don’t already have :)


        Josh Garza
        CEO- GAW Corp

        On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Marshall Long <marshall.long@me.com> wrote:

            Give him the huracan… marco yu cant just say lambo dude…

            From: Marco Streng <marco.streng@genesis-mining.com>
            Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 at 5:41 PM
            To: Marshall Long <marshall.long@me.com>, Abram Kottmeier <abramkottmeier@gmail.com>, <Josh@btc.com>, <leoslaw@gmail.com>

            Subject: Re: Let's Race Cars in Vegas

            Haha, then let's go with the lambo. Is that fine Abram?
            Thank you guys btw. this is really a great idea!

            Greetings,
            Marco

            Am 01.10.2014 22:23, schrieb Marshall Long:
>             Marco,
>
>             Here are your options.
>
>             Www.exoticsracing.com
>             No bugatti’s. Don’t be greedy bud :)
>
>             From: Marco Streng <marco.streng@genesis-mining.com>
>             Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 at 5:20 PM
>             To: Abram Kottmeier <abramkottmeier@gmail.com>, <Josh@btc.com>, <leoslaw@gmail.com>, Marshall Long <marshall.long@me.com>, Dave Carlson <dave@megabigpower.com>
>             Subject: Re: Let's Race Cars in Vegas
>
>             Haha, that sounds fantastic! Let's get it rolling :)
>
>             Wednesday noon is perfect!
>
>             Is bugatti veyron also an option?
>
>             Greetings from Munich,
>             Marco
>
>             Am 01.10.2014 22:31, schrieb Abram Kottmeier:
>>             Hope everyone's Wednesday is rocking!
>>
>>             I've been working with Dave Carlson and Mega Big Power for a few months now. He suggested we get a group of guys together and go race exotic cars out the Las Vegas Motor Speedway. If we do it on Wednesday it could be a perfect break in between shows and a whole lot of fun. We can race Ferrari's, Lambo's, they've even got a McLaren.
>>
>>             Dave's been gracious enough to cover a 5-lap sessi



Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: capsqrl on April 27, 2015, 01:19:56 PM
Delisting XPY is the only right thing to do. As for the PC, destroy it if technically possible. Returning it is the second choice.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 01:20:27 PM
Does your cto still owe Homero a handjob?

One of the reasons we generally don't de-list coins is we feel that removing even a horribly performing coin is bad for the customer so we keep them. I think de-listing coins perpetuates the pump and dump mentality.

Paycoin is not a "horribly performing coin", it's a scam. >:(  

I would need to create a sock puppet to accurately respond to these two. Obviously I can only respond in an official capacity... But let me give it a shot.

Does your cto still owe Homero a handjob?

We do not condone sexual favors


One of the reasons we generally don't de-list coins is we feel that removing even a horribly performing coin is bad for the customer so we keep them. I think de-listing coins perpetuates the pump and dump mentality.

Paycoin is not a "horribly performing coin", it's a scam. >:(  

The issue at hand now is that the XPY blockchain is in the wild and there are other folks "bagholders" if you will who will be adversely affected. These folk are our primary consideration at this time.




Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: ladrx on April 27, 2015, 01:22:05 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote


"No formal relationship" - You mean aside from the fact that Cryptsy CTO was apparently BFF's with Josh Garza and talked about "cupping his balls" all the time?

Ill have to look but I do not believe Marshall was the CTO at that time he has recently joined the company. Bryant was our CTO when we added XPY.

So it is not at all concerning to you that Marshall Long has a pre-existing close relationship with a known scammer/tax evader/money launderer???

Not really my lane as far as hiring though the "close" relationship aspect does not show collusion. Many in this community, and this forum spoke with MagicalTux (Knaples) only to later learn he was not a good person. If we knew at the time that XPY would turn into such a catastrophe we would not have carried it. At this point however the harm would be to the folks that he fleeced not the suspect himself. So who do you want punished?


Well, there's an easy way to help mitigate the damages that Cryptsy has played an integral part in: DELIST THE FUCKING COIN. If you do not do this, you might as well paint a big red fucking target on Cryptsy for all the alphabet agencies to fixate on, and as far as I'm concerned you will be complicit in any future criminal acts that Josh Garza commits (ignoring for the moment that Cryptsy has apparently aided and abetted money laundering for Josh's operation for quite some time). Why is this even a discussion for you? Can you not see how bad this makes your company look???

Again de-listing the coin only harms the current stakeholders not the individual you want to hurt. It is also listed at other exchanges. As far as the complicit I have already stated we took the appropriate and only legal action we are allowed to take in regards to that situation.

On another note: I have not spoken to the boss in regards to de-listing if it wins the poll we will have a serious discussion on that matter.

John, I appreciate the fact that you are responding. I hope that you will take these concerns very seriously. The ship has sailed for the XPY bagholders. They already lost like 90+% of their investments. This is about crippling Josh Garza's ongoing scam operations and ensuring that this disaster comes to a close. This coin will never lose the taint of Josh Garza, no matter how many hillbilly priests take over the coin and anoint it with holy water. If you want to do the right thing, the right thing is: delist (coin), destroy (prime controller), denounce (Josh and GAW). To do anything else is folly. 


You make some great points and I appreciate the candid discussion. Probably one of the better written responses I have seen :) I think you will get the majority if not all of those requests. I just want the folks to be able to get in their 2 cents before we make a unilateral move that may affect the bagholders.

One of the reasons we generally don't de-list coins is we feel that removing even a horribly performing coin is bad for the customer so we keep them. I think de-listing coins perpetuates the pump and dump mentality.

I can't speak for my other compadres on BTCtalk, but I will patiently await Cryptsy's decision. Please impress upon your colleagues that this is a monumental decision, and your company's reputation hangs in the balance. I'm not being hyperbolic. Past transgressions notwithstanding, it's time for Cryptsy to decide where they stand and make a very public, completely unequivocal announcement indicating this decision.  



Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 01:23:34 PM
Oh FFS, enough with the theatrics. Just do the right thing already.

Return the controller
Delist XPY
Try to salvage your reputation

This poll is just absolutely pathetic.



Well that is an unpleasant surprise, our fit friend "hey bud" is the CTO of Cryptsy. Having used them extensively in the past I cannot complain of any real issues, other than a few clearly sloppy technical annoyances e.g. daemons being down and withdrawals having to be manually effected causing delays, coins on deposit mysteriously vanishing for several days etc. etc. All makes sense now. Fit body equals a fit mind... ::)

More importantly what about the MAT asic deal that was brokered? Someone came in here months ago detailing how "bud" maneuvered into MAT's first batch that was long pre-sold to the poor masses, and had them diverted to Gomero's operation. Thus effectively re-selling sold goods with is a no-no in the EU. The entire email dealings and contracts are on file in the dump, not clear the final outcome without digging them up again but crafty "bud" might have been too crafty, on top of his agreed commission for brokering the deal, tried to insist on an escrow being used, obviously to tap an additional margin on the cost of the goods...

Worse is is his fascination with this or "these"   :o


Quote

Subject:    Re: Booth for Hashers United
Date:    Fri, 03 Oct 2014 19:55:25 -0700
From:    Marshall Long <marshall.long@me.com>
To:    Josh Garza <josh@btc.com>



Ok,

Calm your tits. If your team comes early, and commandeers an adjacent space, and sets up in time, Ill just pat your ass and cup your balls. Tell your team to plan better bro. We literally finalized the floor plan 1 hour before amber called. That is not on me. However, I love your balls and it is fine.

But you gotta give me an hj. Deal?

From: Josh Garza <josh@btc.com>
Date: Friday, October 3, 2014 at 7:40 PM
To: Marshall Long <marshall.long@me.com>
Subject: Fwd: Booth for Hashers United

You got to be kidding? We paid you 20k

Don't make this an issue you asshat

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Amber Messer" <amber@gawminers.com>
Date: Oct 3, 2014 9:46 PM
Subject: Booth for Hashers United
To: "Evan Jones" <ejones@gawminers.com>, "Josh Garza" <josh@btc.com>, "Rami Abramov" <rami@btc.com>, "Christian Gogol" <christian@gawminers.com>
Cc:

Hi guys,
Sorry for the late notice. I just spoke with Marshall from Final Hash. If we use the 20x10 structure Monica created for us, they are saying we will have to get an additional both, which will cost extra.

I spoke with Monica and she said we can use just 10ft of the booth if we want, its still functional that way.

So my question is, do we want to use the whole structure and pay for the extra space, use 10ft and stay at the same price, or i can try to get the extra space without extra cost(so far hasn't worked for me)

Thank you for your thoughts!


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Subject: SMS from Marshall Long [(972) 658-8670]
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 11:04:31 +0000
From: Marshall Long (SMS) <18025798360.19726588670.jGP6392m7h@txt.voice.google.com>
To: josh@geniusesatwork.com

Its all good dude. Im just bustin your balls.


Quote

Subject:    Re: Let's Race Cars in Vegas
Date:    Wed, 01 Oct 2014 23:24:55 +0000 (GMT)
From:    marshall.long@me.com <marshall.long@me.com>
To:    josh@btc.com

Yo let me in on the live interview bro. Il cup your balls


Sent from my Sprint phone


------ Original message------

From: Josh Garza

Date: Wed, Oct 1, 2014 16:04

To: Marshall Long;

Cc: Marco Streng;Abram Kottmeier;Leo Iruke;

Subject:Re: Let's Race Cars in Vegas


hurry, or I am going to make them choose one of your questions for the live interview :)


Josh Garza
CEO- GAW Corp

On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Marshall Long <marshall.long@me.com> wrote:

    Hahaha. Its on the charger. Imma call u in 1 minute

    From: Josh Garza <josh@btc.com>
    Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 at 5:59 PM
    To: Marshall Long <marshall.long@me.com>
    Cc: Marco Streng <marco.streng@genesis-mining.com>, Abram Kottmeier <abramkottmeier@gmail.com>, Leo Iruke <leoslaw@gmail.com>

    Subject: Re: Let's Race Cars in Vegas

    i am reneging

    pick up your phone!


    Josh Garza
    CEO- GAW Corp

    On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Marshall Long <marshall.long@me.com> wrote:

        Nobody cares. You picked the mclaren. Live with your choice rook

        From: Josh Garza <josh@btc.com>
        Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 at 5:56 PM
        To: Marshall Long <marshall.long@me.com>
        Cc: Marco Streng <marco.streng@genesis-mining.com>, Abram Kottmeier <abramkottmeier@gmail.com>, <leoslaw@gmail.com>

        Subject: Re: Let's Race Cars in Vegas

        I want that one, thats the only one I don’t already have :)


        Josh Garza
        CEO- GAW Corp

        On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Marshall Long <marshall.long@me.com> wrote:

            Give him the huracan… marco yu cant just say lambo dude…

            From: Marco Streng <marco.streng@genesis-mining.com>
            Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 at 5:41 PM
            To: Marshall Long <marshall.long@me.com>, Abram Kottmeier <abramkottmeier@gmail.com>, <Josh@btc.com>, <leoslaw@gmail.com>

            Subject: Re: Let's Race Cars in Vegas

            Haha, then let's go with the lambo. Is that fine Abram?
            Thank you guys btw. this is really a great idea!

            Greetings,
            Marco

            Am 01.10.2014 22:23, schrieb Marshall Long:
>             Marco,
>
>             Here are your options.
>
>             Www.exoticsracing.com
>             No bugatti’s. Don’t be greedy bud :)
>
>             From: Marco Streng <marco.streng@genesis-mining.com>
>             Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 at 5:20 PM
>             To: Abram Kottmeier <abramkottmeier@gmail.com>, <Josh@btc.com>, <leoslaw@gmail.com>, Marshall Long <marshall.long@me.com>, Dave Carlson <dave@megabigpower.com>
>             Subject: Re: Let's Race Cars in Vegas
>
>             Haha, that sounds fantastic! Let's get it rolling :)
>
>             Wednesday noon is perfect!
>
>             Is bugatti veyron also an option?
>
>             Greetings from Munich,
>             Marco
>
>             Am 01.10.2014 22:31, schrieb Abram Kottmeier:
>>             Hope everyone's Wednesday is rocking!
>>
>>             I've been working with Dave Carlson and Mega Big Power for a few months now. He suggested we get a group of guys together and go race exotic cars out the Las Vegas Motor Speedway. If we do it on Wednesday it could be a perfect break in between shows and a whole lot of fun. We can race Ferrari's, Lambo's, they've even got a McLaren.
>>
>>             Dave's been gracious enough to cover a 5-lap sessi


I respect your opinion though the poll so far trends in your direction so not sure why you don't like it.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Xian01 on April 27, 2015, 01:25:11 PM
I respect your opinion though the poll so far trends in your direction so not sure why you don't like it.
I don't like it because you don't need a poll if your moral compass was properly calibrated to begin with.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Franz_Huber on April 27, 2015, 01:25:31 PM


The issue at hand now is that the XPY blockchain is in the wild and there are other folks "bagholders" if you will who will be adversely affected. These folk are our primary consideration at this time.




No, John, the issue at hand now for you is that Cryptsy can not be trusted - as long as you are supporting this scamcoin. You got the stink of Josh Garza all over you and it will be hard enough to get off already even if you delist the coin now. As for the XPY bagholders: Are you one of those, too? Did Garza pay you in XPY? Or why are you so worried about them? Pro tip: If Cryptsy delists Paycoin, the bagholders can still buy cool stuff on Coinstand or trade on Mineral - I hear they are both growing extremely fast, like all the amazing projects in the paycoin universe.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: dogetime on April 27, 2015, 01:28:49 PM
Destroy the controller, delist XPY, sever all ties to GAW (make this clear publicly as it looks like cryptsy and GAW are in bed with each other at the moment even if that's not true) and apologize to the cryptocurrency community for giving legitimacy to this pile of shit. If you're lucky you may be able to save your position in the community but I'm certainly never going to trade on cryptsy ever again. I suggest doing this soon because the longer you let it drag on the more damage is being done to your image, it's not like there isn't other good exchanges who could fill your position in a heartbeat.

TL;DR Don't attach a toxic brand and coin to your business and alienate your customer base, it's not good for business.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 01:29:11 PM
I respect your opinion though the poll so far trends in your direction so not sure why you don't like it.
I don't like it because you don't need a poll if your moral compass was properly calibrated to begin with.

Fair enough still its likely to trend in the direction your suggesting so not worth arguing over.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Franz_Huber on April 27, 2015, 01:31:08 PM
I respect your opinion though the poll so far trends in your direction so not sure why you don't like it.
I don't like it because you don't need a poll if your moral compass was properly calibrated to begin with.

Fair enough still its likely to trend in the direction your suggesting so not worth arguing over.

It's worth arguing over as long as you don't delist paycoin.
Maybe you can also answer this question, John: Why was XPY listed in the USD market in the first place? Did cryptsy get paid for that?


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 01:31:58 PM
Destroy the controller, delist XPY, sever all ties to GAW (make this clear publicly as it looks like cryptsy and GAW are in bed with each other at the moment even if that's not true) and apologize to the cryptocurrency community for giving legitimacy to this pile of shit. If you're lucky you may be able to save your position in the community but I'm certainly never going to trade on cryptsy ever again. I suggest doing this soon also because the longer you let it drag on the more damage is being done to your image, it's not like there isn't other good exchanges who could fill your position in a heartbeat.

TL;DR Don't attach a toxic brand and coin to your business and alienate your customer base, it's not good for business.

It is very likely the coins will be destroyed, I am leaning towards the delisting though not my decision, I absolutely denounce the actions that Garza and any compatriots are accused of. Like I have stated my only intention at this point is to make sure Cryptsy customers interests are supported since that is my #1 job.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: bitpop on April 27, 2015, 01:32:38 PM
Look, you end things before MORE people get hurt
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-corinthian-shutdown-20150427-story.html


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: WigitGetIt on April 27, 2015, 01:33:34 PM
Cryptsy doesn't have to do any of this, but they are.  They are asking people voice there opinion with the vote.  They could just as easily say FU, we run our business our way.  I don't have any reason to believe that Cryptsy would be engaged with Homero in a scam.  How about voting and letting it play out.  If you don't want to trade there due to this, then go trade somewhere else.  



Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 01:34:33 PM
Look, you end things before MORE people get hurt
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-corinthian-shutdown-20150427-story.html

Did they fund that college with Paycoin? Im lost....


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: bitpop on April 27, 2015, 01:45:16 PM
Look, you end things before MORE people get hurt
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-corinthian-shutdown-20150427-story.html

Did they fund that college with Paycoin? Im lost....

No they shutdown a scam


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: bitpop on April 27, 2015, 01:46:40 PM
Paycoin only helps the scammers

Bagholders - losing more money everyday

Homero, paycoin foundation, prime controllers - dumping everyday

Your exchange is just helping them steal more, bagholders will never roi, ever. Every day is just more losses.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 01:49:17 PM
Look, you end things before MORE people get hurt
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-corinthian-shutdown-20150427-story.html

Did they fund that college with Paycoin? Im lost....

No they shutdown a scam
[/quote

Totally irrelevant to the conversation.

Paycoin only helps the scammers

Bagholders - losing more money everyday

Homero, paycoin foundation, prime controllers - dumping everyday

Your exchange is just helping them steal more, bagholders will never roi, ever

Most folks who take a large loss would probably prefer not to lose the rest of their investment for a total loss. At this time they can still regain a portion of their investment. What you suggest is they lose the entire investment... Easy to suggest for those of us with no XPY holdings.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: bitpop on April 27, 2015, 01:53:24 PM
Look, you end things before MORE people get hurt
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-corinthian-shutdown-20150427-story.html

Did they fund that college with Paycoin? Im lost....

No they shutdown a scam
[/quote

Totally irrelevant to the conversation.

Paycoin only helps the scammers

Bagholders - losing more money everyday

Homero, paycoin foundation, prime controllers - dumping everyday

Your exchange is just helping them steal more, bagholders will never roi, ever

Most folks who take a large loss would probably prefer not to lose the rest of their investment for a total loss. At this time they can still regain a portion of their investment. What you suggest is they lose the entire investment... Easy to suggest for those of us with no XPY holdings.

It's $0.15 they've already lost 100x


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Paul Revere on April 27, 2015, 01:54:51 PM
Cryptsy doesn't have to do any of this, but they are.  They are asking people voice there opinion with the vote.  They could just as easily say FU, we run our business our way.  I don't have any reason to believe that Cryptsy would be engaged with Homero in a scam.  How about voting and letting it play out.  If you don't want to trade there due to this, then go trade somewhere else.  

No reason, eh?

everything going like mr garza planned with Big Vern of Cryptsy (thx PRODIGI). i dont remember if this was posted before

https://i.imgur.com/nforE3y.png
Well, this breaks the last straw for me.

Between Ripple continuing to show 0 BTC value in the account balance for months now with tickets being deep-sixed, and other minor altcoins wallets being in "maintenance" for weeks/months+ with no news of resolution while XPY gets a kiss every few days ...

Moving everything from Cryptsy to someplace that values keeping things working.

Now you do. Can you imagine how much less foolish you would look if you had bothered to read up on the matter before making such an ill informed statement supporting this pack of scamdogs?

P.S: The only vote that matters is your coins on deposit with Cryptsy. If you would rather not support brazen lying scammers whose intent is to defraud you, pull your coins.  If you like being played for a fool, keep them on there and you will eventually get what you are begging for. Simple.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 01:55:54 PM
Look, you end things before MORE people get hurt
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-corinthian-shutdown-20150427-story.html

Did they fund that college with Paycoin? Im lost....

No they shutdown a scam
[/quote

Totally irrelevant to the conversation.

Paycoin only helps the scammers

Bagholders - losing more money everyday

Homero, paycoin foundation, prime controllers - dumping everyday

Your exchange is just helping them steal more, bagholders will never roi, ever

Most folks who take a large loss would probably prefer not to lose the rest of their investment for a total loss. At this time they can still regain a portion of their investment. What you suggest is they lose the entire investment... Easy to suggest for those of us with no XPY holdings.

It's $0.15 they've already lost 100x

A valid observation. Again I do not make that call but I am leaning in that direction.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 01:59:37 PM
Cryptsy doesn't have to do any of this, but they are.  They are asking people voice there opinion with the vote.  They could just as easily say FU, we run our business our way.  I don't have any reason to believe that Cryptsy would be engaged with Homero in a scam.  How about voting and letting it play out.  If you don't want to trade there due to this, then go trade somewhere else.  

No reason, eh?

everything going like mr garza planned with Big Vern of Cryptsy (thx PRODIGI). i dont remember if this was posted before

https://i.imgur.com/nforE3y.png
Well, this breaks the last straw for me.

Between Ripple continuing to show 0 BTC value in the account balance for months now with tickets being deep-sixed, and other minor altcoins wallets being in "maintenance" for weeks/months+ with no news of resolution while XPY gets a kiss every few days ...

Moving everything from Cryptsy to someplace that values keeping things working.

Now you do. Can you imagine how much less foolish you would look if you had bothered to read up on the matter before making such an ill informed statement supporting this pack of scamdogs?

Excellent research totally out of context. This is an email from a discussion about GAW and Mintsy working together. It took place around the Inside BTC conference in Vegas. http://insidebitcoins.com/las-vegas . Totally unrelated to the topic. Take note we decided not to make this deal and are very happy with digitalBTC. The fact that we have met another influential person in the space is irrelevant. We have met and emailed most of them.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Adam_Allcock on April 27, 2015, 02:07:48 PM
Delist and remove PC.

Hope your reputation is stil salvageable....

I will personally never use cryptsy due to this. Making a "poll" about something as obvious as this show you're clueless about your moral stand


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Paul Revere on April 27, 2015, 02:08:42 PM
Cryptsy doesn't have to do any of this, but they are.  They are asking people voice there opinion with the vote.  They could just as easily say FU, we run our business our way.  I don't have any reason to believe that Cryptsy would be engaged with Homero in a scam.  How about voting and letting it play out.  If you don't want to trade there due to this, then go trade somewhere else.  

No reason, eh?

everything going like mr garza planned with Big Vern of Cryptsy (thx PRODIGI). i dont remember if this was posted before

https://i.imgur.com/nforE3y.png
Well, this breaks the last straw for me.

Between Ripple continuing to show 0 BTC value in the account balance for months now with tickets being deep-sixed, and other minor altcoins wallets being in "maintenance" for weeks/months+ with no news of resolution while XPY gets a kiss every few days ...

Moving everything from Cryptsy to someplace that values keeping things working.

Now you do. Can you imagine how much less foolish you would look if you had bothered to read up on the matter before making such an ill informed statement supporting this pack of scamdogs?

Excellent research totally out of context. This is an email from a discussion about GAW and Mintsy working together. It took place around the Inside BTC conference in Vegas. http://insidebitcoins.com/las-vegas . Totally unrelated to the topic. Take note we decided not to make this deal and are very happy with digitalBTC. The fact that we have met another influential person in the space is irrelevant. We have met and emailed most of them.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/YEAH-WELL-FUCK-YOU.jpg

I will let you know when I start valuing the opinion of a fucking scam shill.

Again: The only vote that matters is coins on deposit with Cryptsy. If you do not want to support brazen scams that fuck everyone in the Crypto world, pull your coins.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 02:11:27 PM
Delist and remove PC.

Hope your reputation is stil salvageable....

I will personally never use cryptsy due to this. Making a "poll" about something as obvious as this show you're clueless about your moral stand

Cant keep everyone happy like I stated earlier I am only really interested in what our current customers would like us to do with it. The poll is our way of collecting that data. I see no morally apprehensible issue in polling our user base prior to making a unilateral decision.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 02:13:00 PM
Cryptsy doesn't have to do any of this, but they are.  They are asking people voice there opinion with the vote.  They could just as easily say FU, we run our business our way.  I don't have any reason to believe that Cryptsy would be engaged with Homero in a scam.  How about voting and letting it play out.  If you don't want to trade there due to this, then go trade somewhere else.  

No reason, eh?

everything going like mr garza planned with Big Vern of Cryptsy (thx PRODIGI). i dont remember if this was posted before

https://i.imgur.com/nforE3y.png
Well, this breaks the last straw for me.

Between Ripple continuing to show 0 BTC value in the account balance for months now with tickets being deep-sixed, and other minor altcoins wallets being in "maintenance" for weeks/months+ with no news of resolution while XPY gets a kiss every few days ...

Moving everything from Cryptsy to someplace that values keeping things working.

Now you do. Can you imagine how much less foolish you would look if you had bothered to read up on the matter before making such an ill informed statement supporting this pack of scamdogs?

Excellent research totally out of context. This is an email from a discussion about GAW and Mintsy working together. It took place around the Inside BTC conference in Vegas. http://insidebitcoins.com/las-vegas . Totally unrelated to the topic. Take note we decided not to make this deal and are very happy with digitalBTC. The fact that we have met another influential person in the space is irrelevant. We have met and emailed most of them.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/YEAH-WELL-FUCK-YOU.jpg

I will let you know when I start valuing the opinion of a fucking scam shill.

Again: The only vote that matters is coins on deposit with Cryptsy. If you do not want to support brazen scams that fuck everyone in the Crypto world, pull your coins.

ahh meme's that's a good one. Not relevant to the conversation, but I value your opinion and will keep that in mind.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: adipurnama on April 27, 2015, 02:13:33 PM
delete XPY from  Cryptsy...gogogogogogo


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: mutha on April 27, 2015, 02:13:43 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote


"No formal relationship" - You mean aside from the fact that Cryptsy CTO was apparently BFF's with Josh Garza and talked about "cupping his balls" all the time?

Ill have to look but I do not believe Marshall was the CTO at that time he has recently joined the company. Bryant was our CTO when we added XPY.

So it is not at all concerning to you that Marshall Long has a pre-existing close relationship with a known scammer/tax evader/money launderer???

Not really my lane as far as hiring though the "close" relationship aspect does not show collusion. Many in this community, and this forum spoke with MagicalTux (Knaples) only to later learn he was not a good person. If we knew at the time that XPY would turn into such a catastrophe we would not have carried it. At this point however the harm would be to the folks that he fleeced not the suspect himself. So who do you want punished?


Well, there's an easy way to help mitigate the damages that Cryptsy has played an integral part in: DELIST THE FUCKING COIN. If you do not do this, you might as well paint a big red fucking target on Cryptsy for all the alphabet agencies to fixate on, and as far as I'm concerned you will be complicit in any future criminal acts that Josh Garza commits (ignoring for the moment that Cryptsy has apparently aided and abetted money laundering for Josh's operation for quite some time). Why is this even a discussion for you? Can you not see how bad this makes your company look???

Again de-listing the coin only harms the current stakeholders not the individual you want to hurt. It is also listed at other exchanges. As far as the complicit I have already stated we took the appropriate and only legal action we are allowed to take in regards to that situation.

On another note: I have not spoken to the boss in regards to de-listing if it wins the poll we will have a serious discussion on that matter.

You guys never seemed worried about the people that own other coins... what is so special about this pile of male bovine fecal matter you have fallen into?

I would like for you to answer this because I am on a committee that is has been listed on your exchange since 2013 and you have done us or our people no favors... Of course we do not cut any sweetheart deals with anyone or play cup the balls and grab ass either.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 02:15:54 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote


"No formal relationship" - You mean aside from the fact that Cryptsy CTO was apparently BFF's with Josh Garza and talked about "cupping his balls" all the time?

Ill have to look but I do not believe Marshall was the CTO at that time he has recently joined the company. Bryant was our CTO when we added XPY.

So it is not at all concerning to you that Marshall Long has a pre-existing close relationship with a known scammer/tax evader/money launderer???

Not really my lane as far as hiring though the "close" relationship aspect does not show collusion. Many in this community, and this forum spoke with MagicalTux (Knaples) only to later learn he was not a good person. If we knew at the time that XPY would turn into such a catastrophe we would not have carried it. At this point however the harm would be to the folks that he fleeced not the suspect himself. So who do you want punished?


Well, there's an easy way to help mitigate the damages that Cryptsy has played an integral part in: DELIST THE FUCKING COIN. If you do not do this, you might as well paint a big red fucking target on Cryptsy for all the alphabet agencies to fixate on, and as far as I'm concerned you will be complicit in any future criminal acts that Josh Garza commits (ignoring for the moment that Cryptsy has apparently aided and abetted money laundering for Josh's operation for quite some time). Why is this even a discussion for you? Can you not see how bad this makes your company look???

Again de-listing the coin only harms the current stakeholders not the individual you want to hurt. It is also listed at other exchanges. As far as the complicit I have already stated we took the appropriate and only legal action we are allowed to take in regards to that situation.

On another note: I have not spoken to the boss in regards to de-listing if it wins the poll we will have a serious discussion on that matter.

You guys never seemed worried about the people that own other coins... what is so special about this pile of male bovine fecal matter you have fallen into?

I would like for you to answer this because I am on a committee that is has been listed on your exchange since 2013 and you have done us or our people no favors... Of course we do not cut any sweetheart deals with anyone or play cup the balls and grab ass either.

As the exchange that keeps the majority of all coins listed and supported I fail to see your argument. Most exchanges let a pump and dump happen and move on.... You think maintaining support for peoples investments is a bad thing?


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Xian01 on April 27, 2015, 02:16:32 PM
Most folks who take a large loss would probably prefer not to lose the rest of their investment for a total loss. At this time they can still regain a portion of their investment. What you suggest is they lose the entire investment... Easy to suggest for those of us with no XPY holdings.
I bet anyone at the SEC reading this is picking their jaw up off the floor about now.

Really appreciate your openness !


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Paul Revere on April 27, 2015, 02:18:01 PM
Cryptsy doesn't have to do any of this, but they are.  They are asking people voice there opinion with the vote.  They could just as easily say FU, we run our business our way.  I don't have any reason to believe that Cryptsy would be engaged with Homero in a scam.  How about voting and letting it play out.  If you don't want to trade there due to this, then go trade somewhere else.  

No reason, eh?

everything going like mr garza planned with Big Vern of Cryptsy (thx PRODIGI). i dont remember if this was posted before

https://i.imgur.com/nforE3y.png
Well, this breaks the last straw for me.

Between Ripple continuing to show 0 BTC value in the account balance for months now with tickets being deep-sixed, and other minor altcoins wallets being in "maintenance" for weeks/months+ with no news of resolution while XPY gets a kiss every few days ...

Moving everything from Cryptsy to someplace that values keeping things working.

Now you do. Can you imagine how much less foolish you would look if you had bothered to read up on the matter before making such an ill informed statement supporting this pack of scamdogs?

Excellent research totally out of context. This is an email from a discussion about GAW and Mintsy working together. It took place around the Inside BTC conference in Vegas. http://insidebitcoins.com/las-vegas . Totally unrelated to the topic. Take note we decided not to make this deal and are very happy with digitalBTC. The fact that we have met another influential person in the space is irrelevant. We have met and emailed most of them.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/YEAH-WELL-FUCK-YOU.jpg

I will let you know when I start valuing the opinion of a fucking scam shill.

Again: The only vote that matters is coins on deposit with Cryptsy. If you do not want to support brazen scams that fuck everyone in the Crypto world, pull your coins.

ahh meme's that's a good one. Not relevant to the conversation, but I value your opinion and will keep that in mind.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTfXiJEaHrs0tvL0Dz1VrdqHWsn1n8br9qyMA6NlzjTtNZctXJbkQ

Again: The only vote that matters is coins on deposit with Cryptsy. If you do not support brazen lying scammers, pull them.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: adipurnama on April 27, 2015, 02:18:43 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote




im vote delist XPY of coin scame


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Adam_Allcock on April 27, 2015, 02:18:48 PM
Delist and remove PC.

Hope your reputation is stil salvageable....

I will personally never use cryptsy due to this. Making a "poll" about something as obvious as this show you're clueless about your moral stand

Cant keep everyone happy like I stated earlier I am only really interested in what our current customers would like us to do with it. The poll is our way of collecting that data. I see no morally apprehensible issue in polling our user base prior to making a unilateral decision.

Keep telling yourself that , "cant keep everyone happy"

When a business use such excuse, its already too late. Because from what i see so far in this community, you just disgusted everyone.

What  a great attitude.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: personEks on April 27, 2015, 02:19:38 PM
De-list xpy and destroy the prime controller("other" doesn't cut it). Talk until you're blue in the face, it is by your actions that we will judge you and to date those actions say that Cryptsy has been a knowing accomplice in this blight on the crypto world.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: mutha on April 27, 2015, 02:23:20 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote


"No formal relationship" - You mean aside from the fact that Cryptsy CTO was apparently BFF's with Josh Garza and talked about "cupping his balls" all the time?

Ill have to look but I do not believe Marshall was the CTO at that time he has recently joined the company. Bryant was our CTO when we added XPY.

So it is not at all concerning to you that Marshall Long has a pre-existing close relationship with a known scammer/tax evader/money launderer???

Not really my lane as far as hiring though the "close" relationship aspect does not show collusion. Many in this community, and this forum spoke with MagicalTux (Knaples) only to later learn he was not a good person. If we knew at the time that XPY would turn into such a catastrophe we would not have carried it. At this point however the harm would be to the folks that he fleeced not the suspect himself. So who do you want punished?


Well, there's an easy way to help mitigate the damages that Cryptsy has played an integral part in: DELIST THE FUCKING COIN. If you do not do this, you might as well paint a big red fucking target on Cryptsy for all the alphabet agencies to fixate on, and as far as I'm concerned you will be complicit in any future criminal acts that Josh Garza commits (ignoring for the moment that Cryptsy has apparently aided and abetted money laundering for Josh's operation for quite some time). Why is this even a discussion for you? Can you not see how bad this makes your company look???

Again de-listing the coin only harms the current stakeholders not the individual you want to hurt. It is also listed at other exchanges. As far as the complicit I have already stated we took the appropriate and only legal action we are allowed to take in regards to that situation.

On another note: I have not spoken to the boss in regards to de-listing if it wins the poll we will have a serious discussion on that matter.

You guys never seemed worried about the people that own other coins... what is so special about this pile of male bovine fecal matter you have fallen into?

I would like for you to answer this because I am on a committee that is has been listed on your exchange since 2013 and you have done us or our people no favors... Of course we do not cut any sweetheart deals with anyone or play cup the balls and grab ass either.

As the exchange that keeps the majority of all coins listed and supported I fail to see your argument. Most exchanges let a pump and dump happen and move on.... You think maintaining support for peoples investments is a bad thing?

Ummmm? Thanks for the answer... so color me stupid for not understanding the difference between keeping crypto currency, investments and scams liquid.



Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 02:27:09 PM
Most folks who take a large loss would probably prefer not to lose the rest of their investment for a total loss. At this time they can still regain a portion of their investment. What you suggest is they lose the entire investment... Easy to suggest for those of us with no XPY holdings.
I bet anyone at the SEC reading this is picking their jaw up off the floor about now.

Really appreciate your openness !

Just trying to let everyone see where we stand at this time. I apologize for not stepping in on this earlier was really not aware this discussion was happening until it was brought to my attention. I have been focused on our other products and I do accept fault for that. I also assure you that Paul will fully support the communities vote on this matter we just want to make sure its the right one.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Paul Revere on April 27, 2015, 02:35:32 PM
Most folks who take a large loss would probably prefer not to lose the rest of their investment for a total loss. At this time they can still regain a portion of their investment. What you suggest is they lose the entire investment... Easy to suggest for those of us with no XPY holdings.
I bet anyone at the SEC reading this is picking their jaw up off the floor about now.

Really appreciate your openness !

Just trying to let everyone see where we stand at this time. I apologize for not stepping in on this earlier was really not aware this discussion was happening until it was brought to my attention. I have been focused on our other products and I do accept fault for that. I also assure you that Paul will fully support the communities vote on this matter we just want to make sure its the right one.

Fascinating. Fuck you and your childish PR stunt "vote". Here is the actual voting platform: https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them.





Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 02:45:26 PM
Most folks who take a large loss would probably prefer not to lose the rest of their investment for a total loss. At this time they can still regain a portion of their investment. What you suggest is they lose the entire investment... Easy to suggest for those of us with no XPY holdings.
I bet anyone at the SEC reading this is picking their jaw up off the floor about now.

Really appreciate your openness !

Just trying to let everyone see where we stand at this time. I apologize for not stepping in on this earlier was really not aware this discussion was happening until it was brought to my attention. I have been focused on our other products and I do accept fault for that. I also assure you that Paul will fully support the communities vote on this matter we just want to make sure its the right one.

Fascinating. Fuck you and your childish PR stunt "vote". Here is the actual voting platform: https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them.


Again I respect your opinion, but beyond bumping the post which I appreciate your comments in this context are irrelevant to the discussion.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Paul Revere on April 27, 2015, 02:49:23 PM
Most folks who take a large loss would probably prefer not to lose the rest of their investment for a total loss. At this time they can still regain a portion of their investment. What you suggest is they lose the entire investment... Easy to suggest for those of us with no XPY holdings.
I bet anyone at the SEC reading this is picking their jaw up off the floor about now.

Really appreciate your openness !

Just trying to let everyone see where we stand at this time. I apologize for not stepping in on this earlier was really not aware this discussion was happening until it was brought to my attention. I have been focused on our other products and I do accept fault for that. I also assure you that Paul will fully support the communities vote on this matter we just want to make sure its the right one.

Fascinating. Fuck you and your childish PR stunt "vote". Here is the actual voting platform: https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them.


Again I respect your opinion, but beyond bumping the post which I appreciate your comments in this context are irrelevant to the discussion.

No you don't. You are a piss poor liar and a sorry excuse for a scam shill.

 AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform: https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.




Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: thundertoe on April 27, 2015, 02:50:56 PM
Is this the type of group Cryptsy should be giving exclusive special treatment to?

No premine, we'll mine for our coins just like everyone else" - lie
Hashlets will "Never expire and always be profitable" - lie
Valutbreakers - lie
Prime Hashlets will be able to mine SHA-256 - lie
Prime Hashlets will be the only ones mining XPY PoW phase - lie
HashBase - lie
AmpStore is coming soon - lie
Hybrid-thermal-rubber-rabbit-flux-chain BTC2 capabilities - lie
Orion nodes with higher payouts - lie
Paybase debit card - lie
Paybase Amazon, WallMart and co - lie
Paybase BillPay - lie
Paybase thousands of merchants on board - lie
XPY $20 floor - lie
World leading coin development team hired - lie
CAF (Coin Adoption Fund) - lie
$100 Million Fiat reserve - lie
We're moving the market - lie
GAW "bought" BTC.com for $1 Million dollar - lie
GAW bought ZenCloud for $8 Million dollar - lie
We'll destroy all the test coins once we've finished debugging - lie
premier accounts on paybase will go out in a week - lie
hundreds of coinstand invites are going out in the next few hours - lie
Honor program will buy back coins at 20$ - lie
Prime Hashlets will no longer be sold after a certain date - lie
Paybase is here to stay - lie
Thousands of coinstand invites are going out this week - lie
GAW is not dumping any XPY on exchanges - lie
Remember Legendarys limited to 500 - LIE
Vegas Legendarys only given to those attending Vegas - LIE
Vegas Legendarys will be the rarest of Legendarys - LIE
Holloween legendarys will be able to combine into something special - LIE
Staker Legendarys will only be limited to 100 - LIE
all Legendarys converted to Stakers will keep their Legendary status - LIE
all legendarys converted to Stakers will get extra abilities - LIE
Coinstand is a large merchant that will value paycoin at $20 - LIE


========------------------============-----------------===========

 
All proceeds from sales of Remember 9/11 hashlets will be donated to 9/11 Memorial Fund - LIE


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: vancefox on April 27, 2015, 02:53:57 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote


"No formal relationship" - You mean aside from the fact that Cryptsy CTO was apparently BFF's with Josh Garza and talked about "cupping his balls" all the time?

Ill have to look but I do not believe Marshall was the CTO at that time he has recently joined the company. Bryant was our CTO when we added XPY.

So it is not at all concerning to you that Marshall Long has a pre-existing close relationship with a known scammer/tax evader/money launderer???

Not really my lane as far as hiring though the "close" relationship aspect does not show collusion. Many in this community, and this forum spoke with MagicalTux (Knaples) only to later learn he was not a good person. If we knew at the time that XPY would turn into such a catastrophe we would not have carried it. At this point however the harm would be to the folks that he fleeced not the suspect himself. So who do you want punished?


Well, there's an easy way to help mitigate the damages that Cryptsy has played an integral part in: DELIST THE FUCKING COIN. If you do not do this, you might as well paint a big red fucking target on Cryptsy for all the alphabet agencies to fixate on, and as far as I'm concerned you will be complicit in any future criminal acts that Josh Garza commits (ignoring for the moment that Cryptsy has apparently aided and abetted money laundering for Josh's operation for quite some time). Why is this even a discussion for you? Can you not see how bad this makes your company look???

Again de-listing the coin only harms the current stakeholders not the individual you want to hurt. It is also listed at other exchanges. As far as the complicit I have already stated we took the appropriate and only legal action we are allowed to take in regards to that situation.

On another note: I have not spoken to the boss in regards to de-listing if it wins the poll we will have a serious discussion on that matter.

John, I appreciate the fact that you are responding. I hope that you will take these concerns very seriously. The ship has sailed for the XPY bagholders. They already lost like 90+% of their investments. This is about crippling Josh Garza's ongoing scam operations and ensuring that this disaster comes to a close. This coin will never lose the taint of Josh Garza, no matter how many hillbilly priests take over the coin and anoint it with holy water. If you want to do the right thing, the right thing is: delist (coin), destroy (prime controller), denounce (Josh and GAW). To do anything else is folly. 


You make some great points and I appreciate the candid discussion. Probably one of the better written responses I have seen :) I think you will get the majority if not all of those requests. I just want the folks to be able to get in their 2 cents before we make a unilateral move that may affect the bagholders.

One of the reasons we generally don't de-list coins is we feel that removing even a horribly performing coin is bad for the customer so we keep them. I think de-listing coins perpetuates the pump and dump mentality.

Honestly I could care less what Cryptsy does as far as delist/list of any coin.

My problem is that an exchange registered with FinCEN is getting got into bed with a company that is currently under SEC investigation.  You can try to say that GAW Miners, LLC is no longer associated with XPY, but leaked emails say otherwise and do you really want to chance it?

You as an exchange are not responsible, and should not get into the responsibility of, your user's profits and/or losses.  You provide a service to exchange coins/FIAT.  Stick to that.  If XPY is a scam, and it appears to be so, then you should be following internal policies and procedures.  Since you appear to either have none or have a policy to just follow past practice , you should be staying with ONLY past practice.

Here's my honest suggestion:

1) Take down the poll.
2) Contact your attorney, and not an 'intertoob' one, about both your current CTO and your current involvement with XPY in regards to your PC.
3) Stop posting publicly until step #2 tells you otherwise.
4) Follow the legal direction from step #2.


Take it or leave it...


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: cmilian on April 27, 2015, 02:57:32 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote





Thanks for posting the Pool. You are correct, Delisting will only hurt only those who are already hurting and stilol have some hope on XPY getting somewhere. On top of that, those who want the coin delisted could care less for XPY holders. They have no stake in it. Its like voting for another countries government. They should have no say in what does not affect them.

They will say,its a scam, I hate GAW, Josh is the devil, etc etc. They need to understand that even if it was a coin originated via a scam. (I honestly think it was not a scam, I believe it was delivered by a dreamer without the means or the ability to execute.) It is already a crypto currency in the wild that although low still has a value.

My humble opinion. I will now logout of BCT, I do not enjoy bad language :)

I believe that delisting of a coin should be based on its demand as with any other coin. Not because of obvious hate campaigns.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 03:00:38 PM
Most folks who take a large loss would probably prefer not to lose the rest of their investment for a total loss. At this time they can still regain a portion of their investment. What you suggest is they lose the entire investment... Easy to suggest for those of us with no XPY holdings.
I bet anyone at the SEC reading this is picking their jaw up off the floor about now.

Really appreciate your openness !

Just trying to let everyone see where we stand at this time. I apologize for not stepping in on this earlier was really not aware this discussion was happening until it was brought to my attention. I have been focused on our other products and I do accept fault for that. I also assure you that Paul will fully support the communities vote on this matter we just want to make sure its the right one.

Fascinating. Fuck you and your childish PR stunt "vote". Here is the actual voting platform: https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them.


Again I respect your opinion, but beyond bumping the post which I appreciate your comments in this context are irrelevant to the discussion.

No you don't. You are a piss poor liar and a sorry excuse for a scam shill.

 AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform: https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.


Very inciteful. First to be a shill I would probably have to not be a spokesperson, and a long time member of this community. Yes I think what has happened with the coin is despicable. The accusations against Mr Garza look to be accurate and are pretty disturbing which I have already stated.

I used to talk with Knaples right up until the point the Gox thing happened. He was a pretty savy Crypto guy by appearances. Again the only association we had with him was the fact he at the time was a respectable member of the community. Once we found a few disturbing documents etc. We broke ties with him.

On the XPY again we have a general policy not to delist coins as we feel it has a very negative affect on our customers. Seems some of you disagree so I will take the policy to our next meeting and we will review it.

We are not a small company Project investors is a mid sized company with about 50+ employees at any given time. We generally do not make swift decisions as we have a process for everything. In this community I get it its not fast enough. So I will address all these concerns with Paul and we will do what is right both morally and for our customers. If I dont come through then fine call me a paid shill. I am really posting here in order to address the issue and make sure the right decision is made.

I have no issues debating how we got to this point in fact I enjoy the discussion. Crypto is a great community and we would like to keep it that way. Thanks again to those who wish to have a candid, logical discussion on the topic. For those of you with the tin foil hats I love you guys too and will entertain your theories though I assure you there is no skeleton from what I know on the topic in our offices.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Paul Revere on April 27, 2015, 03:05:02 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote





Thanks for posting the Pool. You are correct, Delisting will only hurt only those who are already hurting and stilol have some hope on XPY getting somewhere. On top of that, those who want the coin delisted could care less for XPY holders. They have no stake in it. Its like voting for another countries government. They should have no say in what does not affect them.

They will say,its a scam, I hate GAW, Josh is the devil, etc etc. They need to understand that even if it was a coin originated via a scam. (I honestly think it was not a scam, I believe it was delivered by a dreamer without the means or the ability to execute.) It is already a crypto currency in the wild that although low still has a value.

My humble opinion. I will now logout of BCT, I do not enjoy bad language :)

I believe that delisting of a coin should be based on its demand as with any other coin. Not because of obvious hate campaigns.

Well, well, well, look what the cat dragged in, another one of Homero's Scamrats coming to help out another one of Homero's Scamrats. How is that BTClend scam you and Josh Garza set up together going? Got lots of idiots to lock up their XPY for 15% paid for with another one of Homero's Prime controllers while you and him split the other 85%?? This also allows Josh and the other dirtbags with Paycoin Shitters to continue dumping with that much less competition. Have fun fucking over the people you pretend to be friends with on Hashtalk by conning them into locking coins into your scam for 15%/tear while Paycoin loses ~50% a month. When the shit really hits the fan, Homero will toss your pathetic wannabe scammer ass under the bus.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform:Click HERE to vote (https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login)

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: suchmoon on April 27, 2015, 03:09:54 PM
If we knew at the time that XPY would turn into such a catastrophe we would not have carried it.

Hilarious. Were you locked up in a dungeon for the last six months? 97% premined coin controlled by a pathological liar and owing its whole existence to a false "floor" promise somehow looked legit to you?


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 03:10:53 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote


"No formal relationship" - You mean aside from the fact that Cryptsy CTO was apparently BFF's with Josh Garza and talked about "cupping his balls" all the time?

Ill have to look but I do not believe Marshall was the CTO at that time he has recently joined the company. Bryant was our CTO when we added XPY.

So it is not at all concerning to you that Marshall Long has a pre-existing close relationship with a known scammer/tax evader/money launderer???

Not really my lane as far as hiring though the "close" relationship aspect does not show collusion. Many in this community, and this forum spoke with MagicalTux (Knaples) only to later learn he was not a good person. If we knew at the time that XPY would turn into such a catastrophe we would not have carried it. At this point however the harm would be to the folks that he fleeced not the suspect himself. So who do you want punished?


Well, there's an easy way to help mitigate the damages that Cryptsy has played an integral part in: DELIST THE FUCKING COIN. If you do not do this, you might as well paint a big red fucking target on Cryptsy for all the alphabet agencies to fixate on, and as far as I'm concerned you will be complicit in any future criminal acts that Josh Garza commits (ignoring for the moment that Cryptsy has apparently aided and abetted money laundering for Josh's operation for quite some time). Why is this even a discussion for you? Can you not see how bad this makes your company look???

Again de-listing the coin only harms the current stakeholders not the individual you want to hurt. It is also listed at other exchanges. As far as the complicit I have already stated we took the appropriate and only legal action we are allowed to take in regards to that situation.

On another note: I have not spoken to the boss in regards to de-listing if it wins the poll we will have a serious discussion on that matter.

John, I appreciate the fact that you are responding. I hope that you will take these concerns very seriously. The ship has sailed for the XPY bagholders. They already lost like 90+% of their investments. This is about crippling Josh Garza's ongoing scam operations and ensuring that this disaster comes to a close. This coin will never lose the taint of Josh Garza, no matter how many hillbilly priests take over the coin and anoint it with holy water. If you want to do the right thing, the right thing is: delist (coin), destroy (prime controller), denounce (Josh and GAW). To do anything else is folly. 


You make some great points and I appreciate the candid discussion. Probably one of the better written responses I have seen :) I think you will get the majority if not all of those requests. I just want the folks to be able to get in their 2 cents before we make a unilateral move that may affect the bagholders.

One of the reasons we generally don't de-list coins is we feel that removing even a horribly performing coin is bad for the customer so we keep them. I think de-listing coins perpetuates the pump and dump mentality.

Honestly I could care less what Cryptsy does as far as delist/list of any coin.

My problem is that an exchange registered with FinCEN is getting got into bed with a company that is currently under SEC investigation.  You can try to say that GAW Miners, LLC is no longer associated with XPY, but leaked emails say otherwise and do you really want to chance it?

You as an exchange are not responsible, and should not get into the responsibility of, your user's profits and/or losses.  You provide a service to exchange coins/FIAT.  Stick to that.  If XPY is a scam, and it appears to be so, then you should be following internal policies and procedures.  Since you appear to either have none or have a policy to just follow past practice , you should be staying with ONLY past practice.

Here's my honest suggestion:

1) Take down the poll.
2) Contact your attorney, and not an 'intertoob' one, about both your current CTO and your current involvement with XPY in regards to your PC.
3) Stop posting publicly until step #2 tells you otherwise.
4) Follow the legal direction from step #2.


Take it or leave it...

You making the assumption we had a formal arrangement with Mr. Garza beyond him being a registered verified user.

Your also making the assumption that we did not do our due diligence in reporting. Which it is illegal for me to expand on any further than that.

The Prime controller arrangement was made with other parties after Mr Garza was out of the equation. Though with good intention the public backlash has led us to reconsider the move which we intend to do.

Cryptsy is an exchange yes we listed the coin just like we list the majority of coins. There was to my knowledge " and I have inquired" no formal relationships made.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Adam_Allcock on April 27, 2015, 03:11:54 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote





Thanks for posting the Pool. You are correct, Delisting will only hurt only those who are already hurting and stilol have some hope on XPY getting somewhere. On top of that, those who want the coin delisted could care less for XPY holders. They have no stake in it. Its like voting for another countries government. They should have no say in what does not affect them.

They will say,its a scam, I hate GAW, Josh is the devil, etc etc. They need to understand that even if it was a coin originated via a scam. (I honestly think it was not a scam, I believe it was delivered by a dreamer without the means or the ability to execute.) It is already a crypto currency in the wild that although low still has a value.

My humble opinion. I will now logout of BCT, I do not enjoy bad language :)

I believe that delisting of a coin should be based on its demand as with any other coin. Not because of obvious hate campaigns.

When noone in this community supports you except the known scammer above, it speaks volume about your business decision.

Let me sum this up nicely for you BigJohn: your action speaks 1000x louder than your words. You can speak untill your face turn blue all it doed is just make you look like Josh.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 03:13:11 PM
If we knew at the time that XPY would turn into such a catastrophe we would not have carried it.

Hilarious. Were you locked up in a dungeon for the last six months? 97% premined coin controlled by a pathological liar and owing its whole existence to a false "floor" promise somehow looked legit to you?

Ha you laugh, but yes I have been way more involved with our other services.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 03:14:35 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote





Thanks for posting the Pool. You are correct, Delisting will only hurt only those who are already hurting and stilol have some hope on XPY getting somewhere. On top of that, those who want the coin delisted could care less for XPY holders. They have no stake in it. Its like voting for another countries government. They should have no say in what does not affect them.

They will say,its a scam, I hate GAW, Josh is the devil, etc etc. They need to understand that even if it was a coin originated via a scam. (I honestly think it was not a scam, I believe it was delivered by a dreamer without the means or the ability to execute.) It is already a crypto currency in the wild that although low still has a value.

My humble opinion. I will now logout of BCT, I do not enjoy bad language :)

I believe that delisting of a coin should be based on its demand as with any other coin. Not because of obvious hate campaigns.

When noone in this community supports you except the known scammer above, it speaks volume about your business decision.

Let me sum this up nicely for you BigJohn: your action speaks 1000x louder than your words. You can speak untill your face turn blue all it doed is just make you look like Josh.

Agreed and we will take action and I invite you to judge me after that ;) In the meantime I will still entertain discussion so everyone gets the answers they seek.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: marksw on April 27, 2015, 03:16:56 PM

Agreed and we will take action and I invite you to judge me after that ;) In the meantime I will still entertain discussion so everyone gets the answers they seek.

Ok so answer ...  who is going to pay "the folks" their "2 cents"?

some n00b who is new to crypto and doesn't do their research or saw some hype from Garza and shills?.... THE SCAMCOIN CYCLE MUST CONTINUE!!!!!!!!!


I just want the folks to be able to get in their 2 cents before we make a unilateral move that may affect the bagholders.



Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Paul Revere on April 27, 2015, 03:19:14 PM
If we knew at the time that XPY would turn into such a catastrophe we would not have carried it.

Hilarious. Were you locked up in a dungeon for the last six months? 97% premined coin controlled by a pathological liar and owing its whole existence to a false "floor" promise somehow looked legit to you?

Ha you laugh, but yes I have been way more involved with our other services.

"Other Services"? You mean like the scam set up between Cryptsy and Josh Garza known as Mintsy? Fascinating, you were way to busy maintaining the other scam with Garza to know about this scam between Cryptsy and Garza.  ::) You guys obviously use the same PR book that the Scamdog Garza uses. Intelligent people would STFU and say nothing instead of calling up the Winds of Shit (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4iDurCE3Yk). Better plug your ears, they might implode from the Shit Pressure. You were warned, but you picked the wrong side.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform:Click HERE to vote (https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login)

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 03:24:13 PM
If we knew at the time that XPY would turn into such a catastrophe we would not have carried it.

Hilarious. Were you locked up in a dungeon for the last six months? 97% premined coin controlled by a pathological liar and owing its whole existence to a false "floor" promise somehow looked legit to you?

Ha you laugh, but yes I have been way more involved with our other services.

"Other Services"? You mean like the scam set up between Cryptsy and Josh Garza known as Mintsy? Fascinating, you were way to busy maintaining the other scam with Garza to know about this scam between Cryptsy and Garza.  ::) You guys obviously use the same PR book that the Scamdog Garza uses. Intelligent people would STFU and say nothing instead of calling up the Winds of Shit (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4iDurCE3Yk). Better plug your ears, they might implode from the Shit Pressure. You were warned, but you picked the wrong side.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform: https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.


Mr Garza is in no way associated with digialBTC so not sure what correlation your trying to make. I have already stated he tried to get involved with that project and we went another route.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Paul Revere on April 27, 2015, 03:29:38 PM
If we knew at the time that XPY would turn into such a catastrophe we would not have carried it.

Hilarious. Were you locked up in a dungeon for the last six months? 97% premined coin controlled by a pathological liar and owing its whole existence to a false "floor" promise somehow looked legit to you?

Ha you laugh, but yes I have been way more involved with our other services.

"Other Services"? You mean like the scam set up between Cryptsy and Josh Garza known as Mintsy? Fascinating, you were way to busy maintaining the other scam with Garza to know about this scam between Cryptsy and Garza.  ::) You guys obviously use the same PR book that the Scamdog Garza uses. Intelligent people would STFU and say nothing instead of calling up the Winds of Shit (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4iDurCE3Yk). Better plug your ears, they might implode from the Shit Pressure. You were warned, but you picked the wrong side.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform: https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.


Mr Garza is in no way associated with digialBTC so not sure what correlation your trying to make. I have already stated he tried to get involved with that project and we went another route.

He tried, eh? Thanks for verifying that. Why are we are supposed to believe that Homero Josh Garza did not get involved ? Once a liar, always a liar.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform:Click HERE to vote (https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login)

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: JudgePolzin on April 27, 2015, 03:35:55 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote





Thanks for posting the Pool. You are correct, Delisting will only hurt only those who are already hurting and stilol have some hope on XPY getting somewhere. On top of that, those who want the coin delisted could care less for XPY holders. They have no stake in it. Its like voting for another countries government. They should have no say in what does not affect them.

They will say,its a scam, I hate GAW, Josh is the devil, etc etc. They need to understand that even if it was a coin originated via a scam. (I honestly think it was not a scam, I believe it was delivered by a dreamer without the means or the ability to execute.) It is already a crypto currency in the wild that although low still has a value.

My humble opinion. I will now logout of BCT, I do not enjoy bad language :)

I believe that delisting of a coin should be based on its demand as with any other coin. Not because of obvious hate campaigns.

Well, well, well, look what the cat dragged in, another one of Homero's Scamrats coming to help out another one of Homero's Scamrats. How is that BTClend scam you and Josh Garza set up together going? Got lots of idiots to lock up their XPY for 15% paid for with another one of Homero's Prime controllers while you and him split the other 85%?? This also allows Josh and the other dirtbags with Paycoin Shitters to continue dumping with that much less competition. Have fun fucking over the people you pretend to be friends with on Hashtalk by conning them into locking coins into your scam for 15%/tear while Paycoin loses ~50% a month. When the shit really hits the fan, Homero will toss your pathetic wannabe scammer ass under the bus.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform:Click HERE to vote (https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login)

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.


Do you have evidence on what you are saying? Do you have evidence that Josh is part of BTCLend? Do you have evidence that the Prime that BTCLend is using a prime given by Josh?

Until then you my friend have been found guilty by Judge Polzin of being full of shit.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 03:43:34 PM
Cryptsy CEO speaks on the XPY Prime Node http://blog.cryptsy.com/


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: bitpop on April 27, 2015, 03:45:32 PM
Cryptsy CEO speaks on the XPY Prime Node http://blog.cryptsy.com/

Scammer talk


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: zenfur on April 27, 2015, 03:47:05 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote




BitJohn you are an executive?
Lets break it down.
1- Less than 48 hours ago you said you took the controller to help paycoin owners
2- you said you wanted to help paycoin owners recover some losses
3- you said you would help the paycoin community

Now you are saying
1-you don't know what to do with the controller
2-you want to delist xpy
3-you want to destroy the controller

You changed your opinion and your business plan in less than 48 hours just because you were asked some questions? Those people that taunted you on the forums must have been real tough huh?

I am not buying that you had no plan when you accepted the controller. you either had a plan and you scrapped it, or you are the most incompetent exec i have ever seen. You are also a coward, you gave you word made an agreement and then change you mind because people started asking questions, words are wind i guess.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 03:47:31 PM
Cryptsy CEO speaks on the XPY Prime Node http://blog.cryptsy.com/

Scammer talk

Your replied so fast there is no way you read it lol


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Paul Revere on April 27, 2015, 03:47:58 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote


Thanks for posting the Pool. You are correct, Delisting will only hurt only those who are already hurting and stilol have some hope on XPY getting somewhere. On top of that, those who want the coin delisted could care less for XPY holders. They have no stake in it. Its like voting for another countries government. They should have no say in what does not affect them.

They will say,its a scam, I hate GAW, Josh is the devil, etc etc. They need to understand that even if it was a coin originated via a scam. (I honestly think it was not a scam, I believe it was delivered by a dreamer without the means or the ability to execute.) It is already a crypto currency in the wild that although low still has a value.

My humble opinion. I will now logout of BCT, I do not enjoy bad language :)

I believe that delisting of a coin should be based on its demand as with any other coin. Not because of obvious hate campaigns.

Well, well, well, look what the cat dragged in, another one of Homero's Scamrats coming to help out another one of Homero's Scamrats. How is that BTClend scam you and Josh Garza set up together going? Got lots of idiots to lock up their XPY for 15% paid for with another one of Homero's Prime controllers while you and him split the other 85%?? This also allows Josh and the other dirtbags with Paycoin Shitters to continue dumping with that much less competition. Have fun fucking over the people you pretend to be friends with on Hashtalk by conning them into locking coins into your scam for 15%/tear while Paycoin loses ~50% a month. When the shit really hits the fan, Homero will toss your pathetic wannabe scammer ass under the bus.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform:Click HERE to vote (https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login)

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.


Do you have evidence on what you are saying? Do you have evidence that Josh is part of BTCLend? Do you have evidence that the Prime that BTCLend is using a prime given by Josh?

Until then you my friend have been found guilty by Judge Polzin of being full of shit.

Yes, there is proof. There are Emails between Cmilian and Homero Josh Garza discussing using GAW develepors and GAW/Garza funding of BTClend. It is buried 100-200 pages back in the massive GAW scam thread. Thank for asking and I do encourage you and everyone else interested to have a look. The amount of information you will be exposed to while looking will be rather enlightening.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform:Click HERE to vote (https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login)

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: dogetime on April 27, 2015, 03:48:18 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote





Thanks for posting the Pool. You are correct, Delisting will only hurt only those who are already hurting and stilol have some hope on XPY getting somewhere. On top of that, those who want the coin delisted could care less for XPY holders. They have no stake in it. Its like voting for another countries government. They should have no say in what does not affect them.

They will say,its a scam, I hate GAW, Josh is the devil, etc etc. They need to understand that even if it was a coin originated via a scam. (I honestly think it was not a scam, I believe it was delivered by a dreamer without the means or the ability to execute.) It is already a crypto currency in the wild that although low still has a value.

My humble opinion. I will now logout of BCT, I do not enjoy bad language :)

I believe that delisting of a coin should be based on its demand as with any other coin. Not because of obvious hate campaigns.

While keeping it listed gives a false sense of legitimacy to it in my opinion and leaves the door open for more people to fall into the same trap that you're currently in. I understand however that the only way in which you and the other bag holders can 'recover' from your bad investment is by other people making terrible investments and suffering heavy losses by buying this coin. I personally don't think it is ethical to make even more people suffer and damage a scene just because you made some bad investment decisions but I guess that's more a case of morals. I mean if I make a bad trade I don't go crying to my forex/stock broker for special treatment, that's just not the way the real world works. My risk management strategies should have killed my involvement long before pain (as they did when I traded XPY) and if I didn't have any then I shouldn't be trading anyway. If Crypsty is willing to hold all your hands and throw their reputation away in the process then that's their choice but don't expect the rest of the scene to look kindly on it and not shun you for it.

People make bad trades and lose money, learn from it and move on like every other trader in the world has to. Let your profitable trades run and cut your losses early, don't cling onto a sinking ship hoping for a miracle because that's how you lose everything.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: marksw on April 27, 2015, 03:49:14 PM
Cryptsy CEO speaks on the XPY Prime Node http://blog.cryptsy.com/

Scammer talk

Your replied so fast there is no way you read it lol

Thats because its the same old dribble... delist XPY.... forget the PC


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 03:53:50 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote




BitJohn you are an executive?
Lets break it down.
1- Less than 48 hours ago you said you took the controller to help paycoin owners
2- you said you wanted to help paycoin owners recover some losses
3- you said you would help the paycoin community

Now you are saying
1-you don't know what to do with the controller
2-you want to delist xpy
3-you want to destroy the controller

You changed your opinion and your business plan in less than 48 hours just because you were asked some questions? Those people that taunted you on the forums must have been real tough huh?

I am not buying that you had no plan when you accepted the controller. you either had a plan and you scrapped it, or you are the most incompetent exec i have ever seen. You are also a coward, you gave you word made an agreement and then change you mind because people started asking questions, words are wind i guess.
Yes I work for the parent company, and deal with the full range of products. I have been in the community since the early days, and joined Cryptsy when the goal was simply to make trading alt coins safer as a volunteer. So yes the situation disgusts me overall. Now it is my intention to make the situation as "most right" as we can. Knowing full well we cannot undue what damage Mr Garza has done. So believe me or not I am being as open as I can and intend to do what is best for the Cryptsy customers since that is my job.

I'm pretty open about what I want. I want whats best for our customers. My personal opinions are irrelevant honestly, and are just that, as I only advise I don''t execute. In the end we are going to do what is best for our clients as we always do.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: vancefox on April 27, 2015, 03:54:14 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote


"No formal relationship" - You mean aside from the fact that Cryptsy CTO was apparently BFF's with Josh Garza and talked about "cupping his balls" all the time?

Ill have to look but I do not believe Marshall was the CTO at that time he has recently joined the company. Bryant was our CTO when we added XPY.

So it is not at all concerning to you that Marshall Long has a pre-existing close relationship with a known scammer/tax evader/money launderer???

Not really my lane as far as hiring though the "close" relationship aspect does not show collusion. Many in this community, and this forum spoke with MagicalTux (Knaples) only to later learn he was not a good person. If we knew at the time that XPY would turn into such a catastrophe we would not have carried it. At this point however the harm would be to the folks that he fleeced not the suspect himself. So who do you want punished?


Well, there's an easy way to help mitigate the damages that Cryptsy has played an integral part in: DELIST THE FUCKING COIN. If you do not do this, you might as well paint a big red fucking target on Cryptsy for all the alphabet agencies to fixate on, and as far as I'm concerned you will be complicit in any future criminal acts that Josh Garza commits (ignoring for the moment that Cryptsy has apparently aided and abetted money laundering for Josh's operation for quite some time). Why is this even a discussion for you? Can you not see how bad this makes your company look???

Again de-listing the coin only harms the current stakeholders not the individual you want to hurt. It is also listed at other exchanges. As far as the complicit I have already stated we took the appropriate and only legal action we are allowed to take in regards to that situation.

On another note: I have not spoken to the boss in regards to de-listing if it wins the poll we will have a serious discussion on that matter.

John, I appreciate the fact that you are responding. I hope that you will take these concerns very seriously. The ship has sailed for the XPY bagholders. They already lost like 90+% of their investments. This is about crippling Josh Garza's ongoing scam operations and ensuring that this disaster comes to a close. This coin will never lose the taint of Josh Garza, no matter how many hillbilly priests take over the coin and anoint it with holy water. If you want to do the right thing, the right thing is: delist (coin), destroy (prime controller), denounce (Josh and GAW). To do anything else is folly. 


You make some great points and I appreciate the candid discussion. Probably one of the better written responses I have seen :) I think you will get the majority if not all of those requests. I just want the folks to be able to get in their 2 cents before we make a unilateral move that may affect the bagholders.

One of the reasons we generally don't de-list coins is we feel that removing even a horribly performing coin is bad for the customer so we keep them. I think de-listing coins perpetuates the pump and dump mentality.

Honestly I could care less what Cryptsy does as far as delist/list of any coin.

My problem is that an exchange registered with FinCEN is getting got into bed with a company that is currently under SEC investigation.  You can try to say that GAW Miners, LLC is no longer associated with XPY, but leaked emails say otherwise and do you really want to chance it?

You as an exchange are not responsible, and should not get into the responsibility of, your user's profits and/or losses.  You provide a service to exchange coins/FIAT.  Stick to that.  If XPY is a scam, and it appears to be so, then you should be following internal policies and procedures.  Since you appear to either have none or have a policy to just follow past practice , you should be staying with ONLY past practice.

Here's my honest suggestion:

1) Take down the poll.
2) Contact your attorney, and not an 'intertoob' one, about both your current CTO and your current involvement with XPY in regards to your PC.
3) Stop posting publicly until step #2 tells you otherwise.
4) Follow the legal direction from step #2.


Take it or leave it...

You making the assumption we had a formal arrangement with Mr. Garza beyond him being a registered verified user.

Your also making the assumption that we did not do our due diligence in reporting. Which it is illegal for me to expand on any further than that.

The Prime controller arrangement was made with other parties after Mr Garza was out of the equation. Though with good intention the public backlash has led us to reconsider the move which we intend to do.

Cryptsy is an exchange yes we listed the coin just like we list the majority of coins. There was to my knowledge " and I have inquired" no formal relationships made.

I do make the assumption that a formal arrangement was made with Mr. Garza due to:

1) XPY was listed in record time and did not require a vote and a "time delay".  This means that the vote never took place which is in itself outside of your normal practices.
2) XPY was first listed with both BTC and FIAT conversions.
3) leaked emails insinuate a rather close relationship between GAW/XPY and Cryptsy.

Also, I'm sure you did your due diligence but, as in every other company (I suggest you verify this with your attorney), new information through either leaks or actions should bring about further investigation.  In other words, just because you did your due diligence prior to hiring doesn't mean that he's golden for life...  Again, verify this with your attorney.

And, it doesn't matter who you got the PC from.  The origin of this coin is tainted and, as I've said way before Cryptsy got their hands on an unbalanced hyper-inflationary virtual printer, anyone who comes in contact with this is going to have to take a very long and very open "bath".


When your CTO is outed as having a potentially unethical connection with a coin that your business is showing preferential treatment towards you catch the attention of those that are self proclaimed troll police.

Also, it may cause the SEC, FTC, FBI, NSA, etc to push their eye towards you and your business as well...

Head the warning or tell me to go to hell, I really don't give a rats ass.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: suchmoon on April 27, 2015, 03:55:42 PM
The statement that delisting the coin will hurt "legitimate" bagholders is a bit of a fallacy.

First, there are other exchanges trading it (Mineral LOL) so it's not like the bagholders would have an issue getting rid of it. So why should Cryptsy put its reputation or whatever is left of it on the line. Let the shadier exchanges deal with it.

Second, for the existing bagholders to salvage their investment somebody has to be buying that coin. And it being listed on Cryptsy unfortunately might imply some sort of credibility to some customers. Again, why should Cryptsy be part of that and potentially enable new people to be drawn into this debacle.

There is probably a way to wind this down amicably, for example Cryptsy could label the coin with a gaudy warning and give it a few weeks before delisting.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: vancefox on April 27, 2015, 03:57:47 PM
Cryptsy CEO speaks on the XPY Prime Node http://blog.cryptsy.com/

Scammer talk

Your replied so fast there is no way you read it lol

I read it.  I agree with bitpop.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: JudgePolzin on April 27, 2015, 03:57:58 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote


Thanks for posting the Pool. You are correct, Delisting will only hurt only those who are already hurting and stilol have some hope on XPY getting somewhere. On top of that, those who want the coin delisted could care less for XPY holders. They have no stake in it. Its like voting for another countries government. They should have no say in what does not affect them.

They will say,its a scam, I hate GAW, Josh is the devil, etc etc. They need to understand that even if it was a coin originated via a scam. (I honestly think it was not a scam, I believe it was delivered by a dreamer without the means or the ability to execute.) It is already a crypto currency in the wild that although low still has a value.

My humble opinion. I will now logout of BCT, I do not enjoy bad language :)

I believe that delisting of a coin should be based on its demand as with any other coin. Not because of obvious hate campaigns.

Well, well, well, look what the cat dragged in, another one of Homero's Scamrats coming to help out another one of Homero's Scamrats. How is that BTClend scam you and Josh Garza set up together going? Got lots of idiots to lock up their XPY for 15% paid for with another one of Homero's Prime controllers while you and him split the other 85%?? This also allows Josh and the other dirtbags with Paycoin Shitters to continue dumping with that much less competition. Have fun fucking over the people you pretend to be friends with on Hashtalk by conning them into locking coins into your scam for 15%/tear while Paycoin loses ~50% a month. When the shit really hits the fan, Homero will toss your pathetic wannabe scammer ass under the bus.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform:Click HERE to vote (https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login)

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.


Do you have evidence on what you are saying? Do you have evidence that Josh is part of BTCLend? Do you have evidence that the Prime that BTCLend is using a prime given by Josh?

Until then you my friend have been found guilty by Judge Polzin of being full of shit.

Yes, there is proof. There are Emails between Cmilian and Homero Josh Garza discussing using GAW develepors and GAW/Garza funding of BTClend. It is buried 100-200 pages back in the massive GAW scam thread. Thank for asking and I do encourage you and everyone else interested to have a look. The amount of information you will be exposed to while looking will be rather enlightening.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform:Click HERE to vote (https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login)

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.

Actually I am very familiar with this as I was actually going to be an investor of BTCLend, Didn't to it, wish I had. Homero gave 500 XPY to all businesses that where promoting XPY and by then CMILIAN had buildt XPY.WIKI BTClend was not know by then. I also know that Homero was going to invest, but did not. I am sure he probably wishes he did also. Lucky for BTCLend he didnt.

So again, Post the emails here where it says that Homero invested in BTCLend.

Then again, you are just full of $HIT, You can't even get the email that says that and like lawyers do, saying its buried in 200 pages of emails, LOL. What a joke. You can't even stand behind your BS with facts, you just talk out of your pie hole like a parrot. LOL !!!!


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Fargo on April 27, 2015, 03:58:23 PM
I hope legal action is taken against cryptsy as well. I know your only concern is profit.. but Knowing your customers is every companies responsibility.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Blazed on April 27, 2015, 03:59:29 PM
I voted destroy it and de-list XPY. No matter what that coin is tainted and needs to go away. Polls are not reliable so not sure the point in this.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: vancefox on April 27, 2015, 04:03:36 PM
I hope legal action is taken against cryptsy as well. I know your only concern is profit.. but Knowing your customers is every companies responsibility.

Only if you have that requirement, such as Cryptsy, FinCEN MSB registration # 31000028408333.

There are loopholes, such as only following those requirements with those who are dealing with FIAT deposits/withdrawals.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: JudgePolzin on April 27, 2015, 04:04:55 PM
The statement that delisting the coin will hurt "legitimate" bagholders is a bit of a fallacy.

First, there are other exchanges trading it (Mineral LOL) so it's not like the bagholders would have an issue getting rid of it. So why should Cryptsy put its reputation or whatever is left of it on the line. Let the shadier exchanges deal with it.

Second, for the existing bagholders to salvage their investment somebody has to be buying that coin. And it being listed on Cryptsy unfortunately might imply some sort of credibility to some customers. Again, why should Cryptsy be part of that and potentially enable new people to be drawn into this debacle.

There is probably a way to wind this down amicably, for example Cryptsy could label the coin with a gaudy warning and give it a few weeks before delisting.



Suchmoon, Another a$$whole who does not care about anyone but himself that refuses to lose the destroy XPY battle.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 04:07:02 PM
If we knew at the time that XPY would turn into such a catastrophe we would not have carried it.

Hilarious. Were you locked up in a dungeon for the last six months? 97% premined coin controlled by a pathological liar and owing its whole existence to a false "floor" promise somehow looked legit to you?

This is BS!
BitJohn how much have you made in XPY trade volume? At least 1million USD in profit i would say between fees and free stake.
Remember the massive volume XPY used to have when it was hot?

BITJOHN you are repulsive. You took that XPY commission first. And now, now that XPY is a has been you want to delist it.
Yeah, you are for the community.

I have never owned a single XPY. As far as how much Cryptsy made do the math its easy to see its far short of millions. We deal in fractions of each transaction and work on slim margins.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Paul Revere on April 27, 2015, 04:08:26 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote


Thanks for posting the Pool. You are correct, Delisting will only hurt only those who are already hurting and stilol have some hope on XPY getting somewhere. On top of that, those who want the coin delisted could care less for XPY holders. They have no stake in it. Its like voting for another countries government. They should have no say in what does not affect them.

They will say,its a scam, I hate GAW, Josh is the devil, etc etc. They need to understand that even if it was a coin originated via a scam. (I honestly think it was not a scam, I believe it was delivered by a dreamer without the means or the ability to execute.) It is already a crypto currency in the wild that although low still has a value.

My humble opinion. I will now logout of BCT, I do not enjoy bad language :)

I believe that delisting of a coin should be based on its demand as with any other coin. Not because of obvious hate campaigns.

Well, well, well, look what the cat dragged in, another one of Homero's Scamrats coming to help out another one of Homero's Scamrats. How is that BTClend scam you and Josh Garza set up together going? Got lots of idiots to lock up their XPY for 15% paid for with another one of Homero's Prime controllers while you and him split the other 85%?? This also allows Josh and the other dirtbags with Paycoin Shitters to continue dumping with that much less competition. Have fun fucking over the people you pretend to be friends with on Hashtalk by conning them into locking coins into your scam for 15%/tear while Paycoin loses ~50% a month. When the shit really hits the fan, Homero will toss your pathetic wannabe scammer ass under the bus.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform:Click HERE to vote (https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login)

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.


Do you have evidence on what you are saying? Do you have evidence that Josh is part of BTCLend? Do you have evidence that the Prime that BTCLend is using a prime given by Josh?

Until then you my friend have been found guilty by Judge Polzin of being full of shit.

Yes, there is proof. There are Emails between Cmilian and Homero Josh Garza discussing using GAW develepors and GAW/Garza funding of BTClend. It is buried 100-200 pages back in the massive GAW scam thread. Thank for asking and I do encourage you and everyone else interested to have a look. The amount of information you will be exposed to while looking will be rather enlightening.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform:Click HERE to vote (https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login)

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.

Actually I am very familiar with this as I was actually going to be an investor of BTCLend, Didn't to it, wish I had. Homero gave 500 XPY to all businesses that where promoting XPY and by then CMILIAN had buildt XPY.WIKI BTClend was not know by then. I also know that Homero was going to invest, but did not. I am sure he probably wishes he did also. Lucky for BTCLend he didnt.

So again, Post the emails here where it says that Homero invested in BTCLend.

Then again, you are just full of $HIT, You can't even get the email that says that and like lawyers do, saying its buried in 200 pages of emails, LOL. What a joke. You can't even stand behind your BS with facts, you just talk out of your pie hole like a parrot. LOL !!!!

Thank you for quoting this and drawing even more attention. Here is my reply: I am not your bitch. Dig yourself. Myself and everybody who actually cares to know are already quite aware of this. I personally posted those Emails between Garza and Carmello Milian, by the way, so I do not have to wonder. If you do not want to look, then don't. Fuck you. I don't care what you think.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform:Click HERE to vote (https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login)

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.

PLEASE, keep this conversation going, I will keep replying to make sure this gets top SEO status.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 04:10:15 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote


Thanks for posting the Pool. You are correct, Delisting will only hurt only those who are already hurting and stilol have some hope on XPY getting somewhere. On top of that, those who want the coin delisted could care less for XPY holders. They have no stake in it. Its like voting for another countries government. They should have no say in what does not affect them.

They will say,its a scam, I hate GAW, Josh is the devil, etc etc. They need to understand that even if it was a coin originated via a scam. (I honestly think it was not a scam, I believe it was delivered by a dreamer without the means or the ability to execute.) It is already a crypto currency in the wild that although low still has a value.

My humble opinion. I will now logout of BCT, I do not enjoy bad language :)

I believe that delisting of a coin should be based on its demand as with any other coin. Not because of obvious hate campaigns.

Well, well, well, look what the cat dragged in, another one of Homero's Scamrats coming to help out another one of Homero's Scamrats. How is that BTClend scam you and Josh Garza set up together going? Got lots of idiots to lock up their XPY for 15% paid for with another one of Homero's Prime controllers while you and him split the other 85%?? This also allows Josh and the other dirtbags with Paycoin Shitters to continue dumping with that much less competition. Have fun fucking over the people you pretend to be friends with on Hashtalk by conning them into locking coins into your scam for 15%/tear while Paycoin loses ~50% a month. When the shit really hits the fan, Homero will toss your pathetic wannabe scammer ass under the bus.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform:Click HERE to vote (https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login)

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.


Do you have evidence on what you are saying? Do you have evidence that Josh is part of BTCLend? Do you have evidence that the Prime that BTCLend is using a prime given by Josh?

Until then you my friend have been found guilty by Judge Polzin of being full of shit.

Yes, there is proof. There are Emails between Cmilian and Homero Josh Garza discussing using GAW develepors and GAW/Garza funding of BTClend. It is buried 100-200 pages back in the massive GAW scam thread. Thank for asking and I do encourage you and everyone else interested to have a look. The amount of information you will be exposed to while looking will be rather enlightening.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform:Click HERE to vote (https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login)

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.

Actually I am very familiar with this as I was actually going to be an investor of BTCLend, Didn't to it, wish I had. Homero gave 500 XPY to all businesses that where promoting XPY and by then CMILIAN had buildt XPY.WIKI BTClend was not know by then. I also know that Homero was going to invest, but did not. I am sure he probably wishes he did also. Lucky for BTCLend he didnt.

So again, Post the emails here where it says that Homero invested in BTCLend.

Then again, you are just full of $HIT, You can't even get the email that says that and like lawyers do, saying its buried in 200 pages of emails, LOL. What a joke. You can't even stand behind your BS with facts, you just talk out of your pie hole like a parrot. LOL !!!!

Thank you for quoting this and drawing even more attention. Here is my reply: I am not your bitch. Dig yourself. I and everybody who actually cares to know are already quite aware of this. I personally posted those Emails between Garza and Carmello Milian, by the way, so I do not have to wonder. If you do not want to look, then don't. Fuck you. I don't care what you think.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform:Click HERE to vote (https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login)

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.

PLEASE, keep this conversation going, I will keep replying to make sure this gets top SEO status.

You should add your referral key.... (joking) again we have nothing to hide so feel free to post your opinion.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: zenfur on April 27, 2015, 04:10:53 PM
If we knew at the time that XPY would turn into such a catastrophe we would not have carried it.

Hilarious. Were you locked up in a dungeon for the last six months? 97% premined coin controlled by a pathological liar and owing its whole existence to a false "floor" promise somehow looked legit to you?

This is BS!
BitJohn how much have you made in XPY trade volume? At least 1million USD in profit i would say between fees and free stake.
Remember the massive volume XPY used to have when it was hot?

BITJOHN you are repulsive. You took that XPY commission first. And now, now that XPY is a has been you want to delist it.
Yeah, you are for the community.

I have never owned a single XPY. As far as how much Cryptsy made do the math its easy to see its far short of millions. We deal in fractions of each transaction and work on slim margins.

What percentage did you take on all XPY trades commissions and fees? Volume on XPY was in the stratosphere. Crypsty traded tens of millions in BTC value when XPY was trading at $4 and above.

How much money did crypsty make on XPY?


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: NuShrike on April 27, 2015, 04:12:53 PM
  • Give a month? transition time for people to get out of XPY on Cryptsy to another coin as you've done previously (Saturn -> Saturn2, etc)
  • Audit the transition so that Garza-related cannot cash-out (probably not possible)
  • Delist XPY
  • Keep PC as BURN destination (while destroying stakes) and then destroy it after the community / bag-holders have transitioned off it.
  • Stop giving the XPY wallet so many regular hand-jobs when other alt-coins need it more.
 


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: JudgePolzin on April 27, 2015, 04:13:18 PM


Actually I am very familiar with this as I was actually going to be an investor of BTCLend, Didn't to it, wish I had. Homero gave 500 XPY to all businesses that where promoting XPY and by then CMILIAN had buildt XPY.WIKI BTClend was not know by then. I also know that Homero was going to invest, but did not. I am sure he probably wishes he did also. Lucky for BTCLend he didnt.

So again, Post the emails here where it says that Homero invested in BTCLend.

Then again, you are just full of $HIT, You can't even get the email that says that and like lawyers do, saying its buried in 200 pages of emails, LOL. What a joke. You can't even stand behind your BS with facts, you just talk out of your pie hole like a parrot. LOL !!!!
[/quote]

Thank you for quoting this and drawing even more attention. Here is my reply: I am not your bitch. Dig yourself. Myself and everybody who actually cares to know are already quite aware of this. I personally posted those Emails between Garza and Carmello Milian, by the way, so I do not have to wonder. If you do not want to look, then don't. Fuck you. I don't care what you think.



LOL !!!!
I just looked, you posted emails about chit chat between them that had nothing to do with BTCLend.

You made me laugh so hard that you made spill my coffee! You owe me a new keyboard you bastard!


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: suchmoon on April 27, 2015, 04:13:44 PM
The statement that delisting the coin will hurt "legitimate" bagholders is a bit of a fallacy.

First, there are other exchanges trading it (Mineral LOL) so it's not like the bagholders would have an issue getting rid of it. So why should Cryptsy put its reputation or whatever is left of it on the line. Let the shadier exchanges deal with it.

Second, for the existing bagholders to salvage their investment somebody has to be buying that coin. And it being listed on Cryptsy unfortunately might imply some sort of credibility to some customers. Again, why should Cryptsy be part of that and potentially enable new people to be drawn into this debacle.

There is probably a way to wind this down amicably, for example Cryptsy could label the coin with a gaudy warning and give it a few weeks before delisting.


Suchmoon, Another a$$whole who does not care about anyone but himself that refuses to lose the destroy XPY battle.

You might want to re-read what I posted. Nowhere did I mention destroying XPY nor could I possibly do that even if I wanted. As long as you have a working wallet the coin will be alive.

The question is do you want new muggles to be dragged into this. You seem to want that. I don't.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: miaviator on April 27, 2015, 04:14:30 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote




Leaving the poll open to the general public will allow and possibly encourage tampering with votes.

As an exchange you have a customer base with logins, accounts, levels of verification.

Wouldn't more accurate results be achieved by cutting off the primary avenues of false votes?  Unless you are not looking for accurate results?  


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Paul Revere on April 27, 2015, 04:18:32 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote




Leaving the poll open to the general public will allow and possibly encourage tampering with votes.

As an exchange you have a customer base with logins, accounts, levels of verification.

Wouldn't more accurate results be achieved by cutting off the primary avenues of false votes?  Unless you are not looking for accurate results?  

One thing worthy of note: Josh Garza has dozen's of accounts on Cryptsy. That alone would skew the voting results. I am thinking Joshy would vote for having Cryptsy keep the Paycoin Shitter that will be paying a large amount directly to him. He even gets "clean" XPY that way without having to go through the time and trouble of having his bots wash them through all of his Cryptsy accounts.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform:Click HERE to vote (https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login)

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: favdesu on April 27, 2015, 04:19:30 PM
-snip-

spamming the same link over will most likely degrade the SEO rank of the link. just saying

edit: GAW shills found their way to this voting.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: JudgePolzin on April 27, 2015, 04:20:48 PM
The statement that delisting the coin will hurt "legitimate" bagholders is a bit of a fallacy.

First, there are other exchanges trading it (Mineral LOL) so it's not like the bagholders would have an issue getting rid of it. So why should Cryptsy put its reputation or whatever is left of it on the line. Let the shadier exchanges deal with it.

Second, for the existing bagholders to salvage their investment somebody has to be buying that coin. And it being listed on Cryptsy unfortunately might imply some sort of credibility to some customers. Again, why should Cryptsy be part of that and potentially enable new people to be drawn into this debacle.

There is probably a way to wind this down amicably, for example Cryptsy could label the coin with a gaudy warning and give it a few weeks before delisting.


Suchmoon, Another a$$whole who does not care about anyone but himself that refuses to lose the destroy XPY battle.

You might want to re-read what I posted. Nowhere did I mention destroying XPY nor could I possibly do that even if I wanted. As long as you have a working wallet the coin will be alive.

The question is do you want new muggles to be dragged into this. You seem to want that. I don't.

I think every business should make their own decision based of whats best for their business. This Poll was made by Cryptsy to accommodate A$$holes who are bad customers anyways. Like Paul Revere's attempt to boycott them.

Crypsy should not empower these assholes or they will have the power from there on. Just as the North Korea threats for a damn movie.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Paul Revere on April 27, 2015, 04:27:19 PM
-snip-

spamming the same link over will most likely degrade the SEO rank of the link. just saying

Ahh, I bet you are right. I guess pointing out collusion between Homero Joshua Garza, the guy described in this quote:

Quote
That guy is a Scam Muggle. A short muggle starting with the online handle josg21 to, allegedly, ■■■■■ about boob jobs (plastic surgeons) and poor service Mr Homero Garza has since changed to the handle GAWCEO. A while later after tainting the handle GAWCEO a change was made to MrCEO and minerorigin which exist in parralel. In order to, allegedly, attempt confusion over his real name Homero Joshua Garza uses his middle name and mixes up aliases so he is commonly known as Josh Garza or Joshua Garza. On several patents held with Mr. Stuart Fraser Vice Chairman of Cantor Fitzgerald, Garza uses H. Joshua Garza as apposed to H. Josh Garza. Varios internet Trolls and FUDsters refer to him as Homero Garza or Homero Josh Garza or just Mr. Scam Muggle. Mr Garza, allegedly, started his entreprenuership with Optima Computers LLC in Brattleborough Vermont (VT) where he then branched out into the, alleged, oversubscription of Broadband service with his company Great Awk Wireless also called GAW High Speed Internet and shortened to GAW HSI. Having claimed to make millions with this service or sale of the company or something, Mr Garza then went on to the cryptocurrency industry where he, allegedly, applied the same oversubscription techniques to ASIC Mining with his platforms ZenMiner and ZenCloud selling virtual products called the Hashlet and Hashtaker. Sometimes referred to as CashLets, CashTakers and Ponsi's. Through the puported success of said platforms under a conglomerate of companies called Geniuses at Work or GAW for short Mr Garza, allegedly, moved on from GAW Miners LLC to a new company which should have provided a clean slate. Business Technology for Cryptocurrency LLC or BTC LLC for short which matches the domain name BTC.com puportedly purchased for 1.1 Million USD, was born. This company launched several platforms such as PayBase at Paybase.com and paycoin known as XPY. The PayBase platform allegedly destroyed the products PayFlash (gyft) PaySave (zincsave) as well as others. The Paycoin "Currency" allegedly destroyed the concepts of HybridFlex, FundSafe, Huh. After much public scrutiny Mr Homero Joshua Garza married to Jessica Garza then set out to not own the platforms Coinstand at coinstand.com (which used an, allegedly, embezzled codebase called zincsave to purchase from Amazon violating the ToS) and mineral at mineral.com (which used an, allegedly, embezzled codebase called coin-swap). These new ventures were puportedly related to Hong-Kong, hong kong, while rumor persists of Dubai being the real location. In short Scam Muggles be commitin' fraud and Scammin' Muggles.

and Cryptsy would be better . I personally think that the entire concept of an exchange being involved this deeply with an obvious scam is an afront to the entire Crypto Community.

The best way to cast a vote against this ridiculous conflict of interest , that may very well also be criminal, would be to remove ALL coins from Cryptsy. Fuck em. There is no shortage of shitcoin exchanges.

Here is where to cast your vote:Click HERE to vote (https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login)

To show support for decency in the Crypto World, pull ALL coins from Cryptsy.

If you like the people in charge of your coins and your personal financial information to be directly involved in the largest Shitcoin Scam ever (Paycoin XPY), then keep your coins there.






Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: JudgePolzin on April 27, 2015, 04:29:20 PM
Paul Revere, what a joke!


If you like the people in charge of your coins and your personal financial information to be directly involved in the largest Shitcoin Scam ever (Paycoin XPY), then keep your coins there.





[/quote]

LOL !!!! I think trading volume is going higher. You are bringing more customers to Cryptsy!!!



Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: jpass022 on April 27, 2015, 04:31:53 PM
Isn't this kinda like a store asking Pepsi if they want them to stop selling Coke?


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: JudgePolzin on April 27, 2015, 04:37:11 PM
Exactly,

Paul Revere's credibility is in the gutter, he started with some facts, but then when on to talk out of his A$$ to try and damage Cryptsy because they do not follow his pitch fork.

LOL !!!! What a tool.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Paul Revere on April 27, 2015, 04:40:13 PM
Paul Revere, what a joke!


If you like the people in charge of your coins and your personal financial information to be directly involved in the largest Shitcoin Scam ever (Paycoin XPY), then keep your coins there.

LOL !!!! I think trading volume is going higher. You are bringing more customers to Cryptsy!!!
[/quote]

Thank you for replying. I am confident in my actions, but you are free to believe whatever you like. Enjoy. I guess pointing out collusion between Homero Joshua Garza, the guy described in this quote:

Quote
That guy is a Scam Muggle. A short muggle starting with the online handle josg21 to, allegedly, ■■■■■ about boob jobs (plastic surgeons) and poor service Mr Homero Garza has since changed to the handle GAWCEO. A while later after tainting the handle GAWCEO a change was made to MrCEO and minerorigin which exist in parralel. In order to, allegedly, attempt confusion over his real name Homero Joshua Garza uses his middle name and mixes up aliases so he is commonly known as Josh Garza or Joshua Garza. On several patents held with Mr. Stuart Fraser Vice Chairman of Cantor Fitzgerald, Garza uses H. Joshua Garza as apposed to H. Josh Garza. Varios internet Trolls and FUDsters refer to him as Homero Garza or Homero Josh Garza or just Mr. Scam Muggle. Mr Garza, allegedly, started his entreprenuership with Optima Computers LLC in Brattleborough Vermont (VT) where he then branched out into the, alleged, oversubscription of Broadband service with his company Great Awk Wireless also called GAW High Speed Internet and shortened to GAW HSI. Having claimed to make millions with this service or sale of the company or something, Mr Garza then went on to the cryptocurrency industry where he, allegedly, applied the same oversubscription techniques to ASIC Mining with his platforms ZenMiner and ZenCloud selling virtual products called the Hashlet and Hashtaker. Sometimes referred to as CashLets, CashTakers and Ponsi's. Through the puported success of said platforms under a conglomerate of companies called Geniuses at Work or GAW for short Mr Garza, allegedly, moved on from GAW Miners LLC to a new company which should have provided a clean slate. Business Technology for Cryptocurrency LLC or BTC LLC for short which matches the domain name BTC.com puportedly purchased for 1.1 Million USD, was born. This company launched several platforms such as PayBase at Paybase.com and paycoin known as XPY. The PayBase platform allegedly destroyed the products PayFlash (gyft) PaySave (zincsave) as well as others. The Paycoin "Currency" allegedly destroyed the concepts of HybridFlex, FundSafe, Huh. After much public scrutiny Mr Homero Joshua Garza married to Jessica Garza then set out to not own the platforms Coinstand at coinstand.com (which used an, allegedly, embezzled codebase called zincsave to purchase from Amazon violating the ToS) and mineral at mineral.com (which used an, allegedly, embezzled codebase called coin-swap). These new ventures were puportedly related to Hong-Kong, hong kong, while rumor persists of Dubai being the real location. In short Scam Muggles be commitin' fraud and Scammin' Muggles. In leaked Emails Josh Garza outlined plans to include Cryptsy in his Paycoin Scam by trading shares in GAW and Cryptsy

and Cryptsy is not sufficient for you. I personally think that the entire concept of an exchange being involved this deeply with an obvious scam is an afront to the entire Crypto Community.

The best way to cast a vote against this ridiculous conflict of interest , that may very well also be criminal, would be to remove ALL coins from Cryptsy. Fuck em. There is no shortage of shitcoin exchanges.

Here is where to cast your vote:Click HERE to vote (https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login)

To show support for decency in the Crypto World, pull ALL coins from Cryptsy.

If you like the people in charge of your coins and your personal financial information to be directly involved in the largest Shitcoin Scam ever (Paycoin XPY), then keep your coins there.








Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: suchmoon on April 27, 2015, 04:40:36 PM
Isn't this kinda like a store asking Pepsi if they want them to stop selling Coke?

Hashtalk members can vote too.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: ReydeApio on April 27, 2015, 04:54:44 PM
Distro the PC stake and let the free markets sort themselves out. Those shadow-banning-forum fascists can use some hope.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: vancefox on April 27, 2015, 05:00:17 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote




Leaving the poll open to the general public will allow and possibly encourage tampering with votes.

As an exchange you have a customer base with logins, accounts, levels of verification.

Wouldn't more accurate results be achieved by cutting off the primary avenues of false votes?  Unless you are not looking for accurate results?  

Not if there is a certain person who has multiple accounts...


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Paul Revere on April 27, 2015, 05:16:26 PM
I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote




Leaving the poll open to the general public will allow and possibly encourage tampering with votes.

As an exchange you have a customer base with logins, accounts, levels of verification.

Wouldn't more accurate results be achieved by cutting off the primary avenues of false votes?  Unless you are not looking for accurate results?  

Not if there is a certain person who has multiple accounts...
https://i.imgflip.com/kqbgq.jpg

I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote




Leaving the poll open to the general public will allow and possibly encourage tampering with votes.

As an exchange you have a customer base with logins, accounts, levels of verification.

Wouldn't more accurate results be achieved by cutting off the primary avenues of false votes?  Unless you are not looking for accurate results?   

One thing worthy of note: Josh Garza has dozen's of accounts on Cryptsy. That alone would skew the voting results. I am thinking Joshy would vote for having Cryptsy keep the Paycoin Shitter that will be paying a large amount directly to him. He even gets "clean" XPY that way without having to go through the time and trouble of having his bots wash them through all of his Cryptsy accounts.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform:Click HERE to vote (https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login)

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: JudgePolzin on April 27, 2015, 05:20:58 PM

Paul Revere, what a joke!





Everyone know he is a Scammer and a Scum. Thats not the point. XPY has a life of its own, you have no right to try and kill the coin as no one has the right with any other coin. BTC is a scam coin. No one even know the creator, and he holds a big chunk. Ain't that a scam? where is your campaign against BTC?


You may have kids, if you actually ever find a mate. That does not mean that they will be a$$holes.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: suchmoon on April 27, 2015, 05:25:11 PM
Everyone know he is a Scammer and a Scum. Thats not the point. XPY has a life of its own, you have no right to try and kill the coin as no one has the right with any other coin. BTC is a scam coin. No one even know the creator, and he holds a big chunk. Ain't that a scam? where is your campaign against BTC?

Learn to quote. And if XPY has a life of its own then it won't be killed by what anybody says about it. Download the wallet, run it, there's your Paycoin network.

But you can't force everybody to love it and you can't prevent Paul Revere from campaigning against it. Deal with it.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Paul Revere on April 27, 2015, 05:27:27 PM

Paul Revere, what a joke!


Everyone know he is a Scammer and a Scum. Thats not the point. XPY has a life of its own, you have no right to try and kill the coin as no one has the right with any other coin. BTC is a scam coin. No one even know the creator, and he holds a big chunk. Ain't that a scam? where is your campaign against BTC?

You simply do not get it. I don't care what you or any other worthless Scam Shill thinks. In fact, if you tell me you hate me, it lets me know that I am on the right track. I explained my thoughts about Cryptsy being involved directly with the Paycoin Scam thus:

I am taking a poll to decide the fate of the Cryptsy Prime Controller. Why a poll? Because though a few outspoken forum members wish us to destroy it we would like to be sure that the majority feel this should be the fate.

Some members felt that we should also de-list the coin due to Mr Garza's involvement. At this point it is my opinion that the only people affected by such a move would be the current stakeholders who would lose a large amount of value in their holdings. So at this time a de-listing is unlikely.

To reiterate the only dealings Cryptsy has had with Mr Garza was as a customer. There was no formal relationship. I can assure you all legal steps taken in regard to that situation have been taken. Most of you realize we cannot release more information than that for legal reasons.

We will leave the poll up for a week or two. Thanks for your participation.

Click Here (http://www.poll-maker.com/poll303956xa353426B-11)to vote




Leaving the poll open to the general public will allow and possibly encourage tampering with votes.

As an exchange you have a customer base with logins, accounts, levels of verification.

Wouldn't more accurate results be achieved by cutting off the primary avenues of false votes?  Unless you are not looking for accurate results?  

One thing worthy of note: Josh Garza has dozen's of accounts on Cryptsy. That alone would skew the voting results. I am thinking Joshy would vote for having Cryptsy keep the Paycoin Shitter that will be paying a large amount directly to him. He even gets "clean" XPY that way without having to go through the time and trouble of having his bots wash them through all of his Cryptsy accounts.

AGAIN: The only vote that matters is having coins on Cryptsy.

Here is the actual voting platform:Click HERE to vote (https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login)

If you do not support open collusion between the biggest shitcoin scam ever and Cryptsy, pull ALL coins.

If you do support such brazen scammery, leave them. Eventually you will get what you deserve.

https://i.imgflip.com/kqbgq.jpg

Thank you again, moron scam shill!


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: JudgePolzin on April 27, 2015, 05:33:28 PM
Everyone know he is a Scammer and a Scum. Thats not the point. XPY has a life of its own, you have no right to try and kill the coin as no one has the right with any other coin. BTC is a scam coin. No one even know the creator, and he holds a big chunk. Ain't that a scam? where is your campaign against BTC?

Learn to quote. And if XPY has a life of its own then it won't be killed by what anybody says about it. Download the wallet, run it, there's your Paycoin network.

But you can't force everybody to love it and you can't prevent Paul Revere from campaigning against it. Deal with it.

Exactly, XPY has the right to be where any other altcoin is. Also, Paul Revere is an A$$hole. He can do as he likes. And therefore I can also keep calling him out for what he is. An a$$whole scammer with an agenda that only kids afraid of him follow.

Like in Biblical times when people where throwing rocks. (Actually a practice that still happening in the middle east)
He throws the fisrt one all the others follow for fear of being accused also.  


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Xian01 on April 27, 2015, 05:37:38 PM
Release the shills ! What an amazing shit-show this has become.

I am Jacks complete lack of surprise.

https://i.imgur.com/4sVaRAO.png


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Paul Revere on April 27, 2015, 05:39:28 PM
Everyone know he is a Scammer and a Scum. Thats not the point. XPY has a life of its own, you have no right to try and kill the coin as no one has the right with any other coin. BTC is a scam coin. No one even know the creator, and he holds a big chunk. Ain't that a scam? where is your campaign against BTC?

Learn to quote. And if XPY has a life of its own then it won't be killed by what anybody says about it. Download the wallet, run it, there's your Paycoin network.

But you can't force everybody to love it and you can't prevent Paul Revere from campaigning against it. Deal with it.

Exactly, XPY has the right to be where any other altcoin is. Also, Paul Revere is an A$$hole. He can do as he likes. And therefore I can also keep calling him out for what he is. An a$$whole scammer with an agenda that only kids afraid of him follow.

Like in Biblical times when people where throwing rocks. (Actually a practice that still happening in the middle east)
He throws the fisrt one all the others follow for fear of being accused also.  

https://i.imgflip.com/kqcn3.jpg

I think I explained my position quite well in this post:
-snip-

spamming the same link over will most likely degrade the SEO rank of the link. just saying

Ahh, I bet you are right. I guess pointing out collusion between Homero Joshua Garza, the guy described in this quote:

Quote
That guy is a Scam Muggle. A short muggle starting with the online handle josg21 to, allegedly, ■■■■■ about boob jobs (plastic surgeons) and poor service Mr Homero Garza has since changed to the handle GAWCEO. A while later after tainting the handle GAWCEO a change was made to MrCEO and minerorigin which exist in parralel. In order to, allegedly, attempt confusion over his real name Homero Joshua Garza uses his middle name and mixes up aliases so he is commonly known as Josh Garza or Joshua Garza. On several patents held with Mr. Stuart Fraser Vice Chairman of Cantor Fitzgerald, Garza uses H. Joshua Garza as apposed to H. Josh Garza. Varios internet Trolls and FUDsters refer to him as Homero Garza or Homero Josh Garza or just Mr. Scam Muggle. Mr Garza, allegedly, started his entreprenuership with Optima Computers LLC in Brattleborough Vermont (VT) where he then branched out into the, alleged, oversubscription of Broadband service with his company Great Awk Wireless also called GAW High Speed Internet and shortened to GAW HSI. Having claimed to make millions with this service or sale of the company or something, Mr Garza then went on to the cryptocurrency industry where he, allegedly, applied the same oversubscription techniques to ASIC Mining with his platforms ZenMiner and ZenCloud selling virtual products called the Hashlet and Hashtaker. Sometimes referred to as CashLets, CashTakers and Ponsi's. Through the puported success of said platforms under a conglomerate of companies called Geniuses at Work or GAW for short Mr Garza, allegedly, moved on from GAW Miners LLC to a new company which should have provided a clean slate. Business Technology for Cryptocurrency LLC or BTC LLC for short which matches the domain name BTC.com puportedly purchased for 1.1 Million USD, was born. This company launched several platforms such as PayBase at Paybase.com and paycoin known as XPY. The PayBase platform allegedly destroyed the products PayFlash (gyft) PaySave (zincsave) as well as others. The Paycoin "Currency" allegedly destroyed the concepts of HybridFlex, FundSafe, Huh. After much public scrutiny Mr Homero Joshua Garza married to Jessica Garza then set out to not own the platforms Coinstand at coinstand.com (which used an, allegedly, embezzled codebase called zincsave to purchase from Amazon violating the ToS) and mineral at mineral.com (which used an, allegedly, embezzled codebase called coin-swap). These new ventures were puportedly related to Hong-Kong, hong kong, while rumor persists of Dubai being the real location. In short Scam Muggles be commitin' fraud and Scammin' Muggles.

and Cryptsy would be better . I personally think that the entire concept of an exchange being involved this deeply with an obvious scam is an afront to the entire Crypto Community.

The best way to cast a vote against this ridiculous conflict of interest , that may very well also be criminal, would be to remove ALL coins from Cryptsy. Fuck em. There is no shortage of shitcoin exchanges.

Here is where to cast your vote:Click HERE to vote (https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login)

To show support for decency in the Crypto World, pull ALL coins from Cryptsy.

If you like the people in charge of your coins and your personal financial information to be directly involved in the largest Shitcoin Scam ever (Paycoin XPY), then keep your coins there.

Thank you again, and have yourself a scammy day, Carmelo!


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 27, 2015, 05:40:17 PM
Release the shills ! What an amazing shit-show this has become.

I am Jacks complete lack of surprise.

https://i.imgur.com/4sVaRAO.png

To clarify the other votes for the most part are votes for destroy. So you can add those to that


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Xian01 on April 27, 2015, 05:44:11 PM
To clarify the other votes for the most part are votes for destroy. So you can add those to that
Dude, you still don't get it...

/me munches on some popcorn and returns to watching "As The Cryptsy Turns"



https://puu.sh/hocRt/d8647f406f.png

Hashlet Release Lies, Bait and Switch
https://archive.is/rkEak
https://hashtalk.org/topic/1963/hashlet-mining-has-finally-evolved
"GAW Miners has sold more ASIC miners than any other provider in the world."
"maintenance fees that actually decline over time."
"there will never be a time a Hashlet cost more to run then you make, and they will always make money."
"Later tonight we will release global chat, leaderboards, and the ability to use your zencoins for maintenance! :)"

LIE: "We will only sell 500 RememberHashlets, at the current ZenHashet prices, this will put them just over $10,000 in total sales income"
Image: http://puu.sh/hghsZ/f931b3c236.png Link: https://hashtalk.org/topic/5725/500-rememberhashlets Archive: https://archive.today/PSBV2
LIE "GAW will donate 100% of the sales money to the 911 memorial fund."
Image: http://puu.sh/hghsZ/f931b3c236.png Link: https://hashtalk.org/topic/5725/500-rememberhashlets Archive: https://archive.today/PSBV2
LIE: "GAW will in no way be profiting from any sales related to the cause."
Image: http://puu.sh/hghsZ/f931b3c236.png Link: https://hashtalk.org/topic/5725/500-rememberhashlets Archive: https://archive.today/PSBV2
LIE: GAW will not premine PayCoin "No premine, we'll mine for our coins just like everyone else”
Image: https://i.imgur.com/mIHqTP1.png Link: https://twitter.com/gawceo/status/532173907718332417  Archive: https://archive.is/li9oN
LIE: "Primes will mine at 40GH when you switch them to SHA” EDIT: "Primes will be able to mine SHA next week."
Image: https://i.imgur.com/TBKUIUU.png Link: https://hashtalk.org/topic/3906/prime-sha-hashlets/3 Archive: https://archive.is/rHC0p

All proceeds from sales of Remember 9/11 hashlets will be donated to 9/11 Memorial Fund - LIE
No premine, we'll mine for our coins just like everyone else" - lie
Hashlets will "Never expire and always be profitable" - lie
Valutbreakers - lie
Prime Hashlets will be able to mine SHA-256 - lie
Prime Hashlets will be the only ones mining XPY PoW phase - lie
HashBase - lie
AmpStore is coming soon - lie
Hybrid-thermal-rubber-rabbit-flux-chain BTC2 capabilities - lie
Orion nodes with higher payouts - lie
Paybase debit card - lie
Paybase Amazon, WallMart and co - lie
Paybase BillPay - lie
Paybase thousands of merchants on board - lie
XPY $20 floor - lie
World leading coin development team hired - lie
CAF (Coin Adoption Fund) - lie
$100 Million Fiat reserve - lie
We're moving the market - lie
GAW "bought" BTC.com for $1 Million dollar - lie
GAW bought ZenCloud for $8 Million dollar - lie
We'll destroy all the test coins once we've finished debugging - lie
premier accounts on paybase will go out in a week - lie
hundreds of coinstand invites are going out in the next few hours - lie
Honor program will buy back coins at 20$ - lie
Prime Hashlets will no longer be sold after a certain date - lie
Paybase is here to stay - lie
Thousands of coinstand invites are going out this week - lie
GAW is not dumping any XPY on exchanges - lie
Remember Legendarys limited to 500 - LIE
Vegas Legendarys only given to those attending Vegas - LIE
Vegas Legendarys will be the rarest of Legendarys - LIE
Holloween legendarys will be able to combine into something special - LIE
Staker Legendarys will only be limited to 100 - LIE
all Legendarys converted to Stakers will keep their Legendary status - LIE
all legendarys converted to Stakers will get extra abilities - LIE
Coinstand is a large merchant that will value paycoin at $20 - LIE


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Paul Revere on April 27, 2015, 05:49:47 PM
Release the shills ! What an amazing shit-show this has become.

I am Jacks complete lack of surprise.

https://i.imgur.com/4sVaRAO.png

To clarify the other votes for the most part are votes for destroy. So you can add those to that

Fuck you and your contrived "vote". The only thing being accomplished here is that you are painting both yourself and Cryptsy with the same brush as the Scamdog Homero, described here:

Quote
That guy is a Scam Muggle. A short muggle starting with the online handle josg21 to, allegedly, ■■■■■ about boob jobs (plastic surgeons) and poor service Mr Homero Garza has since changed to the handle GAWCEO. A while later after tainting the handle GAWCEO a change was made to MrCEO and minerorigin which exist in parralel. In order to, allegedly, attempt confusion over his real name Homero Joshua Garza uses his middle name and mixes up aliases so he is commonly known as Josh Garza or Joshua Garza. On several patents held with Mr. Stuart Fraser Vice Chairman of Cantor Fitzgerald, Garza uses H. Joshua Garza as apposed to H. Josh Garza. Varios internet Trolls and FUDsters refer to him as Homero Garza or Homero Josh Garza or just Mr. Scam Muggle. Mr Garza, allegedly, started his entreprenuership with Optima Computers LLC in Brattleborough Vermont (VT) where he then branched out into the, alleged, oversubscription of Broadband service with his company Great Awk Wireless also called GAW High Speed Internet and shortened to GAW HSI. Having claimed to make millions with this service or sale of the company or something, Mr Garza then went on to the cryptocurrency industry where he, allegedly, applied the same oversubscription techniques to ASIC Mining with his platforms ZenMiner and ZenCloud selling virtual products called the Hashlet and Hashtaker. Sometimes referred to as CashLets, CashTakers and Ponsi's. Through the puported success of said platforms under a conglomerate of companies called Geniuses at Work or GAW for short Mr Garza, allegedly, moved on from GAW Miners LLC to a new company which should have provided a clean slate. Business Technology for Cryptocurrency LLC or BTC LLC for short which matches the domain name BTC.com puportedly purchased for 1.1 Million USD, was born. This company launched several platforms such as PayBase at Paybase.com and paycoin known as XPY. The PayBase platform allegedly destroyed the products PayFlash (gyft) PaySave (zincsave) as well as others. The Paycoin "Currency" allegedly destroyed the concepts of HybridFlex, FundSafe, Huh. After much public scrutiny Mr Homero Joshua Garza married to Jessica Garza then set out to not own the platforms Coinstand at coinstand.com (which used an, allegedly, embezzled codebase called zincsave to purchase from Amazon violating the ToS) and mineral at mineral.com (which used an, allegedly, embezzled codebase called coin-swap). These new ventures were puportedly related to Hong-Kong, hong kong, while rumor persists of Dubai being the real location. In short Scam Muggles be commitin' fraud and Scammin' Muggles.

I personally think that the entire concept of an exchange being involved this deeply with an obvious scam is an afront to the entire Crypto Community. Having a "vote" to decide whether they are going to openly and actively take part in the massive fraud scheme known as Paycoin is a fucking insult to anyone with more than one braincell and an ounce of integrity.

The best way to cast a vote against this ridiculous conflict of interest , that may very well also be criminal, would be to remove ALL coins from Cryptsy. Fuck em. There is no shortage of shitcoin exchanges.

Here is where to cast your vote:Click HERE to vote (https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login)

To show support for decency in the Crypto World, pull ALL coins from Cryptsy.

If you like the people in charge of your coins and your personal financial information to be directly involved in the largest Shitcoin Scam ever (Paycoin XPY), then keep your coins there.

How many times did Homero "vote" to have Cryptsy launder Paycoins for him?

https://i.imgflip.com/kqbgq.jpg



Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: JudgePolzin on April 27, 2015, 05:50:54 PM
Everyone know he is a Scammer and a Scum. Thats not the point. XPY has a life of its own, you have no right to try and kill the coin as no one has the right with any other coin. BTC is a scam coin. No one even know the creator, and he holds a big chunk. Ain't that a scam? where is your campaign against BTC?

Learn to quote. And if XPY has a life of its own then it won't be killed by what anybody says about it. Download the wallet, run it, there's your Paycoin network.

But you can't force everybody to love it and you can't prevent Paul Revere from campaigning against it. Deal with it.

Exactly, XPY has the right to be where any other altcoin is. Also, Paul Revere is an A$$hole. He can do as he likes. And therefore I can also keep calling him out for what he is. An a$$whole scammer with an agenda that only kids afraid of him follow.

Like in Biblical times when people where throwing rocks. (Actually a practice that still happening in the middle east)
He throws the fisrt one all the others follow for fear of being accused also.  

https://i.imgflip.com/kqcn3.jpg

I think I explained my position quite well in this post:
-snip-

spamming the same link over will most likely degrade the SEO rank of the link. just saying

Ahh, I bet you are right. I guess pointing out collusion between Homero Joshua Garza, the guy described in this quote:

Quote
That guy is a Scam Muggle. A short muggle starting with the online handle josg21 to, allegedly, ■■■■■ about boob jobs (plastic surgeons) and poor service Mr Homero Garza has since changed to the handle GAWCEO. A while later after tainting the handle GAWCEO a change was made to MrCEO and minerorigin which exist in parralel. In order to, allegedly, attempt confusion over his real name Homero Joshua Garza uses his middle name and mixes up aliases so he is commonly known as Josh Garza or Joshua Garza. On several patents held with Mr. Stuart Fraser Vice Chairman of Cantor Fitzgerald, Garza uses H. Joshua Garza as apposed to H. Josh Garza. Varios internet Trolls and FUDsters refer to him as Homero Garza or Homero Josh Garza or just Mr. Scam Muggle. Mr Garza, allegedly, started his entreprenuership with Optima Computers LLC in Brattleborough Vermont (VT) where he then branched out into the, alleged, oversubscription of Broadband service with his company Great Awk Wireless also called GAW High Speed Internet and shortened to GAW HSI. Having claimed to make millions with this service or sale of the company or something, Mr Garza then went on to the cryptocurrency industry where he, allegedly, applied the same oversubscription techniques to ASIC Mining with his platforms ZenMiner and ZenCloud selling virtual products called the Hashlet and Hashtaker. Sometimes referred to as CashLets, CashTakers and Ponsi's. Through the puported success of said platforms under a conglomerate of companies called Geniuses at Work or GAW for short Mr Garza, allegedly, moved on from GAW Miners LLC to a new company which should have provided a clean slate. Business Technology for Cryptocurrency LLC or BTC LLC for short which matches the domain name BTC.com puportedly purchased for 1.1 Million USD, was born. This company launched several platforms such as PayBase at Paybase.com and paycoin known as XPY. The PayBase platform allegedly destroyed the products PayFlash (gyft) PaySave (zincsave) as well as others. The Paycoin "Currency" allegedly destroyed the concepts of HybridFlex, FundSafe, Huh. After much public scrutiny Mr Homero Joshua Garza married to Jessica Garza then set out to not own the platforms Coinstand at coinstand.com (which used an, allegedly, embezzled codebase called zincsave to purchase from Amazon violating the ToS) and mineral at mineral.com (which used an, allegedly, embezzled codebase called coin-swap). These new ventures were puportedly related to Hong-Kong, hong kong, while rumor persists of Dubai being the real location. In short Scam Muggles be commitin' fraud and Scammin' Muggles.

and Cryptsy would be better . I personally think that the entire concept of an exchange being involved this deeply with an obvious scam is an afront to the entire Crypto Community.

The best way to cast a vote against this ridiculous conflict of interest , that may very well also be criminal, would be to remove ALL coins from Cryptsy. Fuck em. There is no shortage of shitcoin exchanges.

Here is where to cast your vote:Click HERE to vote (https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login)

To show support for decency in the Crypto World, pull ALL coins from Cryptsy.

If you like the people in charge of your coins and your personal financial information to be directly involved in the largest Shitcoin Scam ever (Paycoin XPY), then keep your coins there.

Thank you again, and have yourself a scammy day, Carmelo!

hahahahahahaha LOL !!! Now you are playing guessing games? Tell you what, I tell you who I am is you tell everyone who you are.
And no, Not Carmello, I have nothing good or bad to say about the fellow. Just dont call me Homero or Paul and I wont find you and bitch slap you.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Xian01 on April 27, 2015, 05:52:58 PM
hahahahahahaha LOL !!! Now you are playing guessing games? Tell you what, I tell you who I am is you tell everyone who you are.
And no, Not Carmello, I have nothing good or bad to say about the fellow. Just dont call me Homero or Paul and I wont find you and bitch slap you.
... speaking of shills.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: ThePointlessOne on April 27, 2015, 05:55:52 PM
Why does this "Poll" allow you to vote multiple times? Is it unlimited voting? 

Failed polling = failed consensus.

Destroy & De-list.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Paul Revere on April 27, 2015, 05:57:34 PM
Everyone know he is a Scammer and a Scum. Thats not the point. XPY has a life of its own, you have no right to try and kill the coin as no one has the right with any other coin. BTC is a scam coin. No one even know the creator, and he holds a big chunk. Ain't that a scam? where is your campaign against BTC?

Learn to quote. And if XPY has a life of its own then it won't be killed by what anybody says about it. Download the wallet, run it, there's your Paycoin network.

But you can't force everybody to love it and you can't prevent Paul Revere from campaigning against it. Deal with it.

Exactly, XPY has the right to be where any other altcoin is. Also, Paul Revere is an A$$hole. He can do as he likes. And therefore I can also keep calling him out for what he is. An a$$whole scammer with an agenda that only kids afraid of him follow.

Like in Biblical times when people where throwing rocks. (Actually a practice that still happening in the middle east)
He throws the fisrt one all the others follow for fear of being accused also.  

https://i.imgflip.com/kqcn3.jpg

I think I explained my position quite well in this post:
-snip-

spamming the same link over will most likely degrade the SEO rank of the link. just saying

Ahh, I bet you are right. I guess pointing out collusion between Homero Joshua Garza, the guy described in this quote:

Quote
That guy is a Scam Muggle. A short muggle starting with the online handle josg21 to, allegedly, ■■■■■ about boob jobs (plastic surgeons) and poor service Mr Homero Garza has since changed to the handle GAWCEO. A while later after tainting the handle GAWCEO a change was made to MrCEO and minerorigin which exist in parralel. In order to, allegedly, attempt confusion over his real name Homero Joshua Garza uses his middle name and mixes up aliases so he is commonly known as Josh Garza or Joshua Garza. On several patents held with Mr. Stuart Fraser Vice Chairman of Cantor Fitzgerald, Garza uses H. Joshua Garza as apposed to H. Josh Garza. Varios internet Trolls and FUDsters refer to him as Homero Garza or Homero Josh Garza or just Mr. Scam Muggle. Mr Garza, allegedly, started his entreprenuership with Optima Computers LLC in Brattleborough Vermont (VT) where he then branched out into the, alleged, oversubscription of Broadband service with his company Great Awk Wireless also called GAW High Speed Internet and shortened to GAW HSI. Having claimed to make millions with this service or sale of the company or something, Mr Garza then went on to the cryptocurrency industry where he, allegedly, applied the same oversubscription techniques to ASIC Mining with his platforms ZenMiner and ZenCloud selling virtual products called the Hashlet and Hashtaker. Sometimes referred to as CashLets, CashTakers and Ponsi's. Through the puported success of said platforms under a conglomerate of companies called Geniuses at Work or GAW for short Mr Garza, allegedly, moved on from GAW Miners LLC to a new company which should have provided a clean slate. Business Technology for Cryptocurrency LLC or BTC LLC for short which matches the domain name BTC.com puportedly purchased for 1.1 Million USD, was born. This company launched several platforms such as PayBase at Paybase.com and paycoin known as XPY. The PayBase platform allegedly destroyed the products PayFlash (gyft) PaySave (zincsave) as well as others. The Paycoin "Currency" allegedly destroyed the concepts of HybridFlex, FundSafe, Huh. After much public scrutiny Mr Homero Joshua Garza married to Jessica Garza then set out to not own the platforms Coinstand at coinstand.com (which used an, allegedly, embezzled codebase called zincsave to purchase from Amazon violating the ToS) and mineral at mineral.com (which used an, allegedly, embezzled codebase called coin-swap). These new ventures were puportedly related to Hong-Kong, hong kong, while rumor persists of Dubai being the real location. In short Scam Muggles be commitin' fraud and Scammin' Muggles.

and Cryptsy would be better . I personally think that the entire concept of an exchange being involved this deeply with an obvious scam is an afront to the entire Crypto Community.

The best way to cast a vote against this ridiculous conflict of interest , that may very well also be criminal, would be to remove ALL coins from Cryptsy. Fuck em. There is no shortage of shitcoin exchanges.

Here is where to cast your vote:Click HERE to vote (https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login)

To show support for decency in the Crypto World, pull ALL coins from Cryptsy.

If you like the people in charge of your coins and your personal financial information to be directly involved in the largest Shitcoin Scam ever (Paycoin XPY), then keep your coins there.

Thank you again, and have yourself a scammy day, Carmelo!

hahahahahahaha LOL !!! Now you are playing guessing games? Tell you what, I tell you who I am is you tell everyone who you are.
And no, Not Carmello, I have nothing good or bad to say about the fellow. Just dont call me Homero or Paul and I wont find you and bitch slap you.

Whoever you are , I know that you enjoy licking Homero's stinky balls:

https://i.imgur.com/Tq70aZv.jpg

Shill away shillboy! If you did actually get 2 invites from Coinstand that narrows down who you might be. https://archive.is/ShDo2


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: JudgePolzin on April 27, 2015, 06:04:30 PM

hahahahahahaha LOL !!! Now you are playing guessing games? Tell you what, I tell you who I am is you tell everyone who you are.
And no, Not Carmello, I have nothing good or bad to say about the fellow. Just dont call me Homero or Paul and I wont find you and bitch slap you.
[/quote]

Whoever you are , I know that you enjoy licking Homero's stinky balls:

https://i.imgur.com/Tq70aZv.jpg

Shill away shillboy! If you did actually get 2 invites from Coinstand that narrows down who you might be. https://archive.is/ShDo2
[/quote]

LOL!!!! I got them in a, lets say, unusual way. And Sold them to one user in this community, in a, lets say, unusual way. (lets say, i knew I could not use them)
I am not afraid of you. I know you are afraid of the light.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Paul Revere on April 27, 2015, 06:10:35 PM

hahahahahahaha LOL !!! Now you are playing guessing games? Tell you what, I tell you who I am is you tell everyone who you are.
And no, Not Carmello, I have nothing good or bad to say about the fellow. Just dont call me Homero or Paul and I wont find you and bitch slap you.

Whoever you are , I know that you enjoy licking Homero's stinky balls:

https://i.imgur.com/Tq70aZv.jpg

Shill away shillboy! If you did actually get 2 invites from Coinstand that narrows down who you might be. https://archive.is/ShDo2
[/quote]

LOL!!!! I got them in a, lets say, unusual way. And Sold them to one user in this community, in a, lets say, unusual way. (lets say, i knew I could not use them)
I am not afraid of you. I know you are afraid of the light.
[/quote][/quote]

I could care less what you are afraid of. In this post you noted that volume is up on Cryptsy:

Paul Revere, what a joke!


If you like the people in charge of your coins and your personal financial information to be directly involved in the largest Shitcoin Scam ever (Paycoin XPY), then keep your coins there.

LOL !!!! I think trading volume is going higher. You are bringing more customers to Cryptsy!!!

Thank you for replying. I am confident in my actions, but you are free to believe whatever you like. Enjoy. I guess pointing out collusion between Homero Joshua Garza, the guy described in this quote:

Quote
That guy is a Scam Muggle. A short muggle starting with the online handle josg21 to, allegedly, ■■■■■ about boob jobs (plastic surgeons) and poor service Mr Homero Garza has since changed to the handle GAWCEO. A while later after tainting the handle GAWCEO a change was made to MrCEO and minerorigin which exist in parralel. In order to, allegedly, attempt confusion over his real name Homero Joshua Garza uses his middle name and mixes up aliases so he is commonly known as Josh Garza or Joshua Garza. On several patents held with Mr. Stuart Fraser Vice Chairman of Cantor Fitzgerald, Garza uses H. Joshua Garza as apposed to H. Josh Garza. Varios internet Trolls and FUDsters refer to him as Homero Garza or Homero Josh Garza or just Mr. Scam Muggle. Mr Garza, allegedly, started his entreprenuership with Optima Computers LLC in Brattleborough Vermont (VT) where he then branched out into the, alleged, oversubscription of Broadband service with his company Great Awk Wireless also called GAW High Speed Internet and shortened to GAW HSI. Having claimed to make millions with this service or sale of the company or something, Mr Garza then went on to the cryptocurrency industry where he, allegedly, applied the same oversubscription techniques to ASIC Mining with his platforms ZenMiner and ZenCloud selling virtual products called the Hashlet and Hashtaker. Sometimes referred to as CashLets, CashTakers and Ponsi's. Through the puported success of said platforms under a conglomerate of companies called Geniuses at Work or GAW for short Mr Garza, allegedly, moved on from GAW Miners LLC to a new company which should have provided a clean slate. Business Technology for Cryptocurrency LLC or BTC LLC for short which matches the domain name BTC.com puportedly purchased for 1.1 Million USD, was born. This company launched several platforms such as PayBase at Paybase.com and paycoin known as XPY. The PayBase platform allegedly destroyed the products PayFlash (gyft) PaySave (zincsave) as well as others. The Paycoin "Currency" allegedly destroyed the concepts of HybridFlex, FundSafe, Huh. After much public scrutiny Mr Homero Joshua Garza married to Jessica Garza then set out to not own the platforms Coinstand at coinstand.com (which used an, allegedly, embezzled codebase called zincsave to purchase from Amazon violating the ToS) and mineral at mineral.com (which used an, allegedly, embezzled codebase called coin-swap). These new ventures were puportedly related to Hong-Kong, hong kong, while rumor persists of Dubai being the real location. In short Scam Muggles be commitin' fraud and Scammin' Muggles. In leaked Emails Josh Garza outlined plans to include Cryptsy in his Paycoin Scam by trading shares in GAW and Cryptsy

and Cryptsy is not sufficient for you. I personally think that the entire concept of an exchange being involved this deeply with an obvious scam is an afront to the entire Crypto Community.

The best way to cast a vote against this ridiculous conflict of interest , that may very well also be criminal, would be to remove ALL coins from Cryptsy. Fuck em. There is no shortage of shitcoin exchanges.

Here is where to cast your vote:Click HERE to vote (https://www.cryptsy.com/users/login)

To show support for decency in the Crypto World, pull ALL coins from Cryptsy.

If you like the people in charge of your coins and your personal financial information to be directly involved in the largest Shitcoin Scam ever (Paycoin XPY), then keep your coins there.
[/quote]

Here is the volume:
https://i.imgur.com/eiyGYBE.jpg

Do you figure that is Homero dumping xpy? Or maybe it is Cryptsy? Is there a difference?



Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: vancefox on April 27, 2015, 06:13:05 PM
And no, Not Carmello, I have nothing good or bad to say about the fellow. Just dont call me Homero or Paul and I wont find you and bitch slap you.

Well you write way too correctly to be ol Homero... and I don't know Paul...

But since your posts just rub me the wrong way... You shall now be known to me as Homero Paul.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: vancefox on April 27, 2015, 06:15:55 PM
Isn't this kinda like a store asking Pepsi if they want them to stop selling Coke?

Hashtalk members can vote too.

No censorship?  Wow... Must be why people aren't 100% behind our good buddy here, Homero Paul.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: JudgePolzin on April 27, 2015, 06:35:15 PM
And no, Not Carmello, I have nothing good or bad to say about the fellow. Just dont call me Homero or Paul and I wont find you and bitch slap you.

Well you write way too correctly to be ol Homero... and I don't know Paul...

But since your posts just rub me the wrong way... You shall now be known to me as Homero Paul.

No one deserve this NO ONE! :)


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Unacceptable on April 28, 2015, 12:40:33 AM
An exchange should have NOTHING to do with ANY coin....EVER!!!! Except listing said coin if there is support for it.Or delisting it if there is proof of "foulplay" in some manner.

It should neither promote or endorse a coin in any way.................

Ditch the PC Cryptsy,it's the only way to stay impartial  ;)

I'm not happy with XPY being listed,but there is still "support" for it from those stuck with it...I guess.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Paul Revere on April 28, 2015, 01:23:42 AM
Current bullshit sham poll count being run by Cryptsy to justify supporting the Paycoin scam:

https://i.imgur.com/V0jfi97.jpg

If gifted this Prime Controller I PROMISE to dump ALL of the Paycoins it shits out to pay for beer!


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Paul Revere on April 28, 2015, 01:46:10 AM
Hate to double post, but I need to ask a question. Why is Cryptsy offering to burn the customer's coins that this Prime Controller address is loaded with ? What the fuck is THAT all about? Is this whole company run by a bunch of cokehead scamtards, or what?

This is the coins put into the Prime Controller given sold to Cryptsy by the scamdog Homero Garza, or one of his minions:

https://i.imgur.com/j375vl0.jpg

According to the asshole Mullick, a Cryptsy employee, these are CUSTOMER'S Paycoins. Can one of you fuckhead morons please explain why you are offering to BURN your customer's coins??


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: hermanto on April 28, 2015, 02:14:50 AM
my xrp 43 day waiting no to my wallet  deposit #180174


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: Paul Revere on April 28, 2015, 02:17:15 AM
my xrp 43 day waiting no to my wallet  deposit #180174

Maybe Cryptsy decided to burn your XRP. They are , after all, openly offering to burn customer's XPY.


Title: Re: Cryptsy Prime Controller Destroy or Distribute
Post by: BitJohn on April 28, 2015, 02:23:21 AM
Did I mention I love this community? On that note in typical crypto land fashion we have destroyed the http://www.poll-maker.com/Security-Privacy fantastic security of this website... Which appears to truly have no great way to stop you guys ;) So the poll will be redone in an environment we can control or we will make a unilateral decision. So much for letting the people decide. I will readdress the issue in a new thread when that decision is made.