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Title: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: graysrolex on April 29, 2015, 03:33:21 PM
Hi Everyone,
We want to offer you another watch for sale. It is a Pre-Owned Rolex Explorer 2 16570
http://www.grayandsons.com/product/28053/8 (http://www.grayandsons.com/product/28053/8)
Retail Price: $8,100, Gray & Sons Price: $5,880 its around (26.17 BTC!!)
This is Rich & Margaret from Gray & Sons, we are real people, we have real store, we do real business. http://www.grayandsons.com/aboutus
We have specialized in buying, selling and repairing fine Swiss watches for over 35 years. Our Miami Beach showroom is located across from the world renowned Bal Harbour Shops - we ship around the United States and around the world - with thousands of satisfied customers (you can ask for references). If you are ever in the South Florida area please stop by, we would love to meet you. All of our watches come with a 10 day return privilege and a 1 to 2 year warranty. Authenticity is guaranteed. We have just started accepting Bitcoin payments through coinbase for our watches, jewelry & diamonds.
 
If you are interested in buying a Rolex watch please contact us:
rich@grayandsons.com or margaret@grayandsons.com or Telephone: Toll Free (in the US): (800) 918-2608, Local: +1(305) 865-0999, Fax: (305) 865-9666

http://grayandsons.commercev3.com/images/bitcoin/rolex03.jpg
http://grayandsons.commercev3.com/images/bitcoin/rolex02.jpg
http://grayandsons.commercev3.com/images/bitcoin/rolex01.jpg

Look at our previous offer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1040055.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1040055.0)


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: cyclops on April 29, 2015, 07:28:23 PM
What is that green sticker in the back of the watch?


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: co5hike on April 29, 2015, 07:31:47 PM
yes your price is a bit high, espically for an entry model rolex like the explorer


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: GrandmaJean on April 29, 2015, 07:32:25 PM
wow the watch looks really great though i doubt someone will pay nearly 30 btc for it


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: E.exchanger on April 29, 2015, 07:40:52 PM
Always use Escrow for both buyer and seller's protection......

REFF:     https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1036436.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1036436.0)


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: BiTJack on April 29, 2015, 07:42:35 PM
The watch looks real sweet man but 26btc is a lota money i doubt people here will spend that much, good luck with your sales tho.


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: co5hike on April 29, 2015, 07:44:23 PM
The watch looks real sweet man but 26btc is a lota money i doubt people here will spend that much, good luck with your sales tho.

its not that 26 btc is a lot of money.. 58 hundred is a lot for that watch. in my opinion.


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: E.exchanger on April 29, 2015, 07:47:52 PM
The watch looks real sweet man but 26btc is a lota money i doubt people here will spend that much, good luck with your sales tho.

its not that 26 btc is a lot of money.. 58 hundred is a lot for that watch. in my opinion.

For a Rolex i don't think its lot ;)


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: locopao on April 29, 2015, 08:14:56 PM
Yep, i suppose for someone who buys rolex watches this price is probably a good offer? ???

But personally i would never spend such kind of money for something like this (watch, jewelry or any kind of luxury accessories) even if i had the spare money. But that's just me of course...



Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: bithalo on April 29, 2015, 08:59:54 PM
What is that green sticker in the back of the watch?

Most if not all Rolex have a green sticker on the back which has the Model number.  Some people may remove theirs once they start wearing it.


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: Netpyder on April 29, 2015, 09:17:25 PM
ok please be aware. i am 99% sure this watch is a fake.

why?

well from the first picture itself. see the SECOND pointer is not directly on the pointer but most likely 1/4 after it. well rolex is a precision watch. i have 3 real and 2 high copy fakes (china) [[can show pictures if you want]]

i have checked all the watches just few minutes back. the fakes does not stick directly on , but most likely 1/4 off and the other one 1/2 off.

i am not discouraging anyone to buy, just make sure you get the original rolex payment slip (not another one for this model) they need to be 1:1 to the manually written model code inside the watch.

Escrow for this deal is very much compulsory.


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: bithalo on April 29, 2015, 09:27:22 PM
ok please be aware. i am 99% sure this watch is a fake.

why?

well from the first picture itself. see the SECOND pointer is not directly on the pointer but most likely 1/4 after it. well rolex is a precision watch. i have 3 real and 2 high copy fakes (china) [[can show pictures if you want]]

i have checked all the watches just few minutes back. the fakes does not stick directly on , but most likely 1/4 off and the other one 1/2 off.

i am not discouraging anyone to buy, just make sure you get the original rolex payment slip (not another one for this model) they need to be 1:1 to the manually written model code inside the watch.

Escrow for this deal is very much compulsory.

I respect your caution, but I have no doubt that Gray and Sons sells only authentic watches.  

I'd be very interested to see the issue you mention in any pictures you have.  I used to collect watches, so its more of a personal curiosity to see what you're looking at. 

Maybe the OP can comment on this?


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: Netpyder on April 29, 2015, 09:29:41 PM
ok please be aware. i am 99% sure this watch is a fake.

why?

well from the first picture itself. see the SECOND pointer is not directly on the pointer but most likely 1/4 after it. well rolex is a precision watch. i have 3 real and 2 high copy fakes (china) [[can show pictures if you want]]

i have checked all the watches just few minutes back. the fakes does not stick directly on , but most likely 1/4 off and the other one 1/2 off.

i am not discouraging anyone to buy, just make sure you get the original rolex payment slip (not another one for this model) they need to be 1:1 to the manually written model code inside the watch.

Escrow for this deal is very much compulsory.

I respect your caution, but I have no doubt that Gray and Sons sells only authentic watches.   Maybe the OP can comment on this.

no no the company does not sell fakes i think.. but nowhere in their website redirects to this thread


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: Bobsurplus on April 29, 2015, 09:41:26 PM
ok please be aware. i am 99% sure this watch is a fake.

why?

well from the first picture itself. see the SECOND pointer is not directly on the pointer but most likely 1/4 after it. well rolex is a precision watch. i have 3 real and 2 high copy fakes (china) [[can show pictures if you want]]

i have checked all the watches just few minutes back. the fakes does not stick directly on , but most likely 1/4 off and the other one 1/2 off.

i am not discouraging anyone to buy, just make sure you get the original rolex payment slip (not another one for this model) they need to be 1:1 to the manually written model code inside the watch.

Escrow for this deal is very much compulsory.

I respect your caution, but I have no doubt that Gray and Sons sells only authentic watches.   Maybe the OP can comment on this.

no no the company does not sell fakes i think.. but nowhere in their website redirects to this thread

I called them yesterday to speak to Rich, he was out so I asked to speak to Margret. Who ever answered the phone asked me why I was calling and I told her "I wanted to speak about buying a watch for bitcoins" she told me to call back today to speak with Rich. I can assure you that this account posting is really gray & sons.

Rich.. I got real busy today. I'll get a call out to you tomorrow afternoon.

Cheers!


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: Bobsurplus on April 29, 2015, 09:46:15 PM
And I too think this watch is a tad over priced, Im thinking that $42-4700 is the right value for this watch.

But then again without the serial number there is no way to accurately date this watch although it looks to be around 1996-1999 range.. Closer to 97-98 ;)


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: graysrolex on April 29, 2015, 09:55:59 PM
What is that green sticker in the back of the watch?

The green sticker is the hologram sticker that Rolex used to put on the back of their watches when they sold them new.


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: Bobsurplus on April 29, 2015, 10:20:38 PM
I don't need another watch, but I guess the price is good. Overstock is selling the same model for $6,185.99 - both are pre-owned so you'd have to compare the age, condition and shipping cost.

Sorry man.. You have no clue what you're talking about. Age matters with a rolex, just like with a car.... And you can find the same explorer 2 on ebay for 4500!

Overstock is the biggest ripoff for rolex's I have ever seen...

Just compare their prices to the prices on ebay!


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: smoothie on April 29, 2015, 10:33:47 PM
nice watch.

Probably never will spend that much on a watch.

But then again some people pay millions for custom made 24k gold watches.

Who knows!


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: bithalo on April 29, 2015, 10:41:48 PM
nice watch.

Probably never will spend that much on a watch.

But then again some people pay millions for custom made 24k gold watches.

Who knows!

Or thousands for a Wooden B...

<ducks>

Sorry blazed...just had to... ;D


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: Blazed on April 29, 2015, 10:52:31 PM
nice watch.

Probably never will spend that much on a watch.

But then again some people pay millions for custom made 24k gold watches.

Who knows!

Or thousands for a Wooden B...

<ducks>

Sorry blazed...just had to... ;D

Stealing my jokes?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1040055.msg11225431#msg11225431
 :P


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: graysrolex on April 29, 2015, 10:52:54 PM
ok please be aware. i am 99% sure this watch is a fake.

why?

well from the first picture itself. see the SECOND pointer is not directly on the pointer but most likely 1/4 after it. well rolex is a precision watch. i have 3 real and 2 high copy fakes (china) [[can show pictures if you want]]

i have checked all the watches just few minutes back. the fakes does not stick directly on , but most likely 1/4 off and the other one 1/2 off.

i am not discouraging anyone to buy, just make sure you get the original rolex payment slip (not another one for this model) they need to be 1:1 to the manually written model code inside the watch.

Escrow for this deal is very much compulsory.

I respect your caution, but I have no doubt that Gray and Sons sells only authentic watches.  

I'd be very interested to see the issue you mention in any pictures you have.  I used to collect watches, so its more of a personal curiosity to see what you're looking at.  

Maybe the OP can comment on this?

If I understand you correctly you are concerned because the Seconds hand is not lined up directly with the hashmark on the dial. You have to remember that Rolex watches do not "Tick" from one second to the next. They sweep smoothly around the dial. So when you pull out the crown to stop the watch the Seconds hand will stop where ever it is currently at in its motion.

Just to answer a few other questions: The watch is from 2005 and in excellent condition inside and out. Just serviced by our Swiss-trained watchmakers.

It does not have the original box or warranty papers because the original owner did not hold on to them (for many collectors this is a cardinal sin - but for many people holding on to the original box and papers is not so important especially if they don't plan on re-selling it in the future). To put our clients at ease we guarantee the authenticity and provide a written appraisal with the model #, serial # and retail value. The watch has a two year warranty.

We feel that the price is a fair price for this particular model of Rolex - we are open to reasonable offers though. . .


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: cyclops on May 02, 2015, 10:41:06 AM
What is that green sticker in the back of the watch?

Most if not all Rolex have a green sticker on the back which has the Model number.  Some people may remove theirs once they start wearing it.

I've handled a bunch of them (even new) and no one had that Sticker... Although I doubt anyone would like to keep it there on the back.


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: cyclops on May 02, 2015, 10:43:01 AM
nice watch.

Probably never will spend that much on a watch.

But then again some people pay millions for custom made 24k gold watches.

Who knows!

https://megaricoss.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/3-este-reloj-cronc3b3grafo-patek-philippe-de-oro-18-quilates.jpg?w=251

5.7 million dollars. Not even custom made, vintage Patek Philippe


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: bithalo on May 02, 2015, 01:14:22 PM
What is that green sticker in the back of the watch?

Most if not all Rolex have a green sticker on the back which has the Model number.  Some people may remove theirs once they start wearing it.

I've handled a bunch of them (even new) and no one had that Sticker... Although I doubt anyone would like to keep it there on the back.

I've kept the green sticker on my watch (Men's Yachtmaster 18K/SS, MoP dial) just to keep it as authentic as possible.  After years of off-and-on use, the sticker is still there and looks decent.


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: cyclops on May 02, 2015, 02:40:35 PM
What is that green sticker in the back of the watch?

Most if not all Rolex have a green sticker on the back which has the Model number.  Some people may remove theirs once they start wearing it.

I've handled a bunch of them (even new) and no one had that Sticker... Although I doubt anyone would like to keep it there on the back.

I've kept the green sticker on my watch (Men's Yachtmaster 18K/SS, MoP dial) just to keep it as authentic as possible.  After years of off-and-on use, the sticker is still there and looks decent.

I would never judge the authenticity of a watch by a sticker on it... There are a million things I would check fist, and if in doubt just open it and see the movement.


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: bithalo on May 02, 2015, 03:04:53 PM
I would never judge the authenticity of a watch by a sticker on it... There are a million things I would check fist, and if in doubt just open it and see the movement.

Agreed.  A sticker alone doesn't guarantee authenticity.  Its just one of many things one can verify.  For me, it came on my watch as new, so I'm leaving it on.


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: michietn94 on May 02, 2015, 04:13:07 PM
Hi Everyone,
We want to offer you another watch for sale. It is a Pre-Owned Rolex Explorer 2 16570
http://www.grayandsons.com/product/28053/8 (http://www.grayandsons.com/product/28053/8)
Retail Price: $8,100, Gray & Sons Price: $5,880 its around (26.17 BTC!!)
..

Is there any certificate for this watch. The price is quite reasonable but is there any discount  :D ?


nice watch.

Probably never will spend that much on a watch.

But then again some people pay millions for custom made 24k gold watches.

Who knows!

5.7 million dollars. Not even custom made, vintage Patek Philippe

Is that made by gold or real some animal fur ?


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: crazyearner on May 03, 2015, 05:36:06 PM
id like some inside pictures with the cap off and see if has markings on for genuine Rolex and other documents. little out my price range for a watch but others maybe interested however me no thx. Ill take a fake Rolex for $10


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: Bobsurplus on May 03, 2015, 08:26:18 PM
Guys.. This dude is legit.. I already bought 1 Rolex from them, just check my twitter feed.


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: Bobsurplus on May 03, 2015, 08:28:22 PM
What is that green sticker in the back of the watch?

Most if not all Rolex have a green sticker on the back which has the Model number.  Some people may remove theirs once they start wearing it.

I've handled a bunch of them (even new) and no one had that Sticker... Although I doubt anyone would like to keep it there on the back.

You dont know shit dude!


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: cyclops on May 03, 2015, 08:43:08 PM
What is that green sticker in the back of the watch?

Most if not all Rolex have a green sticker on the back which has the Model number.  Some people may remove theirs once they start wearing it.

I've handled a bunch of them (even new) and no one had that Sticker... Although I doubt anyone would like to keep it there on the back.

You dont know shit dude!

Yeah sure, unless the sticker thing is a new trend I've never seen it before in Europe.


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: cyclops on May 03, 2015, 08:43:45 PM
Hi Everyone,
We want to offer you another watch for sale. It is a Pre-Owned Rolex Explorer 2 16570
http://www.grayandsons.com/product/28053/8 (http://www.grayandsons.com/product/28053/8)
Retail Price: $8,100, Gray & Sons Price: $5,880 its around (26.17 BTC!!)
..

Is there any certificate for this watch. The price is quite reasonable but is there any discount  :D ?


nice watch.

Probably never will spend that much on a watch.

But then again some people pay millions for custom made 24k gold watches.

Who knows!

5.7 million dollars. Not even custom made, vintage Patek Philippe

Is that made by gold or real some animal fur ?

Gold/Fur is unimportant (Yes it is made of that) the value is in the complexity and beauty of the watch movement.


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: Minor Miner on May 03, 2015, 08:50:42 PM
What is that green sticker in the back of the watch?

Most if not all Rolex have a green sticker on the back which has the Model number.  Some people may remove theirs once they start wearing it.

I've handled a bunch of them (even new) and no one had that Sticker... Although I doubt anyone would like to keep it there on the back.

You dont know shit dude!

I do not think you have any reason to speak to him like that.   I just looked at the rolex my in-laws gave me (never wear it), and it does not have this sticker either.   Since it was bought at a rolex store, i doubt it is fake.   No sticker.   Instructions for me to come into the store to get an extra link (if needed) but no green sticker.
Perhaps you are wrong.


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: Bobsurplus on May 03, 2015, 08:57:42 PM
What is that green sticker in the back of the watch?

Most if not all Rolex have a green sticker on the back which has the Model number.  Some people may remove theirs once they start wearing it.

I've handled a bunch of them (even new) and no one had that Sticker... Although I doubt anyone would like to keep it there on the back.

You dont know shit dude!

I do not think you have any reason to speak to him like that.   I just looked at the rolex my in-laws gave me (never wear it), and it does not have this sticker either.   Since it was bought at a rolex store, i doubt it is fake.   No sticker.   Instructions for me to come into the store to get an extra link (if needed) but no green sticker.
Perhaps you are wrong.

Listen, I have never seen a new Rolex without either the green sticker or the clear sticker with the red line.. Either way, that guy claims to know about Rolex yet is completely unaware of the second most recognized part of a Rolex.. First being the Rolex logo, the second is the green sticker!


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: Bobsurplus on May 03, 2015, 08:59:57 PM
What is that green sticker in the back of the watch?

Most if not all Rolex have a green sticker on the back which has the Model number.  Some people may remove theirs once they start wearing it.

I've handled a bunch of them (even new) and no one had that Sticker... Although I doubt anyone would like to keep it there on the back.

You dont know shit dude!

Yeah sure, unless the sticker thing is a new trend I've never seen it before in Europe.

Oh man... this is not a new trend.. Just go to any Rolex AD and ask to look at a few models and then ask how long Rolex has been using green stickers.. Anyway.. Im just saying that these guys are not a fly by night operation and buying a watch from them is safe.



Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: cyclops on May 03, 2015, 10:22:46 PM
What is that green sticker in the back of the watch?

Most if not all Rolex have a green sticker on the back which has the Model number.  Some people may remove theirs once they start wearing it.

I've handled a bunch of them (even new) and no one had that Sticker... Although I doubt anyone would like to keep it there on the back.

You dont know shit dude!

Yeah sure, unless the sticker thing is a new trend I've never seen it before in Europe.

Oh man... this is not a new trend.. Just go to any Rolex AD and ask to look at a few models and then ask how long Rolex has been using green stickers.. Anyway.. Im just saying that these guys are not a fly by night operation and buying a watch from them is safe.



Nerver seen one with the sticker nor in the dealer, neither in hands of anyone. That is really strange or maybe they just peel it of once they are in the shop...


Title: Re: Do you think is too much? Pre-Owned ROLEX for sale
Post by: Bobsurplus on May 03, 2015, 10:24:34 PM
What is that green sticker in the back of the watch?

Most if not all Rolex have a green sticker on the back which has the Model number.  Some people may remove theirs once they start wearing it.

I've handled a bunch of them (even new) and no one had that Sticker... Although I doubt anyone would like to keep it there on the back.

You dont know shit dude!

Yeah sure, unless the sticker thing is a new trend I've never seen it before in Europe.

Oh man... this is not a new trend.. Just go to any Rolex AD and ask to look at a few models and then ask how long Rolex has been using green stickers.. Anyway.. Im just saying that these guys are not a fly by night operation and buying a watch from them is safe.



Nerver seen one with the sticker nor in the dealer, neither in hands of anyone. That is really strange or maybe they just peel it of once they are in the shop...

Nahh man...Not normally.. if its used then maybe its off but thinking hard I dont think I ever seen a new Rolex minus the green sticker.